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Exporting Renamed Contacts? by Zodiak on 06-17-2007 at 11:23 PM

Hello :)

I was wondering if there was anyway to export renamed contacts so that if I format I can get them all back again?

I know you can export the default contacts but I rename all of my contacts so that I know exactly who they are and I would like to retain those after a format.

If anyone can be of help, I would really appreciate it :)


RE: Exporting Renamed Contacts? by ahmetgns on 06-18-2007 at 06:19 PM

Since anyone didn't reply to you, you must know that people on here are waiting you to give more detailed information.

Are you using WLM or MSN Messenger? Which version number?

Are you using Messenger Plus? Are you using Messenger Plus! Live? Which version number?

How did you rename your contacts? Through WLM itself? or through Messenger Plus?

Edit: Zodiak is a silent member, eh? Joined on Aug 2006, first posted on Today.


RE: Exporting Renamed Contacts? by Zodiak on 06-20-2007 at 02:58 AM

Hello!

You are right, I should have given more detail.

I am using Windows Live Messenger 8.1 and Messenger Plus! Live 4.23.0.276

Thank you for helping me! :)


Oh I am sorry. I was sick when I was little and treatments left me with very short-term memory :(

I often forget to check forums frequently unless i have that subscribe to thread option enabled
RE: Exporting Renamed Contacts? by MicroWay on 06-20-2007 at 04:02 AM

quote:
Originally posted by ahmetgns
Since anyone didn't reply to you, you must know that people on here are waiting you to give more detailed information.
Not necessary... People who saw the post, maybe don't know an exactly answer... And it's comom to the first reply for asking more information... (Don't forget that the forum is visited by guests too)
So, Zodiak, don't worry about that...

quote:
Originally posted by Zodiak
Oh I am sorry. I was sick when I was little and treatments left me with very short-term memory :(
I often forget to check forums frequently unless i have that subscribe to thread option enabled
Don't worry about that, Zodiak!!! Members are welcome here, including those who are not "active" on forums.... You can post when you want... (Y)

Now, back on your question: Don't know exactly too, but I don't think is possible to export a renamed contact (as it's).. But, you can try to export the contacts and them see what happens on other account (if you have/can).

I've made a test with a friend.... Both of us have WLM 8.1 and Plus!4.23. On my computer/WLM I added a nick for a contact... Then signed out my account and signed in my account on my friend's computer.
Result: The contact that I had added a nick was appearing with the real name and not as the nick added...
In conclusion: with this test, I believe that the nicks added are stored on your computer (where they were added).... And, as a after-formated computer don't show "pre-formatation" added nicks, I suggest you to try the export opition (but before you format your computer, please ;))...
If doesn't work, and nobody gave another solution, what you can do is to make a list (for example: e-mail - nick added) so you can re-add the nick after formating.. (Yeah, I know this is "boring" if you have lot's of contacts)...

Also, another information: I've looked into Google, but nothing... BUT be free to search there again (maybe I've missed something)...

And, again. be welcomed to the forum!!! ;)

Edit1: Other people, as always, be free to add more info...
Edit2: Sorry about the English... :$ I'm little tired...
RE: RE: Exporting Renamed Contacts? by ahmetgns on 06-20-2007 at 07:16 AM

quote:
Originally posted by MicroWay
Now, back on your question: Don't know exactly too, but I don't think is possible to export a renamed contact (as it's)..
It is possible to export a renamed contact, why not? (MicroWay, I know you didn't mean that), but your nickname won't come to the new Windows Live account when imported, I have tested it, but this test has nothing to do with Zodiak's question.
quote:
Originally posted by MicroWay
I've made a test with a friend.... Both of us have WLM 8.1 and Plus!4.23. On my computer/WLM I added a nick for a contact... Then signed out my account and signed in my account on my friend's computer.
Result: The contact that I had added a nick was appearing with the real name and not as the nick added...
In conclusion: with this test, I believe that the nicks added are stored on your computer (where they were added).... And, as a after-formated computer don't show "pre-formatation" added nicks, I suggest you to try the export opition (but before you format your computer, please ;))...
Signing-in on another computer is something different, exporting contacts (renamed or not) to another Windows Live account is something different. Zodiak, you can format your computer, you won't lose your contacts' added nicknames after the format. The reason is quite simple: Added nicknames are stored on the server side.

MicroWay, why you couldn't see your custom nick for a contact of yours on your friend's computer, maybe your contact's added nickname couldn't be updated on the Messenger server if you changed it and signed out right after the change.
RE: Exporting Renamed Contacts? by trini on 06-20-2007 at 09:20 AM

I've formated more then once ,and always my custom nicknames did appear after format, so there is no need to back up those names.


RE: Exporting Renamed Contacts? by MicroWay on 06-20-2007 at 07:55 PM

quote:
Originally posted by ahmetgns
MicroWay, why you couldn't see your custom nick for a contact of yours on your friend's computer, maybe your contact's added nickname couldn't be updated on the Messenger server if you changed it and signed out right after the change.
Strange, because when I signed back on my computer, the added nickname appeared without problems....

