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Working on the next version by Patchou on 08-17-2007 at 04:20 PM

Hello,

summer is passing by and I just realized that it's been a while since the last news post. For those of you wondering, I'm not spending my days enjoying the sun outside. I enjoy it inside, with my keyboard, working on a new version of Messenger Plus! Live. This version will be a new major update (probably labelled 4.50) and I'm doing my best to make it will be worth its weight of megabytes.

The list of improvements cannot be talked about immediately as many things are still being worked on, however, I can safely say that the update will be released sometime this fall. I'll keep you posted with a screenshot or two when possible. Until then, if you have any good suggestion or ideas to improve Messenger, it's time to talk about them on the forum :-).

Patchou


RE: Working on the next version by Jedimark on 08-17-2007 at 04:24 PM

Don't work too hard - get out and enjoy the sun!!
Looking forward to the new release though :)


RE: Working on the next version by matty on 08-17-2007 at 04:28 PM

I know what some of the features are haha :P.

But that is because Patchy (l) Matty.


RE: Working on the next version by toddy on 08-17-2007 at 04:32 PM

quote:
Originally posted by matty
But that is because Patchy (Smilie) Matty.
are you 2 the next 'craig & john paul' ??
quote:
Originally posted by Patchou
I enjoy it inside, with my keyboard, working on a new version of Messenger Plus! Live
time for a laptop :p?


anyhow Looking forward to the new release


RE: Working on the next version by Thor on 08-17-2007 at 04:40 PM

Nice, nice nice nice. Good work!


RE: Working on the next version by absorbation on 08-17-2007 at 04:42 PM

I was just talking to Dempsey yesterday about how we have had no big features since the first release of Messenger Plus! Live over a year ago now. I Just thought you just spent your days counting your money :P.

Maybe you should open a development blog?


RE: Working on the next version by MicroWay on 08-17-2007 at 05:06 PM

(Y) Cool... I'll be waiting for the news + the update
:)


RE: Working on the next version by warmth on 08-17-2007 at 05:08 PM

Patchou I have 4 suggestions...

1. Compatibility of chat logs with old school tags format: http://shoutbox.menthix.net/showthread.php?tid=72391
2. Please re-add the option to turn off the personalized status messages in convos is very annoying that you have to enter to the MP!L settings to select in a list the people you want or not to send the message...
3. A feature in your contact manager that leave you see who has you in their contact list but you don't have in yours and give them a change to re-add (a buttom to add this kind of contacts)...
4. a kind of ftp or http MP!L settings storage... not only in a file... so you can sync your settings in every place you get coneccted... :$


RE: Working on the next version by Menthix on 08-17-2007 at 05:31 PM

quote:
Originally posted by matty
I know what some of the features are haha
Pfft, same :-#.


Happy coding Patchy! But don't hurt your keyboard too much.
RE: Working on the next version by x2zen on 08-17-2007 at 05:53 PM

Can't wait :D


RE: Working on the next version by ahmetgns on 08-17-2007 at 07:08 PM

When is the fall time in Canada? Don't forget the internationality of Messenger Plus!

For the major update; I liked the new Live version of Plus! after Messenger Plus! 3, yet I am sure I'll again like the new version. I always like changes.


RE: Working on the next version by prashker on 08-17-2007 at 07:14 PM

I know the features too I think, back when you told me at Dinner, but the FREEEEENNNCH scarred me :(.


RE: Working on the next version by Choli on 08-17-2007 at 07:28 PM

quote:
Originally posted by Patchou
I enjoy it inside, with my keyboard
so you finally bougth this keyboard, didn't you?
[Image: colorkeyboardkids-thumb.jpg]

j/k ;) :P

good work patchy, keep it up untill fall :)
RE: Working on the next version by albert on 08-17-2007 at 08:12 PM

quote:
Originally posted by MenthiX
was just talking to Dempsey yesterday about how we have had no big features since the first release of Messenger Plus! Live over a year ago now. I Just thought you just spent your days counting your money .

I can actually join that club for once. I know what 1 new feature is going to be. :D
RE: Working on the next version by MeEtc on 08-17-2007 at 08:26 PM

quote:
Originally posted by albert
I can actually join that club for once. I know what 1 new feature is going to be. :D
* MeEtc is still in the dark :(

just don't go green in the face on us, k?
RE: Working on the next version by joey on 08-17-2007 at 08:28 PM

quote:
Originally posted by MeEtc
quote:
Originally posted by albert
I can actually join that club for once. I know what 1 new feature is going to be. :D
* MeEtc is still in the dark :(


just don't go green in the face on us, k?
seconded.

keep us up-to-date patch. =]
RE: RE: Working on the next version by vikke on 08-17-2007 at 09:34 PM

quote:
Originally posted by Jedimark
Don't work too hard - get out and enjoy the sun!!

While you can. ;)
RE: Working on the next version by NanaFreak on 08-17-2007 at 11:49 PM

cant wait for it patch ;o


RE: Working on the next version by Jhrono on 08-18-2007 at 12:08 AM

quote:
Originally posted by albert
quote:
Originally posted by MenthiX
was just talking to Dempsey yesterday about how we have had no big features since the first release of Messenger Plus! Live over a year ago now. I Just thought you just spent your days counting your money .

I can actually join that club for once. I know what 1 new feature is going to be. :D
Wrong quote btw, absorbation said that :p

Nice Patchou, can't wait to see what's coming :)
RE: Working on the next version by High Speed Chaser on 08-18-2007 at 01:28 AM

I think you should buy a laptop so at least you can enjoy the sun while making plus! I can't wait.

Keep up the good work Patchou!


Any news if there will be new applications to be a tester?
Just asking.


RE: Working on the next version by Matti on 08-18-2007 at 09:47 AM

Enjoy your sunny coding, Patchy, before the next ice age arrives caused by our global warming. (#)
If there's anything I'd like to see being added in Plus!, it'd be the scripting engine. Extend the features and finally give us the control we need to take full advantage of Plus! Live scripts! :)

But most important: Enjoy! ;)


RE: Working on the next version by Chris4 on 08-18-2007 at 10:34 AM

Looking forward to the next version (Y)


RE: Working on the next version by cyberlords on 08-18-2007 at 03:47 PM

god job patchou!


RE: Working on the next version by Eddie on 08-18-2007 at 04:38 PM

Going to be good i hope :) We need a nice release :)

quote:
Originally posted by High Speed Chaser
Any news if there will be new applications to be a tester? Just asking.
Highly Unlikely ;) But who knows.

RE: Working on the next version by Matti on 08-18-2007 at 04:46 PM

quote:
Originally posted by Eddie
Going to be good i hope :) We need a nice release :)
quote:
Originally posted by High Speed Chaser
Any news if there will be new applications to be a tester? Just asking.
Highly Unlikely ;) But who knows.
Well, it's a bigger release (4.20 -> 4.50) so maybe... But let's not hope on it too much.
RE: Working on the next version by Poom on 08-18-2007 at 05:02 PM

I have some suggestions for new features!!

1. How about an incoming message submenu in the conversations tab. In this submenu, you can add actions (sensor/filter, auto-reply) for certain received messages. I find that many of my friends really enjoyed the filtering feature in Plus! 3 and I really love Answering Machine Plus.

