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lost log! by .. . on 07-09-2006 at 10:34 AM

there i was happily chattin and viewing a chatlog(encrypted html) from earlier in tha evening when i closed tha actual chat window in msn (same one i was viewing) and kaput! tha entire chat log for that contact dissapered.. . :@ (only had started logging that day) i have done many searches on my computer and none have turned up anything.. . i am quite angry about this an tried 2 contact patchou personally an learned i couldnt do so.. only 2 waste 2 hours trying 2 register for this stupid forum (no insult guys) but i am really quite annoyed as it was a VERY important chat and i had started logging with plus encrypted logs becouse i thought it was more secure... obviously not.. neway anyone who could help or offer any advice wouldnt be much appreciated.. .


RE: lost log! by matty on 07-09-2006 at 05:57 PM

What happens if you try and open the chat log by going to Plus! > Open Chat Log in the conversation for that person? Have you checked the folder where the logs are to see if it has been moved to a subdirectory? As well we have over 50,000 registered members can't complain that it takes over 2 hours to register cause the name is not unique.


RE: lost log! by Chris4 on 07-09-2006 at 06:24 PM

Don't you have the MSN/Windows Live Messenger logs saved?

In the conversation .. File > View Message History


RE: lost log! by .. . on 07-10-2006 at 07:55 AM

ggrrrr u think i sum fuckin computer illiterate or something? i have tried every possible aspect of opening tha file it is completely gone... and yea i can complain it takes 2 hours 2 regisiter cus my name was unique from tha start it was waitin 4 that damn email that got me :@ not 2 seem rude but as i said this was a VERY VERY important log.. . but yes i have tried opening tha log using lots of diff methods even searchin my entire harddrive 4 nethin with .ple as its extension.. but yea could sum1 try this urself (with a non important chat) close a chat u r veiwing in chatlogger and see what happens thanx
PEACE


RE: lost log! by Vilkku on 07-10-2006 at 08:03 AM

AFAIK WLM saves the logs with the .xml extension and MP!L uses the .html extension.


RE: lost log! by .. . on 07-10-2006 at 08:51 AM

i kno this!! but i was using MP!L encryption and it uses tha .ple extension! im afraid i may not be making myself clear but i wish u nerds u would actually listen and not just try n show off ur 'knowledge' of trivial irrelivant things! thanx again
PEACE


RE: RE: lost log! by MattyRid on 07-10-2006 at 09:11 AM

quote:
Originally posted by .. .
im afraid i may not be making myself clear but i wish u nerds u would actually listen and not just try n show off ur 'knowledge' of trivial irrelivant things! thanx again
PEACE


Before trying to be a smarty about it, the people trying to help you obivously were trying to help each other while trying to help you. So calm down take a chill pill because they will help you find a solution.

EDIT: Also complaing that it takes 2 hours to register doesn't make you any friends either. Infact with you saying it takes 2 hours to register makes me think that you don't even know what you talking about in regards to your problem.

and another thing..where in the world did ".ple" come from, AFAIK ,that has got to do with Plus! settings or something, not chat logs. What Vilkku has said is right so perhaps that can help some of the others get a solution for you.
RE: lost log! by vinix on 07-10-2006 at 10:15 AM

I have similar problem, but it's far smaller.

When I review the log of MP!L, I found that the first sentence of the last chat is lost, I'm sure because I can see that in the chat log of the ML! itself.

I am using Win2003 Enterprise SP1 Chinese Traditional.
The version of ML! is 8.0.0792.00, and MP!L is 4.0.0.235.

What's the cause?:(


RE: RE: RE: lost log! by .. . on 07-10-2006 at 01:11 PM

quote:
Originally posted by MattyRid
quote:
Originally posted by .. .

