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Before getting LIVE, Facing the facts, Question too. by msnfangirl on 07-20-2006 at 06:17 AM

Greetings.

For those who know a lot about the new msn live, msgplus live and scripts available, before getting the new msn live i have some questions i would like and will aprecciate to get anwered.

Here are them: ( i will aprreciate to get an anwer form people that knows)

1)I know in the new msn live you can talk while being appear offline (invisible) to online contacts? is this true?

-While i am on appear offline and i talk to someone did my contacts are able to see my display up tdated (if i change it they see  the new)

- can i see their new display or if they change it while being appear offline, even if i just only open their window and talk to them?

-If this feature works even if the contact has an older version?

2)How i know a contacts msn current version? (i can know wich version of msn they have 7.5, 8.0?)

-If yes tell me how

-If i need plug in give  me a link to it or the name of the plug in or script

3)Stealing displays

-the msg plus live has this feature?

-if i need script a link or name?

4)Open conversation/closing conversation window notifier?

- i know the new msn protocols cant allow accuarate notifier on who open or close your conversaton window.

-But i will like  the bests cript to help me with tit even if it is the one who tell who is downloading your displays.

-just tell me the best script or way or method of getting the most accuarate notifier.

-Links,names please

5)Ok in the old msg plus there was the contact information wich says wich time a person changes to away offline etc...

-in the new msg plus is there more detailed contact information featured?

-is there an script that  is better than this?

6)Notifications

-Each time we put th eoption in contact to notify each time it changes stuff it pop up a windows.

- i wanna know if now we can know for sure if person really changed from appar offline to online or etc, or if is just signed on?

- i know we cnat know if a contact is appear ofline but we can know when they switch form sppear to online and when did it really just signed on.

-notification now detects auto-away?

-is there a script

-wich one, name link?

7) polygamy
-msg plus has it?
-script name link?

------From now it maybe not related with msg plus or maybe there is new script or programs but if anyones know anwer me please-------

-How i know if a contact uses another email or account and wich one it is or if i can know if she just use many or if it uses polygamy, how? any links? any method program-
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I heard the msg discovery for live is kinda bad or unreliable please when you suggest offer the best thing and accuarate.

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Thanks in advance, I already searched some forums but i get confused and some times dont knwo what is the best so i ask you guys who know  alot more and spent much more time so i get the best and best advice too.

Thanks
Dianna


RE: Before getting LIVE, Facing the facts, Question too. by welshboy222 on 07-20-2006 at 06:42 AM

1. Yes it is
2. You can know because it shows a seperate list from WLM contacts to just normal msn contacts
3. Not sure about that one.
4. You should have a notifier when you have it.
5. Not yet soz.
6. There isn't a way to do this at the mo.
7. no soz it doesn't.


RE: Before getting LIVE, Facing the facts, Question too. by msnfangirl on 07-20-2006 at 06:47 AM

Thank you wishboy but i need  more elaborated anwers and the link and names on where i asked it and is avaliable, also i need someone experienced, since the steal display thing is available just to make sure how...

Anyway someone that can really take time to anwer me in a good way with knowlege :)


RE: Before getting LIVE, Facing the facts, Question too. by segosa on 07-20-2006 at 06:52 AM

Why don't you just find out for yourself?

-While i am on appear offline and i talk to someone did my contacts are able to see my display up tdated (if i change it they see  the new)

- can i see their new display or if they change it while being appear offline, even if i just only open their window and talk to them?


I would need to go figure this out myself, just like you would. So why should I do the work for you?


RE: Before getting LIVE, Facing the facts, Question too. by msnfangirl on 07-20-2006 at 06:54 AM

dazmatic Thank you-


about finding out my self, i have kinda slow connection and i dont want install aheavy program just to figure out this si why i ask thise questions then i decide if install it


Still needing elaborated anwers with examples in each question!


RE: Before getting LIVE, Facing the facts, Question too. by msnfangirl on 07-20-2006 at 07:04 AM

Thank you dazmatic---

Still looking for anwers!


