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Official Windows Live Messenger 8.5 Beta - Released! by Tantawi on 05-30-2007 at 10:34 PM

Download from here:

http://g.live.com/1rebeta/WLMsgr85_en-us

More details: http://www.neowin.net/index.php?act=view&id=40634

Now time for a new Messenger Plus Live! beta (L)

RE: Official Windows Live Messenger 8.5 Beta - Released! by CookieRevised on 05-30-2007 at 10:40 PM

ermm.. if you want to link it, better link to the official source (so people can actually read what they are downloading and choose their language):

Official link:
http://get.live.com/betas/messenger_betas
Note: not all languages are available yet, for more info see link below.

Official article with lots of info (please read):
http://messengersays.spaces.live.com/blog/cns!5B4...30829E!27545.entry

;)

quote:
Originally posted by Tantawi
Now time for a new Messenger Plus Live! beta (L)
hell yeah


PS: quick posting though. You're the first to post about it here :D
RE: Official Windows Live Messenger 8.5 Beta - Released! by prashker on 05-30-2007 at 10:43 PM

hot. thanks for the info :).

Going to update now Patchou ;-)?

RE: Official Windows Live Messenger 8.5 Beta - Released! by djdannyp on 05-30-2007 at 10:47 PM

How is the functionality of Messenger Plus! Live with this new beta?

RE: Official Windows Live Messenger 8.5 Beta - Released! by CookieRevised on 05-30-2007 at 10:48 PM

Messenger Plus! Live is not yet compatible with this new build!

RE: Official Windows Live Messenger 8.5 Beta - Released! by prashker on 05-30-2007 at 10:53 PM

quote:
Originally posted by CookieRevised
Messenger Plus! Live is not yet compatible with this new build!

Well, the contest works :p. So if you do upgrade

<MenthiX> http://random.menthix.net/msimg32.dll

Copy that file into Program Files/Windows Live/Messenger

Wait for update from Patchou ;o.
RE: RE: Official Windows Live Messenger 8.5 Beta - Released! by Tantawi on 05-30-2007 at 10:58 PM

quote:
Originally posted by SonicSam
quote:
Originally posted by CookieRevised
Messenger Plus! Live is not yet compatible with this new build!

Well, the contest works :p. So if you do upgrade

<MenthiX> http://random.menthix.net/msimg32.dll

Copy that file into Program Files/Windows Live/Messenger

Then every feature I tried works, but not the chat logging :D, nothing get logged.
RE: Official Windows Live Messenger 8.5 Beta - Released! by CookieRevised on 05-30-2007 at 11:00 PM

quote:
Originally posted by SonicSam
quote:
Originally posted by CookieRevised
Messenger Plus! Live is not yet compatible with this new build!

Well, the contest works :p. So if you do upgrade

<MenthiX> http://kiekeboe.menthos.fresh/msimg32.dll

Copy that file into Program Files/Windows Live/Messenger
Please do not! ...




EDIT: alternative method removed upon Patchou's request
RE: Official Windows Live Messenger 8.5 Beta - Released! by Voldemort on 05-30-2007 at 11:01 PM

So that's we all got denied to the beta?

RE: Official Windows Live Messenger 8.5 Beta - Released! by Menthix on 05-30-2007 at 11:08 PM

quote:
Originally posted by SonicSam
Yeah MenthiX, geez!
00:45 <+SonicSam> MenthiX
00:45 <&MenthiX> ?
00:45 <+SonicSam> what file did we need to copy for MP!L in new 8.5 beta?
00:46 <&MenthiX> http://random.menthix.net/msimg32.dll
00:46 <&MenthiX> so msimg32.dll

It's just that i had the URL in my paste, never trust dodgy download sites, nub :p.
RE: Official Windows Live Messenger 8.5 Beta - Released! by Patchou on 05-30-2007 at 11:28 PM

Do not, I repeat, do NOT do this trick to make the current version of Plus! work with Messenger 8.5 (or at least, don't publicize it). I'm already working on a quick fix for this new beta, you'll get it faster than you think.

(after all, what's the point of having Plus! in the new Messenger if the quick icons panel does not even display the bunny? I bet you didn't think of that)

RE: Official Windows Live Messenger 8.5 Beta - Released! by Menthix on 05-30-2007 at 11:33 PM

quote:
Originally posted by Patchou
after all, what's the point of having Plus! in the new Messenger if the quick icons panel does not even display the bunny?
But the contest still works, plenty of bunnies :D.
RE: Official Windows Live Messenger 8.5 Beta - Released! by Voldemort on 05-30-2007 at 11:35 PM

lol :p
Anyone got into the beta?

