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Laptop fucked, don't know what to do... by Nathan on 11-16-2007 at 09:31 PM
Hi,
You might remember my other thread about my windows, well i've decided its easier for me to reinstall xp because it is going so goddamn slow.
Thing is, it won't let me backup my files, something to do with a pipe error?!
exact error:
Cannot copy ____filename____: Data error (cyclic redundancy check)
I need to backup my files, copy and paste, drag and drop, and software will not allow it, it will stop after about 20-30 files. Why does it do this :/
I have the XP disk next to me, so i'm ready but im not startin till i have a backup!
Please help, anyone!
Thanks
RE: Laptop fucked, don't know what to do... by Quantum on 11-16-2007 at 09:45 PM
If you boot with a linux disk you can view all your windows files and then just copy them? I do that all the time 
RE: Laptop fucked, don't know what to do... by roflmao456 on 11-16-2007 at 09:49 PM
some real nice thread title you have here 
anyway, you could just get a flash drive and copy whatever you need into there.
* roflmao456 requests for title censoring 
RE: Laptop fucked, don't know what to do... by Nathan on 11-16-2007 at 09:55 PM
Erm, in linux all the files have a locked symbol next to them, so if i back it up using linux wont the CHMOD get coppied over?
RE: Laptop fucked, don't know what to do... by Quantum on 11-16-2007 at 09:59 PM
When you boot with Linux you bypass file security for windows i do it all the time!
RE: Laptop fucked, don't know what to do... by Nathan on 11-16-2007 at 10:09 PM
No, I mean all files are read-only when i look at them using linux, so if i copy them it will also be read only right?
RE: Laptop fucked, don't know what to do... by Quantum on 11-16-2007 at 10:17 PM
No.
RE: Laptop fucked, don't know what to do... by Nathan on 11-16-2007 at 10:20 PM
Are you sure?
RE: Laptop fucked, don't know what to do... by aNILEator on 11-16-2007 at 10:41 PM
If it is read only, when you import it back onto windows you can just turn it off.
That Error is a real bastard, try running chkdsk a few times and a good defrag program also a few times
Also I never was able to fully restore files that got affected by this on my grandparents machine, they lost about 20 photos
RE: Laptop fucked, don't know what to do... by Quantum on 11-16-2007 at 10:41 PM
Yes as its going via Linux and all security crap is binned!
RE: Laptop fucked, don't know what to do... by Mike on 11-16-2007 at 11:06 PM
Your HDD is probably starting to die. I suggest to backup everything you need, since it may fail soon.
Btw, "soon" could mean next day,month and even year.
My laptop has been saying that it's going to die soon since January and it's November right now and it still works.
I do get however sometimes the error you posted above.
Btw, does the HDD make any unusual noise when you try to copy that particular file?
Also go to the event viewer -> system. Do you see any disk errors/warnings (like the ones in the attachment 
) ?
Btw, what linux distro are you using?
I suggest Puppy Linux since it has full NTFS support (well, ubuntu 7.10 also has full NTFS support but it is slow when booting from CD 
).
RE: Laptop fucked, don't know what to do... by Nathan on 11-16-2007 at 11:17 PM
It's not any file its like loads of them, and currently it won't let me backup it gets through about 9 files and stops in linux and windows 
But i can still open everything :/
Note: my laptop is just over a year old
RE: Laptop fucked, don't know what to do... by Quantum on 11-16-2007 at 11:46 PM
[In advance]
If its a hardware problem like mike said (that rhymes) you can recover all your data from on of those data center places that can recover anything. (thats of you want to spend some $$$ or £££) I cant find anything to help you with now but i will look again after i have some ZZzz! Good luck!
RE: Laptop fucked, don't know what to do... by surfichris on 11-17-2007 at 09:37 AM
quote:Hard drive failure.
