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Laptop is heating up VERY quickly by Quantum on 06-16-2008 at 08:43 PM
Well i have an acer aspire 5715z (ok acer sucks, but i have what i have) and within 10 minutes of power 
on its getting very very hot. Now its not on a desk or anything but before it would take like 50 - 60 minutes before i felt heat.
The fan is working ( i can hear it ) 
What do you guys advise me to do? 
RE: Laptop is heating up VERY quickly by user35870 on 06-16-2008 at 09:00 PM
A laptop cooling mat (one with electric powered fans) should help, here's one from amazon:
My-Link 3 Fans USB Laptop Cooler Pad Mat
You could also probably pick up one from your local computer shop.
RE: Laptop is heating up VERY quickly by Mike on 06-16-2008 at 09:00 PM
Buy a laptop cooling stand?
RE: Laptop is heating up VERY quickly by absorbation on 06-16-2008 at 09:03 PM
Have you been keeping it in the sun, that caused my laptop to heat quicker recently.
RE: Laptop is heating up VERY quickly by Quantum on 06-16-2008 at 09:08 PM
Thanks I'll order one. Is there anything i can do now? As in right now?
RE: Laptop is heating up VERY quickly by user35870 on 06-16-2008 at 09:17 PM
Hi,
Insure the machine is kept out of direct sunlight and ensure the laptops feet are firmly on the table so there is enough space for the fans to circulate the air.
RE: Laptop is heating up VERY quickly by CookieRevised on 06-16-2008 at 10:10 PM
First check if there is any process causing constant CPU strain...
Check your Task Manager. If everything shows as 0% CPU most of the time (except for "System Idle Process" of course, that should be 99% or 100% most of the time) when you're doing nothing on the PC, then follow the above suggestions.
If not and there is something which is constantly putting strain on the CPU, find out what that process belongs to and take action accordingly (eg: kill that process, uninstall the app, etc) and see if it makes a difference.
Even a laptop cooling stand wouldn't fix such high temps if it is that bad after just 10 minutes like you say it is. Such a cooling mat or stand is just a workaround, something to disguise a big problem, it's not a fix. If your laptop heats up like that it means something is really not good inside (eg: blockage of airflow, loose heatsink, etc).
RE: Laptop is heating up VERY quickly by Aeryn on 06-17-2008 at 09:39 AM
I have a similar question. According to Everest, the GPU temperature of my laptop is always around 57 to 60 C (and hard drive is around 39), and that's during very light use (browsing the internet or typing in OpenOffice). Is that normal for laptops?
It's a new laptop, so it can't be dusty, and it always gets used on the desk. It also doesn't feel that hot at all. The specific model name is an Estonian one (Ordi Enduro 5290BF), so it's probably not much help here, but apparently its "barebone" is Compal FL90/FL92.
RE: Laptop is heating up VERY quickly by Voldemort on 06-17-2008 at 03:05 PM
Well... my laptop does not have heating issues, but as one of the vents is on the bottom side of the laptop and it only has like 1-2mm to get air, what I did was make out of some metal a stand that keeps the laptop a bit more separated from the surface, and the metal acts as a not very efficient heat sink.
RE: Laptop is heating up VERY quickly by Nagamasa on 06-17-2008 at 07:58 PM
Yeah my Acer has a cooling problem too (Aspire 5630).
It can overheat when Word, Powerpoint, Photoshop, Dreamweaver, and Firefox are all running for a while. I have to keep it slightly elevated with Lego blocks...and I recall once that didn't even help
Probably just because Acer sucks (As I have now learned)...
RE: Laptop is heating up VERY quickly by CookieRevised on 06-17-2008 at 11:40 PM
bottom line: don't buy a laptop with vents or inlets at the bottom.
RE: Laptop is heating up VERY quickly by Panos on 06-20-2008 at 09:45 AM
quote:
Originally posted by john-t
Well i have an acer aspire 5715z (ok acer sucks, but i have what i have) and within 10 minutes of power
The fan is working ( i can hear it )
What do you guys advise me to do?
ok yeah....it is heating up very quickly...so?are you afraid of something?I mean like do you think it will blow up?
RE: Laptop is heating up VERY quickly by vaccination on 06-20-2008 at 09:49 AM
quote:Well, yes. Overheating is a serious issue.
Originally posted by Panos
ok yeah....it is heating up very quickly...so?are you afraid of something?I mean like do you think it will blow up?
RE: Laptop is heating up VERY quickly by mattisdada on 06-20-2008 at 12:20 PM
What you fail to release, is heat, is most things number 1 enemy.
Like humans, computer, electrical components. Proper chemical and physical(wrong word i think but oh well) dont occur properly in high temperatures(and low).
So, if heat wasnt a problem, most peoples computers would be running 5-6x faster then they do now. There would be VERY little limitations.
RE: Laptop is heating up VERY quickly by Voldemort on 06-20-2008 at 03:52 PM
quote:erm no
Originally posted by mattisdada
Proper chemical and physical(wrong word i think but oh well) dont occur properly in high temperatures(and low).
it varies.