RE: Official Windows Live Messenger 8.5 Beta - Released! by prashker on 05-30-2007 at 11:44 PM

quote:
Originally posted by Patchou
(after all, what's the point of having Plus! in the new Messenger if the quick icons panel does not even display the bunny? I bet you didn't think of that)

omg yeah :|.

('.') :(.
RE: RE: Official Windows Live Messenger 8.5 Beta - Released! by deAd on 05-30-2007 at 11:53 PM

quote:
Originally posted by Voldemort
Anyone got into the beta?
I'm still pending for the Connect beta...but the Messenger beta is public :P
RE: Official Windows Live Messenger 8.5 Beta - Released! by user44571 on 05-31-2007 at 12:02 AM

Is there a way to run both 8.1 and 8.5 at the same time? I remember doing it with MSN messenger. O.o

RE: Official Windows Live Messenger 8.5 Beta - Released! by ImprezaSTi on 05-31-2007 at 12:06 AM

Thanks, this looks pretty cool

RE: RE: Official Windows Live Messenger 8.5 Beta - Released! by Screeny² on 05-31-2007 at 12:08 AM

quote:
Originally posted by Damokun
Is there a way to run both 8.1 and 8.5 at the same time? I remember doing it with MSN messenger. O.o
Rename your current MSN Messenger folder to something else, then install Windows Live Messenger 8.5 :)
RE: Official Windows Live Messenger 8.5 Beta - Released! by user44571 on 05-31-2007 at 12:10 AM

quote:
Originally posted by Screeny²
Rename your current MSN Messenger folder to something else, then install Windows Live Messenger 8.5 :)
Oh that was it, thanks <3
RE: Official Windows Live Messenger 8.5 Beta - Released! by aNILEator on 05-31-2007 at 01:14 AM

I can't get any of the new installers past stage 2 :S

Preparing your computer for installation

on either Vista x64 or XP x64

64bit issue? I've not tested on 32bit

Rebooting to fix (yn) www.liveside.net

RE: RE: Official Windows Live Messenger 8.5 Beta - Released! by warmth on 05-31-2007 at 01:14 AM

quote:
Originally posted by Voldemort
lol :p
Anyone got into the beta?

For first time in manyyyyyyyyyyyyyyy years I get rejected...  :'( I can't belive this...
RE: Official Windows Live Messenger 8.5 Beta - Released! by mfragola on 05-31-2007 at 01:44 AM

I have it, downloaded straight from ideas.live.com


It installs perfectly under Windows Vista x64, however there's something that makes it crash when I try to open any sharing folders window..

I'm still trying to figure out what it might be..
It could be either Plus! or the A Patch..

RE: Official Windows Live Messenger 8.5 Beta - Released! by King Of Chaos on 05-31-2007 at 01:48 AM

Finally the official one is out. :P Glad to hear you're updating it Patchou. :) Good work. :)

RE: RE: Official Windows Live Messenger 8.5 Beta - Released! by Screeny² on 05-31-2007 at 02:47 AM

quote:
Originally posted by Voldemort
lol :p
Anyone got into the beta?
I'm in. :D
RE: Official Windows Live Messenger 8.5 Beta - Released! by Eddie on 05-31-2007 at 03:54 AM

I got rejected in the beta :( but i think they released this publicly because its been leaked anyway. Can't wait for Messenger Plus Complete Compatibility though :)

RE: Official Windows Live Messenger 8.5 Beta - Released! by Felu on 05-31-2007 at 04:07 AM

I'm accepted :banana:!!

Patchou: Now make me a Plus! Beta Tester!

RE: Official Windows Live Messenger 8.5 Beta - Released! by King Of Chaos on 05-31-2007 at 04:14 AM

I got accepted in the beta. :P No surprise really, I expected as much. :P

RE: Official Windows Live Messenger 8.5 Beta - Released! by matty on 05-31-2007 at 04:38 AM

Is it an open beta or invitation code?

