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Internet surcharges for music downloads? by MeEtc on 02-22-2008 at 03:26 AM

There was just an article on the news hereon TV, about a suggestion about adding a $5 surcharge on all high speed Internet bills in Canada that would be profiting the recording industry. And the up-side? The ability to download share music files online, legally.

Now, this is just an idea that was presented to the government by the recording industry, but I thought it would be interesting to hear what others have to say. Personally, I wouldn't mind it. I know that most of the members on here probably don't pay their own bills yet, but still, give your thoughts.

The other side of the coin here is that the fee would be mandatory, even for people who do not download music files.

EDIT: found the article for it online. Most of the readers don't seem to like it though.
http://www.ctv.ca/servlet/ArticleNews/story/CTVNe...0080221?hub=Canada


RE: Internet surcharges for music downloads? by Voldemort on 02-22-2008 at 04:21 AM

i don't think i'd mind, it would make 6,000 songs legal :p


RE: Internet surcharges for music downloads? by Dane on 02-22-2008 at 04:29 AM

thats $60/year of "Music Surcharges"...which is also pointless, because they make up half the numbers about piracy of music as it is.  The MPAA has similar tactics....in my opinion, music should be available for free online anyway, because you're using your connection that you already pay ridiculous prices for to download and a lot of people "try before they buy", like myself...if I hear a really good CD from a download, i'll buy it...I did that recently with the "OneRepublic" CD.  So no, I don't think there should be a surcharge.


RE: Internet surcharges for music downloads? by RebelSean on 02-22-2008 at 05:39 AM

I personally would not mind, actually I would encourage companies in America to do this. I think it'd stop a lot of heat coming from artists :tongue:.


RE: Internet surcharges for music downloads? by Th3rmal on 02-22-2008 at 06:12 AM

lol voted for the wrong thing


RE: Internet surcharges for music downloads? by -dt- on 02-22-2008 at 06:13 AM

and then another $5 for legal movies, then another $5 for legal applications..... :P


RE: Internet surcharges for music downloads? by Th3rmal on 02-22-2008 at 06:18 AM

quote:
Originally posted by -dt-
and then another $5 for legal movies, then another $5 for legal applications..... :P
id be willing to pay $200 for all things on the net to be legal :P;)
RE: Internet surcharges for music downloads? by MeEtc on 02-22-2008 at 06:21 AM

quote:
Originally posted by rm rulz
lol voted for the wrong thing
then change your vote?
quote:
* You voted for this item. [Undo]

RE: Internet surcharges for music downloads? by -dt- on 02-22-2008 at 06:21 AM

quote:
Originally posted by rm rulz
quote:
Originally posted by -dt-
and then another $5 for legal movies, then another $5 for legal applications..... :P
id be willing to pay $200 for all things on the net to be legal :P;)
a month? are you insane
RE: Internet surcharges for music downloads? by ShawnZ on 02-22-2008 at 06:26 AM

quote:
Originally posted by RebelSean
I personally would not mind, actually I would encourage companies in America to do this. I think it'd stop a lot of heat coming from artists :tongue:.

heat coming from artists? artists are setting up foundations AGAINST what the mpaa is doing. they're not in any favour of suing people.
RE: Internet surcharges for music downloads? by Th3rmal on 02-22-2008 at 06:31 AM

quote:
Originally posted by -dt-
quote:
Originally posted by rm rulz
quote:
Originally posted by -dt-
and then another $5 for legal movies, then another $5 for legal applications..... :P
id be willing to pay $200 for all things on the net to be legal :P;)
a month? are you insane
per year ;)
RE: Internet surcharges for music downloads? by Eddie on 02-22-2008 at 07:18 AM

I would definately pay $5 a month if that rule was incurred, but if you could get away with it like you could right now then i would not bother.


RE: Internet surcharges for music downloads? by vaccination on 02-22-2008 at 09:59 AM

quote:
Originally posted by -dt-
and then another $5 for legal movies, then another $5 for legal applications..... :P
Agreed.

The record companies are just greedy bitches, and I think they're only going to get less popular and eventually loose
RE: Internet surcharges for music downloads? by Jarrod on 02-22-2008 at 10:24 AM

um... http://www.qtrax.com
http://qtrax.com/whatsonqtrax.html
free legal music


RE: Internet surcharges for music downloads? by aNILEator on 02-22-2008 at 10:26 AM

It'd become too complicated, such as, oh you can only download 2 albums worth from our DRM site, or 1 movie a week or something from our website with only older films on from a few companies.


