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CiD adbots - annoying by adrianbcn on 10-18-2007 at 10:16 AM

I keep getting the CiD adbot windows popping up and I want to remove them. I have followed the instructions as posted here and they do not work. Having contacted he Spyware provider I use they say that their software has not danaged it and that there was a bad programmer at Patchou who put in these adbots and that Patchou need to send out a fix for this.

Please advise what Patchou can do to resolve this and not keep blaming other peoples software!


RE: CiD adbots - annoying by Menthix on 10-18-2007 at 10:24 AM

Spyware provider? Who exactly did you contact?


RE: CiD adbots - annoying by adrianbcn on 10-18-2007 at 10:38 AM

Sorry, this should have said anti-Spyware provider - they are XoftSpyFix and Adaware.


RE: CiD adbots - annoying by Spunky on 10-18-2007 at 11:09 AM

CiD is tha adware that installs if you install the sponsor program that comes with Messenger Plus! Live. It is not an issue that Patchou (one person, not a company btw) has to fix. If you didn't install the sponsor program, then it is quite possible that you have contracted the adware from another program without knowing it, or from another website. There is nothing wrong with the programming.

EDIT: If the instructions don't work here, your Anti-Virus software may have partially deleted the adware. This is not a good idea. Disable, your Anti-Virus for a minute, re-install MP!L WITH the sponsor (this will repair the sponsor program, meaning it can uninstall), uninstall MP!L (which will rmeove the sponsor) and then install without the sponsor.


RE: CiD adbots - annoying by adrianbcn on 10-18-2007 at 11:19 AM

I have followed those second instructions too and it does not work.

The adbots only started when I installed Messenger Plus Live and I wish I never had. If I could remove it and the adbot software they include then I would! I have not installed any other software either just before or since installing Messenger Live Plus - so I know it is that software at fault.

The company Patchou released the software with the adbot (for which I am sure they receive a very nice revenue) , so they have the responsibilty to provide a solution to their inconsiderate programming.


RE: CiD adbots - annoying by Menthix on 10-18-2007 at 11:38 AM

What part exactly doesn't work?

- In Add/Remove software, is Plus! listed as "Messenger Plus! Live & Sponsor" or just "Messenger Plus! Live"?
- When you uninstall Plus! did you get the option to remove just the sponsor or both Plus! and sponsor?
- When you choose to uninstall the sponsor, did a window show up where you need to type in a code shown on the screen (to verify you are a human being).
- After entering that code, did it say uninstallation of the sponsor was successful?
- did you reboot after the uninstallation?


quote:
Originally posted by adrianbcn
they have the responsibilty to provide a solution to their inconsiderate programming
The uninstaller together with the instructions on How to uninstall ad-ware/sponsor works fine for almost everybody. Just a few from the more than 20 million users reported problems with it. I can imagine i would hate it too when i was one of the few that didn't get it working, but you have to understand there are a lot of factors which can cause these problems which Patchou and the CiD developers can't control, like other software installed on your PC interfering with the uninstaller or certain settings on your PC which prevents the uninstaller from doing its job.
RE: CiD adbots - annoying by adrianbcn on 10-18-2007 at 12:46 PM

Yes, a restore would be the preferred option due to the problems created by Patchou, but I could not get the system to restore. That is why I resorted to contacting the Spyware removal companies for advice after the Patchou advice didn't work.

Maybe I am one of the few of 20 million people this has affected, but I think the number must be a lt bigger than that!! 

Yes,  I did install the Patchou software for it's additional benefits, particularly as the website is designed to look like an oficial Microsoft site in order to con people into installing it. More installations = more revenue for Patchou from it's sponsors!!!


RE: CiD adbots - annoying by Chris4 on 10-18-2007 at 05:26 PM

I don't understand you. What are you saying is a con? Nothing is a con :S.

If your talking about http://www.msgpluslive.net , how does it look anything like a Microsoft website?