2. Allow keyboard shortcuts or other triggers for quick icons.

3. I know this may require a new way to script, like additional tags. The thing is, sometimes I don't know which version of the script I am using and whether it's outdated or not. How about adding a way to check version? An about dialogue about a script would be nice. Yeah, I know it can be implemented, but it's not mandatory. The approach Firefox Extensions use would be nicer, I believe. Also, auto-update would be awesome! Again, a script writer can implement this, but it's better if the feature become standard for all scripts.

4. Zip on-the-fly! I really like this feature Stuffplug had. It doesn't seem like Stuffplug will regain this feature (or even get out of beta -_-"). I find it very useful, especially since WLM 8.5 keeps asking people to scan files like .exe that are transferred.

It would be great if Plus has features from other plugins like Stuffplug or MessengerDiscovery too. Although, I'm not gonna use them much anyways, so I believe that's all I wish to be added.

And... go enjoy the sun!!!


RE: Working on the next version by Bionic on 08-18-2007 at 07:14 PM

Can't wait!!! :D


RE: Working on the next version by profane on 08-18-2007 at 08:09 PM

Few Suggestions Myself....

1. Id like to see what stuffplug did for 7.5 and that is allow bigger sizes of Display Pictures.

2. It would be REALLY nice if you could change the limit of the sounds from 12sec to like maybe 20sec and for the minimum just have it be 10sec, a lot of times i see myself cutting up the sounds into 2 3 or even 4 different parts and its not only time consuming but a real annoyance.


RE: RE: Working on the next version by Patchou on 08-18-2007 at 08:50 PM

quote:
Originally posted by Choli
quote:
Originally posted by Patchou
I enjoy it inside, with my keyboard
so you finally bougth this keyboard, didn't you?
[Image: colorkeyboardkids-thumb.jpg]

Looks like a cool Japanese keyboard. Where can I get one?

As for some of the latest comments: I'm opened to ideas but never when it includes stealing from other add-ons. If it's an improvement over an existing feature of another product, I can consider it but I won't copy stuff as-is.
RE: Working on the next version by toddy on 08-18-2007 at 09:51 PM

keyboard is made by evergreen from what i can see, seem to link to http://www.rakuten.ne.jp/gold/donya/ here to buy one. however haven't actually seen one on there.

another company make a similar one http://www.newstandardkeyboards.com/index.html


RE: Working on the next version by Choli on 08-19-2007 at 12:06 AM

quote:
Originally posted by Patchou
Looks like a cool Japanese keyboard. Where can I get one?
lol, i don't know :P I just googled "enjoy keyboard" in the images of google (here) and it was a picture of the results page ;) Maybe you can find more info here or here :p
RE: Working on the next version by Nagamasa on 08-19-2007 at 03:47 AM

Wow this is great :D

(Though letting us join the beta would be even better :P)


RE: RE: RE: Working on the next version by warmth on 08-19-2007 at 03:26 PM

quote:
Originally posted by Patchou
quote:
Originally posted by Choli
quote:
Originally posted by Patchou
I enjoy it inside, with my keyboard
so you finally bougth this keyboard, didn't you?
[Image: colorkeyboardkids-thumb.jpg]

Looks like a cool Japanese keyboard. Where can I get one?

As for some of the latest comments: I'm opened to ideas but never when it includes stealing from other add-ons. If it's an improvement over an existing feature of another product, I can consider it but I won't copy stuff as-is.

:) any of my ideas are from other plugins/scripts :o)!!!
RE: Working on the next version by FATEx on 08-19-2007 at 03:26 PM

I'd like to be a beta tester of Windows Live Messenger Plus!.

I was a tester of Windows Vista and various Microsoft releases, and submitted few bugs, which assisted the development projects.

-


RE: Working on the next version by Nathan on 08-19-2007 at 03:34 PM

quote:
Originally posted by FATEx
I'd like to be a beta tester of Windows Live Messenger Plus!.

I was a tester of Windows Vista and various Microsoft releases, and submitted few bugs, which assisted the development projects.

-
Tbh really honest, I highly doubt he will add you because you have not been with this community for a long time, he has to trust you.
RE: Working on the next version by Froggle on 08-19-2007 at 03:57 PM

I hope it's possible to add my idea, Patchou. ;)
You know it. (A)


RE: Working on the next version by xJ + on 08-19-2007 at 05:56 PM

Cool! can't wait for the release.

Btw, I used Verisoft Access Manager for some programs and for accessing my Windows account; and just so happen I used it for my WLMsgr. VeriSoft Access Manager will automatically popup when I am about to sign into WLMsgr, that's not a problem. The problem is, whenever I am about to enter the password for accessing the MSG Plus Preferences, VeriSoft Access Manager will always popup as it thinks that it's WLMsgr instead.
Basically, and if it's possible, I'd like to see that program like these (VeriSoft Access Manager) would detect that it's a different program, not just a program that is integrated into the main(another) program.
Hopefully you could understand what I mean.


RE: Working on the next version by Matti on 08-20-2007 at 10:00 AM

Well, xJ+, that'd be rather hard because since MsgPlus! Live 4.00, the loader is a DLL in Windows Live Messenger's program files directory. Before that, MsgPlus.exe was responsible for doing this and thus it might have been possible to do that. But I doubt it's an easy task to do with the current (and better than the old) method. *-)


RE: Working on the next version by FATEx on 08-20-2007 at 01:40 PM

Being an avid reader does not equate to a regular poster of this forum.

It doesn't require me to be socialistic to the community to be able to understand the community, yer?. ;D


RE: Working on the next version by Patchou on 08-20-2007 at 02:18 PM

I'll make a special post if I need additional testers, don't worry about that.

As for your password manager, it probably prompts because it detects a password field. If it cannot make the difference then between two different windows in the same program, it's a limitation of your own software and there's nothing I can do about it.

For all other ideas: I'm taking note of them :).


RE: Working on the next version by MeEtc on 08-20-2007 at 03:04 PM

I have a suggestion to the interface tester, if you want to make an update to that:

When an object is hovered, it would be useful to have a tooltip to display the name of the object that is highlighted.


RE: Working on the next version by FATEx on 08-20-2007 at 03:12 PM

A more detailed icon for Messenger Status such as "Busy" and "In a call", "Out to Lunch", "BRB" and "Away". (:

"In a call": A little grey phone beside the green messenger icon?

"Out to Lunch": A little grey cup of coffee beside the green messenger icon? - Cup of Coffee; (C)



RE: Working on the next version by MeEtc on 08-20-2007 at 03:15 PM

quote:
Originally posted by FATEx
A more detailed icon for Messenger Status such as "Busy" and "In a call", "Out to Lunch", "BRB" and "Away". (:
This is a feature of WLM itself. Unless your contact had MP!L as well, they would not be able to see the icon. Then comes the difficulty of patching the images.