Originally posted by Napbree
It's not any file its like loads of them, and currently it won't let me backup it gets through about 9 files and stops in linux and windows
But i can still open everything :/
Note: my laptop is just over a year old
When you start getting CRC errors reading/writing files, and lots of them with many different files then you know you've got a hardware problem with either:
a. The hard drive (most likely)
b. The hard disk controller (unlikely)
It's most likely that the drive has been damaged. You my say ".. but the laptop is only a year old" well, the thing is, things like this happen once in a while.
- Do you have extended/warranty for the laptop? If so, it'll be covered.
- If you don't have available warranty you'd be looking at purchasing a new drive for your laptop.
Copy off what you can, forget the rest though, because chances are you won't be able to get it back.
RE: Laptop fucked, don't know what to do... by Nathan on 11-17-2007 at 10:10 AM
Thanks chris, Does anyone know any software that will copy everything, and if it cant copy it, it will ignore it?
Erm, it's a good job i paid £200 for 2 years warranty 
Never ever ever ever go for acer people, its just problems problems and more problems
Mike: Yeah, i've got those errors, hundreds of them lol. And im using ubuntu, i have it installed, i installed it before everything fucked up
IS there anyway where I can just get a new laptop from them, because its not the only thing wrong with it:
1.) Minijack output is faulty, when cable or plug moved it will disconnect/connect.
2.) Lots of keys missing on keyboard
3.) The screen has some crystal white things from where pressure has been put – new screen needed
4.) Webcam doesn’t work
5.) Charger is blown
6.) The feet underneath the laptop need new rubbers – i have put some temperate ones there
7.) Maybe if possible, new case scratched and a bit bent
8.) The battery is really bad, you get 40mins out of it from full charge
9.) Hard drive faulty
lol
RE: Laptop fucked, don't know what to do... by Mike on 11-17-2007 at 10:31 AM
quote:Total Commander may be able to help you.
Originally posted by Napbree
Does anyone know any software that will copy everything
However, you have to be there when you get the "Cannot read file ____" error to click "Skip All".
After you finish copying you can use the synchronize directories feature to see which files didn't get copied.
You can also try using HDD Regenerator (not free) and/or Spinrite (not free too) which may help you to get some of your data back.
RE: Laptop fucked, don't know what to do... by andrewdodd13 on 11-17-2007 at 10:46 AM
My sisters laptop had the same problem as well, it's usually because the hard drive doesn't being bashed around a lot, and some laptop cases (especially Acer cases) don't have much protection against this.
Besides, you shouldn't being fucking your laptop anyway, that's worse than the guy with the bike.
Now where is the meme on bad sectors (cause that's likely what you have - if you run chkdsk /R then it will mark all bad sectors "bad" and let you recover what you can, normally without the error messages).
RE: Laptop fucked, don't know what to do... by Adeptus on 11-17-2007 at 10:57 AM
quote:xcopy /e /c c:\*.* e:\ -- assumption being E: is the drive letter of the external drive you are copying to. It's amusing how many suggestions you have, for things ranging from Linux to various third party apps, when Windows itself has all you need -- it's just that no one apparently knows about the command line.
Originally posted by Napbree
Does anyone know any software that will copy everything, and if it cant copy it, it will ignore it?
quote:Half of your complaint list sounds like the result of taking poor care of it. Why has there been "pressure put" to your screen, anyway? Scratches? Bent case? Acer is crap, sure, but it also sounds like you need to learn to treat your things better.
Originally posted by Napbree
3.) The screen has some crystal white things from where pressure has been put – new screen needed
6.) The feet underneath the laptop need new rubbers – i have put some temperate ones there
7.) Maybe if possible, new case scratched and a bit bent
RE: Laptop fucked, don't know what to do... by Nathan on 11-17-2007 at 11:01 AM
Why had there been pressure put to the screen?
Because when i close the screen i need to. The design is crap if i touch the top of the screen it will press the mouse button. The case isnt bent but the screen is slightly and sure it does have a few scratches, this laptop is used everyday and karted around school with me!