Your making things more complicated then they actually are. Messenger Plus! Live is a add-on for Messenger, made by Patchou. It comes with a a sponsor which you can choose to install or not. Removing the sponsor should be an easy process and I'm sorry to hear that your having problems. Like MenthiX said, there's some things which can affect it which Messenger Plus! Live and the sponsor has no control over. If you ask nicely we'll try our best to help you remove it.


RE: CiD adbots - annoying by Menthix on 10-18-2007 at 05:53 PM

adrianbcn, you didn't answer any of my questions. If you want us to help, give us a chance. Nobody can magically help you if you just come here to post your criticism without explaining the real problem.

Like Chris said, the Plus! site doesn't look anything like an official Microsoft site. It even states " This site is not affiliated in any way with Microsoft Corporation" in the footer of every page.


RE: CiD adbots - annoying by Patchou on 10-18-2007 at 07:25 PM

Adrian: please follow the instructions MenthiX gave you. The sponsor program canm be removed very easily. If one of your security software deleted files at random and caused your current problems, just disable all of them, reinstall Messenger Plus! with the sponsor and launch the uninstaller again. The sponsor's uninstallation will be done within a minute and you won't see a popup ever again.


RE: CiD adbots - annoying by adrianbcn on 10-21-2007 at 11:47 AM

I have followed the instructions to the letter and guess what!! I still have the CiD adbots popping up!!

On trying to remove the sponsor the message came up that it was damaged (is it really damaged or just a message put in the programming so that it cannot be deleted, so that Patchou continues to receive more revenue?)

Come on guys, send out a solution to this problem so that many other people can benefit. I see there have been quite a few people reading this thread!!


RE: CiD adbots - annoying by MattyRid on 10-21-2007 at 11:55 AM

quote:
Originally posted by adrianbcn
On trying to remove the sponsor the message came up that it was damaged (is it really damaged or just a message put in the programming so that it cannot be deleted, so that Patchou continues to receive more revenue?)

no it is really damaged because spyware/virus software has taken to it first and that is why you are in this problem in the first place. So disabling ANY anti-virus and spyware software will make a huge difference

RE: CiD adbots - annoying by Spunky on 10-21-2007 at 12:03 PM

quote:
Originally posted by adrianbcn
(is it really damaged or just a message put in the programming so that it cannot be deleted, so that Patchou continues to receive more revenue?)

I believe I told you at one point that your Anti-Virus software is likely to have removed an vital file required for the uninstallation of the sponsor program. If you cannot get your head around the fact that Messenger Plus! Live is a trustworthy program, written by a normal person like you or me that has done nothing wrong, I do not see why we bother to continue helping you. If it says it is damaged, it is damaged. Patchou has even posted to try and offer help and you still seem incapable of grasping the simplest of concepts that he is not after your money. Now rather than complaining once more, I suggest that before your next post you do exactly what we have suggested regarding you anti-virus software. If I'm coming across as harsh it is only because I am fed up of people complaining about the sponsor program when in truth it is they who are responsible for any program installed on the computer and ensuring the know exactly what it does. You checked install sponsor program and obviously did not bother to read what it does and I refuse to read and re-read your posts slandering the program when it is infact you, who I do not know what the hell you are doing with a computer, that is in the wrong
RE: CiD adbots - annoying by Dane on 10-21-2007 at 12:15 PM

quote:
Originally posted by SpunkyLoveMuff
quote:
Originally posted by adrianbcn
(is it really damaged or just a message put in the programming so that it cannot be deleted, so that Patchou continues to receive more revenue?)

I believe I told you at one point that your Anti-Virus software is likely to have removed an vital file required for the uninstallation of the sponsor program...