RE: Working on the next version by foaly on 08-20-2007 at 04:10 PM

I don't known if it is even possible but I would like the ability to be able to interact with scripts... (being to call functions off other scripts... things like that...)

btw nice hearing about a new big release :D
can't wait... keep up the good work :)


RE: RE: Working on the next version by felipEx on 08-21-2007 at 01:27 AM

quote:
Originally posted by Jedimark
Don't work too hard - get out and enjoy the sun!!
Looking forward to the new release though :)


x2 ! :D


happy coding Patchy! (Y)

RE: Working on the next version by Dollarius on 08-21-2007 at 09:03 PM

I'm happy that still in summer u are coding for a new version of MsgPlus ;)
As this would be a great release, I'd suggest some improvements:

  1. I'd like to get the Real Name of a contact apper after the nickname we use to give contacts!
    When the contact renaming was a feature by msgplus it was possible! Now I know that is entirely managed by wlm, but if you can get the real name..why can't you add it after the nickname?!
    Ex: My_Nickname_For_The_Contact - Real_Contact_Name - PSM

  2. I think you should add some group features as:
    • "Block all the members of this group" (having memory of members blocked manually, that should have a different blocking priority)
    • "Event Notifications for this group" (having memory of manually set event notifications)
    • "Send an e-mail to this group" (opening the Live Mail client with every contact of that group as recipients)
    • View the group name of the contact we are chatting with in the IM window
    Yes I know, I use contact groups really a lot :P

  3. Process the bbcode also in the text of the psm in the main Wlm window.
    I think should be possible because I've seen once a plugin which made editable the Nickname in the main wlm window. When you clicked on it to modify your nickname, the bbcodes changed to text, then when you finished the edit, bbcodes got processed and the nick was in colour.
    [/list]
    [/list]
    I think are all pretty easy things to do.
    I hope you will take my suggestion into account :)

    Enjoy your coding :D


    *Hm funny! A little bug in mybb! After closing the list, text doesn't go back to the very left :P

RE: Working on the next version by absorbation on 08-22-2007 at 12:03 AM

quote:
Originally posted by Dollarius
I'd like to get the Real Name of a contact apper after the nickname we use to give contacts!

On Patchou's to-do list. The problem is he has to relie heavily on Messenger itself, where it goes he goes. I can imagine him starting a 4 week holiday in the Caribbean and the Messenger team release a new public build :P.

The Messenger team have been lazy with the API since they made Windows Live Messenger and have not made a function to get a contacts nickname, something which I find frustrating when using Plus! and I don't know who anyone is.
RE: Working on the next version by markee on 08-22-2007 at 12:11 AM

Dolarius: for the first points please read Read first! Messenger Plus! Live FAQ.  For the second that's because of the difficulty of using groups with WLM, noone has really found a good way of doing it to my knowledge and hence Patchou has not implemented the feature. And for your third have a look at Patchou's reply to Idea for a future version?.  I hope this gives you all the information you need.


RE: Working on the next version by Salem on 08-22-2007 at 04:46 PM

Great news Patch. Looking forward to the new release


RE: Working on the next version by slipknot33 on 08-23-2007 at 04:51 AM

How about adding chat rooms?


RE: Working on the next version by Fanta on 08-23-2007 at 09:15 PM

^o)  I fail to see the connection with chatrooms to be honest.


Patchie a vampire? I didnt know that! *adds to fact book*

Happy coding, I've already bugged you with everything I wanted in earlier releases so I have nothing to bug you with now sadly


RE: Working on the next version by DXtremz on 08-24-2007 at 01:57 AM

Don'tcha wanna...Fanta...:banana:


RE: Working on the next version by fguitton on 08-24-2007 at 11:34 AM

Hello Everybody !
First, I wich you a good pleasure party in developpment Patchou, your work is surprising.

Well, I've two ideas to submit ( not mine, but I find them so interesting )

1. Like in StuffPlug and said here :
http://shoutbox.menthix.net/showthread.php?tid=76973
The possibility to put a nickname for Messenger and a nickname for conversations.

2. A means, by a native script function or and other thing to pick-out of the header conversation some informations like the font use ( color, type, ... ) by the contact. View in the post :
http://shoutbox.menthix.net/showthread.php?tid=63973

Now has to say a big thanks and sorry for my poor
english.
Have a nice day and good sun bath !

Flo


RE: Working on the next version by Zahid™ on 08-24-2007 at 03:28 PM

quote:
Originally posted by fguitton
1. Like in StuffPlug and said here :
http://shoutbox.menthix.net/showthread.php?tid=76973
The possibility to put a nickname for Messenger and a nickname for conversations.
quote:
Originally posted by Patcou
As for some of the latest comments: I'm opened to ideas but never when it includes stealing from other add-ons.

RE: Working on the next version by warmth on 08-24-2007 at 05:02 PM

@Patchou: do you have find a way to show PSM formated??? I have read several time that this is a limitation... but don't you think there is anyway to do it??? any any???

and how about FTP feature to save or load a file that keeps your MP!L settings??? I'm suggesting this cause I connect at work, at home, at my laptop, etc... and I'm kind of tired of have to import/export the settings in all the pcs each time I do a change in my settings :(!!!

@Zahid™: I don't think that SP is going to be developed anymore... so I don't see the problem to intregrate an abandoned project with MP!L... obviously with the permission of TheBlasphemer...


RE: RE: Working on the next version by deAd on 08-24-2007 at 05:15 PM

quote:
Originally posted by warmth
@Zahid™: I don't think that SP is going to be developed anymore... so I don't see the problem to intregrate an abandoned project with MP!L... obviously with the permission of TheBlasphemer...

SP3 is not abandoned, the developers have just been busy lately :p
RE: RE: RE: Working on the next version by warmth on 08-24-2007 at 05:32 PM

quote:
Originally posted by deAd
quote:
Originally posted by warmth
@Zahid™: I don't think that SP is going to be developed anymore... so I don't see the problem to intregrate an abandoned project with MP!L... obviously with the permission of TheBlasphemer...

SP3 is not abandoned, the developers have just been busy lately :p

jajajaja come on deAd... they are more dead than busy jajajaja!!! like 4 month without any news nor post... (N)*-)
RE: Working on the next version by MeEtc on 08-24-2007 at 05:53 PM

quote:
Originally posted by warmth
and how about FTP feature to save or load a file that keeps your MP!L settings??? I'm suggesting this cause I connect at work, at home, at my laptop, etc... and I'm kind of tired of have to import/export the settings in all the pcs each time I do a change in my settings :(!!!
sounds like a good script idea to me

RE: Working on the next version by toddy on 08-24-2007 at 05:54 PM

quote:
Originally posted by warmth
jajajaja come on deAd... they are more dead than busy jajajaja!!! like 4 month without any news nor post... (N)*-)
people do have lifes/work/uni to attend to. yes maybe a post of 2 may have been nice. but sometimes theres more important things in life then a plugin
RE: RE: Working on the next version by warmth on 08-24-2007 at 06:05 PM

quote:
Originally posted by toddy
quote:
Originally posted by warmth
jajajaja come on deAd... they are more dead than busy jajajaja!!! like 4 month without any news nor post... (N)*-)
people do have lifes/work/uni to attend to. yes maybe a post of 2 may have been nice. but sometimes theres more important things in life then a plugin

4 month??? :-# what a big family must they have!!! birthdays everyday :o)!!!
RE: Working on the next version by Menthix on 08-24-2007 at 06:07 PM

quote:
Originally posted by warmth
like 4 month without any news nor post
Patchou was missing in action longer than that after v1.42 with people thinking it was dead too... Look where Plus! is today :p.
RE: Working on the next version by toddy on 08-24-2007 at 06:24 PM

quote:
Originally posted by warmth
4 month??? :-# what a big family must they have!!! birthdays everyday :o)!!!
wtf has family got to do with anything :-\   ¬_¬

i said people sometimes have bigger things in life then a plugin for messenger at time. eg uni work, work, social life

iirc, TB is at uni now, so will have lots of uni work and stuff to do, then theres the drinking and partying to do. so that'll be most of his time taken up
RE: Working on the next version by fguitton on 08-24-2007 at 06:24 PM

@Zahid™ --> Sorry, but I had jumped this post to the reading !

