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how many gigs is this? by TheMusicPirate on 02-26-2007 at 01:23 AM
4190.5
i know it isnt 4 gigs. it must be closer to 419gigs right?
RE: how many gigs is this? by Chrono on 02-26-2007 at 01:24 AM
4190.5 what? ¨
RE: RE: how many gigs is this? by TheMusicPirate on 02-26-2007 at 01:27 AM
quote:
Originally posted by Chrono
4190.5 what? ¨
huh?
what do you mean?
RE: how many gigs is this? by Rolando on 02-26-2007 at 01:27 AM
quote:
Originally posted by TheMusicPirate
huh?
what do you mean?
Well, gb, .. ? what format
RE: RE: how many gigs is this? by TheMusicPirate on 02-26-2007 at 01:28 AM
quote:
Originally posted by q25
quote:
Originally posted by TheMusicPirate
huh?
what do you mean?
Well, gb, .. ? what format
huh? i just wanna know how many GB it is. so that i know how big of a harddrive to go and buy
RE: how many gigs is this? by Supersonicdarky on 02-26-2007 at 01:32 AM
4190.5 mbs - 4.09228516 gbs
or is that not what you wanted?
RE: how many gigs is this? by YourNeibour on 02-26-2007 at 01:59 AM
4 gigs
RE: how many gigs is this? by Voldemort on 02-26-2007 at 02:04 AM
quote:
Originally posted by the thread dude
i know it isnt 4 gigs
RE: RE: RE: how many gigs is this? by segosa on 02-26-2007 at 02:05 AM
quote:
Originally posted by TheMusicPirate
quote:
Originally posted by q25
quote:
Originally posted by TheMusicPirate
huh?
what do you mean?
Well, gb, .. ? what format
huh? i just wanna know how many GB it is. so that i know how big of a harddrive to go and buy
here's a similar task: convert 100 to dollars.
or maybe you can't do it because you have no clue what currency 100 is in?
RE: how many gigs is this? by xJ + on 02-26-2007 at 02:35 AM
quote:wait a sec.. Is that in MB or KB or B?
Originally posted by TheMusicPirate
4190.5
If it's in MB, this is your answer.
quote:
Originally posted by Supersonicdarky
4190.5 mbs - 4.09228516 gbs
In the future please clearly state its units.
RE: how many gigs is this? by NiteMare on 02-26-2007 at 04:07 AM
1024 B = 1 KB
1024 KB = 1 MB
1024 MB = 1 GB
1024 GB = 1 TB
RE: how many gigs is this? by scott2010_h on 02-26-2007 at 04:42 AM
if 4190.5 bits = 4.878384e-007 GB
If 4190.5 bytes = 3.902707e-006 GB
If 4190.5 Kilobytes = 0.003996372 GB
If 4190.5 Megabytes = 4.092285 GB
If 4190.5 Terabytes = 4291072 GB (that would be hell of alot)
RE: how many gigs is this? by foaly on 02-26-2007 at 12:45 PM
quote:
Originally posted by Supersonicdarky
4190.5 mbs - 4.09228516 gbs
quote:
Originally posted by NiteMare
1024 B = 1 KB
1024 KB = 1 MB
1024 MB = 1 GB
1024 GB = 1 TB
quote:
Originally posted by scott2010_h
if 4190.5 bits = 4.878384e-007 GB
If 4190.5 bytes = 3.902707e-006 GB
If 4190.5 Kilobytes = 0.003996372 GB
If 4190.5 Megabytes = 4.092285 GB
If 4190.5 Terabytes = 4291072 GB (that would be hell of alot)
that is not true...
you should convert it by multiplying it with 1000 not with 1024...
And I know computers use the 1024 because of the binary thingy...
But that doesn't make the math correct...
RE: how many gigs is this? by Supersonicdarky on 02-26-2007 at 02:01 PM
err, it is true
you do multiply by 1024, just ask google
http://www.google.ca/search?q=1GB+to+MB
RE: how many gigs is this? by foaly on 02-26-2007 at 02:05 PM
quote:
Originally posted by Supersonicdarky
err, it is true
you do multiply by 1024, just ask google
http://www.google.ca/search?q=1GB+to+MB
yeah well that doesn't make it true...
1000 meter = 1 Kilometer
1000 Kilometer =1 Megameter
1000 Megameter = 1 Gigameter
That is the basic behind it and it is true for whatever meter is so also for bytes...
RE: how many gigs is this? by Supersonicdarky on 02-26-2007 at 02:11 PM
i still say its 1024
if google says its true, you cant deny it
RE: how many gigs is this? by Thor on 02-26-2007 at 02:28 PM
quote:The standard "fabricator" standard is 1 to 1000.
Originally posted by Supersonicdarky
i still say its 1024
if google says its true, you cant deny it
However, Windows uses 1 to 1024, for some reason...
RE: how many gigs is this? by Menthix on 02-26-2007 at 02:31 PM
quote:In the world of computers can refer to both 1000 and 1024. However, 1024 is more common and accepted. Filesizes and memory size are usually measured in the 1024 form.
Originally posted by foaly
That is the basic behind it and it is true for whatever meter is so also for bytes...
Strictly speaking foaly is right, but in the real word using 1000 instead of 1024 on file/memory size is not much accepted and causes a lot on confusion.
Also see:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kilobyte
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kibibyte
RE: RE: how many gigs is this? by Val on 02-26-2007 at 02:34 PM
quote:
Originally posted by Nitro
quote:The standard "fabricator" standard is 1 to 1000.
