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Core 2 Duo ? by Chris4 on 07-05-2007 at 07:33 PM

I'll put this simply so I don't make a fool of myself :tongue:

I'm kind of confused. I'm thinking of buying a new PC and I'm looking at Intel Core 2 Duo processors, I see ones that go from 1.86GHz to 2.67GHz (and probably higher). Why are they only that amount? Is it because the Duo means they are double that? Because I see other computers at 3.0GHz+ ?

Thanks <3


RE: Core 2 Duo ? by NiteMare on 07-05-2007 at 07:39 PM

Nope they go faster, like this,
Linky

or atleast they will be soon


RE: Core 2 Duo ? by absorbation on 07-05-2007 at 07:40 PM

It means your computer will have two processors. They will run at the speeds you buy, but having two is better than one. There is the Core Duo and Core Duo 2. The Core Duo 2 is a more refined release, which uses less power and is more efficient (hence it is more expensive). Intel also produce a quad core as well now :).

Duo Processors do make a difference, you can really tell the difference :P.


RE: Core 2 Duo ? by Dr4g0n on 07-05-2007 at 07:42 PM

Core 2 Duos have two cores in them, so basically you'll get two 2.67GHz processors running in parallel.

e.g
User runs a video conversion on a 3.4GHz processor; it takes 30 minutes, but he can't do anything else whilst running the conversion because his CPU load is at 99%.

User2 runs a video conversion on a 2.6GHz Core 2 Duo; it takes 40 minutes, and he can do everything else he wants to do because Core1 is running at 99% and the other one is free to run whatever he wants.


RE: Core 2 Duo ? by Chris4 on 07-05-2007 at 07:51 PM

Thanks guys, helps a lot (Y)


RE: Core 2 Duo ? by Adeptus on 07-05-2007 at 08:25 PM

About a year ago, I posted a rather lengthy explanation of how two cores affect performance.

I should add that Core 2 Duo in particular, compared to AMD's and earlier Intel CPUs, performs amazingly well.  You can't go wrong with it.


RE: Core 2 Duo ? by ShawnZ on 07-05-2007 at 08:29 PM

Ignore everything you previously based clock speed on. The only reason you see clock speeds like 4ghz on Pentium 4s is because intel doubled NetBurst's pipeline, meaning they could get much higher clock speeds. However, this also means the possible instructions per tick is halved, meaning you would need a 4ghz Pentium 4 to match the performance of most 2ghz AMD processors; and of course, clocking a processor at 4ghz creates heat and power consumption problems, which is why you never saw Pentium 4s outperforming AMD processors. however, with the Core line, intel fixed this issue and now just about every Core 2 Duo processor would wipe the floor with AMD's entire processor market.


RE: Core 2 Duo ? by Chris4 on 07-05-2007 at 08:32 PM

Thanks Adeptus, I read your explaination.

I'll be confident in getting a Core 2 Duo processor now :)


RE: Core 2 Duo ? by Kenji on 07-05-2007 at 08:41 PM

quote:
Originally posted by Dr4g0n
Core 2 Duos have two cores in them, so basically you'll get two 2.67GHz processors running in parallel.

e.g
User runs a video conversion on a 3.4GHz processor; it takes 30 minutes, but he can't do anything else whilst running the conversion because his CPU load is at 99%.

User2 runs a video conversion on a 2.6GHz Core 2 Duo; it takes 40 minutes, and he can do everything else he wants to do because Core1 is running at 99% and the other one is free to run whatever he wants.
Not really :/

A Core 2 Duo beat a single core 3.4GHz CPU at everything...

EG, Here I chose the E6400 2.13GHz and a Pentium 4 3.8GHz CPU, And the Core 2 Duo beats everything in the list.


If I was you, Id defiantly get a Core 2 Duo, you cant go wrong.

EDIT: Im really slow at posting. ¬¬
RE: Core 2 Duo ? by ShawnZ on 07-05-2007 at 08:44 PM

quote:
Originally posted by Dazzy
And the Core 2 Duo beats everything in the list.

yes, but thats just because Core itself is better. a Core 2 Solo would outperform a P4. Also, some of those tests might be multithreaded.

EDIT: you're right though, it wouldn't take 10 extra minutes if you were using a Core instead of a P4. If anything, it would take 10 minutes less. And again, thats if it were just single-core.
RE: Core 2 Duo ? by absorbation on 07-05-2007 at 08:46 PM

Intel Duo processors I believe out perform AMD any day. Intel have really hit a brake-through with this technology :).


