Come on, some people must watch it...

what do you fink about the face's secret?

probably due to the fact he cant make himself new again, only allowed 13 or something aint he?

I watched it Lol. It didnt make sense cause the doctor said hes the last of his kind but the face said hes not

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I watched it Lol. It didnt make sense cause the doctor said hes the last of his kind but the face said hes not

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i keep missing it gotta 'obtain them' now

Back in the "old" series, one of the docters Companions was, infact, a fellow time lord. You may also find the information on http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Time_War_%28Doctor_Who%29 interesting...

Well Face of Bo(sp?) is older - well he was made out to be anyway. And i truly wouldn't be surprised if there was one or more timelords left. It's like the daleks thing, they keep coming, even the last one to die was 'teh last of it's kind'

Also, that episode kinda sucked, I mean the crab-like things didn't really cause much trouble and there wasn't much action. I hope the next one is more exciting.

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It's like the daleks thing, they keep coming, even the last one to die was 'teh last of it's kind'

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fatfreechinesetakeaway says (21:23):
everyone reckons the other time lord is the master
./James/. says (21:24):
they do? the master of what?
the master lord
fatfreechinesetakeaway says (21:24):
he's like. the nemesis of dr who
./James/. says (21:24):
oh :x
fatfreechinesetakeaway says (21:24):
biggest enemy from the old series
./James/. says (21:24):
never sen old series
well, never watched a whole series or anything
fatfreechinesetakeaway says (21:24):
e neither
but it seems a bit of a cop out
fatfreechinesetakeaway says (21:25):
he's been killed about 80 times
./James/. says (21:25):
=/ psch
that's like the dalek thing, .."shit anyone got anyideas for next episode?" - "err, daleks?" - "mehk"

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David tennant just said "The face of bo (sp?) is correct but the doctor isn't completely wrong either... The truth lies inbetween."

So very confused

doctor who rocks

thats all i can say

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bo

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doubt it,
maybe there's somone out there

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David tennant just said "The face of bo (sp?) is correct but the doctor isn't completely wrong either... The truth lies inbetween."

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nathan > vimto

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Maybe the last of his kind is a dalek...

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I don't know....I mean, I'm very tempted to think that there is a connection between what was said/happened at the end of Torchwood series one and what we've just seen in this episode (with the Face of Boe) but maybe I'm thinking too much about this


This could be interesting given that this is David Tennant last series as the Doctor. David's going out on a high!

Oh and Doctor Who without the Daleks or the Cybermen just isn't Doctor Who (I swear the Daleks have be brought back to life more times than Optimus Prime )

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This could be interesting given that this is David Tennant last series as the Doctor. David's going out on a high!

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It's been known since the end of the last series that this would be his last outing as the Doctor. It's a shame because I think he's been really good but I guess there's the fear of being stereotyped to that sort of role (even though he's had the roles of Cassanova and then the one of drama about a guy with head injury). There was a bit in one of the weekend papers about i. I'll see if I can find it

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This could be interesting given that this is David Tennant last series as the Doctor. David's going out on a high!

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What? where did you hear that?

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The rumours have started. According to what was printed in the Scottish Daily Mail on Friday:

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The BBC has commissioned a fourth series, but Tennant has so far refused to deny claims that he is quitting, insisting that he is 'non-committal' about his plans.
      He joked recently, "From the moment I accepted this job, everyone said "When are you leaving?" A Boy could get a complex.

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doctor who.. who?

Ok just seen it,

maybe he is the last of his kind (gender) and the other timelord is a female

nah, timelord

In theory I think that it has something to do with Captain Jack Harkness. But can't say too much about that because as far as I am aware, Torchwood hasn't been shown in the US yet

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Ok just seen it,

maybe he is the last of his kind (gender) and the other timelord is a female

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The Time Lords are a fictional race of humanoids, originating on the planet Gallifrey, seen in the British science fiction television series Doctor Who. The Doctor himself is a Time Lord. The female members of this group, like Romana, are sometimes called Time Ladies. They are so called because they have the technology to effect time travel, to a degree more advanced than any other civilisation. Time Lord time machines are known as TARDISes.

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nah, timelord

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wtf is Doctor Who ?

OMG gtfo

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wtf is Doctor Who ?

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I'm just thinking, why are we saying not the last of his kind....what was said is you are not alone. That doesn't specifically mean that he isn't the last of his kind. He could be and "not alone" is something else....God three episodes in and we're already confused lol

[offtopic]

By the way, does anyone know when it'll start airing in Australia?

