is there a plugin that can notify you when someone closes the convo?? i remember this feature was available if you downloaded stuffplugz.. but is there a script out now for plus live?

There is nothing avaliable at the moment but I remember Live Notifer was going to have this but I've seen nothing to say that it has been done.

A close notifier is very unstable and cannot really be done... sorry about that

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Originally posted by NanaFreak
A close notifier is very unstable and cannot really be done... sorry about that

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Originally posted by MattyRid
not necessarily unstable...a better work is unreliable. As true as that is, the developer was looking into adding the closed notifer to it, but the status of that, who knows?!?!

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not necessarily unstable...a better work is unreliable. As true as that is, the developer was looking into adding the closed notifer to it, but the status of that, who knows?!?!

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well i dont think he would do that because not even stuff plug 3 is going to do it... and also why does everybody want a close notifier???

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First of all, it's impossible to notify when a user closes a conversation, due to the fact that Windows Live Mesenger does not send anything when a coversation is closed, only ends the session when the user does not send anything for a certain time (a time-out).
Also this means when a conversation is opened the previous session has to be ended in order to let Live Notifier notify you. So basicly there's not a big chance you will be notified when a coonversation is started or ended. That's what we call "unstable".

GILLY MESSENGER NOTIFIES of window closing it worked for me before but now i get some stupid dll missing error..

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Originally posted by xsouldeath
GILLY MESSENGER NOTIFIES of window closing it worked for me before but now i get some stupid dll missing error..

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well you should really try gilly messeger then it seemed to detect closing window.. it said so.. anyways
i shall let you know with a screenshot of proof once the darned thing decides to work

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screenshot, no screenshot as I said same principle applies full stop end of story case closed...or do you still have trouble understanding what has already be said hundreds upon hundreds of times?

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well you should really try gilly messeger then it seemed to detect closing window.. it said so.. anyways
i shall let you know with a screenshot of proof once the darned thing decides to work

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so you mean by session detect if a contact went offline ?

the difference between a session and when a contact ACTUALLY goes offline.

When a session is open or closed it is due to the when someone wither click on your display picture, contact card etc. these then trigger either a session open when clicked or a close session when a time-out has occurred. And is a different set of packets sent to the server.

When somebody ACTUALLY goes offline and moves to the offline section of your contact list (assuming it's sorted by status), that also sends a different packet to the server causing one to go offline.

As you can see, these are no way similar and due to how the protocol work, quite frankly it is impossible to detect an open/close notifier. Now do you understand my as simple as possible explanation or does the infamous CookieRevised come in here and set things straight like he usually does on this subject?

something called Mercury ...an msn messenger seems to notify of window open and closes however it also notifies of people who like arent even lonline or wahtever which is kinda whack but ya..
Gilly messenger once accurately did the same thing
but now i get a COMCTL error

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something called Mercury ...an msn messenger seems to notify of window open and closes however it also notifies of people who like arent even lonline or wahtever which is kinda whack but ya..
Gilly messenger once accurately did the same thing
but now i get a COMCTL error

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fair enough im one of those believers of things that are always possible.. you see a 25(around this) year old security network professional told me that cheating in this online game was extremely unlikely if not impossible. but packet editing proved this individual wrong...

similarly, ... people all over looked for making trojan horses and such undetectable... and certainly this would only possible to the "pros" ... and yet a method was discovered which could make any executable file into a different format and whether Mcaffe, Kasperky,Norton ... what not..  even your Avg or adaware ...would not detect it ...

anyways not to argue just saying... there was also something called TweakMsgr which messages them with "dont close the window on me" I shall look into if that still works...
and hence prove to myself whether its possible or not..

I am aware of WLM Messenger Plus! scripting as well as packet editing ... i shall find this out anyways..

lol wow my windows vista is going super fast thanks to this speed utility im liking this already...

Well it would be possible by using a devious 3rd party application (such as a trojan) but that is an invasion of privacy due to the many of other possible things you can also acquire.  I should rephrase what I said before, it is impossible to get the closing of a window through the WLM protocol (and even MSN 7.5 I think) as there is no reliability with many many factors giving you many instances where it says a session is closed when the chat window is still open.  The only way to accurately do this is by having something running on their computer that reports back to you with information about them opening/closing windows with you (it could be done through a script but it is an invasion of privacy to do so and so you will find it hard for someone to do so around here).

Again I'm sorry for my rant, I just get frustrated some times when people don't listen.  I hope I have given you enough information to understand that it just will not work, I'm sure that their are other people on this forum that can go into more detail for you if you like but the main gist of it will be exactly the same.

well heres some proof the gillys features

i tried a similar mercury utility and its notificaiton isnt as great

gilly doesnt work on vista not sure why I need a way to moinotr the installed .ocx and .dll from the setup file but ya..