New Build of Vista released, Screenshots found here, Click on Screenies to View them

thoughts on this build?  . looks ok to me

yeah it looks really good !

Can't wait to get a copy once its released.. or maybe a few months after to wait after some bugs are fixed

im starting to lose interest in Vista..with MS talking of Maybe Windows Fiji, dunno whether i'll waste my money on vista

I have a feeling the release dates between versions of Windows are going to get smaller and smaller as time goes on

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I have a feeling the release dates between versions of Windows are going to get smaller and smaller as time goes on

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I think Windows Vista is going to be an excellent operating system, i was thinking of downloading a copy of it just to try it out .

i saught of like the new GUI of it transparency in it, but that you've had in linux for awhile now . so MS are just playing catchup with that,

yeah no doubt vista looks good..

hopefully we'll see some innovation in the next version of windows .

hopefully though i do think MS are on the right track to developing something really good,

they just need to keep their mouths shut to prevent overhyping people. They created so much hype and now they've cut all the "most hyped up" features.

Read this, interesting what this guy had to say about Vista

Looks nice. I would install vista once i get my pc but i cba to download 2 odd gb just to test it. Plus i wont install vista immediately when it comes out officially ..... let (some of) the bugs go out .... let me enjoy the fast new pc for sometime .... mabbe ill be bored on rainy day and install the wreched memory whore

ok from what i heard bout in this thread is vista looks nice.

Screw vista i use XP vista isn't that different New GUI basically to join Apple osx are what not

i dont see the big improvement (of course apart from the looks)

XP looked nice when it came out everyone switched to classic mode again lol well 75% bet it happens again. mircosoft displays eat memory. always have always will i dont want to waste memory on somehting else other than applications that need it


ALL BASED ON LOOKS I THINK ANYWAY lol

I hope they fix the icons so they won't be sooooo big

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Originally posted by YourNeibour
I hope they fix the icons so they won't be sooooo big

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Originally posted by joemailey
ok from what i heard bout in this thread is vista looks nice.

Screw vista i use XP vista isn't that different New GUI basically to join Apple osx are what not

i dont see the big improvement (of course apart from the looks)

XP looked nice when it came out everyone switched to classic mode again lol well 75% bet it happens again. mircosoft displays eat memory. always have always will i dont want to waste memory on somehting else other than applications that need it


ALL BASED ON LOOKS I THINK ANYWAY lol

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There are a loads of pictures, the only ones i have been bothered to research are basically making eveything simnpler and easier to do, like searching for and organising documents etc.
Also the speed at which the computer can turn off and on.

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Originally posted by joemailey
Screw vista i use XP vista isn't that different New GUI basically to join Apple osx are what not

i dont see the big improvement (of course apart from the looks)

XP looked nice when it came out everyone switched to classic mode again lol well 75% bet it happens again. mircosoft displays eat memory. always have always will i dont want to waste memory on somehting else other than applications that need it


ALL BASED ON LOOKS I THINK ANYWAY lol

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I think it looks good but the difference between the first build and this there has been change...so I hope the final looks awsome

yay! new version (i hope i'll install it either today or tomorrow)

Ehm, i have this last build now but, is it safe to install? Like i know small flaws may be there but, is it safe? No security lacks? safe to surf without hackers free to entrance and soever? than i might install it. But is it possible to go back to XP afterwards without formatting the pc? And i mean original state of xp... same settings/background etc

I used there first build and the driver support was much better then xp

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Originally posted by Exca
Ehm, i have this last build now but, is it safe to install? Like i know small flaws may be there but, is it safe? No security lacks? safe to surf without hackers free to entrance and soever? than i might install it. But is it possible to go back to XP afterwards without formatting the pc? And i mean original state of xp... same settings/background etc

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Originally posted by Supersonicdarky
you could install it on a new partition and just boot vista instead of xp, thats wat i'm going to do

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Originally posted by YourNeibour
I used there first build and the driver support was much better then xp

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Originally posted by joemailey
i dont see the big improvement (of course apart from the looks)

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People that wanna test Vista an report bugs should use it but dont use it for there primary Use. a Beta or alpha isnt 'Safe" to use at all, unless you know there will be problems. Vista may not support your Graphics card all that well,

Another thing, how come everybody can download it from connect.microsoft.com and i not? it's not in the list...

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Originally posted by Exca
Another thing, how come everybody can download it from connect.microsoft.com and i not? it's not in the list...

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Well let it be i got it anyways...

My feedback about vista:
ist very slow. XP works so much faster. Maybe i have to add more memory, but even with classic design, slow. Compare it like adsl vs cable. Also there are still bugs. Driversupport is okay. He only doesn't find my audiocard's driver. Nice visual effects. But it still needs work. Navigation shows most flaws. The navigation doesn't work fine. Also folders with video's and pictures take long time before the thumbnails are loaded and created, while in xp it takes a couple of seconds...

