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Which one? by Nathan on 09-03-2008 at 09:04 PM
Hey,
I'm buying a new laptop in a few days. And I have a few choices (alienware ftw 
). Basically I am wondering whether to get one of the following:
320GB 7200rpm With free fall protection
OR
400GB 5400rmp without free fall.
Im almost certain about the 320 one having a better "specs/space ratio".
So, the 320 or 400?
Thanks 
RE: Which one? by prashker on 09-03-2008 at 09:20 PM
320GB one....5400rpm is scrotum bad
And plus it ahs FreeFall protection, whatever that is.
But if you're posting this just for no reason knowing well that you'll need 400GB because it's more space, dunno
RE: Which one? by Stigmata on 09-03-2008 at 09:30 PM
Can't you tell us the rest of the laptop's specs and prices?
RE: Which one? by ipab on 09-03-2008 at 10:02 PM
I must say that after being a computer tech for the past 3 years and dealing with customers' broken laptops, I would definitely go for the free fall protection. You'd be surprised how easy laptop HDDs crap out.
RE: Which one? by andrewdodd13 on 09-03-2008 at 10:21 PM
Yeah, go for the 7200RPM one.
If the shock-resistance actually works, it won't make a blind bit of difference if you actually drop the damned thing: The screen will crack, and they are £100-£200 to replace, depending on size.
RE: Which one? by Nathan on 09-03-2008 at 10:37 PM
quote:Alienware m15x (I cba to type out the whole spec) but its 2k
Originally posted by Stigmata
Can't you tell us the rest of the laptop's specs and prices?
And yeah it has "g-sensors" which lock the needle agaisnt the platter to stop it scratching or something
RE: Which one? by Adeptus on 09-04-2008 at 04:57 AM
It's a case where you need to decide what your priorities are.
The 5400rpm drive should give you 25% more space, better battery life and lower noise (including fan noise).
The 7200rpm drive should be expected to give better performance, although it would be easier to comment on that if we knew exactly what drives we are talking about (some higher aerial density 5400rpm drives easily tie 7200rpm models).
RE: Which one? by Nathan on 09-04-2008 at 11:49 AM
Yeah there is 5400 hybrid which is very similiar to 7200rpm. But yeah how much battery life do I save with 5400?
It's a samsung I think, all it says on the site is:
320GB 7200 RPM SATA with Free Fall Protection [+£201]
400GB 5400 RPM SATA [+£176]
Yeah as you can see, the 320 is slightly more expensive.
RE: Which one? by Kenji on 09-04-2008 at 01:02 PM
Alienware sucks.. and why do they think its ok to charge £200 for a 320GB HDD?
Why not get a thinkpad for half the price?
RE: Which one? by Nathan on 09-04-2008 at 01:11 PM
quote:Thinkpads are horrible :/ I really don't like them. (that's just my opinion)
Originally posted by Dazzy
Alienware sucks.. and why do they think its ok to charge £200 for a 320GB HDD?
Why not get a thinkpad for half the price?
Anyway new question, which one (considering its only .1ghz different and 3mb cache - is that alot more)
Intel® Core™ 2 Duo T8300 2.4GHz (3MB Cache 800MHz FSB) [+£99]
Intel® Core™ 2 Duo T9300 2.5GHz (6MB Cache 800MHz FSB) [+£166]
Thanks
EDIT, oh and dazzy they charge less for more storage:
Single Drive Configuration - 120GB 7200 RPM SATA with Free Fall Protection [Standard]
Single Drive Configuration - 160GB 7200 RPM SATA with Free Fall Protection [+£78]
Single Drive Configuration - 250GB 7200 RPM SATA [+£154]
Single Drive Configuration - 320GB 7200 RPM SATA with Free Fall Protection [+£201]
Single Drive Configuration - 400GB 5400 RPM SATA [+£176]
Single Drive Configuration - 500GB 5400 RPM SATA [+£249]
So actually for £200 I can get 400GB but its only 5400RPM
RE: Which one? by Kenji on 09-04-2008 at 01:24 PM
quote:Well, if you want to buy something that has so many problems then go ahead.
Originally posted by Nathan
Thinkpads are horrible :/ I really don't like them. (that's just my opinion)
quote:you can pick up and 7200 RPM 320GB drive for around £120, same goes for a 5400RPM 400GB drive.
oh and dazzy they charge less for more storage
RE: Which one? by Nathan on 09-04-2008 at 01:25 PM
quote:Had, teething problems
Originally posted by Dazzy
Well, if you want to buy something that has so many problems then go ahead.
, I Was aware of that thread. Believe it or not I've been waiting for one of these babies for months. And It's not as bad as it used to be.Anyway I'm set for a alienware so I'm not changing. And I swear your a thinkpad advertiser :/
RE: Which one? by Kenji on 09-04-2008 at 01:45 PM
quote:Im not. Its just that thinkpads are one of the most reliable brands (Ignoring the SL series). They are built to last, simple as that.