Before trying to be a smarty about it, the people trying to help you obivously were trying to help each other while trying to help you. So calm down take a chill pill because they will help you find a solution.


ok i can c what ur trying 2 say here and i understand.. but no1 else really had a problem with this did they? sept that poor chinese guy who misses his 1st sentance.. but i lost a whole log! and i do apolagise for my rude manners but i am unhappy 2 say that i have learnt it is sometimes tha best way 2 make someone listen.. expessially on tha net, its tha easist way 2 convay passion.. that alone is not an excuse, but it was late, i was angry and i guess i just wanted results quick.. . modern human nature really.. . neway nuff chit chat on with tha problem.. .

quote:
Originally posted by MattyRid
EDIT: Also complaing that it takes 2 hours to register doesn't make you any friends either. Infact with you saying it takes 2 hours to register makes me think that you don't even know what you talking about in regards to your problem. 
^^BUT THATS NOT HELPING!!^^

and another thing..where in the world did ".ple" come from, AFAIK ,that has got to do with Plus! settings or something, not chat logs. What Vilkku has said is right so perhaps that can help some of the others get a solution for you.


i infact do kno what i am talking about.. not specifically(i didnt get tha benifits of a good education like u my good fellow, i kno enuf tho) but it is a bug with MP!L's encrypted chat logging.. program shall i say? that causes you chat log(well mine neway) 2 dissapear if u close tha log while u are veiwing, must be something 2 do with tha fact it cant encrpt 2 a file that is being read.. correct me if im wrong. thankyou
tha only thing i dont understand is ur "leet-code shit" AFAIK and how tha hell did u get tha idea that i didnt kno what i was talking about from tha fact it took 2 hours 4 these guys 2 send me an email.. .  :S geez humans r strange.. .
oh btw ".ple" is infact what the encrypted chat logs extensions are when i view them in explorer, vikko was tha one that angered me so much tha 2nd time round.. not even reading my problem.. within tha 1st 10 words i explain my problem is with.. u guessed it, ENCRYPTED HTML!!

anyway sorry if i seemed abusive.. thank you for trying 2 listen.. its not ur fault, really, blame our last 2000 years of history.. a history of ignorance, but just becouse u ignore, dosent mean i dont exsist.. thank you for noticing my anger.. im not blaming you, but i wouldnt have 2 b like this if it wassnt for people like you.. .  and me sometimes too.
PEACE
P.ositive E.ducation A.dvocates C.ultural E.mpowerment

RE: lost log! by matty on 07-10-2006 at 05:13 PM

So the entire log was deleted is what your saying not just the session  that was supposed to be logged. I could understand if it was the session that was lost if Patchou had forgot to close the handle to the file or not give it access for anything else to write to it then that would happen but for the file to be completly lost is odd. I will run some tests tonight see what I can come up with.

quote:
Originally posted by .. .
tha only thing i dont understand is ur "leet-code shit" AFAIK and how tha hell did u get tha idea that i didnt kno what i was talking about from tha fact it took 2 hours 4 these guys 2 send me an email.. .   geez humans r strange.. .
This boards email system is automated. So it shouldn't have taken 2 hours to recieve the email it might have been the mail server itself unless the email server was experiencing hicups.

quote:
Originally posted by vinix
When I review the log of MP!L, I found that the first sentence of the last chat is lost, I'm sure because I can see that in the chat log of the ML! itself.
This is a known issue so far there is not a fix yet for it. No one is actually sure what causes it either. I have experienced it myself as well.

quote:
Originally posted by Matty
What happens if you try and open the chat log by going to Plus! > Open Chat Log in the conversation for that person? Have you checked the folder where the logs are to see if it has been moved to a subdirectory?
And going back to my original unanswered questions
What happens if you try to open the log from the conversation window? Does it say there is no log for that contact?
RE: RE: lost log! by .. . on 07-10-2006 at 10:50 PM

quote:
Originally posted by Matty
So the entire log was deleted is what your saying not just the session  that was supposed to be logged. I could understand if it was the session that was lost if Patchou had forgot to close the handle to the file or not give it access for anything else to write to it then that would happen but for the file to be completly lost is odd. I will run some tests tonight see what I can come up with.
thankyou this is tha 1st positive help i have received.. b4 people were just trying 2 talk shit.. . cheers
but yes that log only had 1 previous session in it.. from earlier in tha day, as i had only started using MP!L 2 encrypt logs earlier that day.. . but yea thats sorta what i was thinkin.. i just couldnt have put it like that lol cheers mate

quote:
Originally posted by Matty
This boards email system is automated. So it shouldn't have taken 2 hours to recieve the email it might have been the mail server itself unless the email server was experiencing hicups.

