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User's country flag in postbit by Omar on 06-14-2007 at 02:26 PM
quote:
On Today at 12:06 AM, WDZ on a pm wrote:
quote:Maybe. It is a cool feature... I added it to the DevBB board back in 2002 but then it got lost in some upgrade, I guess.
On Today at 12:48 pm, Omar on a pm wrote:
Can you add the flag of the users country to the postbit... like we did in the spanish forums...
It does look good... and it will give the sense of how international msgplus is..
If I added it now I imagine some members would complain about the extra junk cluttering up the postbit, and I really hate making every little thing optional...
This decision may require... a poll.
It looks like this in the spanish forums... it doesnt look too cluttered, and it gives the sense on how international msgplus! is...
It wont cure cancer and it is not a needed feature... but it does look good.
![[Image: Image1.png]](http://itsucksto.be/Image1.png)
RE: User's country flag in postbit by Chris4 on 06-14-2007 at 02:34 PM
Yeah, would be cool 
RE: User's country flag in postbit by Sunshine on 06-14-2007 at 02:37 PM
Cool, but it can do without País/Country. Just centered there will do, would look loads better imo. It kinda looks out of place with the text infront, if you get what i mean.
RE: RE: User's country flag in postbit by Chris4 on 06-14-2007 at 02:38 PM
quote:Agreed
Originally posted by Sunshine
Cool, but it can do without País/Country. Just centered there will do, would look loads better imo. It kinda looks out of place with the text infront, if you get what i mean.
RE: User's country flag in postbit by ahmetgns on 06-14-2007 at 02:49 PM
I don't think anyone will vote NO 
lets do it right now
RE: User's country flag in postbit by vaccination on 06-14-2007 at 03:04 PM
quote:Seconded.
Originally posted by Sunshine
Cool, but it can do without País/Country. Just centered there will do, would look loads better imo. It kinda looks out of place with the text infront, if you get what i mean.
RE: User's country flag in postbit by Menthix on 06-14-2007 at 03:06 PM
Like it, but maybe place it somewhere so the postbit wont get any higher.
Right now people already can have 2 tags + a big avatar, when those people post something of only a few lines text the postbit on the left side is way bigger than the actual post on the right side of it, which isn't pretty.
Maybe replace "Age: 22, Sex: ![[Image: male.gif]](http://shoutbox.menthix.net/images/male.gif)
" with "22 / / <FLAG>"? Imagine a small flag image instead of <FLAG> .
RE: User's country flag in postbit by Oxy on 06-14-2007 at 03:07 PM
I'd like this idea tbh, It will also give you some idea on the timezone difference too
RE: User's country flag in postbit by markee on 06-14-2007 at 03:10 PM
quote:I like that idea. Even if it used "ASL:" before it....
Originally posted by MenthiX
Like it, but maybe place it somewhere so the postbit wont get any higher.
Right now people already can have 2 tags + a big avatar, when those people post something of only a few lines text the postbit on the left side is way bigger than the actual post on the right side of it, which isn't pretty.
Maybe replace "Age: 22, Sex:
RE: User's country flag in postbit by matty on 06-14-2007 at 03:32 PM
= 22 / / ![[Image: canadian_flag.png]](http://www.slapupsidethehead.com/wp-content/themes/slapupsidethehead/canadian_flag.png)
... too wide i think...
And without the
22 / /
RE: User's country flag in postbit by toddy on 06-14-2007 at 03:41 PM
quote:
Originally posted by ahmetgns
I don't think anyone will vote NO
tbh bit of a waste of space. then again, wouldn't mind either way tho
RE: User's country flag in postbit by Omar on 06-14-2007 at 03:51 PM
quote:well... avatars and signatures are not needed and also a waste of space... but its a decorative feature...
Originally posted by toddy
tbh bit of a waste of space.
= 22 / / ![[Image: Chile.gif]](http://foro.msgpluslive.es/images/flags/Chile.gif)
That looks good...
RE: User's country flag in postbit by Lourix on 06-14-2007 at 05:10 PM
It would make the forums more international rather than american.
RE: User's country flag in postbit by kao on 06-14-2007 at 05:22 PM
Yes, but the flags should be smaller imo =p
RE: User's country flag in postbit by EBFL on 06-14-2007 at 06:38 PM
I like this idea, but i like how it is set out now so i'd prefer to just add the flag under the original stuff.
Edit:
quote:No | 2 | 7.69%
Originally posted by ahmetgns
I don't think anyone will vote NO
RE: User's country flag in postbit by joey on 06-14-2007 at 06:46 PM
new feature on the postbit - ftw! id like it. but how about an option for it not to be there? some users might want some privacy? [dont know why but hey =p]
RE: User's country flag in postbit by stoshrocket on 06-14-2007 at 06:59 PM
quote:
Originally posted by ICD
new feature on the postbit - ftw! id like it. but how about an option for it not to be there? some users might want some privacy? [dont know why but hey =p]
quote:
Originally posted by WDZ
I really hate making every little thing optional...
RE: User's country flag in postbit by andrey on 06-14-2007 at 07:03 PM
as long as you can turn it off in the user prefs, okay add it it..
otherwise: no.
RE: User's country flag in postbit by ahmetgns on 06-14-2007 at 07:06 PM
quote:I couldn't see flags for some members on Spanish forum, how could you do that? Is there an option there for such thing?
Originally posted by ICD
but how about an option for it not to be there? some users might want some privacy? [dont know why but hey =p]
Anyway, I don't know how it would be possible without an option ??? Will you detect the region with IP address?
RE: RE: User's country flag in postbit by CookieRevised on 06-14-2007 at 07:09 PM
quote:Absolutely and the sole reason why I wouldn't like it when it is added underneath.
Originally posted by MenthiX
Like it, but maybe place it somewhere so the postbit wont get any higher.
Right now people already can have 2 tags + a big avatar, when those people post something of only a few lines text the postbit on the left side is way bigger than the actual post on the right side of it, which isn't pretty.
If it is added after the age and gender it would be ok I think (and indeed interesting to see, and also will aid in remembering who is who with all those name changes sometimes), provided the GIFs aren't higher than the gender images of course...
Right now the average height of posts is already waaaaaaay higher than it needs to be for many people exactly because of all the info in the left cell (and especially because of the (unneeded) high avatars people sometimes use)...
RE: User's country flag in postbit by Sunshine on 06-14-2007 at 07:10 PM
quote:I'm assuming (dangerous i know) it will take the location from what you've set in your profile...so like everything else, what you don't set won't show?
Originally posted by andrey
as long as you can turn it off in the user prefs, okay add it it..
otherwise: no.
quote:Hmm, restrict avatar height in favour of countryflag?
Originally posted by CookieRevised
quote:Absolutely and the sole reason why I wouldn't like it when it is added underneath.
Originally posted by MenthiX
Like it, but maybe place it somewhere so the postbit wont get any higher.
Right now people already can have 2 tags + a big avatar, when those people post something of only a few lines text the postbit on the left side is way bigger than the actual post on the right side of it, which isn't pretty.
If it is added after the age and gender it would be ok I think (and indeed interesting to see, and also will aid in remembering who is who with all those name changes sometimes), provided the GIFs aren't higher than the gender images of course...
Right now the average height of posts is already waaaaaaay higher than it needs to be for many people exactly because of all the info in the left cell (and especially because of the (unneeded) high avatars people sometimes use)...
RE: User's country flag in postbit by prashker on 06-14-2007 at 07:11 PM
I like it, agreed with Sunshine on just the flag only .
quote:
Originally posted by Sunshine
Hmm, restrict avatar height in favour of countryflag?
NEVAR!
RE: User's country flag in postbit by joey on 06-14-2007 at 07:14 PM
quote:
Originally posted by ahmetgns
....Will you detect the region with IP address?
if you set if once, you dont need to. it'll only complicate things.
RE: User's country flag in postbit by EBFL on 06-14-2007 at 07:24 PM
RE: User's country flag in postbit by prashker on 06-14-2007 at 07:25 PM
Why not put it beside "IP Address: Logged" ?
RE: User's country flag in postbit by ahmetgns on 06-14-2007 at 07:44 PM
quote:No, keeping every information about member together would be nice, not at the other side of the page.
Originally posted by SonicSam
Why not put it beside "IP Address: Logged"
RE: User's country flag in postbit by Chrono on 06-14-2007 at 07:53 PM
quote:Go go Chile
Originally posted by Omar
quote:well... avatars and signatures are not needed and also a waste of space... but its a decorative feature...
Originally posted by toddy
tbh bit of a waste of space.
That looks good...
maybe if the flag wasnt so big
RE: User's country flag in postbit by MicroWay on 06-14-2007 at 09:09 PM
Using the opinions of sunshine and others, I think this is how it should looks like:
And maybe the opition to enable/disable the "flag feature" should be added again too....
I vote for YES
Edit: About the "IP Logged" thing, I think it should be kept where it's...
RE: User's country flag in postbit by Oxy on 06-14-2007 at 09:12 PM
quote:
Originally posted by MicroWay
Using the opinions of sunshine and others, I think this is how it should looks like:
And maybe the opition to enable/disable the "flag feature" should be addedagaintoo....
I vote for YES
I do also vote yes, but i think that makes it miles too big
imo:
quote:
That looks good...
RE: RE: User's country flag in postbit by MicroWay on 06-14-2007 at 09:24 PM
quote:
And the Reputation/Joined/Number of Posts???
RE: User's country flag in postbit by prashker on 06-14-2007 at 09:25 PM
Use these.
http://flags.blogpotato.de/zip/world.small.zip
Perfect Size. And has everything .
RE: User's country flag in postbit by Oxy on 06-14-2007 at 09:28 PM
quote:
Originally posted by MicroWay
And the Reputation/Joined/Number of Posts???
I don't see the need for "joined" tbh.. but the rest can all go under
saves three lines or so
RE: User's country flag in postbit by Nagamasa on 06-14-2007 at 09:41 PM
quote:Isn't it Canadian?
Originally posted by Lourix
rather than american.
quote:They remain where they currently are.
Originally posted by MicroWay
And the Reputation/Joined/Number of Posts???
quote:For once, I agree with you.
Originally posted by ahmetgns
quote:No, keeping every information about member together would be nice, not at the other side of the page.
Originally posted by SonicSam
Why not put it beside "IP Address: Logged"
quote:Moi aussi.
Originally posted by SonicSam
quote:NEVAR!
Originally posted by Sunshine
Hmm, restrict avatar height in favour of countryflag?
Good suggestion...but would WDZ implement it? That's the hard part.
RE: User's country flag in postbit by toddy on 06-14-2007 at 09:41 PM
quote:http://shoutbox.menthix.net/images/smilies/index.php?cat=flags&sb=1
Originally posted by SonicSam
Use these.
http://flags.blogpotato.de/zip/world.small.zip
Perfect Size. And has everything
RE: User's country flag in postbit by WDZ on 06-14-2007 at 09:46 PM
quote:But remember that all of those fields are optional... if you don't specify an age or sex they're not shown...
Originally posted by MenthiX
Maybe replace "Age: 22, Sex:
The set of flag images I have are all 32x20, like this:
![[Image: mexico.gif]](http://shoutbox.menthix.net/images/smilies/mexico.gif)
I'll have a look at SonicSam's link though.
Edit before posting: Those are all 18x12... interesting.
![[Image: vygrkgfv-mx.png]](http://shoutbox.menthix.net/files/index.php/dl/vygrkgfv-mx.png)
quote:There would be an option for each user to set their own country. The option I mentioned in my PM to Omar is something different.
Originally posted by ahmetgns
Anyway, I don't know how it would be possible without an option ???
quote:Agreed. Throwing the flag in some other location wouldn't make sense.
Originally posted by ahmetgns
No, keeping every information about member together would be nice, not at the other side of the page.
RE: User's country flag in postbit by Menthix on 06-14-2007 at 09:46 PM
quote:Psst, there are more than 19 countries on this world
Originally posted by toddy
http://shoutbox.menthix.net/images/smilies/index.php?cat=flags&sb=1
.
RE: User's country flag in postbit by Rolando on 06-14-2007 at 09:47 PM
quote:
Originally posted by vaccination
quote:Seconded.
