Now this is something which is very controversial. Animal testing is something that is harsh to the animals, but is one animal's life worth 1000's of others? Do you think animals should be tested on? Do you think the cruelty to these animals is OK because they are helping others? And finally, what are you views on animal rights groups, are they going too far and ruining peoples lives?

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More on this topic:
> Wikipedia on Animal Testing

Also please tell me your views on animal rights people, their methods, and do you think their cause is right. I'll tell you what I think ...

Well if I have to choose between testing on me (or any person for htat matter) or testing on an animal I would choose animals...
I don't care about animal right groups aslong as they don't break the law...
I would preffer that they would hurt those animals... but sometimes the cause is worth the sacrefice...

I personally, don't much like animal testing. I find it cruel, and I've always wondered why they do it, as wouldn't animals have different reactions to humans? I feel that the people who test animals should test these things on themselves and see how much they like it. Sure, one animals life is worth 1000's of humans lives, but can't you argue that isn't one humans life worth 1000's of others, too? Why are animals considered so different from humans, that it makes it right to test products on them and not on humans?

Animal rights people are okay, so long as they don't start getting right in your face and breaking the law.

Edit: After reading Nitro's post, I have to add, that if it is indeed a dog testing dog food, that isn't a problem, but with things like cosmetics, etc. which the animal isn't going to use, I find it cruel.

Using animals to test thing really depends on what it's gonna test.

If a dog is supposed to test a new type of dog food, erhhh... I don't see the problem.

If you're gonna use an animal to test chemicals, etc, then I really don't like it.

Animals has feelings, if you hit one, it will feel pain, if you are very kind to it, it will be happy. Animals are diffrent, but yet they have feelings. So do humans. I think that you should think about the animal instead of your dear new product that you want to test on it.

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Originally posted by Tasha
Animal rights people are okay, so long as they don't start getting right in your face and breaking the law.

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Originally posted by absorbation

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Originally posted by Tasha
Animal rights people are okay, so long as they don't start getting right in your face and breaking the law.

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They are known for death threats amongst scientists and often stealing animals and burning down farms. They are pretty much terrorists. I remember one case people building a new lab had to wear masks to conceal their face from these people, scared of what could happen to them or their family. These people were just builders.

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I don't agree with the testing of Botox concentrations on mice so that vain people can feel good about themselves for a few days.
http://www.hsus.org/animals_in_research/animal_te...animals/index.html

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Originally posted by absorbation
And finally, what are you views on animal rights groups

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There is a Penn & Teller for all my your views threads

I have mixed views. On one hand, it is cruel what they are doing to animals. However, on the other hand, how is testing chemicals on animals different to eating them?

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Originally posted by Tasha
Why are animals considered so different from humans, that it makes it right to test products on them and not on humans?

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It's not fair. The animals have no choice. That really fucking sucks. ;(

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Originally posted by FrozenDaggers
It's not fair. The animals have no choice. That really fucking sucks. ;(

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Its bad the animals have no choice and its cruel enough said.

its ok as long as they test on species of which there are too many (rats?) because it will only better for the planet, but they should start testing on people too because there are too many of them...

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Originally posted by saralk
I have mixed views. On one hand, it is cruel what they are doing to animals. However, on the other hand, how is testing chemicals on animals different to eating them?

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Originally posted by Weyzza
But how are going to test something whose effects towards life beings we really don't know?

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As saral does I have mixed views on this, I don't like the fact that they're using innocent animals for this, but at least the animals are actually serving a purpose for this world, if they weren't going to be tested on they wouldn't exist at all.

So yes I do believe that 1 animal is worth thousands and thousands of human beings being well, if it wasn't for animal testing then we wouldn't be as advanced in medicine as we are today.

Plus, most of the activists against animal testing are idiots, for instance when the mother of an animal tester was dug up and "taken hostage" until they stopped animal testing, now that's just disgusting, it's terrorism.

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Originally posted by traxor
As saral does I have mixed views on this, I don't like the fact that they're using innocent animals for this, but at least the animals are actually serving a purpose for this world, if they weren't going to be tested on they wouldn't exist at all.

So yes I do believe that 1 animal is worth thousands and thousands of human beings being well, if it wasn't for animal testing then we wouldn't be as advanced in medicine as we are today.

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what would u rather.. they are unable to find cures for desises, as you are unable to test it on humans... or test these on animals and then find new cures ect..

I love animals, but I don't have a problem with animal testing in general. Of course, I'm sure there are some types of testing that I would be opposed to.


Quote: Is one animal's life worth 1000's of others?

Yes.

Quote: Do you think animals should be tested on?

Sure, as long as there's some benefit to it. If it's for a worthless cause, then no.

Quote: Do you think the cruelty to these animals is OK because they are helping others?

Sure, in most cases.

Quote: And finally, what are your views on animal rights groups, are they going too far and ruining peoples lives?

If they fight for causes that I agree with, and remain ethical and lawful and peaceful and respectable, then it's all good.

But usually activist groups just annoy me with all their whining and protesting and disruptiveness. Sometimes I wonder why the hell they care so much, and wish they'd just STFU and forget about it.

Quote (Tasha): I feel that the people who test animals should test these things on themselves and see how much they like it.

Are you kidding? That makes no sense to me.

Quote (Tasha): Why are animals considered so different from humans, that it makes it right to test products on them and not on humans?

Humans control this world. We're at the top of the food chain. We're the most intelligent and resourceful. We have longer lifespans than most animals. We have rights protected by law. And as saralk said, using humans for such testing is unrealistic.

Many animals suffer and die horrible deaths in nature every day (predators, fighting, accidents, diseases, natural disasters, you get the idea) and there's nothing we can do to stop it. Life is rough for wild animals. Does it really matter if these animals are killed by humans instead, especially if they're purpose-bred?

Quote (Weyzza): Perhaps we can test it to people on the death row?

Hah. Modern death row inmates are executed in very humane ways, such as lethal injection. They don't stop having rights until they're dead... an execution can be called off at the last second.

As long as it isn't done inhumanely, then I'm not overly fussed with it. If we're willing to eat them, what's wrong with testing products on them? As harsh as it sounds, better a rat than us for testing products.

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Originally posted by Nitro
If a dog is supposed to test a new type of dog food, erhhh... I don't see the problem.

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Quote (Weyzza): Perhaps we can test it to people on the death row?

Hah. Modern death row inmates are executed in very humane ways, such as lethal injection. They don't stop having rights until they're dead... an execution can be called off at the last second.

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Animal testing, or animal research, refers to the use of non-human animals in experiments.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Animal_testing

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Originally posted by s7a5
this is just funny

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Originally posted by saralk
I have mixed views. On one hand, it is cruel what they are doing to animals. However, on the other hand, how is testing chemicals on animals different to eating them?

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