Wil Messenger Plus! Live 4.50 be compatible with the new WLM 9.0?
I hope it will. or i wont be sure whether to go to WLM 9.0 and no plus, or 8.5 with the new plus, and skinning

it wont be.

How are you so sure about it?

look at every other one... plus 3.xx didnt work with the wlm 8.0 betas... and wlm9 is having a heap of changes to its API and that =\

how many times has this been posted already?

There may be a chance it will work, like it did to 8.5, we'll just have to wait and see.

9.0 is beta. beta changes. So if it was it would have to be updated all the time..

The beta hasn't even started yet ...

Messenger Plus! will work on Windows Live Messenger 9, when Patchou releases an update (if it's not working already).

NanaFreak: I think there's a new API, that doesn't mean the old API is changed/removed. It's possible though.

Patchou said it wont. Not until wlm 9 gets to beta at least i suppose, it doesnt make sense to make it compatible with a program that hasnt even been released as an alpha version

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Originally posted by vikke
(if it's not working already).

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And anyway, Patchou probably has it only start up with version 8.x so that if there was to be a problem then Plus! wouldn't start.  Patchou is not silly and always makes sure that his releases work perfectly for what they are set out for and makes sure they are thouroughly tested with the version before release.

Also the protocol and engine have probably changed enough to cause problems with plus! (they seem to do that with every new major build) so I would presume that the same would be happening here.

I don't intend to make it work for now no, except if the fixes are very easy to make. Remember that WLM9 will be tested privately for now and that it will be an alpha version, nothing any of you not reporting to Microsoft should consider installing on his computer.

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Originally posted by markee

Personally I suggest you stay with the lastest table build of 8.5, animated DPs aren't worth losing Plus! IMHO.

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Originally posted by riahc4
Signing in is alot faster and there are alot more changes.

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Originally posted by riahc4
I personally dont agree with Patchou's method; Plus! should be compatible with beta/alpha/RC/etc versions of Messenger. I know its difficuly but it would make it a even better program

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One of the points that Patchou makes when giving his beta versions to beta testers of WLM is that they must check if the bug is in WLM or Plus as it can be easily mixed up.  When you are beta testing a program it is to report it's bugs, not to get it's new features before your friends.  If you want to use a beta version of WLM then your first priority should be on finding its bugs and reporting them without interference of ANY add-ons.  Plus bets of course get tested on these beta versions of WLM but should never be released because both are changing so much and it can lead to many problems when the next build comes around and he has to recode features for compatibility.  This is not a good thing when releases can actally cost Patchou money because of the excess bandwidth usages (like what atchou is planning will happen with 4.50).  It is best to just release a stable add-on for a stable messenger, don't you agree?  I would hate for either MS or Patchou to be wrongfully accused of bugs when it isn't their fault as it was caused by the other program or was caused due to changes in protocol.

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Originally posted by Felu
Releasing Plus! compatible with Alpha/Beta versions encourages people to use the Alpha/Beta they aren't supposed to.

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Originally posted by markee
One of the points that Patchou makes when giving his beta versions to beta testers of WLM is that they must check if the bug is in WLM or Plus as it can be easily mixed up.  When you are beta testing a program it is to report it's bugs, not to get it's new features before your friends. If you want to use a beta version of WLM then your first priority should be on finding its bugs and reporting them without interference of ANY add-ons.

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Although this is an interesting and justified discusison, it turned out that no real work was required to enable compatibility with WLM9 so it has been done. Some features may not work completely but as Cookie said, I'm not about to waste too much time on something that's meant to change .

I'm one of the BETA tester for WLM.
Yesterday Microsoft has released the BETA version (9.0) of WLM.

The "Plus!" menu item still shows but when I click on it, I get only 2 items listed.
"Software Not Loaded..."
"About MessengerPlus"

As usual, I'm sure Patchou will patch this

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Originally posted by markee

Personally I suggest you stay with the lastest table build of 8.5, animated DPs aren't worth losing Plus! IMHO.

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Signing in is alot faster and there are alot more changes.

I personally dont agree with Patchou's method; Plus! should be compatible with beta/alpha/RC/etc versions of Messenger. I know its difficuly but it would make it a even better program

Of course Plus! on beta/alpha versions should only be tested internally by beta testers.

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Originally posted by Rolando

Guess what... Once again.. we don't care what you think or what you want. Once more you would only want this for your personal benefit.. but guess what.. we're no fools.

Patchou calls the shots. Not you, not me, not us collectively. One man, one program, indivisible, with dictatorship and spyware features for all.

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Patchou calls the shots. Not you, not me, not us collectively. One man, one program, indivisible, with dictatorship and spyware features for all.

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Originally posted by riahc4
Does kissing Patchou's ass help you anything in life?

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riahc4 within the last week or so you've just been too arrogant and stubborn on here, reminding me of how you were when TB let you test stuffplug and manage his forums

and I agree with everyone elses opinions, why should patchou make you a tester or make plus compatible with every gamma, alpha, beta omega whatever, during 8.0 testing the bugs between Plus Live and WLM itself just became sooo confusing with Patchou actually managing to fix some bugs that were actually WLM bugs. it's better that our main concentration goes towards 8.5 for now

let'ssssss close this down shall we.