Originally posted by Supersonicdarky
i still say its 1024
if google says its true, you cant deny it
However,Windowscomputers uses1 to 1024, for some reason...
RE: how many gigs is this? by MeEtc on 02-26-2007 at 02:41 PM
because 2^10 = 1024
computers are all about powers of 2
RE: how many gigs is this? by Jesus on 02-26-2007 at 03:30 PM
I had this discussion recently about the size of MP3 players...
I bought a 4 GB, but my computer displays it as 3.73 GB
3.73 GB * 1024 = 3819.52 MB
3819.52 MB * 1024 = 3911188.48 KB
3911188.48 KB * 1024 = 4005057003.52 B
Now, when I look into my physics book, I see that G stands for 10^9.
So 4005057003,52 = 4 * 10^9 B, which is correct.
It's just a marketing trick to give you the impression you buy more than what you'll get in the end and the worst thing is: it's all correct, so you can't complain
Anyway, TheMusicPirate's case:
4190.5 MB * 1024 = 4291072 KB
4291072 KB * 1024 = 4394057728 B
which equals 4.4 * 10^9 B or 4.4 GB if your vendor applies the same marketing trick.
RE: how many gigs is this? by Joe on 02-26-2007 at 06:04 PM
It's Over 9000!
RE: how many gigs is this? by joey on 02-27-2007 at 10:35 AM
quote:thats because they need room for firmware and software i think, so you never get an mp3 player with exactly what it says its always slightly less.
Originally posted by Jesus
I had this discussion recently about the size of MP3 players...
I bought a 4 GB, but my computer displays it as 3.73 GB
RE: how many gigs is this? by Kenji on 02-27-2007 at 10:43 AM
quote:Nope, when thay say 4GB, They mean 4,000MB instead of 4,096. Like with my 320GB HDD, it only has 293GB, Because it is 320,000MB, instead of 327,680MB
Originally posted by ichooselife128
quote:thats because they need room for firmware and software i think, so you never get an mp3 player with exactly what it says its always slightly less.
Originally posted by Jesus
I had this discussion recently about the size of MP3 players...
I bought a 4 GB, but my computer displays it as 3.73 GB
RE: how many gigs is this? by NiteMare on 02-27-2007 at 10:44 AM
quote:thats true of most ly all hard drives i've seen
Originally posted by ichooselife128
thats because they need room for firmware and software i think, so you never get an mp3 player with exactly what it says its always slightly less.
ive got 3 hard drives and they are like this:
on the box :: actual
40GB :: 38.2GB
160GB :: 152GB
250GB :: 233GB
RE: how many gigs is this? by prashker on 02-27-2007 at 12:36 PM
quote:
Originally posted by atown44
It's Over 9000!
Dragon Ball Z
RE: RE: how many gigs is this? by Jesus on 02-27-2007 at 01:56 PM
quote:
Originally posted by ichooselife128
quote:thats because they need room for firmware and software i think, so you never get an mp3 player with exactly what it says its always slightly less.
Originally posted by Jesus
I had this discussion recently about the size of MP3 players...
I bought a 4 GB, but my computer displays it as 3.73 GB
nope, it's with the firmware and drivers included. It works like a USB harddisk and I can browse the entire player, including all system files on it. Aside from that, HDDs also show a smaller size in a pc while eg a 250GB HDD won't need 17 GB for just firmware...
It's just that some manufacturers use the "actual" Gigabyte, which is 10^9 bytes, in their description, and computers use the "digital" Gigabyte, which is a power of 2 as MeEtc earlier mentioned. In this case (2^10)^3 bytes (or 2^30 bytes if you like).
Also, some manufacturers use something in between, like 10^6 KB = 1 GB, as I will show you below.
quote:Almost there... when they (my MP3 player manufacturer) say 4GB they mean 4,000,000,000 bytes or 4 * 10^9 bytes as I said a few times before...
Originally posted by Dazmo
Nope, when thay say 4GB, They mean 4,000MB instead of 4,096.
Ofcourse this depends on the manufacturer.
quote:38.2 GB * 1024 = 39116.8 MB
Originally posted by NiteMare
on the box :: actual
40GB :: 38.2GB
160GB :: 152GB
250GB :: 233GB
39116,8 MB * 1024 = 40055603.2 KB
that's actually 40 * 10^6 KB, so your manufacturer used 10^6 KB = 1 GB
152 GB * 1024 = 155648 MB
155648 MB * 1024 = 159383552 KB
which equals 159 * 10^6 KB
again, the manufacturer is using 10^6 KB = 1 GB. The slight difference (159.3 GB instead of 160 GB) might be because of some damaged sectors (or because you've been ripped off
)233 GB * 1024 = 238592 MB
238592 MB * 1024 = 244318208 KB
250181844992 KB * 1024 = 250181844992 B
or 250 * 10^9 B
with this drive, they used 10^9 B = 1 GB again.
Do the first 2 happen to be from the same manufacturer/brand?
one last example: one of my own HDDs:
it should be 80 GB, but it shows up as 76.3 GB
76.3 GB * 1024 = 78131.2 MB
78131.2 MB * 1024 = 80006348.8 KB
or 80 * 10^6 KB
again, 10^6 KB = 1 GB
so as I see it now, it depends on the manufacturer and the calculation they apply. There seems to be no real standard for what you can call a Gigabyte, it's always somewhere in between.
edit: whoa, it became quite a story
even more edit: 250th post yay