RE: Core 2 Duo ? by joey on 07-05-2007 at 08:46 PM

why did i see this coming? a simple thread asking why this was better or how it worked and it turns into all these statistics and figures and comparities against everything else. stop its hurting my head.

but thanks i have leanrt some stuff =p


RE: Core 2 Duo ? by ShawnZ on 07-05-2007 at 08:48 PM

quote:
Originally posted by ICD
why did i see this coming? a simple thread asking why this was better or how it worked and it turns into all these statistics and figures and comparities against everything else. stop its hurting my head.

but thanks i have leanrt some stuff =p

to sum it up:

amd sucks.

:p
RE: Core 2 Duo ? by Chris4 on 07-05-2007 at 08:49 PM

quote:
Originally posted by ICD
a simple thread asking why this was better or how it worked and it turns into all these statistics and figures and comparities against everything else.
Well I'm glad it was said because my computer and my dads computer both are AMD's, so from now on I'll make sure the processor is from Intel :)
RE: Core 2 Duo ? by ShawnZ on 07-05-2007 at 08:51 PM

quote:
Originally posted by Chris4
quote:
Originally posted by ICD
a simple thread asking why this was better or how it worked and it turns into all these statistics and figures and comparities against everything else.
Well I'm glad it was said because my computer and my dads computer both are AMD's, so from now on I'll make sure the processor is from Intel :)

just make sure its not a P4. :p
RE: Core 2 Duo ? by andrewdodd13 on 07-05-2007 at 09:34 PM

Erm, just to point out, that Intel Core 2 Quad processors are out. These aren't really 4 individual cores, they're two dual cores running in tandem. It's hard to explain. Anyway SEE HERE for the current top of the line Intel processor. (I wants me one, but for a full system it's like 6 months pay :p).

You may also notice that AMD processors aren't really clocked above 3.0GHz either. It's something to do with not being able to send impulses any faster, or something.


RE: Core 2 Duo ? by Voldemort on 07-05-2007 at 10:02 PM

quote:
Originally posted by ShawnZ
to sum it up:

amd sucks.
absolutely right.

intels ftw, always.
RE: RE: Core 2 Duo ? by Chris4 on 07-05-2007 at 10:06 PM

quote:
Originally posted by andrewdodd13
Erm, just to point out, that Intel Core 2 Quad processors are out. These aren't really 4 individual cores, they're two dual cores running in tandem. It's hard to explain. Anyway SEE HERE for the current top of the line Intel processor. (I wants me one, but for a full system it's like 6 months pay :p).
Heh, that's cool. Don't think I need one that fast though, I'm sure a Inten Core 2 Duo will be fine, won't it? :) I'm not doing any extreme gaming or anything. :tongue:
RE: Core 2 Duo ? by lizard.boy on 07-05-2007 at 11:41 PM

quote:
Originally posted by Voldemort
quote:
Originally posted by ShawnZ
to sum it up:

amd sucks.
absolutely right.

intels ftw, always.

Lies, AMD's offerings kicked Intel for awhile, but now with C2D Intel is defiantly back on top.

RE: Core 2 Duo ? by Voldemort on 07-06-2007 at 12:00 AM

I would still buy intel even if amd was better... heard some stories from people who do know...


RE: Core 2 Duo ? by vaccination on 07-06-2007 at 08:33 AM

quote:
Originally posted by Chris4
Heh, that's cool. Don't think I need one that fast though, I'm sure a Inten Core 2 Duo will be fine, won't it? :) I'm not doing any extreme gaming or anything. :tongue:
Yeah, you'll be more than happy with a Core 2. (Y)
RE: Core 2 Duo ? by ShawnZ on 07-06-2007 at 10:12 AM

quote:
Originally posted by Chris4
Heh, that's cool. Don't think I need one that fast though, I'm sure a Inten Core 2 Duo will be fine, won't it? :) I'm not doing any extreme gaming or anything. :tongue:

games don't use quad core anyway :p
RE: Core 2 Duo ? by Verte on 07-06-2007 at 10:17 AM

When in doubt, listen to Theo.


RE: Core 2 Duo ? by Jhrono on 07-06-2007 at 05:03 PM

quote:
Originally posted by ShawnZ
games don't use quad core anyway
Yet :p

Go for the Quad dude.. Their price is going to DROP like hell in July 22nd. :) (Q6600 = 266$ by then, right now it costs like 500$)
RE: Core 2 Duo ? by Chris4 on 07-09-2007 at 12:38 AM

Thanks for all your suggestions, Jhrono is helping me out on WLM :P