RE: Exporting Renamed Contacts? by ahmetgns on 06-20-2007 at 08:02 PM

quote:
Originally posted by MicroWay
Strange, because when I signed back on my computer, the added nickname appeared without problems....
Actually it is not strange. I sometimes experience this behaviour when I change my display name. For example I change it, use Messenger for a while, then sign out, and then go another computer and sign in but I can't see sometimes my last updated display name on that computer. But when I come back to the former computer, I see my new display name on it. I think it is because when we change it, it can immediately be changed on the cache of Messenger on our computer, but updating server may require some time, I don't know exactly though. I am writing all of these with my experiences while using Messenger.
RE: RE: RE: Exporting Renamed Contacts? by CookieRevised on 06-20-2007 at 11:16 PM

quote:
Originally posted by ahmetgns
Since anyone didn't reply to you, you must know that people on here are waiting you to give more detailed information.
Nobody was waiting...

As Microway said, either people didn't know the correct answer and thus didn't posted (unlike others, right ahmetgns?), or the thread wasn't noticed because newer threads were pushing it further away from the top list...

Bottom line, he didn't had to give any more information. He gave all the info somone needed in order to answer his question!...

quote:
Originally posted by ahmetgns
Are you using WLM or MSN Messenger? Which version number?

Are you using Messenger Plus? Are you using Messenger Plus! Live? Which version number?

How did you rename your contacts? Through WLM itself? or through Messenger Plus?
Not only aren't those questions needed, it is also three times the same question...

quote:
Originally posted by ahmetgns
quote:
Originally posted by MicroWay
Now, back on your question: Don't know exactly too, but I don't think is possible to export a renamed contact (as it's)..
It is possible to export a renamed contact, why not? (MicroWay, I know you didn't mean that)
stop posting if you don't know what you're talking about, djeeez.

it is NOT, I repeat, NOT possible to export renamed contacts AS-IS. Just as Microway said!! And he DID meant what he said.

quote:
Originally posted by ahmetgns
blahblahblah.... I have tested it, but this test has nothing to do with Zodiak's question.

...

Signing-in on another computer is something different, exporting contacts (renamed or not) to another Windows Live account is something different.
It got EVEYRTHING todo with his question.

If you don't understand what is being asked then don't post, ffs.

Zodiak asked a question and he already gave all the info needed to get an answer. All this blahblah wasn't needed at all, a simple:
- if you use MSN Messenger with Plus! 3, do this and if you use WLM with Plus! Live, contact information is already roaming...

That's all.

ffs....
RE: Exporting Renamed Contacts? by ahmetgns on 06-21-2007 at 08:34 AM

If you consider that this thread was on Messenger Plus! Extension Help&Support forum originally, then I might have some right to ask for his exact question. Still I don't think you'll admit that I may have right.

Also if only you always post short replies like "- if you use MSN Messenger with Plus! 3, do this..." which answer only the question which is asked by people when you reply to people here who ask for help.

Edit: Please don't reply to me on this thread any more.


RE: Exporting Renamed Contacts? by CookieRevised on 06-21-2007 at 09:12 AM

quote:
Originally posted by ahmetgns
If you consider that this thread was on Messenger Plus! Extension Help&Support forum originally, then I might have some right to ask for his exact question.
What has that got anything todo with this? Even if this thread was on my toilet paper roll, it wouldn't have changed it one bit.

quote:
Originally posted by ahmetgns
Still I don't think you'll admit that I may have right
1) no you are not.
2) "may have right"? I thought you had [quote:]perfect English skills[endquote].

quote:
Originally posted by ahmetgns
Also if only you always post short replies like "- if you use MSN Messenger with Plus! 3, do this..." which answer only the question which is asked by people when you reply to people here who ask for help.
If only you would only post when you know what you're talking about...

If respected long time members like MicroWay explain something correctly, who are you then to say what they need to do or that they are posting bull shit?

Get your *beeping* head out of your ass and look some things up. If a question requires a detailed post then I write a detailed post, if a question can do with a short answer (like this one) I would write a short answer.

And as a matter of fact, I had this thread marked for answering in my todo list and I already wrote my answer for it. Only to come back to it two days later to see that you posted that totally useless crap, while he could have got his answer in the first reply post.

quote:
Originally posted by ahmetgns
Edit: Please don't reply to me on this thread any more.
fu
RE: Exporting Renamed Contacts? by Zodiak on 06-23-2007 at 01:28 AM

Hello friends!

I am sorry for forgetting again lol. I just formatted :)

I know that you do not lose your contacts on msn, what I mean is that you lose the custom names you asign to them.

Say you know your friend Rob and Joe from somewhere but you always get the two mixed up. You can select one and press F2 to rename him from @%&&#%(&#%)(%&( to Rob and #@$(&% to Joe.

I always rename my contacts and this is what you end up losing when you format your computer that I had wished to keep.