Then, I noticed that there are a
"OnEvent_ContactMediaChange" function, a
"OnEvent_ContactNameChange" function ... but there is no
"OnEvent_ContactImageChange" function.
That could be an additional idea ?

Good evening everyone (Well, ... in France ^^ )


RE: Working on the next version by warmth on 08-24-2007 at 06:38 PM

quote:
Originally posted by toddy
quote:
Originally posted by warmth
4 month??? :-# what a big family must they have!!! birthdays everyday :o)!!!
wtf has family got to do with anything :-\   ¬_¬

i said people sometimes have bigger things in life then a plugin for messenger at time. eg uni work, work, social life

iirc, TB is at uni now, so will have lots of uni work and stuff to do, then theres the drinking and partying to do. so that'll be most of his time taken up
I'm just kiddin mate... chill out!!! I know all that I am in university too and working in a robot for a petroleum company (G&E oil and gas) for pipe inspection... but I actually can save time for other thing... more to thing I PROMISE to do ;) and that people is waiting for... and he did that before... but now??? that's why I assumed that he abandoned the project of the new release... but I am not judging him... :S chill out mate... jajajaja!!!!!!! you are reacting like I would had offended your mother... come dude ;)!!!
RE: RE: Working on the next version by Salem on 08-24-2007 at 07:03 PM

quote:
Originally posted by toddy
quote:
Originally posted by warmth
jajajaja come on deAd... they are more dead than busy jajajaja!!! like 4 month without any news nor post... (N)*-)
people do have lifes/work/uni to attend to. yes maybe a post of 2 may have been nice. but sometimes theres more important things in life then a plugin


My thoughts exactly.

People need to understand that the developers (TB for StuffPlug & Patchou for MP!L) are creating these add-ons volunterily. It is not there job which they are paid to do. They are doing it in their spare time.
RE: Working on the next version by warmth on 08-24-2007 at 07:16 PM

quote:
Originally posted by Salem
They are doing it in their spare time
I already now that Salem... I don't understand all the problem you guys made of my coments about my opinion about the abandoned project of the next release of SP :S!!! is just my opinion for the very long time without a simple post in the SP forum... can you respect my opinion??? I am not judging nor forcing anybody here to think as me or TB to do the release right now... I am just giving here my opinion that if he can follow his project maybe Patchou can integrate his option with his approval to MP!L... THAT'S ALL!!! I don't see the problem!!!

RE: Working on the next version by Rolando on 08-24-2007 at 09:56 PM

quote:
Originally posted by warmth
quote:
Originally posted by toddy
quote:
Originally posted by warmth
4 month??? :-# what a big family must they have!!! birthdays everyday :o)!!!
wtf has family got to do with anything :-\   ¬_¬

i said people sometimes have bigger things in life then a plugin for messenger at time. eg uni work, work, social life

iirc, TB is at uni now, so will have lots of uni work and stuff to do, then theres the drinking and partying to do. so that'll be most of his time taken up
I'm just kiddin mate... chill out!!! I know all that I am in university too and working in a robot for a petroleum company (G&E oil and gas) for pipe inspection... but I actually can save time for other thing... more to thing I PROMISE to do ;) and that people is waiting for... and he did that before... but now??? that's why I assumed that he abandoned the project of the new release... but I am not judging him... :S chill out mate... jajajaja!!!!!!! you are reacting like I would had offended your mother... come dude ;)!!!

then save time and money for some English lessons.. because your English is deplorable.
RE: RE: Working on the next version by Salem on 08-24-2007 at 10:20 PM

quote:
Originally posted by warmth
quote:
Originally posted by Salem
They are doing it in their spare time
I already now that Salem... I don't understand all the problem you guys made of my coments about my opinion about the abandoned project of the next release of SP :S!!! is just my opinion for the very long time without a simple post in the SP forum... can you respect my opinion??? I am not judging nor forcing anybody here to think as me or TB to do the release right now... I am just giving here my opinion that if he can follow his project maybe Patchou can integrate his option with his approval to MP!L... THAT'S ALL!!! I don't see the problem!!!

Hi Warmth

I understand that it is your opinion. All i was trying to point out was that we should be patient as the developers also have lives and that they are developing these add-ons out of the goodness of thier hearts. Thats all i was trying to say. I did not mean to make it sound as if i do not respect your opinion.

Patchou: I just had two thought of something i'd like to see in MP!L 4.50.

  • I'm not sure if this is by design, a bug or a limitation but...I use the Desktop Contacts feature and have them stacked vertically on the right-hand edge of my screen. I lock the position of all my desktop contacts to prevent them from being accidently moved, but when ever my screen resolution changes (like when playing a game which changes the resolution) my desktop contacts all get moved to the top left of the screen with one over another. Resulting in me having to remove the desktop contacts to their desired location on my desktop. The has started to become quite annoying and i've therefore stopped using this feature as im tired of having to always re-move my desktop contacts after playing a game.

    Could this be fixed?
  • It would be amazing if MP!L could have the ability to back-up WLM content (emoticons, dynami display pictures etc.). I know there are tools available but it'd be great if this could be integrated into MP!L. I also know this may not be possible for legal reasons, but i thought i'd suggest it anyway.

~Salem(@)
RE: RE: RE: Working on the next version by warmth on 08-24-2007 at 11:13 PM

quote:
Originally posted by q25
then save time and money for some English lessons.. because your English is deplorable.
Guess what??? In my work I only need to understand english... I pay people like you to translate what I have to said... so study a lot cause I must assume that write in english is what let you leave!!! you AH (H)!!!

quote:
Originally posted by Salem
Hi Warmth

I understand that it is your opinion. All i was trying to point out was that we should be patient as the developers also have lives and that they are developing these add-ons out of the goodness of thier hearts. Thats all i was trying to say. I did not mean to make it sound as if i do not respect your opinion.

~Salem(@)

Thanks mate for make this clear... I misundertood your words... sorry about it... (Y)
RE: RE: RE: RE: Working on the next version by Salem on 08-25-2007 at 09:08 AM

quote:
Originally posted by warmth
quote:
Originally posted by Salem
I understand that it is your opinion. All i was trying to point out was that we should be patient as the developers also have lives and that they are developing these add-ons out of the goodness of thier hearts. Thats all i was trying to say. I did not mean to make it sound as if i do not respect your opinion.

Thanks mate for make this clear... I misundertood your words... sorry about it... (Y)


No problem, glad we cleared that up and could have come to an understanding.

quote:
Originally posted by warmth
quote:
Originally posted by q25
then save time and money for some English lessons.. because your English is deplorable.
Guess what??? In my work I only need to understand english... I pay people like you to translate what I have to said... so study a lot cause I must assume that write in english is what let you leave!!! you AH (H)!!!


Could i please suggest that we drop this thing about someones language skills to prevent this thread from going off topic and from starting a flaming war.


Patchou: Just thought of another feature 'd like to see in MP!L

  • I'd lke to  see an improved contact export feature to the one offered by WLM

    Currently WLM only exports the contacts IM address. What i'd like to see is for the export to also export the groups which the contacts are in and, if possible, the contacts custom name as well.