Originally posted by Sunshine
Cool, but it can do without País/Country. Just centered there will do, would look loads better imo. It kinda looks out of place with the text infront, if you get what i mean.
^Oh and I made DZ add the venezuelan flag there
RE: RE: User's country flag in postbit by WDZ on 06-14-2007 at 09:53 PM
quote:Seriously?
Originally posted by MenthiX
Psst, there are more than 19 countries on this world
I only uploaded the common ones, and the ones requested by members (as q25 said).
RE: User's country flag in postbit by prashker on 06-14-2007 at 09:55 PM
WDZ:
http://flags.blogpotato.de/zip/world.zip
BIgger ones.
25x15 px
RE: User's country flag in postbit by Menthix on 06-14-2007 at 09:56 PM
quote:I know, was replying to Toddy, giving a link to just 19 flags while Sam has a package with loads
Originally posted by WDZ
I only uploaded the common ones
.quote:Those small ones seem perfect too me. EDIT: Hmm, the 25x15 aren't bad either... but i guess only the smallest fit with the heigt of the gender image.
Originally posted by SonicSam
BIgger ones.
25x15 px
RE: User's country flag in postbit by prashker on 06-14-2007 at 09:58 PM
Well, when WDZ said interesting, I didnt know if that was a 'too small hmmmm' or 'too big hmmm' or 'looks good hmmm' .
RE: User's country flag in postbit by dylan! on 06-14-2007 at 10:09 PM
how about under the flag it says what country it is because people may not know the flag
RE: User's country flag in postbit by kotjze on 06-14-2007 at 10:14 PM
quote:Or they could hover over the flag and it says what country it is.
Originally posted by dylan!
how about under the flag it says what country it is because people may not know the flag
RE: User's country flag in postbit by Nagamasa on 06-14-2007 at 10:14 PM
quote:That would take up to much space (i.e., what if. by some unknown reason, if someone did not know what the male sign was?)
Originally posted by dylan!
how about under the flag it says what country it is because people may not know the flag
The 2-letter code max is needed (even that isn't really needed). They can Google up the code and find it.
quote:
Originally posted by MenthiX
People can look at the profile, make it link to the profile if needed, but adding text under it is wasting even more space.
quote:
Originally posted by Kotjze
Or they could hover over the flag and it says what country it is.
Also possible solutions.
RE: User's country flag in postbit by Menthix on 06-14-2007 at 10:14 PM
quote:People can look at the profile, make it link to the profile if needed, but adding text under it is wasting even more space.
Originally posted by dylan!
under the flag it says what country it is because people may not know the flag
RE: User's country flag in postbit by surfichris on 06-15-2007 at 12:49 AM
At least get decent looking flags. http://famfamfam.com/lab/icons/flags/famfamfam_flag_icons.zip
RE: User's country flag in postbit by tony on 06-15-2007 at 01:01 AM
those are amazing surfi
RE: User's country flag in postbit by Omar on 06-15-2007 at 01:18 AM
quote:those are pretty decent flags surfi...
Originally posted by Chris Boulton
At least get decent looking flags. http://famfamfam.com/lab/icons/flags/famfamfam_flag_icons.zip
* Omar steals
RE: User's country flag in postbit by Rolando on 06-15-2007 at 02:02 AM
quote:
Originally posted by Lukas
quote:
Originally posted by MicroWay
And the Reputation/Joined/Number of Posts???
I don't see the need for "joined" tbh.. but the rest can all go under
I do.. its nice. It must stay. Ok?
RE: User's country flag in postbit by prashker on 06-15-2007 at 02:38 AM
quote:
Originally posted by Chris Boulton
At least get decent looking flags. http://famfamfam.com/lab/icons/flags/famfamfam_flag_icons.zip
psh I lose ;<.
RE: RE: User's country flag in postbit by WDZ on 06-15-2007 at 07:22 AM
So, any more ideas about the layout? 
In the profile I can just do something straightforward like this...
![[Image: hhlf3lyk-lolcanada.png]](http://shoutbox.menthix.net/files/index.php/dl/hhlf3lyk-lolcanada.png)
But I dunno what to do with the postbit to make everyone happy.
quote:Yeah, I'll definitely add the title attribute to the images.
Originally posted by Kotjze
Or they could hover over the flag and it says what country it is.
quote:Those are awesome, and it looks like they shall work nicely.
Originally posted by Chris Boulton
At least get decent looking flags. http://famfamfam.com/lab/icons/flags/famfamfam_flag_icons.zip
RE: User's country flag in postbit by Eljay on 06-15-2007 at 07:56 AM
Yeah definitely use the famfamfam icons, even has the Welsh flag
RE: User's country flag in postbit by John Anderton on 06-15-2007 at 08:43 AM
If its in the profile, I wouldn't mind it. Wouldn't want it along side my posts though. For one, that would mean more images to load for dial up users not that the files would be big. And there are a few more reasons which I don't care to get into.
I'd love it for the profile though
RE: User's country flag in postbit by Lou on 06-15-2007 at 10:39 AM
quote:Dial-up users should be able to set in the user cp not to download them, although they aren't that big.
Originally posted by John Anderton
If its in the profile, I wouldn't mind it. Wouldn't want it along side my posts though. For one, that would mean more images to load for dial up users not that the files would be big. And there are a few more reasons which I don't care to get into.
I'd love it for the profile though
RE: User's country flag in postbit by user44571 on 06-15-2007 at 11:06 AM
quote:
Originally posted by Sunshine
Cool, but it can do without País/Country. Just centered there will do, would look loads better imo. It kinda looks out of place with the text infront, if you get what i mean.
Edit:
quote:
Originally posted by John Anderton
So mine would be
code:John Anderton
Posting Freak
<Beta Testers Image>
<avatar>
Posts: <post count>
Reputation: <rep count>
Age: <age>, Sex: <m image>
Status: Online
<Indian Flag>
Yeah that would look good I think.
I like it
RE: User's country flag in postbit by saralk on 06-15-2007 at 11:07 AM
Why not get rid of the stars, they are a bit redundant if you ask me, since most of the regulars have 5 stars already. Then you have quite a bit more space.
Also, you could get rid of the Joined bit, which is even more useless if you ask me.
And then have the flag on the same line as the Age and Sex.
RE: User's country flag in postbit by John Anderton on 06-15-2007 at 11:19 AM
quote:Something like..
Originally posted by saralk
Why not get rid of the stars, they are a bit redundant if you ask me, since most of the regulars have 5 stars already. Then you have quite a bit more space.
Also, you could get rid of the Joined bit, which is even more useless if you ask me.
And then have the flag on the same line as the Age and Sex.
code:
<username>
<group>
<group images>
<avatar>
Posts: <post count>
Reputation: <rep count>
Age: <age>, Sex: <m/f/both image>
Status: <status>
<flag centered>
So mine would be
code:
John Anderton
Posting Freak
<Beta Testers Image>
<avatar>
Posts: <post count>
Reputation: <rep count>
Age: <age>, Sex: <m image>
Status: Online
<Indian Flag>
Yeah that would look good I think.
RE: User's country flag in postbit by saralk on 06-15-2007 at 02:06 PM
i mean more like
Obviously, i'm not from Chile, but I just took that from Chrono's post.
RE: User's country flag in postbit by absorbation on 06-15-2007 at 02:10 PM
Saralk layout is my favourite, it's a great idea .
RE: RE: User's country flag in postbit by markee on 06-15-2007 at 02:13 PM
quote:I think I could get used to that personally. And I fully agree with losing the stars in favour of the flag, it would tell me more about the person. And I should be able to have a rough guess at how long someone has been on the boards based upon how much I have seen them anyway (or their post count). The only trouble is when it comes to new people.... but from previous experience, they rarely listen to the knowledgeable members and just go for the short posts anyway so it wouldn't really matter....
Originally posted by saralk
i mean more like
Obviously, i'm not from Chile, but I just took that from Chrono's post.
RE: User's country flag in postbit by Voldemort on 06-15-2007 at 02:28 PM
I liked the stars but if you must.....
RE: RE: User's country flag in postbit by tony on 06-15-2007 at 02:50 PM
![[Image: star.gif]](http://shoutbox.menthix.net/images/star.gif)
i dont see any problem with having the stars
RE: User's country flag in postbit by joey on 06-15-2007 at 02:55 PM
im conficted, i like the stars, it [helps] new members to tell from more experienced once to n00bs, but on the other hand on tony's post it looks rather cluttered, with lots of info there.....another poll?
RE: User's country flag in postbit by saralk on 06-15-2007 at 03:02 PM
quote:
Originally posted by tony
i dont see any problem with having the stars
I just think they're redundant, I could sort of see their use in older times when a) we didn't have as many members, so it was more of a challenge to get to the posting freak level and b) we didn't have the reputation system so the post count was the only thing that gave an indication of the user's standing in the community.
Although we are getting a bit off topic here.
RE: User's country flag in postbit by Menthix on 06-15-2007 at 03:54 PM
Looks good saral, that's what i had in mind too.
WDZ: If somebody didn't fill in an age, sex or location field you can just replace it with a small "-" or "N/A" or something like it, just makes sure it doesn't draw to much attention away from the fields that are filled in.
Also, completely agree on removing the stars. Just by looking at postcount and/or membergroup title you know enough. While WDZ is removing unnecessary bits anyway.... get rid of the "IP Address: Logged" part, at least hide it for non-admins/mods, that information is completely useless for normal members.
RE: User's country flag in postbit by Kenji on 06-15-2007 at 04:47 PM
Its a good idea, here is a suggestion of what i would want it to look like 
http://dazzy.org/lawl.html
EDIT: I tried to change the user name to green to indicate that im online, but it didnt work out.
So when someone is online their username is a green colour, and when someone is offline its a black/grey colour.
RE: User's country flag in postbit by joey on 06-15-2007 at 04:54 PM
lawl @ your rep you can keep dreaming!
and to the idea - yeah it looks good. WDZ, to work!
RE: User's country flag in postbit by Rolando on 06-15-2007 at 05:14 PM
quote:
Originally posted by saralk
i mean more like
Obviously, i'm not from Chile, but I just took that from Chrono's post.
hm.. I think I like it saying when we each joined, but I guess we can see that in the profile... so that one is ok
RE: User's country flag in postbit by Thor on 06-15-2007 at 05:41 PM
I love it, I love how tony's look, I like the stars, even though I agree with the fact that they're not really needed anymore.
Definetly yes!
RE: User's country flag in postbit by felipEx on 06-15-2007 at 06:12 PM
<3 it !
indeed i've a proud mexican flag 
RE: User's country flag in postbit by Eljay on 06-15-2007 at 06:38 PM
quote:
Originally posted by q25
hm.. I think I like it saying when we each joined, but I guess we can see that in the profile... so that one is ok
Using that same argument you could also argue that we don't need anything apart from the username and avatar (something which I personally agree with
).
RE: User's country flag in postbit by Chrono on 06-15-2007 at 07:49 PM
why do people want to remove the stars if there isnt a new line being added? it's just a little image at the side of the sex thing
quote:lol @ saral being chilean
Originally posted by tony
i dont see any problem with having the stars
RE: User's country flag in postbit by joey on 06-15-2007 at 07:56 PM
and even if they are on dial-up one TINY, LITTLE image like that isn't really going to slow it down is it?
RE: User's country flag in postbit by L. Coyote on 06-15-2007 at 08:20 PM
quote:Especially since the famfamfam flags are less than 1K in size.
Originally posted by ICD
and even if they are on dial-up one TINY, LITTLE image like that isn't really going to slow it down is it?
I like the idea of having it in the postbit... But I won't die if it's just in the bio.
RE: User's country flag in postbit by Menthix on 06-16-2007 at 12:03 AM
quote:Because the postbit is already (too) long as it is now... while we're changing it, let's remove some unnecessary things
Originally posted by Chrono
why do people want to remove the stars if there isnt a new line being added?
.
RE: RE: User's country flag in postbit by CookieRevised on 06-16-2007 at 12:13 AM
quote:It is not about one tiny image, it is about all the images and bits and bolts together.
Originally posted by ICD
and even if they are on dial-up one TINY, LITTLE image like that isn't really going to slow it down is it?
1 tiny extra line underneath all the info isn't going to do much. But what is going to be suggested next? And after that? And then what? etc.. etc...