Under my own doing, I did manage to find out how to backup this information, this is for those who are interested in knowing :)

go to your Start Button>type regedit

Now Following the following Path

HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\Patchou

Make sure you have selected the Patchou folder and then go to Fike>Export then save your file as something like MSN Custom Names.reg

When you want to restore all of your custom names, open up Regedit again, go to File and Import your custom reg file :)

Didnt know it was that simple, I am very computer inclined so I managed a solution by myself.

I really appreciate all the help you friends have been giving me

Thank you!


RE: RE: Exporting Renamed Contacts? by CookieRevised on 06-23-2007 at 02:37 AM

quote:
Originally posted by Zodiak
Hello friends!

I am sorry for forgetting again lol. I just formatted :)

I know that you do not lose your contacts on msn, what I mean is that you lose the custom names you asign to them.

Say you know your friend Rob and Joe from somewhere but you always get the two mixed up. You can select one and press F2 to rename him from @%&&#%(&#%)(%&( to Rob and #@$(&% to Joe.

I always rename my contacts and this is what you end up losing when you format your computer that I had wished to keep.
You said you use Windows Live Messenger. This means you also use Messenger Plus! Live.

In Windows Live Messenger (this is version 8 or higher) with Messenger Plus! Live the renaming of contacts is done within Windows Live Messenger, not within Messenger Plus!!

In MSN Messenger (version 7 or below) with Messenger Plus! 3, the renaming of contacts is done by Messenger Plus!.

The contact information, including the nick names you've set, in Windows Live Messenger is handled by Messenger and is roaming. This means that it is stored on the msn servers and that you will NOT loose this information when you login on another computer and/or when you format.

The custom nicknames you've set in MSN Messenger with Messenger Plus! 3, is handled by Messenger Plus! and thus is stored in the registry and can be exported from within Messenger Plus!'s preferences window.


quote:
Originally posted by Zodiak
Under my own doing, I did manage to find out how to backup this information, this is for those who are interested in knowing :)

go to your Start Button>type regedit

Now Following the following Path

HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\Patchou
Wrong...

That information is only for Messenger Plus! 3. Messenger Plus! 3 can only be used with MSN Messenger...

So, backing up that information under that registry key is totally useless if you're using Windows Live Messenger with Messenger Plus! Live....


Moreover, even IF you used MSN Messenger with Messenger Plus! 3 (instead of what you've said before) you do not need to go to the registry to back things up. In Messenger Plus! 3 you can already export all your settings, which include Messenger Plus! 3 custom contact names, from within the preferences screen.



quote:
Originally posted by Zodiak
I really appreciate all the help you friends have been giving me
Too bad you were given very incomplete and confusing information which lead to this post you've made just now....
RE: Exporting Renamed Contacts? by ahmetgns on 06-23-2007 at 07:54 AM

quote:
Originally posted by MicroWay
Anyway.. nice to know this too...
Thanks ahmetgns and trini for the information... :)
Edited because of the next facts...
MicroWay, what are those facts which lead you to strike out those sentences. I would like to know...
quote:
Originally posted by ahmetgns

Zodiak, you can format your computer, you won't lose your contacts' added nicknames after the format. The reason is quite simple: Added nicknames are stored on the server side.
quote:
Originally posted by CookieRevised

- if you use MSN Messenger with Plus! 3, do this and if you use WLM with Plus! Live, contact information is already roaming...
I said that he could format without losing custom nicknames of his contacts.

CookieRevised, you wrote the simple sentence above which you claim it would be sufficient for Zodiak's question. And now you wrote the sentence below. Are you fine? If Zodiak can't understand something if he isn't given the detailed answer (though we don't know yet if he understood your post), is it our fault?
quote:
Too bad you were given very incomplete and confusing information which lead to this post you've made just now....
And I don't always feel myself to have to give the complete info about a subject. My replies target only to the question which is asked here and most of the cases they're sufficient.
RE: Exporting Renamed Contacts? by CookieRevised on 06-23-2007 at 09:11 AM

quote:
Originally posted by ahmetgns
CookieRevised, you wrote the simple sentence above which you claim it would be sufficient for Zodiak's question. And now you wrote the sentence below. Are you fine? If Zodiak can't understand something if he isn't given the detailed answer (though we don't know yet if he understood your post), is it our fault?
Please read my posts properly. Yes, it is your fault. I wrote what I wrote because of all the other posts in this thread. I said a proper answer like that would have been sufficient as a first reply. And my previous posts is very obviously made after he is confused, not before it. :rolleyes::dodgy:

quote:
And I don't always feel myself to have to give the complete info about a subject.
Give proper info or don't post at all. Otherwise you get threads like this.
RE: Exporting Renamed Contacts? by MicroWay on 06-23-2007 at 01:12 PM

quote:
Originally posted by ahmetgns
quote:
Originally posted by MicroWay
Anyway.. nice to know this too...
Thanks ahmetgns and trini for the information... :)
Edited because of the next facts...
Edited again.... ;)
Sorry for my "unthink" thing... :)