Im not sure if this is possible at all but i hope that if it is you'll consider this functionality for 4.50 (or future versions).

Also, Patch, did you get my email from last week about a bug one of my contacts had reported?

~Salem(@)
RE: Working on the next version by Ahmad on 08-25-2007 at 10:25 AM

The MP!L Chat Log Viewer seems a bit "heavy". It takes it's time opening up (core2duo/2gb ram) for being just a chat log viewer. I hope you can improve that part of the program to be more snappy.


RE: Working on the next version by Nathan on 08-25-2007 at 10:31 AM

It will be slow if it has a high decryption bit. The lower the decryption bit the quicker it will be, and vice versa :)


RE: RE: RE: RE: RE: Working on the next version by warmth on 08-25-2007 at 03:58 PM

quote:
Originally posted by Salem
Could i please suggest that we drop this thing about someones language skills to prevent this thread from going off topic and from starting a flaming war.

Done!!! :-#

@Patchou: Would be LOVELY an improvement for debugging MP!L and Scripts...
My suggestion is a very easy way to report bugs... I adviced this as an script but someone told me that was easier coming from the core of MP!L

http://shoutbox.menthix.net/showthread.php?tid=70...d=772549#pid772549

Look the thread I think you can easy understand my point... If you can't... just ask me... :D!!!
RE: RE: RE: Working on the next version by vikke on 08-25-2007 at 10:04 PM

quote:
Originally posted by Salem
quote:
Originally posted by toddy
quote:
Originally posted by warmth
jajajaja come on deAd... they are more dead than busy jajajaja!!! like 4 month without any news nor post... (N)*-)
people do have lifes/work/uni to attend to. yes maybe a post of 2 may have been nice. but sometimes theres more important things in life then a plugin


My thoughts exactly.

People need to understand that the developers (TB for StuffPlug & Patchou for MP!L) are creating these add-ons volunterily. It is not there job which they are paid to do. They are doing it in their spare time.

Patchou gets paid for the adware included?
RE: Working on the next version by Nunupuff on 08-26-2007 at 11:15 AM

Hey!

Well, I was wondering if you could make something for personalising the sound for when you receive a message from certain contacts, like you have for sign on and stuff.

Otherwise, thanks for the awesome application :)


RE: Working on the next version by guanako on 08-30-2007 at 06:24 PM

i think it would be really useful to add more options to desktop contacs like being able to drag all of them at the same time, not so fun to move like 15 of them one by one. and maybe drag and drop them on the desktop, to avoid 'right click>Messenger plus! features...'


RE: Working on the next version by -dt- on 08-31-2007 at 02:29 AM

:D Im looking foward to the new version.

One feature i would love (and it was suggested a while ago, but ill be dammed if i could find the thread) is the ability to send a message locally to the msn window, so the message just "echos" and only the local user can see it.

it would be useful for script error messages and such eg
you type /moo
and if an error happens the person may just MessageBox to display the error, or use chatwnd.SendMessage

if this feature was implemented then you could use it just like chatwnd.Sendmessage, but the message wouldnt be sent to the remote contact :)

* -dt- runs back to his text editor....


RE: Working on the next version by Voldemort on 08-31-2007 at 02:44 AM

i suggested it, patch said a similar feature would come.....

quote:
Originally posted by -dt-
One feature i would love (and it was suggested a while ago, but ill be dammed if i could find the thread) is the ability to send a message locally to the msn window, so the message just "echos" and only the local user can see it.

it would be useful for script error messages and such eg
you type /moo
and if an error happens the person may just MessageBox to display the error, or use chatwnd.SendMessage

RE: Working on the next version by ahmetgns on 08-31-2007 at 07:22 AM

quote:
Originally posted by Salem
Patchou: Just thought of another feature 'd like to see in MP!L

  • I'd lke to  see an improved contact export feature to the one offered by WLM

    Currently WLM only exports the contacts IM address. What i'd like to see is for the export to also export the groups which the contacts are in and, if possible, the contacts custom name as well.

Im not sure if this is possible at all but i hope that if it is you'll consider this functionality for 4.50 (or future versions).
~Salem(@)
What you demand are already limitations of MP!L. I mean, MP!L can't read contacts' groups and custom names for the time being due to WLM's API. So I don't think it will be possible unless WLM team change their coding.
quote:
Originally posted by warmth

@Patchou: Would be LOVELY an improvement for debugging MP!L and Scripts...
My suggestion is a very easy way to report bugs... I adviced this as an script but someone told me that was easier coming from the core of MP!L

http://shoutbox.menthix.net/showthread.php?tid=70...d=772549#pid772549

Look the thread I think you can easy understand my point... If you can't... just ask me... :D!!!

It may be useful for the beta stage but for the public release I don't think it will be good for the public release because public releases must be supposed to be free from bugs. MP!L is an add-on for fun and usefulness but adding that feature may mean as if MP!L has always some bugs to fix and people are supposed to find and report them.
RE: Working on the next version by markee on 08-31-2007 at 07:23 AM

quote:
Originally posted by -dt-
:D Im looking foward to the new version.

One feature i would love (and it was suggested a while ago, but ill be dammed if i could find the thread) is the ability to send a message locally to the msn window, so the message just "echos" and only the local user can see it.

it would be useful for script error messages and such eg
you type /moo
and if an error happens the person may just MessageBox to display the error, or use chatwnd.SendMessage

if this feature was implemented then you could use it just like chatwnd.Sendmessage, but the message wouldnt be sent to the remote contact :)

* -dt- runs back to his text editor....
I think there was also a thread which TheSteve posted in about how the functionality is possible to just write in the Control that holds the chat even though it says that it is read only.

If you want to take a read, have a look at chat window's history control interaction-advance scripting.
RE: RE: Working on the next version by Salem on 08-31-2007 at 08:37 AM

quote:
Originally posted by ahmetgns
quote:
Originally posted by Salem
Patchou: Just thought of another feature 'd like to see in MP!L

  • I'd lke to  see an improved contact export feature to the one offered by WLM

    Currently WLM only exports the contacts IM address. What i'd like to see is for the export to also export the groups which the contacts are in and, if possible, the contacts custom name as well.

Im not sure if this is possible at all but i hope that if it is you'll consider this functionality for 4.50 (or future versions).
~Salem(@)
What you demand are already limitations of MP!L. I mean, MP!L can't read contacts' groups and custom names for the time being due to WLM's API. So I don't think it will be possible unless WLM team change their coding.


Yeh i thought that it may not be fully possible do to the APIs (as with MP!L not being able to read the WLM nicknames), but as i wasn't sure i thought i'd suggest it anyway.
RE: Working on the next version by Keikonium on 09-01-2007 at 09:02 PM

Awesome, looking forward to the new release sometime in the next few months ^__^! It's been pretty damn hot here in Canada for a while, so I don't blame you for staying inside haha.