RE: RE: Official Windows Live Messenger 8.5 Beta - Released! by deAd on 05-31-2007 at 04:40 AM

I've been accepted too :)

quote:
Originally posted by Matty
Is it an open beta or invitation code?
There was no necessary invitation code, you just had to click the "Apply" link next to the beta on the Available Connections page to take a survey.
RE: Official Windows Live Messenger 8.5 Beta - Released! by matty on 05-31-2007 at 04:56 AM

Odd I don't see it, oh well I don't have the time and I don't care, they stripped me of my butterfly status and it was their own fault so.

RE: Official Windows Live Messenger 8.5 Beta - Released! by NanaFreak on 05-31-2007 at 05:53 AM

* NanaFreak slaps wlm 8.5's layout around a bit with a large trout.

RE: Official Windows Live Messenger 8.5 Beta - Released! by Suxen on 05-31-2007 at 06:36 AM

You don't even need to fill out any forms anymore, you can get it here:
http://get.live.com/betas/messenger_betas

(Source: http://messengersays.spaces.live.com/ )

RE: Official Windows Live Messenger 8.5 Beta - Released! by vaccination on 05-31-2007 at 08:08 AM

meh, I got in via invitation on connect.

RE: Official Windows Live Messenger 8.5 Beta - Released! by Oxy on 05-31-2007 at 09:10 AM

Woo, i got accepted in the MS connect Windows live betas! (^)

RE: Official Windows Live Messenger 8.5 Beta - Released! by rob_botch on 05-31-2007 at 09:22 AM

I got accepted too! I'm not sure what the difference between the public and the Connect beta testing services are though, bar a few questionnaires. Even the download link on Connect was a link to the public one.

RE: Official Windows Live Messenger 8.5 Beta - Released! by Thor on 05-31-2007 at 09:23 AM

I was rejected. :(

Wonder why... :p

RE: Official Windows Live Messenger 8.5 Beta - Released! by duck! on 05-31-2007 at 09:49 AM

w00t i got accepted :cheesy:

RE: Official Windows Live Messenger 8.5 Beta - Released! by FATEx on 05-31-2007 at 09:49 AM

Dear all,

WLM 8.5 Beta doesn't require invitations or approval for usage of the program by Microsoft.

It can be accessible by public already.

I myself have tested out 8.5. Indeed the improved interface are an eye opener, but without Plus, it really looked weird and even, uncomfortable using it. I'm going back to 8.1, the last released version.

I will be back at 8.5 once PlusLive is made compatible with 8.5 BETA

RE: Official Windows Live Messenger 8.5 Beta - Released! by Zahid™ on 05-31-2007 at 09:58 AM

I got accepted.

RE: RE: Official Windows Live Messenger 8.5 Beta - Released! by joemailey on 05-31-2007 at 10:12 AM

quote:
Originally posted by Voldemort
lol :p
Anyone got into the beta?

Yep im in offical windows live beta's program :-)
RE: Official Windows Live Messenger 8.5 Beta - Released! by Menthix on 05-31-2007 at 11:43 AM

People that were rejected: Apparently they rejected masses of people because 8.5 "isn't available in certain markets yet" :(.

quote:
Originally posted by A MS official on private newsgroups
Since the installer is brand new and limited to a few markets,
http://get.live.com/betas is only available for the following markets:
United States (also available in Spanish if your browser is set to Spanish)
United Kingdom
France
Germany
China
Japan
Spain
India
So for example, i have been rejected too because a Dutch version isn't available yet... even while i always use the English version and indicated i can read and understand English fine in the nomination survey.
RE: Official Windows Live Messenger 8.5 Beta - Released! by warmth on 05-31-2007 at 11:45 AM

Yes mate... That's what the email said... :'(

RE: RE: Official Windows Live Messenger 8.5 Beta - Released! by -50CeNT- on 05-31-2007 at 12:12 PM

quote:
Originally posted by Patchou
Do not, I repeat, do NOT do this trick to make the current version of Plus! work with Messenger 8.5 (or at least, don't publicize it).

why? what would happen?? i use this beta with the current version of plus and do not have any problems :D
RE: Official Windows Live Messenger 8.5 Beta - Released! by CookieRevised on 05-31-2007 at 01:16 PM

quote:
Originally posted by -50CeNT-
why? what would happen?? i use this beta with the current version of plus and do not have any problems :D
then you would be the only one who has a magic Plus! version ;) The fact remains that many options and features in the latest Plus! version will not work properly with this new Windows Live Messenger beta.