Originally posted by Nathan
And I swear your a thinkpad advertiser :/
Enjoy your ugly and overpriced alienware when you get it.
quote:If you can afford it, get the t9300. though there isnt that much of a performance gain according to this (To me anyway).
Anyway new question, which one (considering its only .1ghz different and 3mb cache - is that alot more)
Intel® Core™ 2 Duo T8300 2.4GHz (3MB Cache 800MHz FSB) [+£99]
Intel® Core™ 2 Duo T9300 2.5GHz (6MB Cache 800MHz FSB) [+£166]
RE: Which one? by Nathan on 09-04-2008 at 02:05 PM
quote:Yeah, and they also look like they're from 1930. And I prefer customization, and choose what I want, I believe the thinkpad doesn't do that.
Originally posted by Dazzy
Im not. Its just that thinkpads are one of the most reliable brands (Ignoring the SL series). They are built to last, simple as that.
Enjoy your ugly and overpriced alienware when you get it.
And the t9300, does seem to have slightly better
RE: RE: Which one? by andrewdodd13 on 09-04-2008 at 04:29 PM
quote:On the other hand - unless you're actually made of money - when you actually have the laptop you'll soon realise that the sheer prices weren't actually worth it.
Originally posted by Nathan
quote:Yeah, and they also look like they're from 1930. And I prefer customization, and choose what I want, I believe the thinkpad doesn't do that.
Originally posted by Dazzy
Im not. Its just that thinkpads are one of the most reliable brands (Ignoring the SL series). They are built to last, simple as that.
Enjoy your ugly and overpriced alienware when you get it.
And the t9300, does seem to have slightly better
I have a £500 laptop from 4 years ago which I still use - the higher spec ones at the time would not be all that much faster these days.
In the hard-disk area, the truly best idea is to go for a small HD - like 120GB or so, that way you can then just pick up a WD Passport 320GB for like £80...
And in CPU intensive stuff you should actually see a large increase in performance with a bigger cache (double the cache is pretty sweet), so if you are going for the best of the best then buy the T9300.
RE: Which one? by Nathan on 09-04-2008 at 05:08 PM
quote:But they where! The acer is future proof for what I need. It has "slot in bays" for extra batterys, cd/blu-ray drives, hard drives etc.
Originally posted by andrewdodd13
On the other hand - unless you're actually made of money - when you actually have the laptop you'll soon realise that the sheer prices weren't actually worth it.
quote:No, I don't even use my WD 500gb hdd at the moment. I use a laptop because I like using it anywhere I want.
Originally posted by andrewdodd13
In the hard-disk area, the truly best idea is to go for a small HD - like 120GB or so, that way you can then just pick up a WD Passport 320GB for like £80...
quote:The T9300 it is then
Originally posted by andrewdodd13
And in CPU intensive stuff you should actually see a large increase in performance with a bigger cache (double the cache is pretty sweet), so if you are going for the best of the best then buy the T9300.
Thanks
RE: Which one? by Menthix on 09-04-2008 at 05:21 PM
quote:HDD protection is designed to protect your data. In most cases you will still have to repair the unit after a drop, the HDD protection is merely there to ensure the data is still there after the repair.
Originally posted by andrewdodd13
If the shock-resistance actually works, it won't make a blind bit of difference if you actually drop the damned thing
RE: Which one? by joey on 09-04-2008 at 05:49 PM
you want the BATES 4000!!!!!!!
you probably wont get it but it keeps me amused.
RE: Which one? by Nathan on 09-07-2008 at 12:54 PM
I've just ordered it 
Design & Display: Silver Skullcap Design
Display: 15.4" WideXGA+ 1440 x 900 LCD (720p) with Clearview Technology with Webcam
System Lighting: Alienware® AlienFX® System Lighting - Aqua
Operating System: Genuine Windows® Vista Home Premium - English
Graphics Processor : 512MB NVidia® GeForce® Go 8800M GTX
Processor: Intel® Core™ 2 Duo T9300 2.5GHz (6MB Cache 800MHz FSB)
Memory: 1GB Dual Channel DDR2 SO-DIMM at 667MHz - 2 x 512MB (ordering my own 4gb of ram)
Turbo Cache Memory: None
System Drive: Single Drive Configuration - 320GB 7200 RPM SATA with Free Fall Protection
CD/DVD/RW: 8x Dual Layer Writer (DVD±RW, CD-RW)
Sound Hardware: Intel® High-Definition Audio (24-bit, 192Khz) with surround sound
Keypad: Alienware® Area-51 m15x AlienFX® Keyboard - English
Wireless Network Card: Internal Intel® Wireless 4965 a/b/g/Draft-N Mini-Card
Additional Power: Additional Battery - Alienware® m15x 6-cell SmartBay Additional Battery (Silver)
Warranty: AlienCare 3-Year Free Phone 24/7 and Collect & Return
AlienContact: Added Bonus with any AlienSupport Selection
AlienContact - Remote Alienware Support
Monitor: (None)
Alienware Extras: Alienware® Mesh Cap
Alienware Extras: Alienware® Personalised Nameplate
Alienware Extras: Custom Alienware® Mousepad
Alienware Extras: Alienware® Owner Identification Card - Included!