Anyways, I have a few requests for the next Messenger Plus version:

Desktop Contacts are a great feature I have enjoyed since they were introduced. But not to much has been done or improved with them unfortunately. So I have a few requests for features I would enjoy having:

  • The ability to drag a contact from the contact list onto the desktop and it creates a desktop contact.
  • Have fully transparent desktop contacts. So there is no border, and no background. Only the little messenger buddy and the name are visible. And upon hover, a small | (line) could show up on the far left and right where the bounding box ends so people know where to click to stretch the contact if needed.
  • The ability to customize the entire desktop contact with an image set as the background, or the entire thing a custom image.
  • A snap and drag feature would be nice. The contacts already snap to each other and the desktop sides, but maybe once that is done, holding in shift and dragging just one, would drag any that are snapped to it? That'd be awesome.
  • In the right click menu of the desktop contact a "Send E-mail" would be a nice addition.
  • Another great addition to the right click menu would be quick access to transparency, border color, and background color. Have a few set colors, and then a "More..." option where it would pop up with a color picker. This would be better than going into display settings all the time.
  • An option to "attach" the desktop contact to the taskbar would be amazing! What I mean by this is having just the buddy icon and the name down in the taskbar where programs are and such.

As you can see, I have lots of ideas for the desktop contacts, but I have some random ideas for other stuff also:

  • A dashboard icon editor. The ability to reorder the icons, remove some (but beable to bring them back later), and mayeb even add icons that will launch programs/web links off your computer.
  • I know stuffplug has this, but maybe being able to choose the default browser instead of always using IE would be nice. I know you said you wouldn't copy features directly, but I just thought I'd toss this out there cause maybe you could make it better? The stuffplug one shows a loading screen in the browser instead of the page right away.
  • One thing that keeps me from using colored names is that my contacts WITHOUT plus see the bbcode. Is it possible to ping contacts, find out if they have plus, and if the ping returns false, strip the bbcode from my name? That'd be great :).

Thats all I can think of for now :). If anything gets added, that'd be awesome. Good luck with the new version of Plus! (Y)

RE: Working on the next version by Xaps on 09-02-2007 at 01:27 AM

I have some requests too. I find them useful, but some of them can be very hard to achieve... But here they are:

1 - The ability of removing the message that warns your contact that you have a webcam...


2 - Bigger display pictures (max 250px X 250px or 300px x 300px) or

2.1 - The ability of showing animated gifs on the display picture (considering that we can't do flash contents)


3 - Put an option to block the "nudge" feature or just put a user-custom message to show that your contact wants attention (someting like "(contact) is trying to get your attention" or "(contact) is annoying you" ).


4 - The ability of using my default browser instead of IE (everytime I have to copy and paste the link on Mozilla Firefox)


5 - It would be nice to put a confirmation code when sending links. There are too many MSN Worms that are spreading very easily, sending automatic messages with a link containing a worm


6 - The ability of showing diferent nicknames to different contacts (or groups)


7 - Finding a way to restrict very sudden "online/appear offline" changes (like putting a 15 second wait to go online again). It would help to prevent the "Status Bombing" (when a person changes it state from online to offline and back to online again,  making the alert window show up and disturbing people)


8 - Custom sidetabs (it would be cool to have google.com on my sidetabs)


9 - Bigger emoticons (100 px X 100 px)


10 - Can you people develop a new file transfer method? WLM's method is sooo slow compared to ICQ and Skype's method (ICQ even resumes broken downloads and it uses a nice part of my internet band. I can get a file of 30MB in 10-15 minutes on ICQ against almost 30 minutes on WLM).


I think that's all... I'll let you know if more ideas show up...


RE: Working on the next version by Lou on 09-02-2007 at 03:23 AM

quote:
Originally posted by Keikonium
The ability to drag a contact from the contact list onto the desktop and it creates a desktop contact.
That was already suggested, and Patchou said it would be hard to not have it interfere with WLM's drag and drop from one group to another.
quote:
Originally posted by Keikonium
A snap and drag feature would be nice. The contacts already snap to each other and the desktop sides, but maybe once that is done, holding in shift and dragging just one, would drag any that are snapped to it? That'd be awesome.
That would be a nice way to implement it.
quote:
Originally posted by Keikonium
One thing that keeps me from using colored names is that my contacts WITHOUT plus see the bbcode. Is it possible to ping contacts, find out if they have plus, and if the ping returns false, strip the bbcode from my name? That'd be great
That would mean spamming each one of your contacts with ping, and they'll not like that a lot. I'm sure that won't be implemented.
quote:
Originally posted by Xaps
Bigger display pictures (max 250px X 250px or 300px x 300px)
The idea is already present elsewhere (stuffplug), Patchou won't use it.
quote:
Originally posted by Xaps
The ability of showing animated gifs on the display picture (considering that we can't do flash contents)

They won't show to anybody not using Plus!, so I doubt that'll be implemented.
quote:
Originally posted by Xaps
The ability of using my default browser instead of IE (everytime I have to copy and paste the link on Mozilla Firefox)
The idea is already present elsewhere (stuffplug), Patchou won't use it.
quote:
Originally posted by Xaps
Bigger emoticons (100 px X 100 px)
The idea is already present elsewhere (stuffplug), Patchou won't use it.
quote:
Originally posted by Xaps
Can you people develop a new file transfer method? WLM's method is sooo slow compared to ICQ and Skype's method (ICQ even resumes broken downloads and it uses a nice part of my internet band. I can get a file of 30MB in 10-15 minutes on ICQ against almost 30 minutes on WLM).
You could always use File Transfer Plus.
RE: Working on the next version by ahmetgns on 09-02-2007 at 06:53 AM

quote:
Originally posted by Keikonium
One thing that keeps me from using colored names is that my contacts WITHOUT plus see the bbcode. Is it possible to ping contacts, find out if they have plus, and if the ping returns false, strip the bbcode from my name? That'd be great .
quote:
Originally posted by .Lou
That would mean spamming each one of your contacts with ping, and they'll not like that a lot. I'm sure that won't be implemented
If Pong response is taken, it means that your contact has Messenger Plus!, but if Pong response isn't taken, it DOESN'T MEAN THAT YOUR CONTACT DOESN'T HAVE MESSENGER PLUS! Therefore, if you want colorful nicknames, just use it. Don't worry about your contacts. (You can always recommend them Messenger Plus! :) )
quote:
Originally posted by Xaps
1 - The ability of removing the message that warns your contact that you have a webcam...
Already possible in Windows Live Messenger options.:S
quote:
Originally posted by Xaps
3 - Put an option to block the "nudge" feature or just put a user-custom message to show that your contact wants attention (someting like "(contact) is trying to get your attention" or "(contact) is annoying you" ).
I didn't understand how Plus! will make the difference between annoyance and getting attention but you can disable nudges in Windows Live Messenger's options.
quote:
Originally posted by Xaps
6 - The ability of showing diferent nicknames to different contacts (or groups)
Not possible! :(

RE: Working on the next version by jacky2 on 09-02-2007 at 11:16 AM

quote:
Originally posted by .Lou
quote:

Originally posted by Xaps
Bigger display pictures (max 250px X 250px or 300px x 300px)



The idea is already present elsewhere (stuffplug), Patchou won't use it.

It is NO LONGER present on stuffplug since version 3, and they said they won't put it back.
That's because display pictures get resized on the receiving end as well, so everyone who wanted to see the larger picture would need StuffPlug installed and very few people had it.
But Plus! is far more popular than Stuffplug...so we wouldn't have that problem as almost everyone would see the bigger pictures.
Patchou please add this feature! It would be just amazing.
RE: Working on the next version by Bram on 09-02-2007 at 08:04 PM

Hi

Here a suggestion from a friend:

If I start a groupchat and add friends to this conversation and you add some more and people are starting to be annoying, then I can right click on their avatar and choose Remove from this converation and then the group conversation windows closes for that user.