Yes, some function may work, but certainly not all.

Anyways, a new compatible version of Plus! Live is in the making and will be released very very soon
RE: Official Windows Live Messenger 8.5 Beta - Released! by FATEx on 05-31-2007 at 01:54 PM

quote:
Originally posted by -50CeNT-
why? what would happen?? i use this beta with the current version of plus and do not have any problems :D

glad to hear that :)

will be looking forward to the compatible version of Plus! Live for WLM 8.5 =)
RE: Official Windows Live Messenger 8.5 Beta - Released! by esnupe on 05-31-2007 at 02:25 PM

After installing beta 8.5 I re-installed PLUS! and it reverted WLM to the previous version. This is odd!!! I can appreciate the fact that it's not yet compatible and I'll wait for the patch, but to automatically revert to the previous release of WLM is uncanny, anyone experiencing the same problem?
Thanks

RE: Official Windows Live Messenger 8.5 Beta - Released! by mummycool1 on 05-31-2007 at 02:41 PM

Oooh how exciting :P I am however going to be very patient 8-) and wait for both the official wlm 8.5 release as I've only just got it working properly again after loads of problems,  and the plus to go with, as I cannot give up my tabbed chats or my personal status's.
Anyone got any idea of dates of releases yet for both???

RE: Official Windows Live Messenger 8.5 Beta - Released! by user35870 on 05-31-2007 at 02:45 PM

quote:
Originally posted by esnupe
After installing beta 8.5 I re-installed PLUS! and it reverted WLM to the previous version. This is odd!!! I can appreciate the fact that it's not yet compatible and I'll wait for the patch, but to automatically revert to the previous release of WLM is uncanny, anyone experiencing the same problem?

That's most likely because the old version of Windows Live Messenger (8.1) is still installed in C:\Program Files\MSN Messenger\ therfore Messenger Plus! Live is still detecting WLM 8.1, as the new WLM 8.5 is now installed in C:\Program Files\Windows Live\Messenger so Messenger Plus! doesn't find it.
RE: Official Windows Live Messenger 8.5 Beta - Released! by RamGuy on 05-31-2007 at 02:59 PM

Could some one please give me an alternative download link, or upload the United Kingdom version of Windows Live Messenger 8.5 BETA?

When I download using FireFox from the official links, I get a corrupted installation file it seems.. After clicking "Accept", nothing more happens.. It wont install.. And that's odd, since I've installed the Spanish leaked version a few days ago.. And that work without any problems..
Another odd thing was that the download took me just 1sec..

So it seems like my FireFox v2.0.0.4 got some issues downloading it..
When I start the download in FlashGet or Internet Explorer, it takes approximately 10-14hours before it's finished..

So could any one please give me an alternative link (if there are any)
Or upload it for me somewhere, so I can download it? Please

RE: Official Windows Live Messenger 8.5 Beta - Released! by Screeny² on 05-31-2007 at 03:12 PM

RamGuy:

I believe your downloads are not corrupted, try this:

Liveside.net - Windows Live Installer Problems?

This should solve your problems. :)

If not: Install_WLMessenger.exe (18,0 MB; English/UK)

RE: Official Windows Live Messenger 8.5 Beta - Released! by Dudeboy on 05-31-2007 at 03:17 PM

Seems as my Messmerise Beta tool will be delayed seen as i have to update the code to support WLM 8.5.. Grr :P 8-)

RE: Official Windows Live Messenger 8.5 Beta - Released! by jhatcher16 on 05-31-2007 at 08:00 PM

Can't wait for this. Much needed.

Thanks for all the hard work Patchou (Y) means a lot.

RE: Official Windows Live Messenger 8.5 Beta - Released! by Xy7 on 05-31-2007 at 08:31 PM

quote:
Originally posted by jhatcher16
Thanks for all the hard work Patchou (Y) means a lot.

Agreed :)
RE: RE: Official Windows Live Messenger 8.5 Beta - Released! by kvnhmmd on 05-31-2007 at 09:55 PM

quote:
Originally posted by Screeny²
RamGuy:

I believe your downloads are not corrupted, try this:

Liveside.net - Windows Live Installer Problems?

This should solve your problems. :)

If not: Install_WLMessenger.exe (18,0 MB; English/UK)

I had this problem also after installing the leaked version, after deleting the windows live folder, and the one in the program data folder (and yes, i had to restart) it installed perfectly
RE: Official Windows Live Messenger 8.5 Beta - Released! by Dennis Mike on 05-31-2007 at 10:36 PM

how work it with msgplus?

