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COntacts cannot chat with me by mcpink on 01-20-2007 at 08:41 PM

One of my friends told me that everytime he tried to talk to me it said that it could not reach its destination, we are only able to chat with each other if I come and talk to him first. It does that with all my contacts. I have the new windows messenger plus live. Thanks for your help


RE: COntacts cannot chat with me by Zazie rx on 01-20-2007 at 09:31 PM

having this exact same problem with Windows Live messenger 8.0, tried using trillan but still wont let messages through unless i start talking to the person first.


RE: COntacts cannot chat with me by MattyRid on 01-20-2007 at 09:39 PM

There have been server problems over the last few days, and for all we know the problem is still being sorted out by Microsoft.

However, if the problem has been happening for a while, check if the same still happens with Windows Live Messenger 8.1 from http://ideas.live.com


RE: COntacts cannot chat with me by Zazie rx on 01-21-2007 at 08:16 PM

Thanks for the info, its only been in the last few days.


RE: COntacts cannot chat with me by lutonsteve2 on 01-22-2007 at 10:26 PM

This was the case for me with the very old and outdated Windows Messenger.

I think a re-installing process should clear it mate.


RE: RE: COntacts cannot chat with me by MattyRid on 01-22-2007 at 11:02 PM

quote:
Originally posted by lutonsteve2
This was the case for me with the very old and outdated Windows Messenger.

I think a re-installing process should clear it mate.


How is that going to help when they are already on Windows Live Messenger?!?!?!?!

Obviously you didn't read the problems and actually saw the thread in Testing and trashing (which has been trashed) when there was worldwide problem with the servers and it even started happening on MSN Messenger as well, to which the problem is solved.
RE: COntacts cannot chat with me by lrodrigues on 01-22-2007 at 11:59 PM

The problem has been solved? Don't think so!!! The problem is very serious and it seems that is giving a hard time to people at microsoft to solve it! No mater what messenger version you use the problem is allways the same... NOBODY CAN START A CHAT WITH ME. ONLY I CAN START A CHAT WITH MY CONTACTS. IF SOMEBODY TRYES TO START A CHAT WITH ME IT RECEIVES THE FOLLOWING MESSAGE: "THE MESSAGE COULD NOT BE DELIVERED TO ALL RECEPIENTS". If I change to another messenger account everything works fine! But my usual account is crazy! I have tested several  messenger clients, Windows XP versions off Messenger and even Windows Mobile versions and the symptoms are the  same! THE PROBLEM IS, FOR SURE, ON MESSENGER SERVERS AND IT'S ONLY AFFECTING SOME MESSENGER ACCOUNTS.


RE: COntacts cannot chat with me by MattyRid on 01-23-2007 at 12:14 AM

maybe your contacts are still suffering the aftermath of it all, which can happen. Also, you say you have checked with every version of Messenger. Does this include the 8.1 BETA and Windows Messenger?


RE: COntacts cannot chat with me by lrodrigues on 01-23-2007 at 12:26 AM

Tested Windows Live Messenger with my usual account ----NOBODY CAN CHAT WITH ME.
Tested Windows Mobile Messenger with my usual account ----NOBODY CAN CHAT WITH ME
Tested Windows Messenger old versions that come with Windows XP with my usual account ----NOBODY CAN CHAT WITH ME

If I change to another account everything works fine with any messenger version.

Virus is out of the question because I have also tested on a recently installed Windows XP machines.

The account is rodrigues_isel@hotmail.com


RE: COntacts cannot chat with me by MattyRid on 01-23-2007 at 12:29 AM

but why is it your concern that they can't start a conversation with you??

That's their problem and they choose whether or not to fix it. If you can start a chat and talk to them then you have no problems.


RE: COntacts cannot chat with me by lrodrigues on 01-23-2007 at 12:40 AM

Oh my god... This is being really dificult to explain... Supose that you have my contact on your account. And supose that you want to start to chat with me. You click on my name, u start typing some stuff like "Hello...", and when you press ENTER or SEND you receive the following message "THE MESSAGE COULD NOT BE DELIVERED TO THE RECIPIENT" Peoply try to chat with me and they can't! This is my concern! BIG MESSENGER SERVER BUG, THAT'S WHAT I CALL IT!