This already happened in the past with the size of avatars and signatures. First it was X then it was a bit larger because what would 10px more hurt, then it was again a bit larger, etc...
What I find important is the usefull information, the info which, when put together, could give an idea of what the person knows or what his background is and how much he/she is familiar with the forum. This is a support forum in the first place, so I find such info more important than knowing from which country he/she came or what their gender is. Such info includes postcount, time of joining(!), rep, and maybe age.... All the rest is just 'interesting'...
As a last thought, you can not say to people if you don't like it don't show it. That is way too easy and cheap... People who like to see such things should not be punished because other people abuse it. Aka: it is not because I do not like SonicSam's random avatars sometimes containing +100 KB animated gifs, and thus slowing everything down, that I should disable the view of avatars.
I wouldn't mind the country flag being there as long as it does not add any more height (not one pixel) to the whole user info column.
RE: User's country flag in postbit by MicroWay on 06-16-2007 at 12:41 AM
I prefer to have the flag on the postbit than the bio
Anyways....
Edit: About the stars, for me, I think it should be kept as they are...
RE: User's country flag in postbit by WDZ on 06-16-2007 at 12:45 AM
quote:
Originally posted by .Lou
Dial-up users should be able to set in the user cp not to download them
! Bah, I suppose I'll add a "show flag images next to posts" option if you guys insist... quote:I dunno, I find it useful...
Originally posted by saralk
Also, you could get rid of the Joined bit, which is even more useless if you ask me.
(and so does Cookie! =p)Here's another idea to think about: hide the "Status: Offline" text. The status could be shown only for members who are Online or Away.
quote:Umm, OK.
Originally posted by MenthiX
... get rid of the "IP Address: Logged" part, at least hide it for non-admins/mods, that information is completely useless for normal members.
But if you normal members don't have to see it, I don't want to see it either. 
Maybe I'll add a little button for it like the Quick Delete.quote:
Originally posted by MenthiX
If somebody didn't fill in an age, sex or location field you can just replace it with a small "-" or "N/A" or something like it, just makes sure it doesn't draw to much attention away from the fields that are filled in.
18 /
/ ![[Image: cl.png]](http://shoutbox.menthix.net/images/flags/cl.png)
Joined: Mar 2002
Looks great with everything filled in, let's experiment...
Reputation: 99
/ ![[Image: ca.png]](http://shoutbox.menthix.net/images/flags/ca.png)
Joined: Mar 2002
Reputation: 99
- /
/ ![[Image: us.png]](http://shoutbox.menthix.net/images/flags/us.png)
Joined: Mar 2002
Reputation: 99
18 /
/ -Joined: Mar 2002
Reputation: 99
- / - / -
Joined: Mar 2002
Reputation: 99
N/A / N/A / N/A
Joined: Mar 2002
The hyphen seems to work good.
RE: User's country flag in postbit by Voldemort on 06-16-2007 at 12:50 AM
quote:awesome idea
Originally posted by WDZ
Here's another idea to think about: hide the "Status: Offline" text. The status could be shown only for members who are Online or Away.
RE: User's country flag in postbit by Chrono on 06-16-2007 at 12:59 AM
quote:
Originally posted by CookieRevised
I find such info more important than knowing from which country he/she came or what their gender is. Such info includes postcount, time of joining(!), rep
quote:* Chrono slaps wdz around a bit with a large trout.
Originally posted by WDZ
I dunno, I find it useful... (and so does Cookie! =p)
although i do find it useful, at least you'll know if he guy who's replying to your question is a newbie on the forums or just doesnt post much.
RE: User's country flag in postbit by Lou on 06-16-2007 at 01:30 AM
quote:Another option?
Originally posted by WDZ
hide the "Status: Offline" text
"Hide users status' on posts" or something in that area.As well, is there truly any use to the avatar caption?
* Lou runs
RE: User's country flag in postbit by andrey on 06-16-2007 at 01:40 AM
quote:yes.. avatar caption > weird flags.
Originally posted by .Lou
As well, is there truly any use to the avatar caption?
there's no real use for having a flag in every post either and imo the location bit in the profile is enough, because what does it matter where someone lives? no need to stick it in every post imo.
* andrey runs..
I agree that the flags look kinda neat though
RE: User's country flag in postbit by markee on 06-16-2007 at 02:02 AM
For the people who don't see the point in the flags....
The country in which someone comes from is highly important in how that person acts. Has anyone else here done any international business subjects or management subjects relating to international companies. Have a google for "Hofstede" and you can start to grasp the diversity in how people behave. Also with understand where a person comes from you can have a little more understanding for their english skills. Things like this really do matter quite a lot, it's not until you start looking at it before you really start understanding how different each country actually is to your own....
RE: User's country flag in postbit by Chrono on 06-16-2007 at 02:24 AM
quote:yep, in fact you can learn a lot about other peple's behavior depending on the country he's from
Originally posted by markee
For the people who don't see the point in the flags....
The country in which someone comes from is highly important in how that person acts. Has anyone else here done any international business subjects or management subjects relating to international companies. Have a google for "Hofstede" and you can start to grasp the diversity in how people behave. Also with understand where a person comes from you can have a little more understanding for their english skills. Things like this really do matter quite a lot, it's not until you start looking at it before you really start understanding how different each country actually is to your own....
. I've learnt a lot out of these forums For example, Americans are lazy (wdz)
No im just kidding
RE: User's country flag in postbit by John Anderton on 06-16-2007 at 05:05 AM
I want the user status and the avatar caption. kthx.
quote:I thought it was true
Originally posted by Chrono
For example, Americans are lazy (wdz)
No im just kidding
RE: User's country flag in postbit by Discrate on 06-16-2007 at 05:13 AM
Yer the flag is a good idea! please add it! please!
RE: User's country flag in postbit by ahmetgns on 06-16-2007 at 06:44 AM
Lets have a total change in forum. Lets cancel the postbit thingy, and keep every info in a box like contact card of Windows Live Spaces. Then we can add lots of things inside it without annyoying any person. Also we don't have to download always same things about a member (Member cards' content will be downloaded when we click on Members' name). Also pages will be very short, especially ones which contains short messages like "hello". People who wants to view the info about member can click on his/her name. Maybe it is very strange for a forum, but maybe Forums will use this method in the future as a standard forum look, and lets we will be the first as, I don't know, the biggest international community.
Edit: I opened a poll in Poll Center, please vote for it. Here Poll was removed with a reason I don't know yet. I know now that, poll was very unsuccessful and worth to be removed
RE: RE: User's country flag in postbit by Discrate on 06-16-2007 at 06:51 AM
quote:
Originally posted by ahmetgns
Lets have a total change in forum. Lets cancel the postbit thingy, and keep every info in a box like contact card of Windows Live Spaces. Then we can add lots of things inside it without annyoying any person. Also we don't have to download always same things about a member (Member cards' content will be downloaded when we click on Members' name). Also pages will be very short, especially ones which contains short messages like "hello". People who wants to view the info about member can click on his/her name. Maybe it is very strange for a forum, but maybe Forums will use this method in the future as a standard forum look, and lets we will be the first as, I don't know, the biggest international community.
Edit: I opened a poll in Poll Center, please vote for it. Here
No that looks so crap! i like having the users details on the side, i dont want to have to click on there name to see a contact card!
RE: User's country flag in postbit by user44571 on 06-16-2007 at 06:58 AM
quote:ew
Originally posted by ahmetgns
Lets have a total change in forum. Lets cancel the postbit thingy, and keep every info in a box like contact card of Windows Live Spaces. Then we can add lots of things inside it without annyoying any person. Also we don't have to download always same things about a member (Member cards' content will be downloaded when we click on Members' name). Also pages will be very short, especially ones which contains short messages like "hello". People who wants to view the info about member can click on his/her name. Maybe it is very strange for a forum, but maybe Forums will use this method in the future as a standard forum look, and lets we will be the first as, I don't know, the biggest international community.
Edit: I opened a poll in Poll Center, please vote for it. Here
RE: User's country flag in postbit by John Anderton on 06-16-2007 at 07:23 AM
Basic info there rocks. The excess info could be added in a card but tbh I don't see the need.
Thus I vote for no.
(By vote, I mean http://shoutbox.menthix.net/showthread.php?tid=75385 in case someone hasn't seen it already)
RE: User's country flag in postbit by Oxy on 06-16-2007 at 08:12 AM
quote:
Originally posted by Damokun
quote:ew
Originally posted by ahmetgns
Lets have a total change in forum. Lets cancel the postbit thingy, and keep every info in a box like contact card of Windows Live Spaces. Then we can add lots of things inside it without annyoying any person. Also we don't have to download always same things about a member (Member cards' content will be downloaded when we click on Members' name). Also pages will be very short, especially ones which contains short messages like "hello". People who wants to view the info about member can click on his/her name. Maybe it is very strange for a forum, but maybe Forums will use this method in the future as a standard forum look, and lets we will be the first as, I don't know, the biggest international community.
Edit: I opened a poll in Poll Center, please vote for it. Here
Agreed, like, wtf?
RE: User's country flag in postbit by markee on 06-16-2007 at 09:45 AM
The contact card gave me an idea of using a little bit of javascrip and extending out the div with the information on click and showing more information. Or possibly having minimal information and the contact card or something when you click it rather than having to go to a whole new page for their profile.
I do realise that we have to be considerate of people using 800x600 screens but can't you also show people wih large screens some consideration and allow us to be able to show a lot of information if we want (but when we ask for it, not all of the time )?
Maybe these things might be a bigger job and something to look into in the future, but they would give the board a great feel that ist found anywhere else....
RE: User's country flag in postbit by joey on 06-16-2007 at 09:58 AM
good point, individuality ftw.
RE: User's country flag in postbit by WDZ on 06-16-2007 at 10:28 AM
quote:
Originally posted by markee
For the people who don't see the point in the flags....
quote:I will. I've got most of the code ready to go... might add it tomorrow. I'm in no hurry though.
Originally posted by Discrate
Yer the flag is a good idea! please add it! please!
quote:Yeah.
Originally posted by markee
Maybe these things might be a bigger job and something to look into in the future,
quote:Don't all Invision Boards have contact cards? lol
but they would give the board a great feel that isn't found anywhere else....
![[Image: xfl23qbd-invision-card.png]](http://shoutbox.menthix.net/files/index.php/dl/xfl23qbd-invision-card.png)
RE: User's country flag in postbit by markee on 06-16-2007 at 10:59 AM
quote:First of all I didn't know. Second, they don't have all of the information. That one you showed is exactly a "Contact Card", I think what we would be after is more of an "Information Card" that has details about the person and maybe a button to "turn it over" for the contact information (kind of like the WLM contact cads have a second side to them).
Originally posted by WDZ
Don't all Invision Boards have contact cards?
RE: User's country flag in postbit by surfichris on 06-16-2007 at 12:07 PM
Can't you just click their username and go to their profile?
I honestly don't see why not.
What you're essentially doing is creating another interface to the profile page. When you add more and more interfaces there becomes several ways to accomplish the same task/view the same info and people become confused. Not to mention with extra interfaces you need to keep all of them maintained as well.
RE: User's country flag in postbit by markee on 06-16-2007 at 12:23 PM
The main reason behind it is convenience. I do realise the hassle behind maintaining it but loading up a whole new page requires me to load up an entirely new page rather than just a little bit and look on a little interface. Have a look at my attachment to see how big and bulky a profile page looks too me.... and it requires me to head away from the thread i was reading to look up the information about the person to remind myself (or in the case of a new person, to find out in the first place).
I do realise that you guys have better things to do, but the idea of an "information card" I believe is great for it's convenience and allowing us to view the information in the thread while keeping the information to a minimum on the left. I do also consider that this will make profile pages almost redundant, but couldn't we also say that the change of symbol in front of a forum on the index page is also redundant because of latest.php ?
I don't think we need this feature yet (as I stated before), but it might be something to think about for the future....
RE: User's country flag in postbit by saralk on 06-16-2007 at 01:10 PM
quote:
Originally posted by CookieRevised
What I find important is the usefull information, the info which, when put together, could give an idea of what the person knows or what his background is and how much he/she is familiar with the forum. This is a support forum in the first place, so I find such info more important than knowing from which country he/she came or what their gender is. Such info includes postcount, time of joining(!), rep, and maybe age.... All the rest is just 'interesting'...