RE: Internet surcharges for music downloads? by Jesus on 02-22-2008 at 02:27 PM

I don't think it's a good idea.
Some people will be charged without ever downloading any music (yes they still exist) and, as said before, if they gets this through, then what's next? Then they will have to do the same for movies, software, games (if that isn't categorised under software) and maybe even more in the future.
Also, who's going to check whether the extra money actually goes to the artists who should receive it? Here in the Netherlands we have something called "Stichting Thuiskopie" which should receive and distribute these kinds of fees (eg. we have a fee on empty cds/dvds/etc, that's why I buy those in germany:P) but they have been criticised multiple times for keeping too much of the money for themselves.

Besides, I can already download music and movies legally here. Downloading pirated software is illegal, and so is uploading of any of the above, but I'm willing to take that risk.


RE: Internet surcharges for music downloads? by Menthix on 02-22-2008 at 03:08 PM

Doesn't sound like a good idea. Where will the money go to? Probably only organizations like the RIAA and big record labels, while smaller artist are left out.



RE: Internet surcharges for music downloads? by Ezra on 02-22-2008 at 04:46 PM

They are doing almost the same thing here in the Netherlands, but with empty cd's and dvd's. Didn't work either :P, they have a big bank account with millions of euros and the artists did not get antything.


RE: Internet surcharges for music downloads? by Aeryn on 02-22-2008 at 09:52 PM

If it actually went to the ones who made the music, then it would be a good idea. I download very little music though, but instead I'm quite the movie addict - and I wouldn't mind paying a certain fee for downloading movies. But, as I said, only if it went to the right people. I'm not interested in supporting those who did absolutely nothing to create the work of art I download.


RE: Internet surcharges for music downloads? by SikStyles on 02-22-2008 at 09:53 PM

It's a good idea but it's one of those fairy tale ideas. You'd technically be paying for loads of albums with just 5 bucks. This would do more damage, though yet again 5 bucks a month is atleast something rather than nothing aaand yet again this possibility means even more people will download music.


RE: Internet surcharges for music downloads? by Supersonicdarky on 02-22-2008 at 10:21 PM

Pft, no. No money would go to the artists and legal downloads are boring. Internet is already overpriced anyway. All these points have already been made but o well.

I would gladly pay $5/mo for all you can download 1080HD anime :cheesy:


RE: Internet surcharges for music downloads? by freak544 on 02-22-2008 at 11:38 PM

quote:
Originally posted by xen0h
um... http://www.qtrax.com
http://qtrax.com/whatsonqtrax.html
free legal music

It doesn't work for me all it says is "downloads coming soon"

It would be a good idea but if they limit it people will still download illegaly

They need to come up with an idea that will work and make everyone happy
RE: Internet surcharges for music downloads? by Jarrod on 02-23-2008 at 12:31 AM

quote:
Originally posted by freak544
quote:
Originally posted by xen0h
um... http://www.qtrax.com
http://qtrax.com/whatsonqtrax.html
free legal music

It doesn't work for me all it says is "downloads coming soon"

http://www.qtrax.com/download.html
or direct exe file http://qtrax-cdod-r1.vitalstreamcdn.com/Player/Qt...a_windows-i686.exe
RE: Internet surcharges for music downloads? by freak544 on 02-23-2008 at 03:54 PM

quote:
Originally posted by xen0h
quote:
Originally posted by freak544
quote:
Originally posted by xen0h
um... http://www.qtrax.com
http://qtrax.com/whatsonqtrax.html
free legal music

It doesn't work for me all it says is "downloads coming soon"


http://www.qtrax.com/download.html
or direct exe file http://qtrax-cdod-r1.vitalstreamcdn.com/Player/Qt...a_windows-i686.exe

I will try the second link as I have already tryed the first
RE: Internet surcharges for music downloads? by Quantum on 02-23-2008 at 04:07 PM

Nah, i wouldn't do it. I'm not in Canada though.


RE: Internet surcharges for music downloads? by Phillip on 02-23-2008 at 04:44 PM

If they provided a site for me to download music off with the type of music I listen to then yes, otherwise no. There will be no point.