yea this issent really a problem nemore as i am now a member and i think my log is long past saving but i still wanna kno what caused this bug.. i was just impatient at tha time.. soz

quote:
Originally posted by Matty
quote:
Originally posted by Matty
What happens if you try and open the chat log by going to Plus! > Open Chat Log in the conversation for that person? Have you checked the folder where the logs are to see if it has been moved to a subdirectory?
And going back to my original unanswered questions
What happens if you try to open the log from the conversation window? Does it say there is no log for that contact?


dosnt open, dosnt open, like i said b4 im not that computer illiterate i kno 2 have a decent look around b4 wasting my time (and yours) on a forum.. . no matter which way i try and open it.. it wont open.. MIGHT B BECAUSE THERE IS NO FILE 2 OPEN!?! MAYB!? hmmmmmm yes it sez there is no log 4 that contact.. geez aint that weird aswell! sorry if i seem rude but 4 a guy as smart as urself u sure ask sum dumb questions.. . or do u just assume that it is i that is dumb? i suppose u hafta work like this as there are a tad few really dumb people that come on here with a problem, but i assure u my freind i am not one of them.. i have tha same problem in my industry, a surveyor.. .
PEACE
RE: lost log! by matty on 07-11-2006 at 01:47 AM

quote:
Originally posted by .. .
dosnt open, dosnt open, like i said b4 im not that computer illiterate i kno 2 have a decent look around b4 wasting my time (and yours) on a forum.. . no matter which way i try and open it.. it wont open.. MIGHT B BECAUSE THERE IS NO FILE 2 OPEN!?! MAYB!? hmmmmmm yes it sez there is no log 4 that contact.. geez aint that weird aswell! sorry if i seem rude but 4 a guy as smart as urself u sure ask sum dumb questions.. . or do u just assume that it is i that is dumb? i suppose u hafta work like this as there are a tad few really dumb people that come on here with a problem, but i assure u my freind i am not one of them.. i have tha same problem in my industry, a surveyor.. .
PEACE
Ok you know what I am seriously getting pissed off with your attitude ok. Fuck don't be rude when I am trying to help you. I asked a simply question you dont have to go into saying your not computer illiterate we get the point you said that in your first post. The fact remains you didn't answer at all when I first asked it. Reason I was asking was if it provided a different error aside from there not being a log for the contact we would need to look into that as apose to the log just being deleted. Got it? Ok good now I am going to figure this out.



Ok so I tested my theory. Protected my logs with 2048bit encryption. Started a session sent a few messages. Closed the session. Opened the log. Started another session. Sent a few messages. Closed the session. Closed the chat and the log was still there and I could still open it. If you did anything different please let me know.
RE: lost log! by hatfeight on 01-17-2007 at 07:42 PM

Hi Matty
I wish i would have read this thread before i lost my chat log , exactly same problem like this guy . I was reading the chat log and changed to another user in the log viewer, it starts  decrypting file , but when came back to the original one , it says access denied , i checked the folder the file was gone , simply gone the whole log of the month , a file bigger than 9 MB was wasted and i spent more than an hour to locate it but useless
tell me what to do , it cant just vanished , shouldnt it?
Thanks
Fahad
fahad@kazmi.ws


RE: lost log! by Rolando on 01-17-2007 at 07:49 PM

quote:
Originally posted by .. .
i kno this!! but i was using MP!L encryption and it uses tha .ple extension! im afraid i may not be making myself clear but i wish u nerds u would actually listen and not just try n show off ur 'knowledge' of trivial irrelivant things! thanx again
PEACE

Comming here and calling members nerds and complaining will not get them to help you.

quote:
Originally posted by MattyRid
Before trying to be a smarty about it, the people trying to help you obivously were trying to help each other while trying to help you. So calm down take a chill pill because they will help you find a solution.