I can sort of understand where you're coming from with time of joining, but I still think that the reputation is a far better indicator of the user's helpfulness rather than the time of joining.
I still think that we should get rid of the stars, they are completely redundant, and potentially dangerous as new member might think they are related to how helpful a user is. As you said, this is a support forum and so people just looking for help might think it has something to do with their seniority in the forum.
RE: User's country flag in postbit by Oxy on 06-16-2007 at 01:15 PM
quote:
Originally posted by saralk
I still think that we should get rid of the stars, they are completely redundant, and potentially dangerous as new member might think they are related to how helpful a user is
Good point imo. Also, some people try to post loads and loads just to get a bigger number of stars too
RE: RE: User's country flag in postbit by paperless on 06-16-2007 at 06:05 PM
quote:
Originally posted by Chris Boulton
At least get decent looking flags. http://famfamfam.com/lab/icons/flags/famfamfam_flag_icons.zip
With this pack of flags it would look very good.
I voted yes.
EDIT: pft..i always arrive late at things and miss all the fun.. well whatever
RE: User's country flag in postbit by wj on 06-16-2007 at 09:03 PM
Lets keep the spam down guys.
Cut it out with the "Agreed", "Seconded", ".", posts with only one emote, or posts with no actuall contributing content to the thread.
RE: User's country flag in postbit by WDZ on 06-17-2007 at 05:22 AM
OK, you can now select your country in the UserCP and the flag should show up in your profile and in the member list.
I still need to mess with the postbit code, so you'll have to wait a bit to see flags there...
RE: User's country flag in postbit by scott2010_h on 06-17-2007 at 05:26 AM
quote:I thought thats what i saw in the Test_Users profile
Originally posted by WDZ
OK, you can now select your country in the UserCP and the flag should show up in your profile and in the member list.
I still need to mess with the postbit code, so you'll have to wait a bit to see flags there...
RE: User's country flag in postbit by joey on 06-17-2007 at 05:51 AM
im liking the mouseover name too, those flags are really small! =p little-known countries are hard to regognize =p wd WDZ.
RE: User's country flag in postbit by Rolando on 06-17-2007 at 06:09 AM
only on profile?
RE: User's country flag in postbit by user44571 on 06-17-2007 at 06:11 AM
quote:Just wait a bit, he's working on ittttt
Originally posted by q25
only on profile?
RE: User's country flag in postbit by joey on 06-17-2007 at 06:12 AM
quote:good things come to those who wait.....as the guinness people say
Originally posted by WDZ
.....I still need to mess with the postbit code, so you'll have to wait a bit to see flags there...
quote:o.0 just looking at the test_user's profile? you have too much time on your hands looking at people profile's when they dont even post
Originally posted by scott2010_h
I thought thats what i saw in the Test_Users profile
RE: User's country flag in postbit by J.J on 06-17-2007 at 06:44 AM
I can't believe the amount of hoo-ha there has been about such a small thing. Jeez, just add the flag or don't add the flag - My god .
quote:
Originally posted by ahmetgns
Lets have a total change in forum. Lets cancel the postbit thingy, and keep every info in a box like contact card of Windows Live Spaces. Then we can add lots of things inside it without annyoying any person. Also we don't have to download always same things about a member (Member cards' content will be downloaded when we click on Members' name). Also pages will be very short, especially ones which contains short messages like "hello". People who wants to view the info about member can click on his/her name. Maybe it is very strange for a forum, but maybe Forums will use this method in the future as a standard forum look, and lets we will be the first as, I don't know, the biggest international community.
Edit: I opened a poll in Poll Center, please vote for it.HerePoll was removed with a reason I don't know yet.
No offense, but thats vomit worthy.
RE: User's country flag in postbit by scott2010_h on 06-17-2007 at 07:03 AM
quote:He was in the spambox so i was like hmm.... WDZ on Test_user? Maybe he did something with the flags?
Originally posted by ICD
o.0 just looking at the test_user's profile? you have too much time on your hands looking at people profile's when they dont even post (Smilie)
Edit: See http://shoutbox.menthix.net/shoutbox.php?hl=80336
RE: User's country flag in postbit by user44571 on 06-17-2007 at 09:07 AM
Woah it's done =D
RE: User's country flag in postbit by joey on 06-17-2007 at 09:11 AM
very impressive! it looked good on the example, but it looks very good now! any bugs WDZ?
RE: User's country flag in postbit by Oxy on 06-17-2007 at 09:11 AM
Whoa, very nice!
Well done wdz!
RE: User's country flag in postbit by WDZ on 06-17-2007 at 09:12 AM
quote:Yeah. I'm still trying to decide if it looks good... maybe it needs to be re-arranged... :\
Originally posted by Damokun
Woah it's done =D
Anyway, members can switch back to the old layout using the new option I added.
RE: User's country flag in postbit by Chrono on 06-17-2007 at 09:32 AM
looks pretty good wdz, although it still looks weird when you havent set your age..
Other than that,
RE: User's country flag in postbit by Eddie on 06-17-2007 at 10:51 AM
quote:Agreed. I think it may need a little more space but good otherwise
Originally posted by Chrono
looks pretty good wdz, although it still looks weird when you havent set your age..
Other than that,
RE: User's country flag in postbit by kao on 06-17-2007 at 11:11 AM
Now that the "Status: Offline" is gone, does it really need to say "Status: Online"? Why not just "Online" or "Away"? =p
RE: RE: User's country flag in postbit by Discrate on 06-17-2007 at 11:14 AM
quote:
Originally posted by alex
Now that the "Status: Offline" is gone, does it really need to say "Status: Online"? Why not just "Online" or "Away"? =p
Geeze dont get picky! all it needs i think is the flag down the bottom of the info,instead of the middle.
RE: User's country flag in postbit by joey on 06-17-2007 at 11:24 AM
it's only been in place for a couple of hours lol there's time to change things you know =p i like it as it is. not too fussed about anything else just dont go and get rid of it now!
RE: User's country flag in postbit by Omar on 06-17-2007 at 11:26 AM
now that the flags are in the postbit, stop spamming and some mod/admin should close this topic...
RE: User's country flag in postbit by Nathan on 06-17-2007 at 11:29 AM
It looks nice.
RE: User's country flag in postbit by WDZ on 06-17-2007 at 11:32 AM
There might still be stuff to discuss, like possible layout changes, or bugs or something... =o
RE: User's country flag in postbit by saralk on 06-17-2007 at 11:34 AM
I still think we should get rid of those pesky stars
RE: User's country flag in postbit by Nathan on 06-17-2007 at 11:35 AM
WDZ:
You forgot to add an option in the registering
RE: User's country flag in postbit by WDZ on 06-17-2007 at 11:40 AM
quote:It's on my todo list... I'll add it after I get some sleep.
Originally posted by Napbree
WDZ:
You forgot to add an option in the registering
http://shoutbox.menthix.net/shoutbox.php?hl=80559
RE: RE: User's country flag in postbit by CookieRevised on 06-17-2007 at 11:43 AM
quote:Yeah, I understand... but I think one thing isn't more important than the other thing. It is putting the things together which gives the proper information.
Originally posted by saralk
quote:I can sort of understand where you're coming from with time of joining, but I still think that the reputation is a far better indicator of the user's helpfulness rather than the time of joining.
Originally posted by CookieRevised
What I find important is the usefull information, the info which, when put together, could give an idea of what the person knows or what his background is and how much he/she is familiar with the forum. This is a support forum in the first place, so I find such info more important than knowing from which country he/she came or what their gender is. Such info includes postcount, time of joining(!), rep, and maybe age.... All the rest is just 'interesting'...
A reputation on its own doesn't say much. A postcount on its own doesn't say much either. The same with the joining date. But putting everything together and you get a somewhat 'usefull' information about a person. Leaving something out and that 'picture' gets unclear.
quote:Hmmm... dunno, I think I don't agree with this. Not about removing the stars, but about _why_ they should be removed.
Originally posted by saralk
I still think that we should get rid of the stars, they are completely redundant, and potentially dangerous as new member might think they are related to how helpful a user is. As you said, this is a support forum and so people just looking for help might think it has something to do with their seniority in the forum.
I think it is fairly clear what the stars are _not_, as there is a clear reputation field. If the reputation field wasn't there I would have agreed with the 'potentially dangerous for newbies' reasoning.
This said, the stars are (almost!) the same as the user title, so yeah, it's (almost!) double information which could maybe be removed.
quote:No... Things have been removed (like the IP) to preserve space, adding the flag to the bottom is just going to enlarge everything again.
Originally posted by Discrate
quote:Geeze dont get picky! all it needs i think is the flag down the bottom of the info,instead of the middle.
Originally posted by alex
Now that the "Status: Offline" is gone, does it really need to say "Status: Online"? Why not just "Online" or "Away"? =p
quote:Because it also says "joined:", "reputation:", "posts:", etc.... ? consistancy....
Originally posted by alex
Now that the "Status: Offline" is gone, does it really need to say "Status: Online"? Why not just "Online" or "Away"? =p
(removing it wouldn't save space either)
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Atm, it looks extremely well...
WDZ(although, why do some flags have a black border, some a '3D' border and some no border at all. eg: I think the Germany flag looks a bit too much '3D'... compare it the UK flag for example which doesn't have a black border, or even japan........nitpicking I know
)
RE: User's country flag in postbit by NanaFreak on 06-17-2007 at 12:11 PM
i like it now ;o
quote:haha yea... why is that? ¬¬
Originally posted by CookieRevised
(although, why do some flags have a black border, some a '3D' border and some no border at all. eg: I think the Germany flag looks a bit too much '3D'... compare it the UK flag for example which doesn't have a black border, or even japan........nitpicking I know (Smilie))
EDIT: Stars gone!
RE: User's country flag in postbit by Menthix on 06-17-2007 at 12:24 PM
quote:Like removing the stars
Originally posted by WDZ
like possible layout changes, or bugs or something
Maybe we should poll it.And maybe the ASL thing should be above the "Posts:" line, so Posts:, Reputation:, Joined: and Status: are grouped together. I'm not sure if it will look good tough.
RE: User's country flag in postbit by CookieRevised on 06-17-2007 at 12:47 PM
but posts and reps are more dynamic things, they change... age, gender, country, joining date are static things, they don't (aren't supposed to ) change...
EDIT: well, ok, age changes too, but you know what I mean
reps and posts say something about your forum-status, while all the other things says something about your real life.... well... except for joining date .... hmm...well... blah... I give up
EDIT: lol, I actually agree now... ASL above posts
off topic: while wdz is busy changing stuff anyways, maybe remove the ASL emoticon: (?), or change its shortcut to (asl)
RE: User's country flag in postbit by kao on 06-17-2007 at 01:50 PM
quote:
Originally posted by CookieRevised
Because it also says "joined:", "reputation:", "posts:", etc.... ? consistancy....
(removing it wouldn't save space either)
But you need "Posts:" and "Joined:" because without those, the numbers wouldn't clearly be the post count, and the date could be anything (unlikely, but it could), "Online" makes sense on it's own without "Status" being there imo =p
I know it wouldn't save space, that's not why I suggested it, I just think it's not really needed ;p
RE: User's country flag in postbit by EBFL on 06-17-2007 at 01:56 PM
I liked it the way it was before but just add a flag under the original stuff.
RE: User's country flag in postbit by markee on 06-17-2007 at 02:08 PM
I think it is geat, but maybe try it with a pipe (the vertical line symbol for those of you wondering) rather than the slash. This is how other things are broken up on the forum so it would be a bit more fitting (the links up the top and "Thread Mode | Linear Mode", etc down the bottom, above the footer in a thread and then the links in the bottom of the footer...). You could try using [] around the stuff I guess like the "[rules] [smilies]" and with the page selection, but I think that would look ugly.
RE: User's country flag in postbit by ahmetgns on 06-17-2007 at 02:19 PM
Was that a good decision to remove "Status: Offline" when people are offline? Comparing with other forums, this is something odd and visitors may think there is not a Status Indicator for members on this forum. If it shows Status: Online when people are online, it must show Status: Offline when people are offline, in my opinion. I may have been very late to express my opinion, everything has been done
RE: User's country flag in postbit by John Anderton on 06-17-2007 at 02:46 PM
Status Online appears when you're online but the whole thing disappears when you're offline?