* ryxdp is very annoyed because maybe a few episodes were missed.

[/offtopic]

Captain Jack

It would be interesting if he came back into doctor who again.

And vazza is right, what if it doesn't necessarily mean last of his kind, we're jumping the gun a bit

Blah we'll have to wait and see I guess =(


Oh, and wouldn't it be 'lordess' not 'lady'?
And there must be females in the timelord race, otherwise how would they reproduce?

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It would be interesting if he came back into doctor who again.

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He does...

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I half expected that considering the Doctor drops in on the last episode of Torchwood (although it did take me the whole series to figure out the connection between things in Torchwood)...so that would mean if it doesn't air in the UK till june....it must be one of the episodes near the end....curious....

Ryxpia: Given that this series has just started showing in the UK (three weeks in) I would guess it could be a while.

A little off topic, but meh.


Niiiiccceee

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Maybe the last of his kind is a dalek...

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Maybe the last of his kind is a dalek...

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Maybe you were right then?

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I heard the guy from life on mars was going to be the next doctor?

hmmm think i might start watching it now

* Vazza just waits patiently for the episode with Captain Jack Harkness (yes I know he's gay but that doesn't mean I can't him.

that dalek human thing is pretty pants looking ...

About the re-generation thing, he's not doing too good these days is he, something like 400 years old and lost last 2 lives pretty quickly

Yeah I hate the '1 regeneration per series' thing

Damn actors should stay longer

The 'You are not alone' thing isn't going to be answered until the end of the series. It was the same with Bad Wolf in the first series

Well what don't undertand is why can't the doctor just time travel before the time war and prevent it or something.

It'll be interesting to see what the darlek humans (humleks? ) "powers" are.. seeing as they're not in any metal case with a immense lazer gun type thing

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It'll be interesting to see what the darlek humans (humleks? ) "powers" are.. seeing as they're not in any metal case with a immense lazer gun type thing

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http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/f/f5/The...Chronicles-004.jpg
That comicstrip suggests that the daleks were some sort of human (or human shapped, atleast)..

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Well what don't undertand is why can't the doctor just time travel before the time war and prevent it or something.

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awww man they had to drag it on again didn't they

Just one more dalek ..... once again.....

Just bring back Billie Piper lol she'd either turn into a big golden bitch and erase it from time (once again ) or convince it to open it's shell and self destruct

I think it's a shame that they killed the hybrid one, i could imagine him and the doctor getting drunk in some futuristic bar somewhere then like a big photo montage of them on holiday or something

The new one's pretty good though, to be fair. Awesome series though

I don't like the new girl I was just saying Rose could do a better job of dalek ass whopping

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I don't like the new girl I was just saying Rose could do a better job of dalek ass whopping

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Give her time.Yes we'd all like her to be bought back into it, and I have to say if we're bring the daleks and Jack back into it, please bring her back, but she's out of the picture (but not from the Doctor's thoughts). It's the same when Christopher Eccelson(sp?) gave it up and David Tennant () became the doctor. No one was sure at him being it but he's done damn well....

Besides....didn't they bring what's her face back from the dead? Or was that her sister that was in the Doomsday episode?

in torchwood they keep killing suzie

I was all for david tennant as dr. who (could tell he was going to be involved as he's worked in loads of Russel T Davies stuff)

but yeah daleks..... again....

the new girl is a bit too smarmy for me at the moment and just keeps going about how she isn't going out with him to everyone

Was it just me or did it take her ages to realise that she needed to use the physic paper to get into the empire state building thingo? =p

and was it me or does time seem to speed up and go slow to suit them

• Darlek-Sek said there was 12 minutes till the blast thing
• Doctor got to work,
• Darleks were told "to go to rehaaaabb but they said NOOOO NOOOOO NOOOO"
• Martha and the gang travelled to the top floor of the building in a lift
• Doctor escapes into lift with pig boy also to top floor
• Doctor meets with gang climbs onto spire to dismantle the bits
• Gang make a lightning rod extension to the lift
• Doctor fails and decides to take some lightning YeHAW
• Piggy boys arrive on top floor and get zapped


now is it just me or is it highly unlikely you can travel from the basement to the spire in under 12 minutes?

let alone twice was the same shaft so had to go all the way down to piggy boys then all the way back up again.

