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Reinstalling Windows without actually losing installed programs/drivers theory by Mike on 03-27-2008 at 04:21 PM

Suppose I copy the Program Files and Windows folder (especially the Windows\system32\config folder), format the HDD, and reinstall Windows.
Now, as soon as Windows finishes copying the files, instead of booting into Windows to continue the installation, you would boot into an other OS, and copy back the files you previously copied. Then, you would boot into Windows and it should be pretty much the same before formatting.

Would that work?
It should work, I can't see why it wouldn't work :-/

Btw, this would be done one the same computer, not two different computers.


RE: Reinstalling Windows without actually losing installed programs/drivers theory by Quantum on 03-27-2008 at 04:23 PM

Yeah, why not. It just the same unless your drive letter has changed.


RE: Reinstalling Windows without actually losing installed programs/drivers theory by Nathan on 03-27-2008 at 04:37 PM

What about registry settings.


RE: Reinstalling Windows without actually losing installed programs/drivers theory by andrey on 03-27-2008 at 04:40 PM

Even if it worked, what would be the point of it? When you copy your old folders back to the new installation, you would copy all the maybe faulty registry settings and files back aswell.

quote:
Originally posted by Nathan
What about registry settings.
Registry settings would be stored in the Windows\System32\Config folder.

But tbh I doubt this would work anyway.
RE: Reinstalling Windows without actually losing installed programs/drivers theory by Jesus on 03-27-2008 at 04:53 PM

you could end up with some dodgy problems in the end...
eg. drive letter problems because of the \DosDevices\* entries in HKLM\SYSTEM\MountedDevices\ (that is, if you repartition your hdd) and missing user settings (Local Settings, Application Data, HKCU registry, etc.) unless you copy the Documents and Settings folder too, but that would make the format even more pointless.

If you really wanted to do anything like that, you've chosen the wrong OS ;)
Windows is just way too cluttered and messy by design to let stuff like that work without any problems.


RE: Reinstalling Windows without actually losing installed programs/drivers theory by Dr4g0n on 03-27-2008 at 06:47 PM

What would this achieve anyway? Seems pretty pointless.


RE: Reinstalling Windows without actually losing installed programs/drivers theory by Adeptus on 03-27-2008 at 07:15 PM

What you just described is called "restoring a full backup".  Instead of copying files yourself and screwing around with another OS, you could just use backup software designed for this purpose -- ntbackup.exe that comes with XP, Backup Exec, etc.

Anyway, if you are trying to solve an actual problem, it might work better if you can tell us what the problem is...


RE: Reinstalling Windows without actually losing installed programs/drivers theory by CookieRevised on 03-27-2008 at 07:36 PM

It wouldn't work at all....


RE: Reinstalling Windows without actually losing installed programs/drivers theory by Mike on 03-27-2008 at 07:36 PM

Thanks for the information guys :)

Not trying to fix anything, I was just wondering if it was possible ;)

However, it may come in handy, since I have to format my laptop every few months due to that faulty HDD...


RE: Reinstalling Windows without actually losing installed programs/drivers theory by NiteMare on 03-27-2008 at 09:38 PM

quote:
Originally posted by Mike
However, it may come in handy, since I have to format my laptop every few months due to that faulty HDD...
theres an easier fix for that: replace the hard drive
RE: Reinstalling Windows without actually losing installed programs/drivers theory by Mike on 03-27-2008 at 09:43 PM

quote:
Originally posted by NiteMare
quote:
Originally posted by Mike
However, it may come in handy, since I have to format my laptop every few months due to that faulty HDD...
theres an easier fix for that: replace the hard drive
Buy me a hard drive and I'll happily do that :P
RE: Reinstalling Windows without actually losing installed programs/drivers theory by NiteMare on 03-27-2008 at 10:13 PM

quote:
Originally posted by Mike
quote:
Originally posted by NiteMare
quote:
Originally posted by Mike
However, it may come in handy, since I have to format my laptop every few months due to that faulty HDD...
theres an easier fix for that: replace the hard drive
Buy me a hard drive and I'll happily do that :P
give me the money and sure :P
RE: Reinstalling Windows without actually losing installed programs/drivers theory by Th3rmal on 03-28-2008 at 04:53 AM

IIRC if you are using windows Vista, you can do a thing called Special Copy (not too sure on the name i have to go back into my pc magazines and search for it), basically it moves everything to the designated folder, correcting all settings and registry files connected to that folder, then after your done you can run it again and put it back in its rightful place. i'll put up more info when i can be bothered going and digging out my mag.