That's dodgy Breaks the continuity.
* John Anderton pokes DZ
Btw, the Indian flag is inaccurate The colour of the top band is supposed to be saffron (orange). Its a different shade there.
RE: User's country flag in postbit by J.J on 06-17-2007 at 02:46 PM
IMO the 'Status: Offline' should be put back. I don't see the point in removing it if you're going to keep the online and away status'.
RE: User's country flag in postbit by ahmetgns on 06-17-2007 at 02:51 PM
Yeah, some people agree with me. I have just found a solution. MSN buddy icons for Online and Offline and Away. I think this forum is the exact place to use them as Status Indicators. And we can place it a suitable position to save a line completely from the postbits, not when people are Offline.
RE: User's country flag in postbit by user44571 on 06-17-2007 at 02:52 PM
quote:
Originally posted by ahmetgns
Yeah, some people agree with me. I have just found a solution. MSN buddy icons for Online and Offline and Away. I think this forum is the exact place to use them as Status Indicators. And we can place it a suitable position to save a line completely from the postbits, not when people are Offline.
That would look, so ugly.
RE: User's country flag in postbit by John Anderton on 06-17-2007 at 02:56 PM
quote:Yeah.
Originally posted by Damokun
quote:
Originally posted by ahmetgns
Yeah, some people agree with me. I have just found a solution. MSN buddy icons for Online and Offline and Away. I think this forum is the exact place to use them as Status Indicators. And we can place it a suitable position to save a line completely from the postbits, not when people are Offline.
That would look, so ugly.
Just the Status: On/Offline would be good. It was fine the way it was
RE: User's country flag in postbit by Tasha on 06-17-2007 at 02:57 PM
quote:
Originally posted by Damokun
quote:
Originally posted by ahmetgns
Yeah, some people agree with me. I have just found a solution. MSN buddy icons for Online and Offline and Away. I think this forum is the exact place to use them as Status Indicators. And we can place it a suitable position to save a line completely from the postbits, not when people are Offline.
That would look, so ugly.
I agree, I think there would be too many distracting little images in the postbit then.
RE: RE: User's country flag in postbit by MicroWay on 06-17-2007 at 03:03 PM
quote:
Originally posted by Tasha
quote:
Originally posted by Damokun
quote:
Originally posted by ahmetgns
Yeah, some people agree with me. I have just found a solution. MSN buddy icons for Online and Offline and Away. I think this forum is the exact place to use them as Status Indicators. And we can place it a suitable position to save a line completely from the postbits, not when people are Offline.
That would look, so ugly.
I agree, I think there would be too many distracting little images in the postbit then.
Agree
Also, I agree with the idea to keep the offline status...
Forgot to say (sorry) -> Awsome work!!! Realy nice...
RE: User's country flag in postbit by CookieRevised on 06-17-2007 at 04:18 PM
I like to quote Sunshine from here:
quote:
Originally posted by Sunshine
1) It's "The Netherlands"
2) I also think people should stop abusing the flags and only put in the flag of the country they really live in (seriously stop it, the feature might aswell be taken off if you guys don't use it seriously).
3) And what's up with the UK having several like Welsh and Essex, they aren't countries! Should i request a Frisian flag?
RE: User's country flag in postbit by joey on 06-17-2007 at 04:20 PM
because, england is a country, ales, scotland, and ireland are also countries. Essex on the other hand is only a county...
RE: User's country flag in postbit by Thor on 06-17-2007 at 04:26 PM
quote:
Originally posted by CookieRevised
I like to quote Sunshine from here:
I have to agree about nr. 2, you're not supposed to just pick one for the look of it; it's for the information, not for the "My flag is just soooo much cooler than yours!" competition.
Even though removing it might be slightly drastical.
EDIT: Woops, tsk tsk at quick quote.
RE: User's country flag in postbit by Chris4 on 06-17-2007 at 04:41 PM
Why's everyone talking about Essex? I'm from Essex There's no Essex flag.
RE: RE: User's country flag in postbit by kao on 06-17-2007 at 04:42 PM
quote:I like to quote myself from here
Originally posted by CookieRevised
I like to quote Sunshine from here:
quote:
Originally posted by Sunshine
1) It's "The Netherlands"
2) I also think people should stop abusing the flags and only put in the flag of the country they really live in (seriously stop it, the feature might aswell be taken off if you guys don't use it seriously).
3) And what's up with the UK having several like Welsh and Essex, they aren't countries! Should i request a Frisian flag?
quote:
Originally posted by alex
quote:Wtf, Wales is a country, and there is no flag for Essex anyway, so what's that got to do with anything?
Originally posted by Sunshine
It's The Netherlands!
I also think people should stop abusing the flags and only put in the flag of the country they really live in (seriously stop it, the feature might aswell be taken off if you guys don't use it seriously). And what's up with the UK having several like Welsh and Essex, they aren't countries! Should i request a Frisian flag?
RE: User's country flag in postbit by Dr4g0n on 06-17-2007 at 04:48 PM
Wales most definitely is a country, along with Scotland. =/
They are part of the United Kingdom, just as The Netherlands is a part of the European Union.
Essex is not a country, but as kao said they don't have a flag anyway. =/
RE: User's country flag in postbit by saralk on 06-17-2007 at 04:56 PM
quote:
Originally posted by Dr4g0n
They are part of the United Kingdom, just as The Netherlands is a part of the European Union.
That is a bad comparison, since United Kingdom is part of the EU too.
Also, when people say country, usually they mean soverign state, and neither Wales, nor Scotland are soverign states.
So United Kingdom should be the only flag.
RE: User's country flag in postbit by Dr4g0n on 06-17-2007 at 05:00 PM
quote:
Originally posted by [url=http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_Kingdom
Wikipedia[/url]]The United Kingdom is a constitutional monarchy comprising four constituent countries: England, Scotland, Wales and Northern Ireland.
They are indeed all separate countries, and so have the right to their own flag.
RE: User's country flag in postbit by saralk on 06-17-2007 at 05:06 PM
There should be some common sense applied to everything. Yes technically Wales, Scotland, England and NI are all countries. Just in the same way East germany still exists.
Having Wales, Scotland, England and NI as selectable countries sets a precident. What if members of ETA want the Basque Country as a selectable flag, or someone who has a passport to Sealand wants a flag.
Also, since we are an international forum, more people are going recognise the UK flag, rather than the Welsh flag.
RE: User's country flag in postbit by kao on 06-17-2007 at 05:08 PM
quote:So they can hover over the flag and see what country it is =p
Originally posted by saralk
Also, since we are an international forum, more people are going recognise the UK flag, rather than the Welsh flag.
RE: User's country flag in postbit by saralk on 06-17-2007 at 05:09 PM
quote:
Originally posted by alex
quote:So they can hover over the flag and see what country it is =p
Originally posted by saralk
Also, since we are an international forum, more people are going recognise the UK flag, rather than the Welsh flag.
But still, they may not know what Wales is, they are more likely to know what the United Kingdom is.
What can I say, i'm a unionist
RE: User's country flag in postbit by Adeptus on 06-17-2007 at 05:10 PM
For the purposes of flag display in an international forum, the selection should be limited to internationally recognized independent countries. England and Wales are not on that list and adding them to please the UK citizens here is silly and confusing for others. I for one have never before seen that red crest on white flag; the only flag I associate with those parts has red on blue.
The other problem with this is if you treat non-recognized parts of one country individually, you should do it for all of them, including every piece of every *stan that thinks it should be a country -- and I can't imagine where you will find a person qualified to compile that sort of list.
Edit: if flags of non-countries are allowed, then I demand a Jolly Roger.
RE: User's country flag in postbit by Omar on 06-17-2007 at 05:13 PM
[11:58:43] <&Omar> gotta agree with Adeptus here
[11:59:10] <&Omar> the only representation scotland has is in soccer and log tossing...
RE: User's country flag in postbit by Sunshine on 06-17-2007 at 07:50 PM
quote:Exactly the point i was trying to make. The flags are there for ppl to recognize (in one glance) where a member is from, without having to investigate where f.e. Wales is...
Originally posted by Adeptus
For the purposes of flag display in an international forum, the selection should be limited to internationally recognized independent countries. England and Wales are not on that list and adding them to please the UK citizens here is silly and confusing for others. I for one have never before seen that red crest on white flag; the only flag I associate with those parts has red on blue.
RE: User's country flag in postbit by Rolando on 06-17-2007 at 09:26 PM
nice flags 
RE: User's country flag in postbit by WDZ on 06-17-2007 at 10:47 PM
quote:[offtopic] I changed it to ((?)) quite a while ago, after I saw you mention it.
Originally posted by CookieRevised
off topic: while wdz is busy changing stuff anyways, maybe remove the ASL emoticon: (?), or change its shortcut to (asl)
[/offtopic]quote:The Offline status is completely useless though.
Originally posted by J.J
IMO the 'Status: Offline' should be put back. I don't see the point in removing it if you're going to keep the online and away status'.
A missing "Status" line means the exact same thing as "Status: Offline". It was removed to save a little bit of space.quote:If I added that, then The Netherlands would be listed right under Thailand in the UserCP.
Originally posted by Sunshine
1) It's "The Netherlands"
I could change it to "Netherlands, The" if you want. BTW, the country names I'm using come directly from the official ISO 3166 standard, with only a few minor changes.
quote:Blame famfamfam.com.
3) And what's up with the UK having several like Welsh and Essex, they aren't countries! Should i request a Frisian flag?
Their zip file includes flags for England, Scotland, and Wales. Since we have quite a few members from those places, I thought they would appreciate being able to choose those flags, even though ISO 3166 doesn't consider them countries.
RE: User's country flag in postbit by Voldemort on 06-17-2007 at 10:57 PM
I think only recognized countries should be there .
RE: User's country flag in postbit by L. Coyote on 06-17-2007 at 10:59 PM
quote:FFS, stop fucking complaining!
Originally posted by Voldemort
I think only recognized countries should be there
It seems there's always something left to do, wtf?
Then some will complain that those countries or lands are not in the list...
You won't use them, anyway...
RE: User's country flag in postbit by Chris4 on 06-17-2007 at 11:00 PM
quote:Yes! Don't get rid of the England flag
Originally posted by WDZ
Their zip file includes flags for England, Scotland, and Wales. Since we have quite a few members from those places, I thought they would appreciate being able to choose those flags
.It's fine how it is
.
RE: User's country flag in postbit by Voldemort on 06-17-2007 at 11:01 PM
Yes... they are pretty nice... but most of us don't recognize those flags....
RE: User's country flag in postbit by Chris4 on 06-17-2007 at 11:02 PM
quote:I don't recognise the Mexican flag
Originally posted by Voldemort
Yes... they are pretty nice... but most of us don't recognize those flags....
You can't get rid of all the flags you don't recognise. People are going to come onto the forum and try and find their country flag and it's not going to be there, if we start getting rid of certain flags that aren't "well known".
RE: User's country flag in postbit by L. Coyote on 06-17-2007 at 11:02 PM
quote:Well, that's your problem, not the flag's.
Originally posted by Voldemort
Yes... they are pretty nice... but most of us don't recognize those flags....
quote:Exactly my point.
Originally posted by Chris4
Yes! Don't get rid of the England flag
It's fine how it is
RE: User's country flag in postbit by CookieRevised on 06-17-2007 at 11:03 PM
quote:Actually, comparing it to Europe isn't that bad. It is actually a very close comparisson...
Originally posted by saralk
quote:That is a bad comparison, since United Kingdom is part of the EU too.
Originally posted by Dr4g0n
They are part of the United Kingdom, just as The Netherlands is a part of the European Union.
Also, when people say country, usually they mean soverign state, and neither Wales, nor Scotland are soverign states.
So United Kingdom should be the only flag.
As you said also (which I also agree upon):
quote:
Originally posted by saralk
There should be some common sense applied to everything. Yes technically Wales, Scotland, England and NI are all countries. Just in the same way East germany still exists.