RE: RE: Before getting LIVE, Facing the facts, Question too. by markee on 07-20-2006 at 07:26 AM

quote:
Originally posted by Dazmatic
im shure i was a script for polygamy somewhere, ill have a look:P
There's no need for a script when it is already in MP!L :P
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RE: Before getting LIVE, Facing the facts, Question too. by Pai on 07-20-2006 at 12:30 PM

Geez, and they say I'm lazy ...


RE: Before getting LIVE, Facing the facts, Question too. by Pyroteq on 07-20-2006 at 01:03 PM

Wheres cookie? He will give you a nice answer to all your questions..


RE: Before getting LIVE, Facing the facts, Question too. by sql on 07-20-2006 at 01:05 PM

quote:
Originally posted by msnfangirl
1)I know in the new msn live you can talk while being appear offline (invisible) to online contacts? is this true?
Yes, it is true.

-While i am on appear offline and i talk to someone did my contacts are able to see my display up tdated (if i change it they see  the new)
If you talk to someone while you're offline, you keep the status offline, if you change, they'll see it

- can i see their new display or if they change it while being appear offline, even if i just only open their window and talk to them?
You should be able to see, but that doesn't matter o.ó

-If this feature works even if the contact has an older version?
Yes, but I'm not sure that they can reply while you're offline

2)How i know a contacts msn current version? (i can know wich version of msn they have 7.5, 8.0?)
If they send you a message while you're offline, and when you get online you receive that message(like icq) they're using WLM, if not they're 7.5 or under.There's no plugin I think.

3)Stealing displays
Yes, msgplus live has this feature, type /ctcinfo and save the img

4)Open conversation/closing conversation window notifier?
Not available on WLM, and I'm not so sure if in the past worked 100% o.O, there's no notifier script to WLM, even stuffplug will remove this feature on v.3.0. In another words, no notifier at all

-Links,names please
My name is Eric, nice to meet you
-msgpluslive.net (msgplus =D)
-ideas.live.com  (wlm)
-msghelp.net  (scripts)
-stuffplug.com (3rd party prog now)


5)Ok in the old msg plus there was the contact information wich says wich time a person changes to away offline etc...

-in the new msg plus is there more detailed contact information featured?
Yeah, there are more detailed..you can see in the log the time where they change their psm, their nicks, their status, etc etc etc..

-is there an script that  is better than this?
this what? msgplus is not a script

6)Notifications

-Each time we put th eoption in contact to notify each time it changes stuff it pop up a windows.
Translate, please.

- i wanna know if now we can know for sure if person really changed from appar offline to online or etc, or if is just signed on?
Offline = Appear Offline, you'll just be able to know if the person replies, sending a msg.

- i know we cnat know if a contact is appear ofline but we can know when they switch form sppear to online and when did it really just signed on.
That doesn't matter, its offline -> online , if he/she was appearing to be offline, you won't find out

-notification now detects auto-away?
???
-is there a script
Search or ask for a god soul to do it o.o

7) polygamy
-msg plus has it?
Yes.


-How i know if a contact uses another email or account and wich one it is or if i can know if she just use many or if it uses polygamy, how? any links? any method program-
Buy a crystal ball and go for it.

I heard the msg discovery for live is kinda bad or unreliable please when you suggest offer the best thing and accuarate.
IMO, it sucks.

ps: If you have an avg computer, win xp, switch to wlm+msgplus live , it's a lot better than the old one =)
ps2: Stop being that lazy or you won't find a husband(just a joke, =x)
ps3: No problem. =)

Thanks
Dianna


RE: Before getting LIVE, Facing the facts, Question too. by cloudhunter on 07-20-2006 at 01:36 PM

Don't ask me WHY I am wasting time to do this when all the information is available but:

quote:
Originally posted by msnfangirl
1)I know in the new msn live you can talk while being appear offline (invisible) to online contacts? is this true?