RE: Laptop fucked, don't know what to do... by surfichris on 11-17-2007 at 11:08 AM
Things like a bent case & scratches won't help you with your warranty and repair/replacement - they'll simply tell you that poor care was taken of the machine and as a result, any damage is your problem and not theres.
quote:Won't be covered. Do you mean missing physical keys or they've faded off? If that is the case, they won't be covered.
2.) Lots of keys missing on keyboard
Faded keys is considered general wear & tear and as a result has no cover.
quote:They won't replace the LCD/TFT screen if pressure has been applied on it.
3.) The screen has some crystal white things from where pressure has been put – new screen needed
What you're talking about too is dead or stuck pixels - they generally aren't covered unless there is a huge block of them. You'll have to read your warranty brochure/instruction manual which will have information on that.
quote:Most probably a corrupt or bad driver, maybe a software problem.
4.) Webcam doesn’t work
quote:Won't be covered - they'll simply state there was an electrical problem at your house which caused the charger to blow - either that or lack of proper care.
5.) Charger is blown
quote:General wear and tear, won't be covered.
6.) The feet underneath the laptop need new rubbers – i have put some temperate ones there
quote:General wear and tear, won't be covered.
7.) Maybe if possible, new case scratched and a bit bent
This point may also screw you over if you try for a repair/replacement because it is an obvious sign of lack of care.
quote:Won't be covered. This is partially lack of care (charge cycling etc) as well as just how things are - batteries wear down.
8.) The battery is really bad, you get 40mins out of it from full charge
Set your laptop to run on a less power intense power scheme when running off batteries and you may get a slight bit more use from a charge.
RE: Laptop fucked, don't know what to do... by Nathan on 11-17-2007 at 11:18 AM
First of all, I have an extended warranty that I paid money for Chris. I have had problems with the webcam before and it was a physical problem and its the same again
My keys have come off before and they have replaced the keyboard, my charger hs blown before and they replaced it. All for free of charge.
Don't forget i paid for this warrenty like £200
RE: Laptop fucked, don't know what to do... by ShawnZ on 11-17-2007 at 04:29 PM
quote:
Originally posted by Napbree
First of all, I have an extended warranty that I paid money for Chris. I have had problems with the webcam before and it was a physical problem and its the same again
My keys have come off before and they have replaced the keyboard, my charger hs blown before and they replaced it. All for free of charge.
Don't forget i paid for this warrenty like £200
just because you paid £200 for a warranty, doesn't mean they're going to cover you breaking your own laptop. missing physical keys from a laptop is a HUGE indicator that any damage is accidental.
RE: Laptop fucked, don't know what to do... by Nathan on 11-17-2007 at 06:52 PM
ShawnZ, keys have come off before and i have sent it back and they fixed it with no problems!
Everyone else: I tried reinstalling xp and it keeps corrupting itself so its defiantly the hard drive.
I will be sending it back tommorow
RE: Laptop fucked, don't know what to do... by Adeptus on 11-17-2007 at 06:56 PM
quote:Actually, accidental damage coverage like Dell Total Care will usually fix/replace anything, no questions asked.
Originally posted by ShawnZ
just because you paid £200 for a warranty, doesn't mean they're going to cover you breaking your own laptop. missing physical keys from a laptop is a HUGE indicator that any damage is accidental.
I know someone who intentionally threw their Dell Total Care covered laptop out the window to get a fresh replacement -- he did. It's really an insurance policy more than warranty, and as long as there's not an axe still stuck in the remains you send them, they can't prove and won't even try to claim the damage was intentional.
RE: Laptop fucked, don't know what to do... by Voldemort on 11-17-2007 at 07:05 PM
quote:Ycopy will do the job without asking if you want to skip anything, and saves everything that can't be copied in a txt file so you can know.
Originally posted by Napbree
Thanks chris, Does anyone know any software that will copy everything, and if it cant copy it, it will ignore it?
RE: Laptop fucked, don't know what to do... by Nathan on 11-17-2007 at 07:17 PM
A bit late now, i kinda broke it 