But i bet it will be fine in the final release.

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Originally posted by Exca
Well let it be i got it anyways...

My feedback about vista:
ist very slow. XP works so much faster. Maybe i have to add more memory, but even with classic design, slow. Compare it like adsl vs cable. Also there are still bugs. Driversupport is okay. He only doesn't find my audiocard's driver. Nice visual effects. But it still needs work. Navigation shows most flaws. The navigation doesn't work fine. Also folders with video's and pictures take long time before the thumbnails are loaded and created, while in xp it takes a couple of seconds...

But i bet it will be fine in the final release.

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Originally posted by Exca
Well let it be i got it anyways...

My feedback about vista:
ist very slow. XP works so much faster. Maybe i have to add more memory, but even with classic design, slow. Compare it like adsl vs cable. Also there are still bugs. Driversupport is okay. He only doesn't find my audiocard's driver. Nice visual effects. But it still needs work. Navigation shows most flaws. The navigation doesn't work fine. Also folders with video's and pictures take long time before the thumbnails are loaded and created, while in xp it takes a couple of seconds...

But i bet it will be fine in the final release.

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Yeah well, with the new features Vista has you'd expect it to run slower then XP and i don't really think thats a bad thing tbh. If you want to keep up to date with the latest software and features you are going to have to update your computer to take full advantage of this.

Vista is over-rated.. Remember thier origional specs, they were saying we needed hardware that isnt even on the market yet.. I For one cant afford a whole new PC just to run Vista and have it look a bit better than XP..

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Originally posted by Chestah
Yeah well, with the new features Vista has you'd expect it to run slower then XP and i don't really think thats a bad thing tbh. If you want to keep up to date with the latest software and features you are going to have to update your computer to take full advantage of this.

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Originally posted by Chestah
Yeah well, with the new features Vista has you'd expect it to run slower then XP and i don't really think thats a bad thing tbh. If you want to keep up to date with the latest software and features you are going to have to update your computer to take full advantage of this.

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not everyone can afford to buy a new PC an or hardware for that matter so they turn to other stuff such as Apple mac an or linux

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Originally posted by XxRebelSeanxX

We arn't going to be forced to update to Vista, so if you upgrade then you should know that the special effects, features, and all that good stuff, are going to require you to get your computer updated so it can run the OS smoothly.

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Originally posted by Animal
true sean but who can afford to buy a 512MB video card just to get all those effects?.. sure can but im not going to when i can get those effects within linux. but some of the features should run ok under a 256MB Vid card, i dont see many people in the fedora forum using a top of the range Cpu ..or Vid card

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Originally posted by Scone
I For one cant afford a whole new PC just to run Vista and have it look a bit better than XP..

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Argh, does no one pay attention? Vista is not just XP with a facelift =/

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it also comes with built in media center (vista ultimate), so thats another feature that vista has and not xp (except xp media center edition)

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Originally posted by Supersonicdarky
it also comes with built in media center (vista ultimate), so thats another feature that vista has and not xp (except xp media center edition)

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Originally posted by Supersonicdarky
it also comes with built in media center (vista ultimate), so thats another feature that vista has and not xp (except xp media center edition)

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Which will probably get removed because M$ are bundle'n there O/S with stuff and not given anyone esle a chance lol.

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so? what's wrong with that?

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Originally posted by Chestah
The people that can't afford to upgrade their hardware probably won't mind not seeing those special effects and they hardly can complain about not seeing them if they don't upgrade their hardware anyways . You can't expect microsoft to create new features that work on hardware years old perfectly

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Originally posted by Animal
Read this, interesting what this guy had to say about Vista

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Originally posted by that guy

The bad news, then, is that UAP is a sad, sad joke. It's the most annoying feature ... (including) that ridiculous Clippy character from older Office versions.
One of the first things I do whenever I install a new Windows version is download and install Mozilla Firefox. If we forget, for a moment, the number of warning dialogs we get during the download and install process (including a brazen security warning from Windows Firewall for which Microsoft should be chastised), let's just examine one crucial, often overlooked issue. Once Firefox is installed, there are two icons on my Desktop I'd like to remove: The Setup application itself and a shortcut to Firefox. So I select both icons and drag them to the Recycle Bin. Simple, right?

Wrong. Here's what you have to go through to actually delete those files in Windows Vista. First, you get a File Access Denied dialog (Figure) explaining that you don't, in fact, have permission to delete a ... shortcut?? To an application you just installed??? Seriously?

OK, fine. You can click a Continue button to "complete this operation." But that doesn't complete anything. It just clears the desktop for the next dialog, which is a Windows Security window (Figure). Here, you need to give your permission to continue something opaquely called a "File Operation." Click Allow, and you're done. Hey, that's not too bad, right? Just two dialogs to read, understand, and then respond correctly to. What's the big deal?