Yes, yes it is.

quote:
Originally posted by msnfangirl
-While i am on appear offline and i talk to someone did my contacts are able to see my display up tdated (if i change it they see  the new)

Nope. You'd have to be online for that.

quote:
Originally posted by msnfangirl
- can i see their new display or if they change it while being appear offline, even if i just only open their window and talk to them?

I'm pretty sure you can.

quote:
Originally posted by msnfangirl
-If this feature works even if the contact has an older version?

Yes it does, but they have to make sure they reply within a minute or they wont be able to reply.

quote:
Originally posted by msnfangirl
2)How i know a contacts msn current version? (i can know wich version of msn they have 7.5, 8.0?)

-If yes tell me how

-If i need plug in give  me a link to it or the name of the plug in or script

It isn't possible with Plus! Live, or a script. Best thing to do is to just ask them ;) Something along the lines of "Have you got the new messenger?"

quote:
Originally posted by msnfangirl
3)Stealing displays

-the msg plus live has this feature?

-if i need script a link or name?

No script needed, right click on a contact, click "Messenger Plus Features" and click "Contact Information..." and click "Save this image"

quote:
Originally posted by msnfangirl
4)Open conversation/closing conversation window notifier?

- i know the new msn protocols cant allow accuarate notifier on who open or close your conversaton window.

-But i will like  the bests cript to help me with tit even if it is the one who tell who is downloading your displays.

-just tell me the best script or way or method of getting the most accuarate notifier.

-Links,names please

You can't do this just yet, but someone is working on a script to do just that. Stay tuned :)

quote:
Originally posted by msnfangirl
6)Notifications

-Each time we put th eoption in contact to notify each time it changes stuff it pop up a windows.

Sorry, didn't understand the question.

quote:
Originally posted by msnfangirl
- i wanna know if now we can know for sure if person really changed from appar offline to online or etc, or if is just signed on?

Nope. The protocol isn't designed that way.

quote:
Originally posted by msnfangirl
- i know we cnat know if a contact is appear ofline but we can know when they switch form sppear to online and when did it really just signed on.

See above ;)

quote:
Originally posted by msnfangirl
-notification now detects auto-away?

Yes you can turn it on in the options.

-is there a script

-wich one, name link?

quote:
Originally posted by msnfangirl
7) polygamy
-msg plus has it?
-script name link?

Plus has it, someone said how to do it earlier in the thread ;)

quote:
Originally posted by msnfangirl
------From now it maybe not related with msg plus or maybe there is new script or programs but if anyones know anwer me please-------

-How i know if a contact uses another email or account and wich one it is or if i can know if she just use many or if it uses polygamy, how? any links? any method program-
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I'm sorry, that isn't possible. Not easily anyway.

quote:
Originally posted by msnfangil
I heard the msg discovery for live is kinda bad or unreliable please when you suggest offer the best thing and accuarate.

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I'm sorry, what do you mean by that? Unreliable in what aspect?

quote:
Originally posted by msnfangirl
Thanks in advance, I already searched some forums but i get confused and some times dont knwo what is the best so i ask you guys who know  alot more and spent much more time so i get the best and best advice too.

Thanks
Dianna

You're welcome... But in future find out the information yourself, and put it in the correct forum if you have any queries. Scripting forum isn't the right place ;)

Cloudy

Edit: Beaten to it... but look at em ;)
RE: Before getting LIVE, Facing the facts, Question too. by RaceProUK on 07-20-2006 at 01:41 PM

quote:
Originally posted by welshboy222
1. Yes it is
2. You can know because it shows a seperate list from WLM contacts to just normal msn contacts
3. Not sure about that one.
4. You should have a notifier when you have it.
5. Not yet soz.
6. There isn't a way to do this at the mo.
7. no soz it doesn't.
Answer 2 is just plain wrong. WLM does not separate contacts based on client version. In fact, WLM never receives that information.
And answer 6 is inaccurate. There's no workaround at all: 'Appear Offline' is exactly that, you appear to be offline. There's no way to tell the difference.