Well said.  If Patchou was out for your money, he wouldnt make the sponsor optional, he would make it a requirement.  Using dodgy offbrand Antispyware/Antivirus will also likely give you the results you're experiencing with the file being removed.  I use Symantec Norton Internet Security 2008 and Messenger Plus! Live operates fine for me, with or without the sponsor.  So ditch the crap (who the hell uses XoftSpy anyway, its crap!), Remove the sponsor exactly the way you have been told to do it (the sponsor goes through rigorous install/uninstall testing in many computing environments by us Beta Testers, as Patchou cares how it affects your computer) and reinstall Plus!, this time read all agreements you're presented with and decline the sponsor agreement if you dont want it.  When you're done with that, install decent security software, such as the Norton product suggested above.  And please understand that calling Patchou a con, a scammer, a cheater, etc. is not going to get you very far when you're requesting help, we've known Patchou probably longer than you've been online and we trust him with our computers, so dont expect to receive such nice responses after calling him such things.  Anyway, Have a nice day and Thanks for choosing to use Messenger Plus! Live!

RE: CiD adbots - annoying by adrianbcn on 10-21-2007 at 12:46 PM

Well as you will have read, I did follow the instructions to the letter in order to try and remove the sponsor, and this did not work.

As there are obviously flaws in the programming, which the programmer(s) are aware of or why would they put in the message saying that it is damaged, then they should release a fix for this. What other reputable software do you know that has this sort of problem when trying to remove it from your PC? 


RE: CiD adbots - annoying by andrewdodd13 on 10-21-2007 at 01:06 PM

Norton.

Anyway. Did you reinstall the sponsor when you reinstalled Messenger Plus! Live? If you did, then something's still tampering with your sponsor installation, you'll need to disable that.

Programmers shouldn't have to deal with other programs messing with their installations, so you can't blame Patch.

It's like when people ruin their savegames using memory editors, etc.


RE: CiD adbots - annoying by MeEtc on 10-21-2007 at 01:53 PM

quote:
Originally posted by adrianbcn
then they should release a fix for this.
There IS a fix for this. It's called reinstalling.

Ok, here is my recommendation. Go to the start menu, select run. type msconfig. Choose the option for selective startup, and then uncheck load startup  items. Restart your computer. Reinstall Messenger Plus! with the sponsor. Reboot your PC again. Uninstall Plus. Run msconfig again and select normal startup.

RE: CiD adbots - annoying by Adeptus on 10-21-2007 at 02:13 PM

quote:
Originally posted by adrianbcn
On trying to remove the sponsor the message came up that it was damaged (is it really damaged or just a message put in the programming so that it cannot be deleted, so that Patchou continues to receive more revenue?)
quote:
Originally posted by Patchou
If one of your security software deleted files at random and caused your current problems, just disable all of them, reinstall Messenger Plus! with the sponsor and launch the uninstaller again.
Emphasis in the quote of Patchou mine.  Did you try this (reinstalling Plus! with sponsor, then uninstalling)? 

As for Patchou doing sneaky things to "receive more revenure" -- during install of Plus!, you could choose to not install the sponsor, you just didn't select that option.  Given he makes it that easy to skip it in the first place, don't you think it's somewhat illogical to claim he has intentionally sabotaged removal once installed?
RE: CiD adbots - annoying by Patchou on 10-21-2007 at 04:34 PM

If you don't want to reinstall Plus! and the sponsor you can also try to run the sponsor's universal uninstaller which you can find here: http://nb.dns-look-up.com/bins/uninstall.exe

But pleae, do disable your antivirus programs before running any of these as one of your programs is obviously interfering with the adware program. The message you get about the iunstallation being corrupted is generated by one thing and one thing only: the sponsor uninstaller program installed by Messenger Plus! has been delete by something. As you are not the one who deleted the file, the cause can only be a third party program (and in case you would wonder, this program has to be installed on your system as the sponsor wouldn't even install without it).


RE: CiD adbots - annoying by adrianbcn on 11-01-2007 at 12:28 PM

Patchou. Many thanks, the program ran fine and appears to have deleted the CiD adbots as they are no longer popping up! I have been away on business for a while and only just got round to posting this message.

Sorry if I was a pain in the xxxx recently but it was really getting on my nerves.

Thanks again.


RE: CiD adbots - annoying by Patchou on 11-01-2007 at 06:41 PM

I'm glad we could help :).