RE: Reinstalling Windows without actually losing installed programs/drivers theory by andrewdodd13 on 03-28-2008 at 10:32 AM

It could work, if you were lucky. But I don't see the point in it since all you'd be doing is replacing the Windows files, which can be done with a repair install anyway.

If you're trying to get a base system every time you re-format, the best way is to make an image of your base install using something like True Image, and then burn that to a DVD. Every time you need to reinstall, just restore that image.


RE: RE: Reinstalling Windows without actually losing installed programs/drivers theory by segosa on 03-31-2008 at 02:44 AM

quote:
Originally posted by andrey
Even if it worked, what would be the point of it? When you copy your old folders back to the new installation, you would copy all the maybe faulty registry settings and files back aswell.
quote:
Originally posted by Nathan
What about registry settings.
Registry settings would be stored in the Windows\System32\Config folder.

But tbh I doubt this would work anyway.

as well as C:\Documents and Settings\All Users and C:\Documents and Settings\{user}
RE: Reinstalling Windows without actually losing installed programs/drivers theory by ShawnZ on 03-31-2008 at 03:28 AM

quote:
Originally posted by Mike
Suppose I copy the Program Files and Windows folder (especially the Windows\system32\config folder), format the HDD, and reinstall Windows.
Now, as soon as Windows finishes copying the files, instead of booting into Windows to continue the installation, you would boot into an other OS, and copy back the files you previously copied. Then, you would boot into Windows and it should be pretty much the same before formatting.

you wouldn't even need to reinstall windows, because you'd just be replacing every file it installs with the old versions. you could just format and copy everything back, and you'd have the same effect. though, if you're doing it because of a failing hard drive, why not just run chkdsk?
RE: Reinstalling Windows without actually losing installed programs/drivers theory by Jarrod on 03-31-2008 at 06:09 AM

quote:
Originally posted by ShawnZ
quote:
Originally posted by Mike
Suppose I copy the Program Files and Windows folder (especially the Windows\system32\config folder), format the HDD, and reinstall Windows.
Now, as soon as Windows finishes copying the files, instead of booting into Windows to continue the installation, you would boot into an other OS, and copy back the files you previously copied. Then, you would boot into Windows and it should be pretty much the same before formatting.

you wouldn't even need to reinstall windows, because you'd just be replacing every file it installs with the old versions. you could just format and copy everything back, and you'd have the same effect. though, if you're doing it because of a failing hard drive, why not just run chkdsk?

you'd need boot ini but if you just coppied all the needed files it would probally work but, may be pointless, it won't fix an installation error but might help migrating hard disks, but you could just use some sort of disk image app

RE: Reinstalling Windows without actually losing installed programs/drivers theory by Mike on 03-31-2008 at 11:32 AM

I wasn't talking about replacing files that already exist, but just merging the directories.


RE: Reinstalling Windows without actually losing installed programs/drivers theory by Jarrod on 03-31-2008 at 11:44 AM

quote:
Originally posted by Mike
I wasn't talking about replacing files that already exist, but just merging the directories.
well try it,,, i'll give you an Australian penny:P...
RE: Reinstalling Windows without actually losing installed programs/drivers theory by CookieRevised on 03-31-2008 at 04:57 PM

quote:
Originally posted by Mike
I wasn't talking about replacing files that already exist, but just merging the directories.
What do you understand about "merging" in that case?

Because for starters you also would have files which already exist on the almost-installed-Windows, thus those need to be replaced by the backup. If you mean merging as in one-way-syncronizing, then you wont replace any existing file, just copying not-yet-existing files.

For something like that to work, in theory, you at the least need a "replace" in the true sense of the word since there will be files which are already on the almost-installed-Windows which you need to update (eg: registry hives).

So a merge as in "one-way-syncronizing" will never work, even not in theory.

;)

JBut just make a ghost image. That's the most easiest and fastest way to put Windows back as it was. Much faster than formatting, reinstalling, merging, etc... and fix your drive, or buy another one :p