....Timelord

In response to that: it's doctor who....anything can happen! Mind you, the creature from the next episode does look like a rip off from Lost in Space or The Mummy Returns

I thought the same Nile, at one point one dalek was like " only a couple of minutes until gamma strike"(or something) and then in the next scene the doctor was like "right, 10 minutes" or something

Next episode looks good though, the beast looked quite awesome, even if it is a rip

Yeah, i noticed that too!
"Only 30 secs till gamma strike"
10mins later doctor who is getting struck by it

Can we please stop nit picking the episode apart?

What else can we do

* Nathan runs

I always do it with games, tis funny

But if you pick away at it too much then it runs it and we're only what....4 episosdes in?

What, nit picking it is great, I do it in films all the time

Anyone know how many episodes are in this series?

How cool is the doctor With his red converse and what not!

[/InTheHoodSpeech]

By the way, the time went 11 minutes to 6 minutes to 4 minutes to 40 wells or whatever the daleks said
(watching the repeat on BBC 3)

The daleks said "4 minutes" and it was 4 minutes They said it at 20:26 and it happened at 20:30

* Vimto is also watching the repeat

but then they started counting down they said gamma strike in 40 wells (or something)

* Vazza waits for this series shooting scripts to come out

i have it in .mkv so i could watch whenever but it still seemed stupid

I've got the "key word" if you will from this series (like torchwood, bad wolf etc..)

It is in white at the end of this sentence. don't look if you don't want to. saxons

However, that is what i'm led to believe.. may not be true, but if you look over the episodes (the last one in particular) you will see..

I cba to look, show me your 'evidence'

Tennant was on parkinson... he said something like 'ah yes, that, its a little bit more complicated than there being just another timelord'

(something along those lines can't remember it properly)

people have speculated that Mister Saxon is The Master (anagram is Master No Six, being the 6th actor to play the master)

The Master is The Doctor's long time rival timelord similar to the Rani.

Could be

Only time will tell ;[

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Only time will tell ;[

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Only time will tell ;[

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John Barrowman was on johnathon ross...

they showed a clip of dr who, captain jack clinging to the tardis as it did the time travel thing... i thought it was going to be in tonights epsiode.... was thoroughly disappointed

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i thought it was going to be in tonights epsiode.... was thoroughly disappointed

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Captain Jack is in the last three episodes of this series and the Master (in the form of Harold Saxon and played by John Simm) is in the last two (and the character in the third last episode has something to so with the Master as well I think) [unless the Master is not coming back at all and it is the "Meddling Monk" instead].

The Master is a time lord (hence the Doctor not being the last of his kind) but they have always been enemies. The Master has never died or been killed so could easily come back. It has been shown in episodes already this series that Mr Saxon knows who the Doctor is and doesn't like him. Also, some of the things that happened in The Lazarus Experiment episode are apparently relevant to the last two episodes of this series.

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The clip from Jonathan Ross can be seen on Youtube here for  anyone who missed it.

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(Wikipedia is a quite a good cure for boredom )

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That's been removed but afaik it's the same as the one here. Is it just me or in the clip does the Doctor see Jack running towards the TARDIS but leave anyway?

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They need to put a restaurant there

You Are Not Alone. YANA another timelord, The master!

*drools* David Tennant & John Barrowman (and yes I know he's gay but still )

The series coming to an end already??? NO But still, they had to bring in an enemy. I mean, we've had daleks, the cybermen why not the master?

As for the episode, I just love the interaction between Jack and the Doctor.

BTW, don't suppose anyone knows the song that was playing at the end of last week's Doctor Who Confidential? I'd like to get my hands on it

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As for the episode, I just love the interaction between Jack and the Doctor.

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As for the episode, I just love the interaction between Jack and the Doctor.

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The bit where he was saying about "the watch being a spacehopper and tardis a sportscar" i found interesting, bet the doctor uses the watch to get his tardis back

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That was bad, really bad.

But the next episode's been ruined by Confidential because it showed clips of it at the end....nasty people

how does the doctor get out of this one!!!

whats the paradox machine for?

what are the orby things!! argh

D.I. Sam Tyler, YOU BASTARDS!

Life on Mars > *

Orby things? I'm guessing they could be Daleks. ;[

'Cause he was like "If I told you what they were, it'd break both your hearts"

Paradox machine creates gap into..another paradox?..where all the daleks were maybe?