Having Wales, Scotland, England and NI as selectable countries sets a precident. What if members of ETA want the Basque Country as a selectable flag, or someone who has a passport to Sealand wants a flag.
Either you have all the flags like Wales, Scotland, etc, or either you don't.
If the flag of the United Kingdom is selectable so should the European flag, the flag of the former Yugoslavia and the Soviet Union for example. Heck, then I demand the flag for the Benelux too...
Wales, Scotland, etc are constituent countries which make up the United Kingdom. Just as many other countries make up the European Union, the Sovjet Union and the former Yugoslavia. Just as Luxembourg, the Netherlands and Belgium make up the Benelux. And there are probably more....
So, either you have the flags of Wales, etc, and the UK and Europe, Benelux, etc... or either you don't and that would mean you also don't have a flag for the United Kingdom...oh-oooh!!!.
quote:
Originally posted by Adeptus
...adding them to please the UK citizens here is silly and confusing for others....
Best to stick to an international list or something... ISO whatever... those who don't like it can write a letter to the international standard commissions.... What I mean is, it is indeed wrong to treat some people differently than others (because they are nationalistic?), there should be a fixed standard.
(Maybe I am pulling this too far, but still... you all know how much I love standards
)
RE: User's country flag in postbit by Chris4 on 06-17-2007 at 11:08 PM
Uhhhh.. why does everyone have to go against having the English, Wales, etc. flags?
Like WDZ said, that's how the flags came, there's no point in changing it to someone's likeliness. Just leave it how it is.
RE: User's country flag in postbit by Eljay on 06-17-2007 at 11:10 PM
quote:
Originally posted by CookieRevised
So, either you have the flags of Wales, etc, and the UK and Europe, etc... or either you don't and that would mean you also don't have a flag for the United Kingdom!!!.
Actually, if I understood correctly I think Cookie is suggesting removing the United Kingdom flag rather than the individual constituents.
RE: User's country flag in postbit by CookieRevised on 06-17-2007 at 11:13 PM
quote:We don't have something against it. We have something against adding those and not others, or vice versa...
Originally posted by Chris4
Uhhhh.. why does everyone have to go against having the English, Wales, etc. flags?
quote:ermm... "how those flags came"? Those flags are made and added by some people who feel nationalistic (no offense though). It is far from THE official list of flags.
Originally posted by Chris4
Like WDZ said, that's how the flags came, there's no point in changing it to someone's likeliness. Just leave it how it is.
EDIT: famfamfam.com is owned and created by someone living in the UK, so adding those Wales, Scotland, etc flags is understandable and makes sense. Though it is not according to the standard.
quote:yep and actually no...
Originally posted by Eljay
quote:Actually, if I understood correctly I think Cookie is suggesting removing the United Kingdom flag rather than the individual constituents.
Originally posted by Chris4
So, either you have the flags of Wales, etc, and the UK and Europe, etc... or either you don't and that would mean you also don't have a flag for the United Kingdom!!!.
What I mean is that there is currently no clear distinction as to what to add and what not, it has something (but not all) from both; a mismatch if you like.
Personally and to satisfy everybody, you could leave everything like it is, but that should also mean the Europian flag etc should be added.
The point is there should be a standard. Not let's put in 1, 2, 3 but not a, b and c. So you end up with half the alphabet together with half the numbers.
Either you have just the numbers, or either just the alphabet, or either both (which I prefer)... but not just a part of both.
eg: use ISO 3166-1....
ps: the famfamfam.com list does NOT follow that standard, despite what their website says.
PS2: If it is just 'Netherlands' without the 'The' according to the ISO standard then so be it too, imho... didn't knew that btw, always thought it was with 'The'...
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I know many people will roll their eyes reading all this. 'Cause why discussion something like this? And they probably are right... But still... This is the very same discussion as to why adding translation X but not translation Y to Plus!. With the major big difference that this flag feature is brand new and now it is the time to settle this, not after it is 3 years old... So I think a proper decision should be made now (and a proper standard should be followed instead of some loose random list), or such discussions like these will pop up later on again.
RE: User's country flag in postbit by Menthix on 06-17-2007 at 11:37 PM
quote:The European flag also came with the package, WDZ did remove that one... so it's ot like we aren't changing it to someone's likeliness already.
Originally posted by Chris4
why does everyone have to go against having the English, Wales, etc. flags?
Like WDZ said, that's how the flags came, there's no point in changing it to someone's likeliness.
Agreed with Cookie, pick a standard an stick with it, avoids cunfusion and people getting mad for whatever reason.
RE: User's country flag in postbit by Rolando on 06-17-2007 at 11:38 PM
now you're going to fight about the flags showed and not "adding the flags"? ...
RE: RE: User's country flag in postbit by Chris4 on 06-17-2007 at 11:39 PM
quote:Fair enough :-\
Originally posted by MenthiX
quote:The European flag also came with the package, WDZ did remove that one... so it's ot like we aren't changing it to someone's likeliness already.
Originally posted by Chris4
why does everyone have to go against having the English, Wales, etc. flags?
Like WDZ said, that's how the flags came, there's no point in changing it to someone's likeliness.
RE: User's country flag in postbit by Menthix on 06-17-2007 at 11:42 PM
quote:It's not fighting, just a discussion... Don't let the words scare you
Originally posted by q25
now you're going to fight about the flags showed and not "adding the flags"?
.
RE: User's country flag in postbit by Rolando on 06-17-2007 at 11:48 PM
quote:
Originally posted by MenthiX
quote:It's not fighting, just a discussion... Don't let the words scare you
Originally posted by q25
now you're going to fight about the flags showed and not "adding the flags"?
oh no the words
![[Image: zippyah.gif]](http://shoutbox.menthix.net/images/smilies/zippyah.gif)
..No, but seriously, I just don't see the point in this "discussion". Why do you even care about the other flags, Cookie? Don't you've your Belgium one.. geeze.
RE: User's country flag in postbit by CookieRevised on 06-17-2007 at 11:51 PM
quote:This is not about having a flag or not... Well actually it is. IF people from Scotland can have their flag, so can others. If people can have the UK flag, so should people be able to select the flag from Europe, Sovjet Union, etc... It is about having a standard to avoid discussions later on.
Originally posted by q25
No, but seriously, I just don't see the point in this "discussion". Why do you even care about the other flags, Cookie? Don't you've your Belgium one.. geeze.
quote:
Originally posted by CookieRevised
I know many people will roll their eyes reading all this. Because why discussion something like this? And they probably are right... But still...
This is the very same discussion as to why adding translation X but not translation Y to Plus!. With the major big difference that this flag feature is brand new and now it is the time to settle this, not after it is 3 years old... So I think a proper decision should be made now (and a proper standard should be followed instead of some loose random list), or such discussions like these will pop up later on again.
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To make it clear: personally I'm in favor to keep those flags like the ones from Wales, etc... But this also means that other flags should be added upon request like Isle of Man, but also Somaliland and even Tsetsjenia, Palestine(!!), South-Ossentia, Turkish-Cypriots, etc... (which would ring a bell to many people from the conflicts on the news I think) heck... also this big list... As that is the consequence of having Wales, Scotland, etc in the list....
(so don't be mad at me... it is just when you choose B you also should be able to choose C, otherwise simply stick to A
)(for the argument that Wales etc isn't known by some people, but UK is, you could always google it and learn something new
)------
quote:
Originally posted by MenthiX
It's not fighting, just a discussion... Don't let the words scare you
PS: can I 'borrow' that quote
RE: User's country flag in postbit by WDZ on 06-17-2007 at 11:58 PM
quote:You're absolutely right... sticking to the standard is the easiest (and probably best) thing to do... I'm going to remove England, Scotland, and Wales. Sorry to anyone who's already using them. =(
Originally posted by CookieRevised
This is the very same discussion as to why adding translation X but not translation Y to Plus!. With the major big difference that this flag feature is brand new and now it is the time to settle this, not after it is 3 years old... So I think a proper decision should be made now (and a proper standard should be followed instead of some loose random list), or such discussions like these will pop up later on again.
Edit: Done. Anyone using those flags now has the UK flag.
Also, I changed the hyphen for a missing A/S/L field to an endash. I think it looks better.
RE: User's country flag in postbit by Nagamasa on 06-18-2007 at 12:39 AM
quote:Why not just have nothing there so like:
Originally posted by WDZ
Also, I changed the hyphen for a missing A/S/L field to an endash. I think it looks better.
Male / USA for yours
Cause it looks like they forgot to fill it in, rather than that they chose not to.
RE: User's country flag in postbit by Chris4 on 06-18-2007 at 12:59 AM
Just as I thought these flags were great,
they decide to get rid of my country...
RE: User's country flag in postbit by warmth on 06-18-2007 at 01:07 AM
JUST LOVELY!!!
RE: User's country flag in postbit by ShawnZ on 06-18-2007 at 01:51 AM
quote:
Originally posted by saralk
or someone who has a passport to Sealand wants a flag.
i still don't see a problem with ading sealand
RE: User's country flag in postbit by Adeptus on 06-18-2007 at 03:14 AM
This discussion is certainly not intended to challenge anybody's national pride.
However, I think it is reasonable to ask that the flag selection on this international forum is limited to internationally recognised countries.
RE: User's country flag in postbit by EBFL on 06-18-2007 at 08:16 AM
quote:
Originally posted by Chris4
Just as I thought these flags were great,
they decide to get rid of my country...
![[Image: english.flag.gif]](http://vari.blogs.com/blog/images/english.flag.gif)
RE: User's country flag in postbit by joey on 06-18-2007 at 08:34 AM
i dont think we really have to be too specific in the actual country in the UK if you want people to know exactly where you live, you could just add it in the location on your profile, or in the avatar caption =p
RE: User's country flag in postbit by John Anderton on 06-18-2007 at 09:06 AM
Ok since everyone is being so picky about flags, I'd like to quote myself again..
quote:So like the people from Wales want their own flag, I wish mine would be corrected
Originally posted by John Anderton
Btw, the Indian flag is inaccurate (Smilie) The colour of the top band is supposed to be saffron (orange). Its a different shade there. (Smilie)
* John Anderton runs
And of, WDZ, you could add the current time in a country in the flag tooltip if you pleased.
The profile has the offset settings so one could use that to generate the time offset
Or atleast mention the GMT offset of the country in the tool tip
RE: User's country flag in postbit by EBFL on 06-18-2007 at 09:29 AM
Since everyone is complaining why not just go back to how it was originaly without flags
RE: User's country flag in postbit by John Anderton on 06-18-2007 at 09:33 AM
quote:
Originally posted by EBFL
Since everyone is complaining why not just go back to how it was originaly without flags
Yes: 65
No: 7
I don't care: 12
Does that answer your question?
(for the record, I voted for no *cough*)
RE: User's country flag in postbit by joey on 06-18-2007 at 09:33 AM
i honestly can see whats wrong with it. We asked for flags and we got them. i dont get what the problem is now, people are just starting to get picky...=/
RE: User's country flag in postbit by Sunshine on 06-18-2007 at 10:05 AM
quote:I don't have a problem with netherlands in the dropdown list (i see it like that in many places), i just think it be more accurate if it is "The Netherlands" (wich is what one puts when sending mail overhere..not Netherlands..also see WikiMedia - Atlas of The Netherlands wich mentions the Short Name etc.) in the tooltip (*looks at Foaly*)
Originally posted by WDZ
quote:If I added that, then The Netherlands would be listed right under Thailand in the UserCP.
Originally posted by Sunshine
1) It's "The Netherlands"
I could change it to "Netherlands, The" if you want. BTW, the country names I'm using come directly from the official ISO 3166 standard, with only a few minor changes.
Thanks for takin out the non-internationally-recognized flags and for putting the flags in. It's cool to see where people come from at a glance (will also help to remember wich country has wich flag..).
RE: User's country flag in postbit by saralk on 06-18-2007 at 10:51 AM
quote:
Originally posted by ICD
i honestly can see whats wrong with it. We asked for flags and we got them. i dont get what the problem is now, people are just starting to get picky...=/
We weren't being picky, it is just better that we decide now, exactly what the method we use is going to be, and get it right first time.
Then, in about two years, when some new member comes on the forum and says "how come the flag for ______ isn't there" we can refer them to this thread.
Otherwise they'd have a valid reason for wanting their flag on there, which would just be too much work to maintain.