RE: Laptop is heating up VERY quickly by vaccination on 06-20-2008 at 04:07 PM
quote:Indeed. In fact most things have more energy at higher temperatures as the particles in said object(be it a chemical, gas, piece of wood etc) move faster the hotter they are. This is why things react together when you heat them up. It's all to do with the amount of collisions per second in a reaction, as that is what causes the reaction, particles hitting together. When you heat something it's particles subsequently move faster, resulting in more collisions per second(and some of a higher force, because the particles have to hit each other above a certain speed too, but that's another story) which makes the reaction occur.
Originally posted by Voldemort
quote:erm no
Originally posted by mattisdada
Proper chemical and physical(wrong word i think but oh well) dont occur properly in high temperatures(and low).
it varies.
The reason reactions stop at low temperatures is because the particles slow down and cannot react as fast. When you get down to absolute zero(0Kelvin or -273.15 Centigrade) the particles are said to have stopped moving altogether(but this is impossible to achieve artificially).
Er, anyway, the reason overheating is dangerous in computers(and life in general) is not because of any chemical related issues, but simply because the heat will damage the component, eg catching fire, melting, exploding etc. Sometimes it can be as simple as some solder being loosened and so some pins aren't connected properly etc. In humans the case is the same, overheating would lead to cells being destroyed - for example, on your skin the cells simply get burned. The rest of your body is mainly effected by heat in the form of dehydration however, and that is likely to kill you before you are burned alive(unless exposed to extreme heat or fire ofcourse ;p).
RE: RE: Laptop is heating up VERY quickly by CookieRevised on 06-21-2008 at 02:23 AM
A few things are mixed up here, I'll try to explain:
quote:Absolutely correct. But for those who are wondering now, all the above is for chemistry only.
Originally posted by vaccination
quote:Indeed. In fact most things have more energy at higher temperatures as the particles in said object(be it a chemical, gas, piece of wood etc) move faster the hotter they are. This is why things react together when you heat them up. It's all to do with the amount of collisions per second in a reaction, as that is what causes the reaction, particles hitting together. When you heat something it's particles subsequently move faster, resulting in more collisions per second(and some of a higher force, because the particles have to hit each other above a certain speed too, but that's another story) which makes the reaction occur.
Originally posted by Voldemort
quote:erm no
Originally posted by mattisdada
Proper chemical and physical(wrong word i think but oh well) dont occur properly in high temperatures(and low).
it varies.
The reason reactions stop at low temperatures is because the particles slow down and cannot react as fast. When you get down to absolute zero(0Kelvin or -273.15 Centigrade) the particles are said to have stopped moving altogether(but this is impossible to achieve artificially).
With computers we are talking about electricity, which is something different than chemistry (well, not exactly, but electricity is a special property of chemistry).
With electricity the temperature should be as low as possible (in general), prefereable as close to the absolute zero point (0°K or -273.15°C) as possible.
The reason behind this is that the hotter a conductor gets, the more electric resistance it will give.(*1)
When a conductor gets close to or is at the absolute zero temperature point, the resistance will be zero. When there is no (or close to zero) electrical resistance we are speaking of superconductors (something you've probably already heared about).
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quote:That _is_ chemistry and has _everything_ todo with chemical and physical properties of stuff though....
Originally posted by vaccination
Er, anyway, the reason overheating is dangerous in computers(and life in general) is not because of any chemical related issues, but simply because the heat will damage the component, eg catching fire, melting, exploding etc.
So, heat is also indeed bad for damaging components. The reason for this is exactly because of the chemical and physical properties of the components. As you said so yourself, the hotter something gets to quicker the atoms and molucules will move and the quicker they will react with others.
So, if a component gets extremely hot, it will melt, bend, warp, evaporate, explode, break down.... The chemical reactions become quicker, become more violent...
On the other hand, some combinations and bonding of materials do not react very well to cold either and it will damage the components just as well!!! So, dipping your entire PC into liquid nitrogen or putting 'dry ice' (solid CO2) on it, will damage it also for sure. (*2)
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* Both (1) and (2) are some of the reasons why overclockers put a special cylinder on top of the CPU to put dry ice or liquid nitrogen in, instead of putting it all over the place. In that way, components which can't tolorate extreme cold temperatures (like almost everything in the PC) wont be damaged, while the only part which needs to be cooled gets a cold shock**.
** is actually not very good either though!! Hence we speak of 'shock'. It is far better to gradually lower the temperature instead.
Then there is also the issue of condensation (another chemical reaction). When you lower the temperature of a gas, it will react with objects and form condensation. So, water vapor in the air will condens on the components. And as we all know putting electricity and water together is a bad idea, at least in this case, since water conducts electricity too.. so you can get short circuits***.
*** And that is the reason why you should always leave an electronic device OFF when you bring it from the cooler outside to the warmer inside. Water vapor in the room air will form condensation when it comes in touch with the cooler objects (coming from the outside). So, you should always wait a while before turning it on so that the objects can warm up to room temp and that possible condensation can evaporate again.
Thus, even if you're extatic about that new device you bought and want to try it out immediatly when you get home, do not!!! Let it 'rest' for a while before you turn it on; let the components gradually warm up to the room temperature, this is called 'acclimatization'.
Of course, the same goes for when you bring an electronic device from the inside to the outside in summer, when it is hotter outside then inside.
This also goes for laptops btw!!!!
**** I will stop linking stuff together now
RE: Laptop is heating up VERY quickly by mattisdada on 06-21-2008 at 05:30 AM
Very good explanation Cookie 