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3G by Weyzza on 09-22-2006 at 01:56 AM
I was thinking to get Sony Ericsson K800 tomorrow.
I did search but I still couldn't understand how the 3G technology will be useful for me.
Can someone explain to me the use of 3G other than faster downloads and makes you looks cool because you have 3G on your phone?
Can I use VoIP if I have a 3G phone?
If any of you has 3G subscription, can you tell me how much more you pay for the subscription compared to the regular service?
I read news about T-Mobile USA just won 850MHz bandwidth in a wireless auction spectrum.
And all news I read seem to imply that the 3G will using GSM 850, but K800 doesn't have that band. Can someone clarify this?
RE: 3G by Vilkku on 09-22-2006 at 04:22 AM
3G allows your phone to send and recieve data with a speed much faster than the old mobiles. Here in Finland, the most popular features of 3G phones are video calls (you can see the one you are speaking to and she/he can see can see you with no lag) and watching TV (most operators here have a service that allows you to watch a handful of channels on the phone). However, for the features related to calling ohters (video calls, for example) the ohter person also needs a 3G phone.
RE: 3G by Hank on 09-22-2006 at 04:38 AM
i just got the Nokia N80 which is also 3G, ( what you should do is ask to read a 3G Manual on a Mobile which may help you understand how it works an its benefits )
Edit i myself looked at a i think its the K610i Sony Erricson phone , i didnt like it,
Wikipedia on 3G Mobile Phones
RE: 3G by rav0 on 09-22-2006 at 07:23 AM
3G doesn't work over GSM. It will work on a different protocol, for example UTMS or W-CDMA. However, most 3G phones also have GSM radios, and can work on GSM as well.
The faster internet is because the 3G protocols have been designed for it. To get internet over GSM, it would be through GPRS (not as fast) or over CSD (slow).
You can't use the 3G to use VOIP from your phone. Somebody may have made a VOIP application program for K800, using Bluetooth or perhaps even 3G fast internet.
There's no real use than the faster downloads, video calling, and having a phone that has 3G printed on it, is bulkier, and runs shorter amounts of time between charges.
RE: 3G by Dempsey on 09-22-2006 at 07:45 AM
quote:Thats the phone I got a month or two ago, its great, except its recently started to completley freeze for about a minute whenever I send a message, which is nice
Originally posted by HSV
i just got the Nokia N80
RE: 3G by Hank on 09-22-2006 at 08:49 AM
quote:im getting that to just by navigating to different areas on the phone , if it gets to bad i'll just take it to the Nokia Dealer in the Ciity , it may need a software update but it is a very nice phone, . im glad i got it an not the N70
Originally posted by Dempsey
Thats the phone I got a month or two ago, its great, except its recently started to completley freeze for about a minute whenever I send a message, which is nice
RE: 3G by Mike on 09-22-2006 at 10:15 AM
Also, if you don't want the 3G features, you can buy the Sony Ericsson K790 which has the same features as the K800, excluding the 3G features.
Also, you dont need to have a 3G subscription to use the mobile phone 
RE: 3G by Weyzza on 09-23-2006 at 07:19 AM
quote:That's what I was looking for.
Originally posted by Mike
you can buy the Sony Ericsson K790 which has the same features as the K800, excluding the 3G features.
But to my surprise the dealers didn't even know that model :(
Good news: I prolly get K800 for $165 (or less!)
or maybe N73 with $95 more.Bad news: I can't decide which one I should pick
RE: 3G by rav0 on 09-23-2006 at 08:39 AM
Sony Ericsson
RE: 3G by ShawnZ on 09-23-2006 at 02:03 PM
get one with Symbian
RE: 3G by Thor on 09-23-2006 at 03:33 PM
quote:I agree, Symbian systems really are great, I have a N-Gage (old one, sukcs, but the symbian makes it better
Originally posted by ShawnZ
get one with Symbian
).I must admit that 3G is something I don't have, but I really want it, so my choice would be a Nokia n-series.
RE: 3G by ipab on 09-23-2006 at 04:44 PM
What is symbian? 
(what is so great about it?)
I'm in the market too and I'm thinking about whether to get the Sony Ericsson W800i (GSM) or the Nokia 6265i (CDMA).
RE: 3G by Weyzza on 09-24-2006 at 05:54 AM
quote:Symbian is a mobile operating system used in most Nokia products.
Originally posted by ipab
What is symbian?
Wikipedia entry for Symbian.
quote:And how can phones with Symbian is better (or faster)?
Originally posted by ShawnZ
get one with Symbian
Is that because it has a scheduler and memory management?
RE: 3G by Harr1l on 09-24-2006 at 09:22 AM
Symbian phones allow user to install native apps (not java) like AgileMessenger which is very good instant messaging program. You can also install many other apps like screensavers, google maps and some games too (also N-Gage games will work).
The 3G thing is also something I have but is quite unstable and it works only in main cities here in Finland. I don't know if it's only here in Finland that sometimes in 3G areas calls won't come to phone but goes to answering machine. Usually downloads are from 10kB/s to 40kB/s. The main reason for this phone is that I have free 3G/GPRS so I can get Internet everywhere and use it with laptop.
Still if you even think that you would need 3G take it. Especially if you plan to keep that phone more than year.
RE: 3G by Mike on 09-24-2006 at 09:39 AM
quote:You can do all you mentioned above on the Java platform.
Originally posted by Harr1l
Symbian phones allow user to install native apps (not java) like AgileMessenger which is very good instant messaging program. You can also install many other apps like screensavers, google maps and some games too (also N-Gage games will work).
I have seen all of what you mentioned as a java app
Example:
mig33 - Instant Messenger
Ruza - Something like a screensaverp
J2meMap - Google map java application
Zelda Mobile - One of the many mobile java games
As you can see, many stuff are available for the java platform (especially if your phone has MIDP 2.0 which the K800 has, and every new phone in general).
You should get a symbian phone however, if you want more advanced features like PDF document reading.
If you decide to get a symbian phone, get a sony ericsson symbian phone
RE: 3G by Harr1l on 09-24-2006 at 09:45 AM
The point was that symbian apps can be more advanced and work faster than java apps. Although symbian itself on my 6630 is pretty slow in menus.
RE: 3G by Pyroteq on 09-24-2006 at 10:30 AM
I have an n80 with 3G and all i can see as an advantage is faster internet and video calling.