RE: User's country flag in postbit by absorbation on 06-18-2007 at 10:55 AM
Thanks to this new feature I may be able to recognise flags of the world .
I prefer the UK flag to the England one for some reason.
RE: User's country flag in postbit by Matti on 06-18-2007 at 07:08 PM
OOOOH Nice new feature! It immediately drew my attention.
Thank you WDZ!
RE: User's country flag in postbit by Baggins on 06-18-2007 at 07:55 PM
The first thing I noticed today was that you implemented the flags.
This does go against your record of lazyness
RE: User's country flag in postbit by foaly on 06-18-2007 at 10:42 PM
quote:The nicest thing would be showing Netherlands, The in the dropdown and The Netherlands as image tooltip
Originally posted by Sunshine
quote:I don't have a problem with netherlands in the dropdown list (i see it like that in many places), i just think it be more accurate if it is "The Netherlands" (wich is what one puts when sending mail overhere..not Netherlands..also see WikiMedia - Atlas of The Netherlands wich mentions the Short Name etc.) in the tooltip (*looks at Foaly*)
Originally posted by WDZ
quote:If I added that, then The Netherlands would be listed right under Thailand in the UserCP.
Originally posted by Sunshine
1) It's "The Netherlands"
I could change it to "Netherlands, The" if you want. BTW, the country names I'm using come directly from the official ISO 3166 standard, with only a few minor changes.
Yeah I know I'm whining... I should be happy that it doesn't say Holland...
Also as a suggestion: what about linking the image to http://maps.google.com/?q=(countryname) in that case you can actually see where someone comes from
RE: User's country flag in postbit by WDZ on 06-18-2007 at 11:29 PM
quote:Maybe they did forget.
Originally posted by CanadianHero
Cause it looks like they forgot to fill it in, rather than that they chose not to.
I think it's fine the way it is, and having the dash there keeps the width and layout consistent.quote:Oh shush.
Originally posted by EBFL
Since everyone is complaining why not just go back to how it was originaly without flags
quote:Well, with the way I coded the feature, the country names come from the same PHP include file, so they can't be changed individually. I guess I could hack the code to 'fix' that though. Edit: Done.
Originally posted by Sunshine
I don't have a problem with netherlands in the dropdown list (i see it like that in many places), i just think it be more accurate if it is "The Netherlands" (...) in the tooltip
quote:lol.
Originally posted by absorbation
Thanks to this new feature I may be able to recognise flags of the world
quote:I'd prefer a Wikipedia link, as the articles always contain maps plus tons of other info and links.
Originally posted by foaly
Also as a suggestion: what about linking the image to http://maps.google.com/?q=(countryname) in that case you can actually see where someone comes from
I've added it to the profile page only, as I don't like the idea of putting more code (that probably won't be used much) in the postbit.
RE: User's country flag in postbit by lizard.boy on 06-19-2007 at 03:04 AM
<nitpicking> staff list doesn't show flags </nitpicking>
RE: User's country flag in postbit by Pipish on 06-19-2007 at 10:00 AM
wow looks great..nice addition to the site
RE: RE: User's country flag in postbit by J.J on 06-19-2007 at 02:03 PM
quote:
Originally posted by WDZ
quote:The Offline status is completely useless though.
Originally posted by J.J
IMO the 'Status: Offline' should be put back. I don't see the point in removing it if you're going to keep the online and away status'.
I just don't see the point of removing it when its always been there. If it's a saving space thing, then i really don't see how much a big deal it could make. IMO There should be a constant with the status line.
RE: User's country flag in postbit by ahmetgns on 06-19-2007 at 03:27 PM
Sorry for rewriting my opinion here but really it should be considered again.
Status: Online
Status: Away
Status: Offline
If it is talking about statuses, then where is Status: Offline ?
Simply we can get rid off that "Status:" thingy and it would be more sensible.
Online
Away
Again I didn't understand why didn't you like Messenger buddy idea. You may be right in one aspect, that is, we must modify the Away buddy, i.e., for Away icon on the forum, we must insert the clock image on an Offline buddy image
RE: User's country flag in postbit by Oxy on 06-19-2007 at 03:37 PM
quote:
Originally posted by ahmetgns
Simply we can get rid off that "Status:" thingy and it would be more sensible.
Quick, ahmetgns said something, let's all go and point out the mistakes and flame him...
Nah, kidding, i like this idea, dont mind whether it's implemented or not though.
RE: User's country flag in postbit by joey on 06-19-2007 at 03:39 PM
im not too fussed, but it does seem a bit out of place. get rid of the away or something...
RE: User's country flag in postbit by Omar on 06-19-2007 at 03:46 PM
the way it was set up its fine...
Thank you WDZ
RE: User's country flag in postbit by andrey on 06-19-2007 at 03:55 PM
I really don't like the messenger buddy suggestion, that would look really ugly.
But I think that the offline status should be brought back, I really don't think that those 10 pixels make much difference
RE: User's country flag in postbit by rix on 06-19-2007 at 05:43 PM
Hah, this is a very cool feature. What's more, the placement gives a quick and better overview of user's details.
Omar might be a genius.
Omg, there's no Estonian flag!
Can't praise the lord now.
RE: User's country flag in postbit by andrey on 06-19-2007 at 05:54 PM
quote:there is!
Originally posted by rix
Omg, there's no Estonian flag!
![[Image: ee.png]](http://shoutbox.menthix.net/images/flags/ee.png)
RE: User's country flag in postbit by kao on 06-19-2007 at 06:01 PM
quote:
Originally posted by rix
Omg, there's no Estonian flag!
![[Image: ee.JPG]](http://www.dooky.net/pub/ee.JPG)
![[Image: orly.JPG]](http://imatt.us/mt/archives/orly.JPG)
RE: User's country flag in postbit by rix on 06-19-2007 at 06:10 PM
Nobody told me about the adjustments that had to be done in the profile.
The Wikipedia link in the member profile page is also very helpful!
I guess Omar can still be a genius then.
RE: User's country flag in postbit by Nagamasa on 06-19-2007 at 07:31 PM
quote:
Originally posted by andrey
But I think that the offline status should be brought back, I really don't think that those 10 pixels make much difference
Maybe we can just append that to beside the flag?
13 /
/ / On13 /
/ / Off13 /
/ / AwayOr maybe another text other than Away...
RE: User's country flag in postbit by joey on 06-19-2007 at 07:34 PM
i think it would make the postbit look too wide...=/
RE: User's country flag in postbit by Voldemort on 06-19-2007 at 07:37 PM
quote:It would be waay too wide.
Originally posted by CanadianHero
Maybe we can just append that to beside the flag?
13 / / / On
13 / / / Off
13 / / / Away
Or maybe another text other than Away...
Edit: I rock, my post was done at 13:37
RE: User's country flag in postbit by Kenji on 06-19-2007 at 07:42 PM
quote:That is way too long. :/
Originally posted by CanadianHero
quote:
Originally posted by andrey
But I think that the offline status should be brought back, I really don't think that those 10 pixels make much difference
Maybe we can just append that to beside the flag?
13 /
13 /
13 /
Or maybe another text other than Away...
I think the offline status should stay.. Or change the colour of someones name according to their status.
RE: User's country flag in postbit by albert on 06-19-2007 at 07:44 PM
May I just ask why Cookiemarkee's proposition of change the '/' for a '|' did not get accepted?
RE: User's country flag in postbit by joey on 06-19-2007 at 07:45 PM
i like that idea of changing the colour of the name, but what colours? new members will think everyone is a mod or something
quote:
Originally posted by alby
May I just ask why Cookie's proposition of change the '/' for a '|' did not get accepted?
because i think WDZ liked it the way it was
RE: User's country flag in postbit by Zahid™ on 06-19-2007 at 07:49 PM
quote:http://shoutbox.menthix.net/showthread.php?tid=75...d=828642#pid828642
Originally posted by alby
May I just ask why Cookie's proposition of change the '/' for a '|' did not get accepted?
RE: User's country flag in postbit by Nagamasa on 06-19-2007 at 07:56 PM
quote:but nevertheless under the 150px limit on avatars...
Originally posted by Voldemort
It would be waay too wide.
RE: User's country flag in postbit by Voldemort on 06-19-2007 at 08:06 PM
quote:That's the key.
Originally posted by CanadianHero
but nevertheless under the 150px limit on avatars...
RE: User's country flag in postbit by Rolando on 06-19-2007 at 11:55 PM
quote:
Originally posted by ahmetgns
Sorry for rewriting my opinion here but really it should be considered again.
Status: Online
Status: Away
Status: Offline
If it is talking about statuses, then where is Status: Offline ?
Simply we can get rid off that "Status:" thingy and it would be more sensible.
Online
Away
Again I didn't understand why didn't you like Messenger buddy idea. You may be right in one aspect, that is, we must modify the Away buddy, i.e., for Away icon on the forum, we must insert the clock image on an Offline buddy image
that's an awful idea
RE: User's country flag in postbit by Lou on 06-20-2007 at 12:34 AM
quote:I agree. If anything, we don't need bright colours. If it comes back, it should come back exactly as before, but not with bright colours or images or something.
Originally posted by q25
quote:
Originally posted by ahmetgns
Sorry for rewriting my opinion here but really it should be considered again.
Status: Online
Status: Away
Status: Offline
If it is talking about statuses, then where is Status: Offline ?
Simply we can get rid off that "Status:" thingy and it would be more sensible.
Online
Away
Again I didn't understand why didn't you like Messenger buddy idea. You may be right in one aspect, that is, we must modify the Away buddy, i.e., for Away icon on the forum, we must insert the clock image on an Offline buddy image
that's an awful idea
RE: User's country flag in postbit by markee on 06-20-2007 at 01:15 AM
quote:Cookie takes all my credit
Originally posted by alby
May I just ask why Cookie's proposition of change the '/' for a '|' did not get accepted?
I still think it would look better and WDZ's justification wasn't really good enough IMO....
RE: User's country flag in postbit by Rolando on 06-20-2007 at 01:22 AM
quote:
Originally posted by markee
quote:Cookie takes all my credit
Originally posted by alby
May I just ask why Cookie's proposition of change the '/' for a '|' did not get accepted?
I still think it would look better and WDZ's justification wasn't really good enough IMO....
how so? its his decision.. I like the / better too.
RE: User's country flag in postbit by markee on 06-20-2007 at 01:29 AM
But | is used as the separator everywhere else in the theme....
RE: User's country flag in postbit by albert on 06-20-2007 at 01:34 AM
quote:
Originally posted by markee
Cookie takes all my credit (Smilie)
Sorry, my bad, I must have misread that somewhere.
RE: User's country flag in postbit by Nagamasa on 06-20-2007 at 01:59 AM
quote:I don't think he meant to actually have those exact colours used as he could have just not know which colour it is exactly, or was in a hurry.
Originally posted by .Lou
I agree. If anything, we don't need bright colours. If it comes back, it should come back exactly as before, but not with bright colours or images or something.
I think it should come back without the status tag. Agreed (in a way) with ahmetgns
RE: User's country flag in postbit by Felu on 06-20-2007 at 02:49 AM
The Indian flag has Saffron at the top and not orange . Fix it!
![[Image: 125px-Flag_of_India.svg.png]](http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/4/41/Flag_of_India.svg/125px-Flag_of_India.svg.png)
RE: User's country flag in postbit by WDZ on 06-20-2007 at 06:10 AM
quote:So? There are no other separators in the postbit itself, so I doubt many people are going to notice (or care about) that little "inconsistency," and what's wrong with using both characters on the same page anyway? =/
Originally posted by markee
But | is used as the separator everywhere else in the theme....
Click here for another reason why the slash is better.
Perhaps some side-by-side comparisons are needed to settle this?
![[Image: xq4l8ssc-postbit-compare-1.png]](http://shoutbox.menthix.net/files/index.php/dl/xq4l8ssc-postbit-compare-1.png)
![[Image: hh52t0wq-postbit-compare-2.png]](http://shoutbox.menthix.net/files/index.php/dl/hh52t0wq-postbit-compare-2.png)
![[Image: lj9jvnm5-postbit_stir.gif]](http://shoutbox.menthix.net/files/index.php/dl/lj9jvnm5-postbit_stir.gif)
<-- Here's an option I call "stirring the lemonade." Clearly I have gone insane. quote:To whom are you making this demand? ¬¬
Originally posted by Felu
The Indian flag has Saffron at the top and not orange
If I tried to fix it, it would end up looking worse than it does now.