EDIT: Also complaing that it takes 2 hours to register doesn't make you any friends either. Infact with you saying it takes 2 hours to register makes me think that you don't even know what you talking about in regards to your problem.

and another thing..where in the world did ".ple" come from, AFAIK ,that has got to do with Plus! settings or something, not chat logs. What Vilkku has said is right so perhaps that can help some of the others get a solution for you.

Anyways... Are you sure there are not hidden? Did you click on 'Search hidden files and folders' .. 'All Files and Folders' ?

RE: lost log! by qgroessl on 01-18-2007 at 03:17 AM

quote:
Originally posted by q25
quote:
Originally posted by .. .
i kno this!! but i was using MP!L encryption and it uses tha .ple extension! im afraid i may not be making myself clear but i wish u nerds u would actually listen and not just try n show off ur 'knowledge' of trivial irrelivant things! thanx again
PEACE

Comming here and calling members nerds and complaining will not get them to help you.

quote:
Originally posted by MattyRid
Before trying to be a smarty about it, the people trying to help you obivously were trying to help each other while trying to help you. So calm down take a chill pill because they will help you find a solution.

EDIT: Also complaing that it takes 2 hours to register doesn't make you any friends either. Infact with you saying it takes 2 hours to register makes me think that you don't even know what you talking about in regards to your problem.

and another thing..where in the world did ".ple" come from, AFAIK ,that has got to do with Plus! settings or something, not chat logs. What Vilkku has said is right so perhaps that can help some of the others get a solution for you.

Anyways... Are you sure there are not hidden? Did you click on 'Search hidden files and folders' .. 'All Files and Folders' ?

Look at the date on the posts... those are all old ;)...

quote:
Originally posted by hatfeight
Hi Matty
I wish i would have read this thread before i lost my chat log , exactly same problem like this guy . I was reading the chat log and changed to another user in the log viewer, it starts  decrypting file , but when came back to the original one , it says access denied , i checked the folder the file was gone , simply gone the whole log of the month , a file bigger than 9 MB was wasted and i spent more than an hour to locate it but useless
tell me what to do , it cant just vanished , shouldnt it?
Thanks
Fahad
fahad@kazmi.ws



BUMP
RE: lost log! by 99scollings on 06-29-2007 at 04:40 PM

I'm glad to see I'm not the only one with this problem.

I opened an encrypted log (correct password and everything) in the chat log viewer today. Then sent an offline message to that person, so pressed F5, hoping it would refresh it; didn't work. So I clicked on the same month again; it said that access was denied. I thought that strange, since once I've typed in the password, I can click on any file for any other contact that has that same password and it will automatically decrypt (unless I had since exited the log viewer, of course).
Anyway, am slightly drifting from the point now. So I clicked on a different month for that contact, waited for that to finish decrypting, then clicked back on June 2007 for that contact. It then said something like 'the file cannot be found' (apologies, can't remember exactly what it said).
I've restarted the computer, searched 3 times and restored my computer to yesterday, all to no avail.
I opened up a conversation window with the said contact, then went to Plus! > Open Chat Log...., entered in the correct password, and it just created a new June 2007 file....it's just a completely blank file entitled with 'Messenger Plus! Chat Log', and I know damn well it was fairly full before. It too was quite important.

There is obviously some sort of bug or whatever in this, I no longer have WLM save the logs for me (haven't since February) and opted for Messenger Plus! Live to save them, as the encryption helped with my privacy problems. I hope it can be brought to attention soon.

Soraya.


RE: lost log! by Ezra on 06-29-2007 at 05:45 PM

I can confirm this bug.

However I was able to recover the log, because the tmp file was still there.

I open the chat log, open a message window, send a message and then close it, after this the log will be gone.

Also I don't know if it's related, but wlm also crashed a little later.

EDIT: Version details

Windows XP Service Pack 1 (5.1.2600)
Windows Live Messenger 8.1.0178
Messenger Plus! Live 4.23.0.276


RE: lost log! by Ezra on 07-02-2007 at 10:52 PM

* bump

I think this is a very serious bug and needs to be fixed asap.