Or it could be something else but meh

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'Cause he was like "If I told you what they were, it'd break both your hearts"

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'Cause he was like "If I told you what they were, it'd break both your hearts"

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Something from gallifrey? Could be something on that lines, would be interesting and maybe reveal more on the lost world.

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It might be answered next week! After all, why tell us everything this week and then no need to watch next week. Now to the nit picking:

1) Last week's episode had a continuity problem. (SPOILER IF NO ONE HAS SEEN TORCHWOOD)
Jack is seen running towards the Tardis at the start of the episode. HOWEVER, at the end of Torchwood when Jack is walking through the base, we hear the Tardis (and the paper blowing around signalling the arrival) landing IN Torchwood....I need to get out more

2) Why did that UNIT (glad to see that came back. Thought their theme  would be a lost treasure) ship Valliant look like Cloudbase from Captain Scarlet?

BTW, does anyone else have the feeling that this COULD end a little like the first series?

Kinda off topic:
The thing that interests me most, is that the Time war wasn't mentioned in the classic series (afaik). So, this could mean that the time war happened in between the two series?

classic series? you realises there loadsssssss of old series'

Or it could have been between the last series of the original (because really that's what the old ones is, the original) and the new one...I guess it's one of those gaps that fanfic writers and writers of the Doctor Who annual (stares lovingly at hers) and other Doctor Who related books can play on

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classic series? you realises there loadsssssss of old series'

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what are the orby things!! argh

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The masters really sick, kept opening the door to see that woman getting chopped to peices .
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I thought Russel was having an Ace Venture moment in the script (I assume you all know the  scene that I'm talking)

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I thought Russel was having an Ace Venture moment in the script (I assume you all know the  scene that I'm talking)

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[21:20] <Vazza> vaccination: Where jim carey standing at the door and slides in open and shut while going Ahhhhh.....continously to prove that no one could have heard the guy fall off the balcony if the door was shut

lol oh right, not to big on my ace ventura movies, saw them when i was about 8

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[21:20] <Vazza> vaccination: Where jim carey standing at the door and slides in open and shut while going Ahhhhh.....continously to prove that no one could have heard the guy fall off the balcony if the door was shut

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I obviously need to get out more

OH MY GOD

I CAN'T BELIEVE JACK IS THE FACE OF BOE (highlight it to read it)

WOW loved that, REALLY CLEVER

[highlightable again]

but he dies cause the face died

I loved the ending
With the titanic.

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I loved the ending
With the titanic.

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Hmmm....compared to other series finales....I feel that this was a pretty poor ending. I was expecting much, much more...COME ON RUSSEL GIVE US SOMETHING BETTER!!!

*sunk
Anyhow i thought the Dr Who's Tardis was indestructible 

well, what I want to know as well, didn't the doctor say that he had permentantly locked the co-ordinates of the tardis? So how could he go anywhere else except between now and the end of the universe?

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well, what I want to know as well, didn't the doctor say that he had permentantly locked the co-ordinates of the tardis? So how could he go anywhere else except between now and the end of the universe?

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I think that could be a good episode though

* Vazza finishes watching Doctor Who Confidential

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Hmmm....compared to other series finales....I feel that this was a pretty poor ending. I was expecting much, much more...COME ON RUSSEL GIVE US SOMETHING BETTER!!!

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fatfreechicken - Shrek 3 premiere was ace says (19:55):
ROFL!
the titanic hit the tardis not an iceberg (rofl)
vaccination says (20:16):
yeah
fatfreechicken - Shrek 3 premiere was ace says (20:16):
major plot hole in that ending though ;<
vaccination says (20:16):
poor Tardis though, got turned into a paradox machine and then hit by the Titanic
plot hole?
fatfreechicken - Shrek 3 premiere was ace says (20:16):
yeah
im pretty certain titanic didnt have a fog horn ;<
fatfreechicken - Shrek 3 premiere was ace says (20:17):

had a bell though
vaccination says (20:17):

fatfreechicken - Shrek 3 premiere was ace says (20:17):
least they got that right
vaccination says (20:18):
I'm still confused about the whole face of boe thing
like
fatfreechicken - Shrek 3 premiere was ace says (20:18):
but then it didnt have life rings that far forward so he would nevr have got one in his tardis from that
hmm
ill shut up now
i know too much about titanic
vaccination says (20:19):
face of boe wouldn't know about their being another timelord untill the doctor did
so, it'd be old news by then..?
fatfreechicken - Shrek 3 premiere was ace says (20:19):

fatfreechicken - Shrek 3 premiere was ace says (20:20):
i dont get where gollum came into it though sad:
but his ring was found at the end
vaccination says (20:20):
yeah wtf
vaccination says (20:21):
and what was with the whole making the doctor so old he practically became gollum
like, you can't get that old can you
fatfreechicken - Shrek 3 premiere was ace says (20:21):
he obviously can
and gollom did in the LOTR
vaccination says (20:21):
yeah good pint
point*