RE: Working on the next version by Lou on 09-03-2007 at 12:16 AM

quote:
Originally posted by jacky2
It is NO LONGER present on stuffplug since version 3, and they said they won't put it back.
That's because display pictures get resized on the receiving end as well, so everyone who wanted to see the larger picture would need StuffPlug installed and very few people had it.
But Plus! is far more popular than Stuffplug...so we wouldn't have that problem as almost everyone would see the bigger pictures.
Patchou please add this feature! It would be just amazing.
The fact remains that a member of this community (though that's not what matters) has already used that idea in the past. Patchou won't use it. You also have to understand that just because most of your contacts have Messenger Plus! Live, that doesn't mean most of everyone else's contacts do. Yes, stuffplug is/was less popular than Plus!, but that doesn't mean that "almost everyone" would see them. So no, I really doubt that will be implemented.
RE: Working on the next version by Deco on 09-03-2007 at 12:22 AM

Don't over-do-it.

While I'm hoping you'll release soon I rather have many more new versions of MPL instead of a huge one and a stressed or burnt out Patchy ;)

Besides, if you need some chilling time just head down here to Brazil you can code on my laptop watching beautiful people go around in the beach!

Good luck coding!


RE: Working on the next version by lysp on 09-03-2007 at 07:00 AM

Few things i can think of:

1 - Ability to save logs in ansi and not unicode.
I know people need i18n functionality, but i don't and i don't like my files to be 2-3 times the size when i don't have any international contacts.

2 - Raw event for scripting
Ability to send/parse/recieve raw events in the scripting. This allows scripts to get a lot lower into protocol level.

Simple example. If i want all messages coming through to change a contacts name to their email - i can by doing a string replace on the incoming event. Also means i dont need to worry about hooking/data capture dll's.


RE: Working on the next version by markee on 09-03-2007 at 07:16 AM

quote:
Originally posted by lysp
Simple example. If i want all messages coming through to change a contacts name to their email - i can by doing a string replace on the incoming event. Also means i dont need to worry about hooking/data capture dll's.
The reason for the way that it works in your example is that is how the protocol is (the message received through messenger).  If it were possible for us to be guaranteed of the email address then we would most likely get the ContactObject for them instead.
RE: Working on the next version by jacky2 on 09-03-2007 at 08:53 AM

quote:
Originally posted by .Lou
quote:
Originally posted by jacky2
It is NO LONGER present on stuffplug since version 3, and they said they won't put it back.
That's because display pictures get resized on the receiving end as well, so everyone who wanted to see the larger picture would need StuffPlug installed and very few people had it.
But Plus! is far more popular than Stuffplug...so we wouldn't have that problem as almost everyone would see the bigger pictures.
Patchou please add this feature! It would be just amazing.
The fact remains that a member of this community (though that's not what matters) has already used that idea in the past. Patchou won't use it. You also have to understand that just because most of your contacts have Messenger Plus! Live, that doesn't mean most of everyone else's contacts do. Yes, stuffplug is/was less popular than Plus!, but that doesn't mean that "almost everyone" would see them. So no, I really doubt that will be implemented.
Well but we could at least try to ask for permission (and I'm sure TheBlasphemer would give it)
Is there something bad in using someone's else ideas if he gives you full permission? I don't think so.
If TB says no then all right...but if he says OK why shouldn't Patchou add a feature so many of us wished for since MSN 5.0 and still wish for?
RE: RE: Working on the next version by Salem on 09-03-2007 at 10:26 AM

quote:
Originally posted by Bram
Hi

Here a suggestion from a friend:

If I start a groupchat and add friends to this conversation and you add some more and people are starting to be annoying, then I can right click on their avatar and choose Remove from this converation and then the group conversation windows closes for that user.


Good idea, although i just thought of one potential problem.

Who in the multi-user conversation will be allowed ti "kick" contacts? Would it be everyone, or just the person who started the chat.

~Salem(@)
RE: Working on the next version by vaccination on 09-03-2007 at 10:34 AM

quote:
Originally posted by Salem
Good idea, although i just thought of one potential problem.

Who in the multi-user conversation will be allowed ti "kick" contacts? Would it be everyone, or just the person who started the chat.

~Salem(@)
The person who started the chat, IMO.

But I'm not sure if there's a way to a) detect who started the chat or b) actually close peoples conversations remotely.

I don't think it is possible.
RE: RE: Working on the next version by Salem on 09-03-2007 at 01:48 PM

quote:
Originally posted by vaccination
quote:
Originally posted by Salem
Good idea, although i just thought of one potential problem.

Who in the multi-user conversation will be allowed ti "kick" contacts? Would it be everyone, or just the person who started the chat.

~Salem(@)
But I'm not sure if there's a way to...actually close peoples conversations remotely.

I don't think it is possible.


I don't think so either, but i think the main idea was to kick then from the conversation. i'm sure this could be possible (although im not 100% sure).

~Salem(@)
RE: Working on the next version by Bram on 09-03-2007 at 01:55 PM

maybe the /close command in another window ...


RE: Working on the next version by Xaps on 09-03-2007 at 04:46 PM

or just cut the remote client connection, like a kick on IRC... don't need to close  the window...



RE: Working on the next version by Eddie on 09-04-2007 at 11:17 AM

quote:
Originally posted by Salem
I don't think so either, but i think the main idea was to kick then from the conversation. i'm sure this could be possible (although im not 100% sure).

~Salem(@)
The old way with the .pif or whatever it was is removed, the only way i could think would be if every user had Messenger Plus Live so you could ping it to there Plus Live to close the window. These sort of features are things that the WLM Developers should have implemented a long time ago anyway instead of trying to get a super-cool UI.
RE: Working on the next version by raghav on 09-04-2007 at 12:22 PM

Cool , cant wait for it.:P


RE: Working on the next version by Berger on 09-05-2007 at 05:15 PM

Hmm, dont know if this has already been brought up, but what about the old "/clear" function?


RE: Working on the next version by cloudedhopes on 09-05-2007 at 05:25 PM

quote:
Originally posted by vaccination
quote:
Originally posted by Salem
Good idea, although i just thought of one potential problem.

Who in the multi-user conversation will be allowed ti "kick" contacts? Would it be everyone, or just the person who started the chat.

~Salem(@)
The person who started the chat, IMO.

But I'm not sure if there's a way to a) detect who started the chat or b) actually close peoples conversations remotely.

I don't think it is possible.

"a" is a good idea - i don't think shud be a huge problem... however on "b", i think if u remote close the window - watif there was something important he wanted to look at... wudn't be very nice to the person :)
RE: Working on the next version by Oxy on 09-05-2007 at 05:31 PM

quote:
Originally posted by cloudedhopes
important he wanted to look at.
Then simply disconnect them, but that sounds more difficult.
RE: RE: Working on the next version by Salem on 09-05-2007 at 06:14 PM

quote:
Originally posted by Berger
Hmm, dont know if this has already been brought up, but what about the old "/clear" function?


seconded
RE: Working on the next version by ahmetgns on 09-07-2007 at 07:58 AM

[Request]: Transparent Popup Toasts

Like contact list and conversation windows, popup toasts must also be able to be made transparent with the help of Messenger Plus! Even this would be more useful than contact list's and conversation windows' transparencies. Because popup toast are shown unexpectedly, and we may be reading something where that popup appears at the appearing moment. Currenlty we have no option but either close it with our mouse or wait it to disappear. It is very annoying. However, we must see through them.