What if you're doing something a bit more complicated? Well, lucky you, the dialogs stack right up, one after the other, in a seemingly never-ending display of stupidity. Indeed, sometimes you'll find yourself unable to do certain things for no good reason, and you click Allow buttons until you're blue in the face. It will never stop bothering you, unless you agree to stop your silliness and leave that file on the desktop where it belongs. Mark my words, this will happen to you. And you will hate it.

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Transparency doesn't work here neither. My laptop is 9 months old it should work fine on a recent system imo! I'll have to add more memory i guess, only got 512. Everything goes fast except navigating trough folders. And i might guess the problem: IndexSearcher.exe fails constantly. I guess this is the program which keeps the fileindex of your hdd and controls the search to folders etc. Because of the fail I guess it has to search manually which takes longer. I'll ask microsoft about this.

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Originally posted by XxRebelSeanxX

We arn't going to be forced to update to Vista, so if you upgrade then you should know that the special effects, features, and all that good stuff, are going to require you to get your computer updated so it can run the OS smoothly.

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true sean but who can afford to buy a 512MB video card just to get all those effects?.. sure can but im not going to when i can get those effects within linux. but some of the features should run ok under a 256MB Vid card, i dont see many people in the fedora forum using a top of the range Cpu ..or Vid card

another interesting read  about Windows Vista Firewall is Here ( click on link toread )

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Originally posted by XxRebelSeanxX

Well, to be fair here Vista isn't going to be cheap as it is. IIRC the last time I looked, the basic version of Vista is going to be around something like $250USD. That's a hella lot more than XP Home is at the moment. If you can afford to buy a operating system at that price, why not a graphics card too?

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Originally posted by XxRebelSeanxX

Well, to be fair here Vista isn't going to be cheap as it is. IIRC the last time I looked, the basic version of Vista is going to be around something like $250USD. That's a hella lot more than XP Home is at the moment. If you can afford to buy a operating system at that price, why not a graphics card too?

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remembering thats $US dollars so its bound to be more in australia ..prolly around the $450 mark maybe.  i recently upgraded Videocard not long ago to a x800 card from a x700 card due to another reason not concering windows vista. IMO i think its to much to ask for an average user or a gamer to go out an spend money on vista an pay for a decent video card to an to findout after they install it there gonna have to upgrade something else to, as prices of XP professional get lower an lower people will just opt for that, than vista,

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Originally posted by XxRebelSeanxX
Then again, I don't think the basic version(s) of Vista are going to have the Aero affects. So if you buy more advance versions that have loads of visual affects, then I'm sure it'll be 'known' that you'll need to have more advanced computer hardware to take advantage of the affects.

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Originally posted by Animal

hope thats right coz i'll be buying that version, . as far as i know of MS really havent let out to much details on  pricing of vista or what the real big differences will be in each version , untill it gets to say Q3 or Q4 of this year we may start to see something announced . i know this sounds silly, but pirating vista sounds good to me rightnow, i dont need transparency in windows when i got it in linux

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looks good ..but i think i'll wait an see how much the Pro will be an or will consume on hardware in a PC shop b4 i go off an buy it,  thats considering i do buy vista at all

Reason that my transparency doensn't work is simply, i'm f*cked

In order to make transparency work you need LDDM/VDDM/WDDM drivers (they are all the same but they change the name constantly). Ati released those drivers, Nvidea released those drivers. Intel didn't. I have GMA 915 (for crying out loud) i didn't knew about that graphicscard before, but GMA is two times nothing. I payed the same price for my laptop then for one of another brand which had about the same specs and had an ATI card (which is ofcourse much better) and I get GMA :/ damn i've should of known better. But anyways, it can handle vista and transparency if only Intel would release those drivers, but they don't. First they give us graphics who are on the edge being a disaster, and then we don't even get a simple driver... My next laptop is an AMD with ATI graphics for sure...

Another build released

Hmmz, i wonder what has changed in this new build. I hope that the aero effect is more compatible now...

Windows Vista: A pre-beta 2 status report this may interest some

also Microsoft Vista Advisor to see if your machine is ready for vista

May aalso wanna read this

Symantec Sues Microsoft

I have 5383.1 now, but it exists in 2 *.daa files...

Can I burn it with nero and do i need 2 dvd's to burn it on now??

At WinHEC, Microsoft CEO said Vista Vista Maybe Delayed by a Few Weeks depending on the feedback received on Vista Beta 2. "We think we are on track for shipping early in [2007]," the Microsoft CEO said. "We've talked about the month, but we get a chance to critically assess all of the feedback we'll get from this beta release then confirm or move [the launch date] a few weeks. We put the beta out today... So we should start getting feedback right away." Other than that, Bill Gates said Microsoft will focus its products on 64bit, starting later this year.