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What scripts can't do. by ShawnZ on 07-07-2006 at 05:41 AM
Scripts as they are, are not advanced as some may think. What can scripts do? For starters, they can get and send text messages with MSN. They can open conversation windows and detect when someone changes their status. They can go as far as swapping your DP for an image stored on your computer. They can use many of Windows' built in features like opening a message box or reading files, and they can even use features from application extensions (DLL files.) However, if you're not a script developer, please don't let your imagination run wild with requests. If it couldn't be done before, it can't be done now. Scripts are just plugins that are easier to make. You can't make your display picture animated, you can't see your AIM contacts in messenger. Scripting isn't some magical tool that lets you do things you couldn't before, so please check if its actually possible before requesting a script to do it. Also, think logically about what messenger plus does, and what you think scripts can do. That is all.
sticky request.
RE: What scripts can't do. by absorbation on 07-07-2006 at 10:05 AM
Good point ShawnZ. When we do say they can be advanced, we mean as if calling functions from more advanced languages. We can't go past the Window's Live Messenger api. In fact, Plus! does not use all functions from the api, therefore scripting is not so great. Scripts are popular with developers because they are easy to create, the language is easy and Plus! makes the functions so much easier to use.
As ShawnZ said, scripts are not magical things that can do anything. They are limited, but with a good imagination they can do some useful stuff.
RE: What scripts can't do. by Duckness on 07-16-2006 at 02:23 AM
I don't know what really is possible? What was possible before and where can I find out?
Thanx
Duckness
RE: What scripts can't do. by twigboy on 07-23-2006 at 05:02 AM
but scripts have an interface to DLL's
which makes up for a large portion of missing functionality
RE: What scripts can't do. by Chestah on 07-23-2006 at 06:13 AM
quote:
Originally posted by twigboy
but scripts have an interface to DLL's
which makes up for a large portion of missing functionality
I think you are missing the point. Scripts can do everything the old plugins could do (.dlls) however in a much easier way for newer users to grasp onto.
RE: What scripts can't do. by twigboy on 07-23-2006 at 06:29 AM
hmm are they capable of hooking onto window procs?
(not trying to start an argument or anything, i just never noticed anything like that in the documentation)
RE: What scripts can't do. by Chestah on 07-23-2006 at 06:41 AM
quote:
Originally posted by twigboy
hmm are they capable of hooking onto window procs?
(not trying to start an argument or anything, i just never noticed anything like that in the documentation)
Put it this way: If you could do it using MP3 using .dlls then you can do it in scripts
RE: What scripts can't do. by dodos622 on 08-09-2006 at 08:47 PM
Hi,
I tried to learn Script, but I dont know how it works.
I only know Visual Basic and the good old Basic (Quickbasic or older).
But is it possible to create a simple script that can sent information to a Visual Basic created program and back?
Like a textfile or with a magical link between the both programs?
Greetings,
Erwin
RE: What scripts can't do. by Thor on 08-09-2006 at 09:11 PM
Please do not double post 
And yes, I believe that is possible.
RE: What scripts can't do. by matty on 08-10-2006 at 03:00 AM
quote:Matty's reply to [Resolved] Talking to VB.
Originally posted by dodos622
Hi,
I tried to learn Script, but I dont know how it works.
I only know Visual Basic and the good old Basic (Quickbasic or older).
But is it possible to create a simple script that can sent information to a Visual Basic created program and back?
Like a textfile or with a magical link between the both programs?
Greetings,
Erwin
Please do a search.
RE: What scripts can't do. by hell_flame85 on 11-28-2006 at 03:26 PM
but surely if u can change ur dp then u can have a animated dp just get it to change from pic1 to 2 to 3 ect every second or so and ur pic would be animated
RE: What scripts can't do. by CookieRevised on 11-28-2006 at 03:34 PM
quote:But that isn't animation at all...
Originally posted by hell_flame85
but surely if u can change ur dp then u can have a animated dp just get it to change from pic1 to 2 to 3 ect every second or so and ur pic would be animated
You effectivly change the DP every second, it wont be the same DP. This means that you constantly will be sending stuff to the messenger server and on its turn constantly to all your contacts. When you contacts aren't caching things, because they are on a public PC for example, your DP is constantly uploaded/downloaded. All this creates heavy bandwith usage.
By the time the DP has been updated on your contacts' side, you are probably already several DPs further. Making your 'animation' not smoothly and some changes will not even be seen at all.
Again, changing your DP every second is not something which is recommended to do, and it surely is not an "animated DP"; it still is a "different DP each second".
An "animated DP" is something which consists of 1 file and does not require constant network traffic; it runs locally...
What you are describing is a fast "slideshow" from several DPs to create the illusion of animation.
There's a big difference between the two.
Scripts can not make the use of animated DPs possible. No program can for that matter; you can't change how Messenger works that way.
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Seano911, what you referring to are not animated display pictures. What Spleak uses is a dynamic display picture.
