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Prevent emoticon text->img translation while writing message by OmNomNomNom on 09-13-2007 at 04:13 AM

Hi all,

Just been forced to upgrade to Messenger Live 8.1.0178, and have just about finished reinstalling all the patches and plugins to make it usable.

The only thing left is a script/plugin/patch/whatever which will prevent emoticon text from being translated to emoticon images while I'm typing a message in a conversation window.

For example, if I type ":)", I want it to remain as ":)" and only become a smiley face when I send the message.  The main reason for this is that whenever I need to type something in parentheses, I typically type the opening and closing ones, then hit left and type what I want between them... which now turns the lot into an emoticon picture when I type the first letter!

I had the feature disabled in my previous version of MSN (7.5.something), but haven't had any luck finding something to do it in the latest version...

Any ideas?

Cheers :)


RE: Prevent emoticon text->img translation while writing message by OmNomNomNom on 09-16-2007 at 02:36 PM

Anyone?  I still haven't been able to find a script that does it... :(


RE: Prevent emoticon text->img translation while writing message by davidpolitis on 09-17-2007 at 02:45 AM

What would be the point of this..? So you will be able to more eaily remember emoticon shortcuts?


RE: Prevent emoticon text->img translation while writing message by OmNomNomNom on 09-17-2007 at 03:07 AM

The point would be to disable a feature that I find annoying, as it messes up the way I type.

It annoyed enough people when the feature was introduced (around around 7.5ish iirc) for there to be a script/plugin to disable it, but I haven't been able to find a newer one.

I just want messages I type to act like they did before this feature was introduced - any emoticons you type don't turn into pictures until you send the message.


RE: Prevent emoticon text->img translation while writing message by MeEtc on 09-17-2007 at 03:14 AM

just type /noicon before your message ;)


RE: RE: Prevent emoticon text->img translation while writing message by OmNomNomNom on 09-17-2007 at 03:45 AM

quote:
Originally posted by MeEtc
just type /noicon before your message ;)


This doesn't do what I'm asking for.
Okay, here's an explaination that is more in context.  Please read the conversation in this screenshot, hopefully it will explain what I'm after.
[Image: msnng6.jpg]

So, I want emoticons as images in the area labelled "1." but I want them to remain as text in the area labelled "2."

This is how MSN worked in versions below 7.5 or so.
RE: Prevent emoticon text->img translation while writing message by linx05 on 09-17-2007 at 03:54 AM

Ah yes. StuffPlug had this feature a while back. It was a very handy feature to have.

I'm all for a script which can reproduce this!


RE: Prevent emoticon text->img translation while writing message by Matti on 09-17-2007 at 05:09 PM

If we'd know how StuffPlug does it, we may be able to turn this into a script. But as far as I know, TB doesn't release his secrets and the latest BETA we got for testing doesn't contain this feature. We can only hope for TB to inform us about it, or for some genius script developer finding out how to do this. :P


RE: Prevent emoticon text->img translation while writing message by OmNomNomNom on 09-18-2007 at 01:27 AM

quote:
Originally posted by Mattike
If we'd know how StuffPlug does it, we may be able to turn this into a script. But as far as I know, TB doesn't release his secrets and the latest BETA we got for testing doesn't contain this feature. We can only hope for TB to inform us about it, or for some genius script developer finding out how to do this. :P

So I'm guessing it's much easier to add/extend functionality via a script than it is to remove simple standard behaviour/features like this... Bummer :P


Actually, while I'm here I'll just go on a bit of a tangent... Messenger Live has this "sharing folder" feature - I thought it would be great.  I can just share my mp3 folder with the friend who always wants me to send her music and she can grab files when she wants, etc.

But it seems that sharing a folder involves making a copy of all the files into another location on your hard drive, as opposed to just tagging a folder or files as shared like every other file sharing app on the web.

Is that the case, and is there any way to make it work in a way which isn't complete crap?
RE: Prevent emoticon text->img translation while writing message by albert on 09-18-2007 at 01:40 AM

If I`m not mistaken, just going in the Windows Live Messenger features will allow you to disable to see emoticons.. Of course that would mean that you will not be able to see it in the conversation text either, but at least, your friend will.


RE: Prevent emoticon text->img translation while writing message by OmNomNomNom on 09-18-2007 at 01:56 AM

quote:
Originally posted by albert
If I`m not mistaken, just going in the Windows Live Messenger features will allow you to disable to see emoticons.. Of course that would mean that you will not be able to see it in the conversation text either, but at least, your friend will.

Yeah, I'm aware that I can disable them altogether, but as I pointed out in previous posts I *like* emoticons and use them a lot.
RE: Prevent emoticon text->img translation while writing message by -dt- on 09-18-2007 at 05:50 AM

quote:
Originally posted by OmNomNomNom
Is that the case, and is there any way to make it work in a way which isn't complete crap?

if you use vista you could make a symbolic link by going

code:
mklink /D /path/to/shared/folder/emailofuser/music /path/to/your/music/folder


for more information see
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/NTFS_symbolic_link
RE: Prevent emoticon text->img translation while writing message by davidpolitis on 09-18-2007 at 06:04 AM

It'd be fairly easy to just edit the registry on events. OnEvent_Initialize: Disable Emoticons. OnEvent_ChatWndSendMessage: Enable Emoticons.

The problem is that the textarea will not update to then show the emoticon :(


RE: Prevent emoticon text->img translation while writing message by OmNomNomNom on 09-18-2007 at 06:29 AM

Despite not knowing any scripting, that was one of the ways I imagined it could possibly be done... Bummer that it wouldn't work, though. :(

Hopefully someone will be able to nut it out! :)


RE: Prevent emoticon text->img translation while writing message by davidpolitis on 09-18-2007 at 06:49 AM

hhm, unless it is possible to hook the textarea you type in and replace images on the ChatWndEditKeyDown event.

tbh, I don't really know much. You're better off chatting on IRC to dt or someone alike that knows alot about Interop etc.