Hi I might be getting DreamWeaver and I was wondering about the good and bad points about it.

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I suggest do not use DreamWeaver. It will make you a sloppy coder and you won't learn a thing + all websites you make will be of a same quality. Try learning html the right way, it is by far the best option .

I do know how to use html but thanks for your opinion.

I like it, I don't use the visual part of it, only the code, but when I've coded, I look at the visual to check it, then I go back to the code part to fix. So, I'm happy with it, works and it makes everything faster, (so that I don't need to use a seperate FTP client).

HTML is very easy to learn, just like css and xhtml etc....
The best way to learn is by looking and trying. I used to think to myself "Why code html myself when dreamweaver can make one much quicker!
So I do advise you to try it yourself

And to help use Notepad ++ it helps loads.
Notepad++'s website

dremaweaver would basically code your website for you, which means you dont have to code it (and in some people's eyes this would be a good point), but the bad point of it is it uses very messy coding, which is prone to not displaying correctly and can become very annoying.

A much better way would be to learn html, i learnt it within a few hours and soon had my website built. Plus, if you learn html the 'proper' way then you will soon become very skilled, whereas with dreamweaver progress is slow. I highly recommend W3Schools for a very good html tutorial. It's also got a good css one as well

EDIT: fixed link, thankles Felu!

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Originally posted by methos
dremaweaver would basically code your website for you, which means you dont have to code it (and in some people's eyes this would be a good point), but the bad point of it is it uses very messy coding, which is prone to not displaying correctly and can become very annoying.

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Nahh dreamweaver inserts a lot of useless code.
Heres some that i can think of the top of my head:
<table border="0"> this doesnt need the "Border="0"
And theres some more but i can't think of the top of my head

does it actually matter? maybe it was put there to teach people another variable?

i use flash, dreamweaver and frontpage as its nice and easy and can quickly preview stuff make drag and drop stuff for a simple site, and use code editor for more advanced stuff, tidying up and tweaking


My one big downside about dreamweaver is keyboard shortcuts, they are not standard and so really fuck things up sometimes hopefully adobe will sort things out in CS3/Studio 9

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Originally posted by Nathan
Ok,
If you know html then can you write us one page saying Hello Msghelp friends in a div which is centered and  the text in a paragraph.

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I use dreamweaver for create the majority of my websites, all I do is put my code into the code area and refresh the viewing area to see what my code has done. You don't need to let it create the code for you, and I don't, so I do suggest getting it, it makes your coding quite a bit faster by auto-closing tags, etc.

I use dreamweaver for my websites, but I also use Go Live and Homesite 5 they're useful too.
Dreamweaver is the good one

yes auto closign of tags was something that i did like about dreamweaver, which annoyed me in frontpage's code editor

if i was changing the order of something eg. <a><b> to <b><a> i'd start typing and it would turn to <b></b><a></a> dreamweaver i didn't have this problem

Well I recommend trying Dreamweaver and try some other editors to. But first I would say learn HTML. Then move your way into the programing language you want to learn (if you want to). Then find a editor that will work with what you need todo.

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Originally posted by Snake
... But first I would say learn HTML...

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Originally posted by Lourix
I do know how to use html but thanks for your opinion.

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http://www.mcinferno.co.uk was dun on a downloaded template and DW.... nuffin amazing or out the ordinary, but its half decent, does the job. better then piczo anyway.

I hate piczo...and WOO! I LOVE Dreamweaver...and yeah it does kinda code most of your stuff your you... but at least it provides code view so you can at least see what it's doing, and you can even edit that yourself..I think...can't remember

Yes, yes you can...

Cloudy

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Originally posted by MC Inferno
but its half decent

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The Mac version of Dreamweaver uses Opera's Presto engine for its layouting, and so if you use Dreamweaver for Mac, the code will be standards compliant.

or if you want something free download NVU ( http://www.nvu.com/index.php ) its easy to use and it uses the gecko engine so it will be standards compliant

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Originally posted by -dt-
or if you want something free download NVU ( http://www.nvu.com/index.php ) its easy to use and it uses the gecko engine so it will be standards compliant

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Still the best way to do it is by hand, and by having it open in your browser editing it in notepad(c++) press
Ctrl + S then alt + tab to browser click F5 and theres your results

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or if you want something free download NVU ( http://www.nvu.com/index.php ) its easy to use and it uses the gecko engine so it will be standards compliant

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The Gecko engine isn't 100% standards compliant.

afaik only Presto and WebKit are.

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Originally posted by saralk

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or if you want something free download NVU ( http://www.nvu.com/index.php ) its easy to use and it uses the gecko engine so it will be standards compliant

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The Gecko engine isn't 100% standards compliant.

afaik only Presto and WebKit are.

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wtf are you on, no engine is 100% compliant and just before you and other opera fanboys start shouting "omg firefox doesnt pass acid2" plz2look
http://random.thedt.net/firefoxacid2.jpg

That is all.

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or if you want something free download NVU ( http://www.nvu.com/index.php ) its easy to use and it uses the gecko engine so it will be standards compliant

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The Gecko engine isn't 100% standards compliant.

afaik only Presto and WebKit are.

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wtf are you on, no engine is 100% compliant and just before you and other opera fanboys start shouting "omg firefox doesnt pass acid2" plz2look
http://random.thedt.net/firefoxacid2.jpg

That is all.

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Are you using a Firefox2 Beta? Or are you using the Acid2 Greasemonkey Script?

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Originally posted by saralk

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Originally posted by -dt-

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Originally posted by saralk

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or if you want something free download NVU ( http://www.nvu.com/index.php ) its easy to use and it uses the gecko engine so it will be standards compliant

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The Gecko engine isn't 100% standards compliant.

afaik only Presto and WebKit are.

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wtf are you on, no engine is 100% compliant and just before you and other opera fanboys start shouting "omg firefox doesnt pass acid2" plz2look
http://random.thedt.net/firefoxacid2.jpg

That is all.

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Are you using a Firefox2 Beta? Or are you using the Acid2 Greasemonkey Script?

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that doesn't make firefox pass acid2, it just replaces the test with the reference image

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Originally posted by saralk
There is a Semi Public build that just about passes it.

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Originally posted by saralk
Yeah, I know. But there is no way to tell if he used thatfrom that screenshot. I just wanted to make sure there was nobamboozlement going on.There is a Semi Public build that just about passes it.

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Originally posted by -dt-
http://random.thedt.net/firefoxacid2.jpg

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What theme are you using dt?
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Originally posted by Dazmatic
it could be XP with a transformation pack or a vista theme....

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The main thing that aggrevates me with Dreamweaver is the way that it edits your code, so if you go to the preview, it tries to fix the website for you, when it doesn't even need fixing!

Plus, the output isn't valid xhtml or css.

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Plus, the output isn't valid xhtml or css.

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But why dont they put that as default :/