Dynamic display pictures are made in Flash, they are not animated GIF images. In order to make a dynamic display picture you need to buy a (very expensive) license from Microsoft due to security reasons and the license is only given to companies.
Bottom line: it is not possible to make an animated display picture with any tool. You can buy them, but you can not change them, manipulate them, etc, not with an external program, not with Plus! scripts.
RE: What scripts can't do. by Seano911 on 04-07-2007 at 03:14 PM
Animated display pictures are possible, "Spleak" who's e-mail is Spleak@hotmail.com has an anitmated display picture, so if that's animated, what's stopping people from amking them. Sure scripts may not be able to, but yeah, it is possible to make them. Secondly, AIM I understand, that you can't edit the software, to make it display your contacts, but there's a way of controlling iTunes using scripts, can't someone make that but for AIM? Sure, it's not actually showing your AIM contacts, but it's a good step for the lazy people.
RE: RE: What scripts can't do. by deAd on 04-07-2007 at 03:50 PM
quote:You need a special license key from Microsoft to make them though. They're very expensive and Microsoft only gives them to certain companies.
Originally posted by Seano911
Animated display pictures are possible, "Spleak" who's e-mail is Spleak@hotmail.com has an anitmated display picture, so if that's animated, what's stopping people from amking them. Sure scripts may not be able to, but yeah, it is possible to make them.
RE: What scripts can't do. by Seano911 on 04-07-2007 at 05:11 PM
Ooh, very well, but still that proves it's not impossible.
RE: What scripts can't do. by ShawnZ on 04-07-2007 at 07:06 PM
thats not an animated display picture, its a dynamic display pictures. dynamic display pictures are taller, and aren't linear (they're written in flash)
RE: What scripts can't do. by ahmetgns on 04-22-2007 at 03:47 AM
quote:What is the difference? I have never heard animated DP before.
Originally posted by ShawnZ
thats not an animated display picture, its a dynamic display pictures.
RE: What scripts can't do. by Felu on 04-22-2007 at 06:50 AM
quote:You can have a look here. Thats what a Dynamic Display Picture is. A series of display pictures one after another can't create the same effect. It takes about 5-10 seconds for a display picture to update.
Originally posted by ahmetgns
quote:What is the difference? I have never heard animated DP before.
Originally posted by ShawnZ
thats not an animated display picture, its a dynamic display pictures.
RE: What scripts can't do. by zingbats on 03-12-2008 at 04:58 PM
The message window received event doesn't handle invitations... Is there an event that does? I can't find one.
RE: What scripts can't do. by dt770 on 07-20-2008 at 03:48 PM
there use to be a plugin that tells you if someone has open a chat window for you....
is this possible?
RE: RE: What scripts can't do. by Aeryn on 07-20-2008 at 06:32 PM
quote:Unfortunately such notifiers don't work. More info here.
Originally posted by dt770
there use to be a plugin that tells you if someone has open a chat window for you....
is this possible?
RE: What scripts can't do. by frosty1433 on 07-26-2009 at 10:39 AM
Something that definately got my attention, is the fact that there was no UAC when installing a script. MsgPlus was able to copy files to the program files, and even registered a dll it had copied. Is there some explanation for this? As far as I can tell, there is no service at system level, that is related to MsgPlus.
RE: What scripts can't do. by myskoko on 02-05-2010 at 02:54 PM
I've been told that there is a script to see "appear-offline" contacts, but i can't find it.
Is it true?
If so, where could i find it?
RE: What scripts can't do. by djdannyp on 02-05-2010 at 02:59 PM
quote:
Originally posted by myskoko
I've been told that there is a script to see "appear-offline" contacts, but i can't find it.
Is it true?
If so, where could i find it?
This is no longer possible. Anything claiming to do this is, at best, a hoax or, at worst, a virus.
If it were possible to detect contacts "Appearing Offline" it would render the function useless.
RE: What scripts can't do. by rafaelwbr on 12-18-2011 at 02:52 AM
is possible to get the number of the local (user) connected on the same account? eg. you login 2 times using ebuddy so there will be 2 locals connected at the same account. Is there a function to get this value? thanks.
RE: What scripts can't do. by CookieRevised on 12-18-2011 at 04:26 AM
quote:No, you can't retrieve the amount of logged in accounts (also known as MPoP feature - Multiple Point of Presence) with Plus! scripting.
Originally posted by rafaelwbr
is possible to get the number of the local (user) connected on the same account? eg. you login 2 times using ebuddy so there will be 2 locals connected at the same account. Is there a function to get this value? thanks.
RE: What scripts can't do. by Spunky on 12-18-2011 at 05:47 AM
Was working on this, but I need a more reliable packet sniffer than Xniff
RE: What scripts can't do. by CookieRevised on 12-18-2011 at 07:59 AM
quote:That almost seems like the holy grail for scripting...
Originally posted by Spunky
Was working on this, but I need a more reliable packet sniffer than Xniff
RE: What scripts can't do. by Spunky on 12-18-2011 at 08:57 AM
How hard can it be, right? 