Hello fellow plus junkies, I am trying to find a way to access the personal message for a plugin I am making for Plus, It is absolutly essential for this plugin to access the personal message atleast once every 5 minutes, without it, the plugin will not fullfill the goal it was originally intended for. I can't tell you my idea either because believe me, It WILL be copied But it will be good and you will like it if I can get it done.

I was hoping there was some WinAPI stuff that could do it but it appears the window which contains the PM is actually nameless or hidden or something, perhaps there is an API which can take X-Y co-ords that im not aware of?

The other option is to use active accessiblity but I have NO IDEA where to start with that.

Please help!

Take a look at this page, it might be interesting for you

That page has information about changing the PM, I am looking to retrieve the PM.

We can't help you anymore than what is already been said in your thread on the MSNFanatic forums....

I'm not going to repeat everything what TheSteve have said there, but it is all correct and nothing more can be added to that.

http://forums.fanatic.net.nz/index.php?showtopic=15194

Thats not entirely true, patchou manages to retrieve the PM changes and log them in his event log and I know he dosn't hook the sockets, so there is SOME way of doing it..

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Originally posted by twentytwo
Thats not entirely true, patchou manages to retrieve the PM changes and log them in his event log and I know he dosn't hook the sockets, so there is SOME way of doing it..

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Dosn't seem like something a professional programmer like patchou would do, hopefully he has a response for this thread

My guess is that hes an expert with the Windows API or he used a little ASM hack to grab the PM like he does for the nickname changing (i believe)..

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Thats not entirely true

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The way Patchou does it is way complicated (righedit hooking) and frankly (after reading both threads here and on msnfanatic) I doubt you have the knowledge to pull this off or to understand how.

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The way patchou does what?

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... make Plus?
Im not asking how he made plus, im asking how he identifies the Personal Message "window" or "container" or whatever the heck you want to call it

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Originally posted by twentytwo
because if the thing exists and has a handle, there IS a way to pull the string from it.

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And just to note, your bluntness simply comes off as arrogance, please don't talk to me like I'm a child.

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I know enough about hooking (and just for the record, probably 10x what you know) to know that you cant mindlessly intercept all WM's from msn messenger and automatically know which is a personal message, which is a menu click, which is a receieved message.. etc.. You have to know the Handle of the object in question so that you can identify where the changes are occuring in your application,

For example, if you know the handle for the RichTextBox inside a conversation window you can distinguish all messages coming from that text box from all the other messages which have different handles.

Fanatic have done a good job answering my questions, but TheSteve also believes that patchou uses a socket hook, however, I do not believe that someone of patchous calibre would do such a thing, I believe he is using API's or some kind of memory hack, which is something you probably have very little knowledge of.

Please do not respond again Cookie, it will only force me to re-explain myself once more, resulting in the exact thing you are trying to prevent - spam.

So again, I ask, How did patchou locate this handle? And what is it?

There is no handle: it's not a frigging window! I know: I've delved deeper into Messenger than most, trying to work out how it's constructed so I can exploit that to my own benign ends. SO, when I say there's no frigging handle to the PSM, there's no frigging handle!
Anyway, only developers will skills like Patchou are able to hook Winsock: I know, I've tried it myself and failed. And I'm no novice. And, you can intercept WMs and then work out which one is the PSM: it's not hard using Spy++. If there's a WM associated with a PSM change, it'll be caught by Spy++. Then it's a case of a simple subclass and filter function.

I suggest you go away and do some research into the Messenger window structure, then come back and read this thread and the one at Fanatic.