RE: COntacts cannot chat with me by MattyRid on 01-23-2007 at 12:42 AM

OK firstly can you calm down...and secondly it is none of your concern, if it happens at your contacts end then it's your contacts that should be trying to fix it not you. If you can start a chat and talk to them then it is NOT the servers (well for you anyway but for them then it's another issue).


RE: COntacts cannot chat with me by lrodrigues on 01-23-2007 at 12:50 AM

Well... Then let's think a litle bit about this question....
You have a messenger account that is working fine rigth? I'll bet with you that if you try to start a chat with me the that u will receive an error message.


RE: COntacts cannot chat with me by MattyRid on 01-23-2007 at 12:51 AM

so then it's my problem to fix the problem...not your problem. It's been the same thing I have been telling you


RE: COntacts cannot chat with me by lrodrigues on 01-23-2007 at 12:58 AM

So all the world, all my friends chat with each other with no problems but none of them can start a chat with me and you still think it's their  problem?


RE: COntacts cannot chat with me by MattyRid on 01-23-2007 at 01:00 AM

of course it is their problem.

Do you have any of the problems you describe? No.

Do they have any of the problems you describe? Yes

Do I have to make it any clearer that it isn't your problem?


RE: COntacts cannot chat with me by lrodrigues on 01-23-2007 at 01:01 AM

I give up....


RE: COntacts cannot chat with me by Zazie rx on 01-23-2007 at 12:51 PM

I have tested this with trillian as well, so it has nothing to do with my msn client. Its the servers... wish they would fix it.


RE: COntacts cannot chat with me by illusionbg on 01-23-2007 at 02:01 PM

I have the same issue, nobody can start chat with me. It's from 5 days already I create a new account and it's working fine.


RE: COntacts cannot chat with me by lrodrigues on 01-23-2007 at 08:26 PM

Same problem here! I am from Portugal, and so far the only Portuguese i know with this problem.
No matter what we do, the problem is allways the same and it's, for sure, related to our messenger accounts.
It seems that this problem, for what i have been exploring on blogs and foruns related to messenger, is reaching a few, very unlucky people, us :@!
It also seems that the majority of the bloggers and forum members are convinced that the problem is related with client problems and i am really loosing my patient with these people that the only advice that they can give us is to upgrade to the new Windows Live Messenger Beta 8.1.
A really strong bug is f...ing our accounts and my opinion is this:
Probably there are several servers that deal with 50 milion of messenger accounts! What servers do? Well, probably when you log in to messenger servers (log in to messenger) they give you your contact list to your client. These servers probably associate each account to the IP adresses of the clients that are online, so, when you click on a contact to chat, your client itinitiates a session with the IP and port that the messenger server gave you (you will never see the IP, only the contact name, unless you install and tun a "Network Protocol Analyser"), all data can be captured "off the wire" from a live network connection!

Now, our problem...
We have our accounts on one of the servers so, i can bet with you that our server is the same and it has a huge BUG. When some one tryes to chat with us get the error message and can't reach us (IP is not granted by the server???)
One of the methods to see if this is really the case is to run a "protocol analyser" on a machine running a "good" messenger account and try to contact with a "f...ed" messenger account... If the IP address of the "f...ed" account does no appear on the Protocol Analyser of the computer runing the "good account" it means that my theory is correct!
Does any one have time to try this!?
A am full of work to do and don't have time to test this...
Ethereal is a good network protocol analyser!
www.ethereal.com

Best Regards from Portugal!


RE: COntacts cannot chat with me by illusionbg on 01-26-2007 at 07:18 AM

From yesterday the problem with my account has been fixed at last near one week with this problem.


RE: COntacts cannot chat with me by mcpink on 01-26-2007 at 03:18 PM

same here after a week the problem just left by itself