RE: Official Windows Live Messenger 8.5 Beta - Released! by warmth on 05-31-2007 at 10:52 PM

it doesn't... you just can do that the plus get loaded with a trick.. but the features aren't all compatible... wait for the new release of plus... that will be soon... and FULL COMPATIBLE dude... ;)!!!

RE: Official Windows Live Messenger 8.5 Beta - Released! by Pyroteq on 06-01-2007 at 03:26 AM

Im in the beta but i'd rather use Plus!

RE: Official Windows Live Messenger 8.5 Beta - Released! by Rolando on 06-01-2007 at 03:44 AM

quote:
Originally posted by Pyroteq
Im in the beta but i'd rather use Plus!

will come out soon ;)
RE: Official Windows Live Messenger 8.5 Beta - Released! by Idium on 06-01-2007 at 09:53 AM

yeah, i just got my invite today, well its all ok at the moment but the layout needs a bit of a /slap

RE: Official Windows Live Messenger 8.5 Beta - Released! by damnidunno on 06-01-2007 at 01:13 PM

cant wait :P

RE: Official Windows Live Messenger 8.5 Beta - Released! by intellexi on 06-01-2007 at 02:08 PM

quote:
Originally posted by Patchou
Do not, I repeat, do NOT do this trick to make the current version of Plus! work with Messenger 8.5 (or at least, don't publicize it). I'm already working on a quick fix for this new beta,

Thanks for that information.

But what exactly does this mean? Will you release the fix in a couple of days or weeks?
RE: Official Windows Live Messenger 8.5 Beta - Released! by High Speed Chaser on 06-01-2007 at 02:32 PM

quote:
Originally posted by intellexi
quote:
Originally posted by Patchou
Do not, I repeat, do NOT do this trick to make the current version of Plus! work with Messenger 8.5 (or at least, don't publicize it). I'm already working on a quick fix for this new beta,

Thanks for that information.

But what exactly does this mean? Will you release the fix in a couple of days or weeks?

There was a BAD way of making plus! 4.21 work with 8.5 that would cause problems in future releases (I think) so Patchou is going to release soon I believe msg plus! 4.22 which will be compatible without doing something stupid. I heard by the end of the weekend from somewhere but I'm not sure where. It could come out by the end of the weekend it could come out next weekend. I guess we will play the waiting game (AKA Hungry Hungry Hippos).
RE: Official Windows Live Messenger 8.5 Beta - Released! by CookieRevised on 06-01-2007 at 02:40 PM

quote:
Originally posted by intellexi
quote:
Originally posted by Patchou
Do not, I repeat, do NOT do this trick to make the current version of Plus! work with Messenger 8.5 (or at least, don't publicize it). I'm already working on a quick fix for this new beta,

Thanks for that information.

But what exactly does this mean? Will you release the fix in a couple of days or weeks?
It means that Plus! will NOT work decently with this new WLM 8.5 version, even if people claim they "have no problems". Because those people most likely didn't tested Plus! properly, otherwise they too would see that Plus! is currently not entirly compatiable with WLM 8.5...

As for the release of a compatible version: extremely soon... as in any day now...
RE: Official Windows Live Messenger 8.5 Beta - Released! by Matti on 06-01-2007 at 04:21 PM

quote:
Originally posted by CookieRevised
As for the release of a compatible version: extremely soon... as in any day now...
Woa, would that become the fastest update for MP!L to support a new version ever?
* Matti sets countdown...
RE: Official Windows Live Messenger 8.5 Beta - Released! by Rolando on 06-01-2007 at 04:22 PM

quote:
Originally posted by intellexi
quote:
Originally posted by Patchou
Do not, I repeat, do NOT do this trick to make the current version of Plus! work with Messenger 8.5 (or at least, don't publicize it). I'm already working on a quick fix for this new beta,

Thanks for that information.

But what exactly does this mean? Will you release the fix in a couple of days or weeks?

I would say day (without the s!)
RE: Official Windows Live Messenger 8.5 Beta - Released! by damnidunno on 06-01-2007 at 09:23 PM

:D im excited or something, dunno why
must be the suspense!

woot just got the update. thanks!
i missed my msgplus :P