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well, what I want to know as well, didn't the doctor say that he had permentantly locked the co-ordinates of the tardis? So how could he go anywhere else except between now and the end of the universe?

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fatfreechinesetakeaway says (21:23):
everyone reckons the other time lord is the master
./James/. says (21:24):
they do? the master of what?
the master lord
fatfreechinesetakeaway says (21:24):
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I know they went back in time, but not far enough to unlock it.....Russel screwed up again!

meh laser screwdrivers.

I would've quite liked to have seen The Doctor visiting the master in a little cage every so often actually

how cheesy though was

'NOOO NOOO NOOO'
'I FORGIVE YOU'
'NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO'

I almost spat out my noodles laughing, was almost on a par with 'You shall not pass!' and Darth Vader's 'NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO'

still between now and xmas, we should have another series of torchwood to look forward too... yes?

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still between now and xmas, we should have another series of torchwood to look forward too... yes?

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Captain Jack = Face of bo Wow!

Writers these days.. so clever

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bloody hell, havn't any of you ever watched the old series?
there is one other timelord, he is called the master.
he is kinda evil nd wreaked evil in the old series

The master isn't gone Watching the last episode, you see a ring being picked up and the master laughing (sounds very like the final scenes of Flash Gordon really....) which means that one of the "future kind" has it

I'm just glad that UNIT got brought back in so that their theme could be used again Murray Gold was worried that since Torchwood was formed that they would disappear into TV oblivion and that we would only hear their theme once, but nice to see it brought back in now

And in other news, in the next series there will be TWO assistants! Martha will be coming back but is missing the first couple of episodes to allow the Doctor to introduce a new assistant


@aNILEator: well that's what I had read but whether or not it's true will have to be seen. I know that they had started showing the episodes on BBC2 not long after it had started on BBC3 but I don't think they were getting ratings so kept it on BBC3. I'm just awaiting the boxset

why does one of the future kind have it? and having the ring afaik doesn't make you a master time lord. also there is 'The Rani' who picked up the ring (the very last other (female) timelord?) so she'll be in xmas/2008 series

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and having the ring afaik doesn't make you a master time lord. also there is 'The Rani' who picked up the ring (the very last other (female) timelord

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bloody hell, havn't any of you ever watched the old series?
there is one other timelord, he is called the master.
he is kinda evil nd wreaked evil in the old series

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Well I was only hypothesising about it because the Doctor went back to the end of the universe to 'dispose' of the Master's body and we knew that the future kind were already there

And it would appear that Kylie's going to appear on the Christmas Special

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Alright, so where were was the body 'disposed' of?

The hand was confirmed to be that of The Rani,

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...in the 2007 series finale "Last of the Time Lords", the episode finishes with a female hand (body offscreen) with bright red fingernails - similar to Kate O'Mara's hands as the Rani - picking up The Master's ring. This hand is confirmed to be that of the Rani in the episodes commentry podcast....

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Alright, so where were was the body 'disposed' of?

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Meh, well, I interpret it as The End of The Universe, so each to their own

Okay so I'm running with a theory at the moment based on last night's (10/11/08) episode, The Doctor's Daughter

(THE BELOW SECTION MAY CONTAIN SPOILERS!!)


At the end of the episode The Doctor's Daughter, we see Jenny  brought back to life (I'm blaming the Terraforma) and then in a space shuttle saying a long the lines of she had the worlds to see and people to save...is there a possibility that this is who we 'saw' at the end of series 3 picking up the ring? Plus we keep hearing things that suggest our current doctor is either going to a) die or b) regenerate (which may fall on/after Christmas cause Tennant's currently filming/just finished filming the christmas special feat. the cybermen)

Anyone want to entertain this theory?

just in case:

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Like I said, it was just a theory and something that came to mind after seeing the episode (actually need to watch it again tonight to see Confidential and then watch it on Friday for the Commentary )