Please put an option for this in the next build and please only one option for both toasts, WLM's and MsgPlus!'s (including all Scripts' toasts). Thanks in advance.


RE: Working on the next version by Keikonium on 09-07-2007 at 11:16 PM

I just thought of a feature I would really love:

When listening to a song, and having it show up in the PSM it's clickable. Clicking it, brings you to some page that locates the artist. So my request is:

Being able to set a custom link location in some preference in Plus!. That way I can have it link to a lyrics site or something like that. And my contacts that also have Plus! will beable to go to whatever link I set (if possible).


RE: RE: Working on the next version by Salem on 09-08-2007 at 05:35 PM

quote:
Originally posted by Keikonium
When listening to a song, and having it show up in the PSM it's clickable. Clicking it, brings you to some page that locates the artist. So my request is:

Being able to set a custom link location in some preference in Plus!. That way I can have it link to a lyrics site or something like that. And my contacts that also have Plus! will beable to go to whatever link I set (if possible).


I don't think this will be considered as it could be a potential security risk. Users could use this feature to link their contacts to malicious websites.
RE: Working on the next version by Matti on 09-08-2007 at 06:50 PM

quote:
Originally posted by Salem
I don't think this will be considered as it could be a potential security risk. Users could use this feature to link their contacts to malicious websites.
Totally agreed. As the Media message doesn't display the URL it links to, it's even more dangerous than an URL in a conversation. Why do you think we can't choose the text displayed for an URL like we can on the Internet? Because then the user has no idea where the link will take him/her. The media message is (quite) safe as it always links to MSN Music. But if we'd be able to change that, it'd become a very big security risk.
RE: Working on the next version by vaccination on 09-08-2007 at 07:15 PM

quote:
Originally posted by Mattike
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Originally posted by Salem
I don't think this will be considered as it could be a potential security risk. Users could use this feature to link their contacts to malicious websites.
Totally agreed. As the Media message doesn't display the URL it links to, it's even more dangerous than an URL in a conversation. Why do you think we can't choose the text displayed for an URL like we can on the Internet? Because then the user has no idea where the link will take him/her. The media message is (quite) safe as it always links to MSN Music. But if we'd be able to change that, it'd become a very big security risk.
Yes, but what about making it be available to select(from a pre-defined scroll down) a lyric website. When the link is clicked it searches the preferred website for the lyrics of the song. Much like the Now Playing script does, but automatically when you click the PSM link.

Or maybe someone could put this straight into a script? *pokes dt*
RE: Working on the next version by ahmetgns on 09-11-2007 at 09:42 PM

One more suggestion:

Can we have an option under "Automatically Accept Requests" options like "Play the new alert sound when a request is accepted" Because, even if I enable automatic accepts, I'd like to be notified about the acception.

Or this option can be, not totally sure but, at "Event Notifications" at "Events associated with this notification" list, Request was accepted automatically .


RE: Working on the next version by warmth on 09-11-2007 at 11:58 PM

I'm soooooo happy now cause new version will give me some personal satisfaction...

http://shoutbox.menthix.net/showthread.php?tid=72...d=847962#pid847962

Thanks Patchou!!!


RE: Working on the next version by sock on 09-12-2007 at 11:49 PM

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Originally posted by Salem
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Originally posted by Berger
Hmm, dont know if this has already been brought up, but what about the old "/clear" function?

seconded

Thirded. And talking of old features, it'll be nice if my "/slap <name>" (with (!P) in the /slap definition) makes a comeback. (&)


Also, here's a suggestion for emotion sounds: how about an option to select a random sound from the entire sound library? The library can easily become gigantic, and it's annoying to browse for nice random sounds in the last "pages" of each category.

[If this option is added, I'd personally like it to simply open a random sound's "page" and highlight it (just like after previewing a sound). That way I can decide whether to send the sound or not. Perhaps this m/behaviou?r/ would only be used when "preview mode" is on. I wouldn't like auto-previewing either, because I have some loud sounds. :-$]
RE: RE: Working on the next version by lysp on 09-13-2007 at 07:26 AM

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Originally posted by markee
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Originally posted by lysp
Simple example. If i want all messages coming through to change a contacts name to their email - i can by doing a string replace on the incoming event. Also means i dont need to worry about hooking/data capture dll's.
The reason for the way that it works in your example is that is how the protocol is (the message received through messenger).  If it were possible for us to be guaranteed of the email address then we would most likely get the ContactObject for them instead.


I was only using that as a simple example.

My real reason is i want to read/manipulate the client at the protocol level without having to install 3rd party packet sniffers/hookers.

I would like for that to be in script form.
RE: Working on the next version by Justin on 09-30-2007 at 03:59 PM

Hi
What i would like to see in the next version is a better name editer with diffrent fonts and sizes of the letters. Thanks i hope this idea gets thought of by the team as im sure its not that hard to do :)


RE: Working on the next version by Voldemort on 09-30-2007 at 04:53 PM

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Originally posted by Justin-
name editer with diffrent fonts and sizes of the letters
Fonts and size can't be changed, that's the way WLM works.
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Originally posted by Justin-
thought of by the team
There's no team, only Patchou.
RE: Working on the next version by Justin on 10-01-2007 at 09:49 PM

How about a skin editer?


RE: Working on the next version by Eddie on 10-02-2007 at 03:16 PM

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Originally posted by Justin-
How about a skin editer?
For Messenger Plus! Live! Im not sure, but i think with Windows Live Messenger this would be WAY to complex.
RE: Working on the next version by markee on 10-03-2007 at 02:12 AM

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Originally posted by Eddie
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Originally posted by Justin-
How about a skin editer?
For Messenger Plus! Live! Im not sure, but i think with Windows Live Messenger this would be WAY to complex.
For Messenger Plus! Live it is just easier for people to learn how to use the Plus! window codes and deal with it that way.  This is already possible.  I think it would be too much work to make a WYSIWYG editor for this without just doing one for Plus! windows in general while you are at it (and that kind of stuff doesn't seem like it is going to happen any time soon).
RE: Working on the next version by giken on 10-03-2007 at 08:51 PM

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Originally posted by Patchou
Hello,

summer is passing by and I just realized that it's been a while since the last news post. For those of you wondering, I'm not spending my days enjoying the sun outside. I enjoy it inside, with my keyboard, working on a new version of Messenger Plus! Live. This version will be a new major update (probably labelled 4.50) and I'm doing my best to make it will be worth its weight of megabytes.

The list of improvements cannot be talked about immediately as many things are still being worked on, however, I can safely say that the update will be released sometime this fall. I'll keep you posted with a screenshot or two when possible. Until then, if you have any good suggestion or ideas to improve Messenger, it's time to talk about them on the forum :-).

Patchou

Thanks for all your work, Patchou ;)

RE: Working on the next version by profane on 10-06-2007 at 12:22 AM

Ok i just thought of another thing you should add along side with the whole making Audio Clips longer (like 20sec). 


Id like to see Live! be able to make group folders for certain sounds.  Like if i had tons of sound clips from lets say some Youtube videos or w/e, i would have the ability to make a folder for just those specific sounds.  I'm kind of an organization freak so....