RE: RE: User's country flag in postbit by ahmetgns on 06-20-2007 at 06:28 AM
quote:Why are you so interested in colors? I colored them to have a colorful post
Originally posted by .Lou
quote:I agree. If anything, we don't need bright colours. If it comes back, it should come back exactly as before, but not with bright colours or images or something.
Originally posted by q25
quote:
Originally posted by ahmetgns
Sorry for rewriting my opinion here but really it should be considered again.
Status: Online
Status: Away
Status: Offline
If it is talking about statuses, then where is Status: Offline ?
Simply we can get rid off that "Status:" thingy and it would be more sensible.
Online
Away
Again I didn't understand why didn't you like Messenger buddy idea. You may be right in one aspect, that is, we must modify the Away buddy, i.e., for Away icon on the forum, we must insert the clock image on an Offline buddy image
that's an awful idea
, and I tried to make the colors very close to the exact colors, because if I chose red and blue for instance, then you'd write "why didn't you use original colors for statuses?"
RE: User's country flag in postbit by markee on 06-20-2007 at 07:41 AM
OK, I made a poll about the separator for other people to show their support. Separator: pipe or slash?.
RE: RE: User's country flag in postbit by Felu on 06-20-2007 at 10:02 AM
quote:I demand this to you! I'll search for an Indian flag for that size and let you know
Originally posted by WDZquote:To whom are you making this demand? ¬¬
Originally posted by Felu
The Indian flag has Saffron at the top and not orange
If I tried to fix it, it would end up looking worse than it does now.
.![[Image: in.png]](http://shoutbox.menthix.net/images/flags/in.png)
RE: User's country flag in postbit by Sunshine on 06-20-2007 at 12:40 PM
Yay "The"! Thankies WDZ 
RE: User's country flag in postbit by Mike on 06-20-2007 at 09:29 PM
The messenger buddy icon isn't a bad idea.
It is being used on IPB forums and it doesn't look bad...
![[Image: user-offline.png]](http://mike.thedt.net/images/temp/user-offline.png)
Mike
![[Image: user-online.png]](http://mike.thedt.net/images/temp/user-online.png)
Mike
It doesn't have to be messenger icons...
RE: User's country flag in postbit by WDZ on 06-21-2007 at 01:32 AM
quote:Put that right next to the username? I think it would look crappy with MyBB's centered postbit, because it would throw the name off-center. IPB has a left-aligned postbit like this...
Originally posted by Mike
It is being used on IPB forums and it doesn't look bad...
![[Image: dlqsnbny-ipb_postbit.png]](http://shoutbox.menthix.net/files/index.php/dl/dlqsnbny-ipb_postbit.png)
(Note: The board pictured uses a button in the cell below to display the online/offline status. I edited the buddy icon in manually.)
RE: User's country flag in postbit by joey on 06-21-2007 at 01:43 AM
i dont think it would fit in, or at least would look rather out of place with what we've had over time.
RE: RE: RE: User's country flag in postbit by CookieRevised on 06-21-2007 at 02:15 AM
quote:It was a small goof up. Alby put to wrong name down
Originally posted by markee
quote:Cookie takes all my credit
Originally posted by alby
May I just ask why Cookie's proposition of change the '/' for a '|' did not get accepted?
quote:like this:
Originally posted by Felu
quote:I demand this to you! I'll search for an Indian flag for that size and let you know
Originally posted by WDZquote:To whom are you making this demand? ¬¬
Originally posted by Felu
The Indian flag has Saffron at the top and not orange
If I tried to fix it, it would end up looking worse than it does now.
![[Image: attachment.php?pid=829274]](http://shoutbox.menthix.net/attachment.php?pid=829274)
This matches (more or less) the flag on wiki.
(changes: color balance op the top band shifted to the red)
RE: User's country flag in postbit by Felu on 06-21-2007 at 05:09 AM
quote:Perfect
Originally posted by CookieRevised
like this:?
This matches (more or less) the flag on wiki.
(changes: color balance op the top band shifted to the red)
RE: User's country flag in postbit by WDZ on 06-21-2007 at 06:16 AM
Uploaded. Old version might still be cached, of course.
RE: User's country flag in postbit by Mike on 06-21-2007 at 08:04 AM
quote:Oh, indeed.
Originally posted by WDZ
I think it would look crappy with MyBB's centered postbit, because it would throw the name off-center. IPB has a left-aligned postbit like this...
I forgot about that...
RE: User's country flag in postbit by Spunky on 06-21-2007 at 02:44 PM
Lovin the new flags, but I'm a bit annoyed at being classed as "United Kingdom" as SO many other websites do. I'm not United Kingdom-ish... I'm ENGLISH. We should have seperate flags. IMO it's like putting one flag for the whole of Europe (which I realise as I'm typing actually exists... ).
I want my English flag It's no disrespect to any other countries in the UK, I just don't like you Nah, I'm just kinda patriotic I guess
RE: User's country flag in postbit by markee on 06-21-2007 at 02:52 PM
England, Wales, Scotland and Northern Ireland are like states when you look at Australia and the United States, hence why they should be using the one flag, we have our own for each state but do you hear us complaining and wanting to use it? Just leave it alone.
Furthermore I'd like to point out that it is NOTHING like putting the one flag for all of Europe, doing that would be like using the UN flag for all of those in countries as members. The UK has a united government and a single currency and is run like a single country, not individual countries. I do realise that the whole Commonwealth has the same Queen but it is not the same because the other countries do not have such close ties and are run individually.
RE: User's country flag in postbit by Omar on 06-21-2007 at 03:10 PM
quote:false, Scotland print their own notes...
Originally posted by markee
The UK has a .... single currency
![[Image: 300px-BankScotland50.jpg]](http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/5/53/BankScotland50.jpg/300px-BankScotland50.jpg)
RE: User's country flag in postbit by Menthix on 06-21-2007 at 03:13 PM
quote:Pssst... Euros
Originally posted by markee
The UK has a united government and a single currency
RE: User's country flag in postbit by vaccination on 06-21-2007 at 03:21 PM
Gah! England, Wales and Scotland are all different countries!
RE: User's country flag in postbit by markee on 06-21-2007 at 03:35 PM
quote:Not all of the EU use the Euro though....
Originally posted by MenthiX
quote:Pssst... Euros
Originally posted by markee
The UK has a united government and a single currency
quote:from this wiki:
Originally posted by Omar
quote:false, Scotland print their own notes...
Originally posted by markee
The UK has a .... single currency
quote:And anyway, they are still pounds....
Scottish banknotes are unusual in that they are technically not legal tender anywhere in the UK – not even in Scotland
RE: User's country flag in postbit by ahmetgns on 06-21-2007 at 05:38 PM
WDZ, add a custom flag upload option, then everyone could have their own flags which aren't included in the forum's country list
quote:
Originally posted by andrey
absolutely ridiculous idea
quote:Make sure, I'll come next time with a worse idea.
Originally posted by EBFL
Sorry, but isn't the point of the flags to show what part of the world we live in?
Come on, don't take my suggestion so seriously. I wrote it to extract attention that you can't always satisfy every people on a subject.
RE: User's country flag in postbit by andrey on 06-21-2007 at 05:44 PM
quote:absolutely ridiculous idea
Originally posted by ahmetgns
WDZ, add a custom flag upload option, then everyone could have their own flags which aren't included in the forum's country list
RE: User's country flag in postbit by EBFL on 06-21-2007 at 05:46 PM
quote:Sorry, but isn't the point of the flags to show what part of the world we live in?
Originally posted by ahmetgns
WDZ, add a custom flag upload option, then everyone could have their own flags which aren't included in the forum's country list
and also coz it looks god..
RE: User's country flag in postbit by Vazza on 06-21-2007 at 07:26 PM
Alright guys. I have a feeling that I may get flamed, abused and everything else in between but it has to be said (and yes there are going to be caps at some point so apologises now)
I am COMPLETELY offended that members of this forum, from the UK are EXPECTED to use the union jack. What about those who do not consider that flag to be theirs? For me, I consider the union jack to be BRITISH, and I for one am not British (despite it saying it on my passport)(no offence to anyone who does consider themselves British btw). I am proud to be Scottish and therefore, EXPECT to be able to show this by using the Saltire, as that is the flag of MY COUNTRY but this is not possible as it is not available...
My opinion is that it should have been considered that there would be people who were offended by this, and that the option to show either the Union Jack or THEIR RESPECTIVE COUNTRY should have been made available. Everyone else is able to show their, so why can't members from SCOTLAND, ENGLAND, IRELAND AND WALES?
The only monetary amount of Scottish money that isn't recognised anywhere else is the £1 note. It's only legal in scotland
RE: User's country flag in postbit by Oxy on 06-21-2007 at 07:30 PM
quote:
Originally posted by Vazza
For me, I consider the union jack to be BRITISH, and I for one am not British (despite it saying it on my passport)(no offence to anyone who does consider themselves British btw). I am proud to be Scottish and therefore, EXPECT to be able to show this by using the Saltire, as that is the flag of MY COUNTRY but this is not possible as it is not available...
Agreed, nice sum up there
RE: User's country flag in postbit by joey on 06-21-2007 at 07:32 PM
there's a £1 note?! send me one!
i think you're very right in saying that vazza, it's only fair. i think its crap that people from places like timor leste, who i doubt many people have heard of, get a flag, but we dont. whats up with that?
RE: User's country flag in postbit by Omar on 06-21-2007 at 07:54 PM
quote:
Originally posted by Vazza
I for one am not British
quote:you answered yourself...
Originally posted by Vazza
(despite it saying it on my passport)
i guess now it would be the perfect time to close this subject and end up the bitching from all sides...
RE: User's country flag in postbit by CookieRevised on 06-21-2007 at 08:14 PM
And to add to that: see international standard ISO 3166 for countries.
(it is not that you consider your birthplace a country that it is an international reconized country! A real country is more than the inhabits calling it a country, no matter how proud they might be or how independant they might feel.)
RE: User's country flag in postbit by Voldemort on 06-21-2007 at 08:16 PM
I don't feel mexican, I feel Neolones, can I get my flag too, WDZ?
RE: User's country flag in postbit by Vazza on 06-21-2007 at 08:18 PM
I don't care what the international standard ISO 3166 says. There are still four countries not being represented which have every right to be represented....
so basically, in order for scotland to be recognised, we'd have to be completely independant from everyone else?
You may take our flag, but you'll never take our PRIDE!
Quite frankly, this was a bad idea as you aren't able to please everyone. All the flags should have been included regardless of what any international standard has to say
RE: User's country flag in postbit by Voldemort on 06-21-2007 at 08:23 PM
I may not care either, but it's not up to me to decide and i'm not qualified to declare what's a country and what isn't.
RE: User's country flag in postbit by saralk on 06-21-2007 at 08:40 PM
quote:
Originally posted by Vazza
I don't care what the international standard ISO 3166 says. There are still four countries not being represented which have every right to be represented....
The point is that it sets a precident what if some member of ETA decided that they wanted a Baque flag. Or The Principality of Sealand, or The Confederate States of America.
Eventually there would be loads of flags that really shouldn't be there because they would all say "well if Scotland can have a flag, why can't I, Scotland's government is devolved, and in fact my country has more power then their country, it's not fair blah blah blah"
RE: User's country flag in postbit by wj on 06-21-2007 at 08:40 PM
Just because this has turned into one big argument. Closing the thread.
Just to throw my two cents in. Comparing the US to the UK and how a mailing address is setup:
John Doe
1234 SE Main Street
Portland, Oregon 97214
United States of America
Note that Portland (City), Oregon (State) then Country listed below. Same thing goes for the UK:
Historical Search Room
H M General Register House
2 Princes Street
Edinburgh (City)
Scotland (Province, State, Whatever you want to call it)
United Kingdom (Country)
EH1 3YY
It's just broken down differently. If we are going to break down the UK, you might as well break down the US to the individual states which all have flags.
We'll just stick to the ISO standard for countries.