Alienware Extras: Area-51® m15x Keyboard Diagram Overlay
Alienware Extras: Area-51® m15x Smooth Mylar Touchpad
Alienware Extras: Area-51® m15x Protective Cloth Sleeve
Avatar: Alienhead 3D
Window Style: Default Vista Window Style
Mouse Pointers: Standard Mouse Pointers
Power Plan: Balanced
Automatic Updates: Automatic Updates On
Time Zones: (GMT + 00.00) Dublin, Edinburgh, Lisbon, London
RE: Which one? by Menthix on 09-07-2008 at 01:29 PM
quote:They configure that for you or something
Originally posted by Nathan
Avatar: Alienhead 3D
Window Style: Default Vista Window Style
Mouse Pointers: Standard Mouse Pointers
Power Plan: Balanced
Automatic Updates: Automatic Updates On
Time Zones: (GMT + 00.00) Dublin, Edinburgh, Lisbon, London
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RE: Which one? by Felu on 09-07-2008 at 01:32 PM
quote:IDK but I surely won't pay extra money for that...
Originally posted by MenthiX
They configure that for you or something ?
RE: Which one? by Menthix on 09-07-2008 at 02:26 PM
Indeed, I was going to say the same. I always format my new PC anyway... my last laptop came pre-installed with Norton and an eBay toolbar 
.
RE: Which one? by prashker on 09-07-2008 at 02:56 PM
price?
RE: Which one? by Voldemort on 09-07-2008 at 03:14 PM
quote:are you aware of how that works?
Originally posted by Nathan
Memory: 1GB Dual Channel DDR2 SO-DIMM at 667MHz - 2 x 512MB (ordering my own 4gb of ram)
RE: Which one? by Nathan on 09-07-2008 at 11:09 PM
sam it was £1987
menthix yeah they configure for free lol
voldemort what do you mean
RE: Which one? by ipab on 09-08-2008 at 12:30 AM
quote:
Originally posted by Nathan
voldemort what do you mean
I think he is referring to this.
RE: Which one? by ShawnZ on 09-08-2008 at 12:37 AM
i think he meant more along the lines of nathan is going to buy the wrong type of RAM
RE: Which one? by prashker on 09-08-2008 at 01:17 AM
quote:what in the god damn scrotum hair...
Originally posted by Nathan
sam it was £1987
I just got a new laptop and it's like yours, but mine has a Blu-ray/HD-DVD reader and 4GB of ram and a 1GB 9600GS instead of a 512 9800GTX.
1350CAD == 893EUR = 717GBP
that's messed up
Unless i'm missing something crucial???
RE: Which one? by Voldemort on 09-08-2008 at 01:33 AM
[20:31] <shawnzs> alright then
[20:31] <shawnzs> tell him he's retarded
[20:31] <shawnzs>
[20:32] <@Effexor> 1987 British pounds = 3537.2574 U.S. dollars
you're retarded
RE: Which one? by ShawnZ on 09-08-2008 at 01:38 AM
holy shit, $3537? he really is retarded
RE: Which one? by prashker on 09-08-2008 at 01:39 AM
and no Nathan if you use a counter argument that you just have the money for it, i won't approve
RE: Which one? by vaccination on 09-08-2008 at 07:13 AM
£1987, jesus, my desktop has better specs and cost me half that.
RE: Which one? by Nathan on 09-08-2008 at 07:30 AM
sam whats your proccesor and my gfx card is better plus im guessing yours is 17 inch
also ill do what i want i dont need you lot questioning what i do.
oh and sam its the 8800gt lol not the 9800
RE: Which one? by prashker on 09-08-2008 at 11:02 AM
quote:no mines 15 inch, T9400 2.5Ghz, 1GB 9600M GS
Originally posted by Nathan
sam whats your proccesor and my gfx card is better plus im guessing yours is 17 inch
if the point you're trying to say is your laptop is better than mine, it's not £1270 better
quote:that's fine but you should probably understand that you are completely wasting your money/your parents money, £1987 is a lot
Originally posted by Nathan
also ill do what i want i dont need you lot questioning what i do.
RE: RE: Which one? by andrewdodd13 on 09-08-2008 at 11:51 AM
quote:A 9800GT is just an 8800GT with triple SLI support.
Originally posted by Nathan
sam whats your proccesor and my gfx card is better plus im guessing yours is 17 inch
also ill do what i want i dont need you lot questioning what i do.
oh and sam its the 8800gt lol not the 9800
All I will say on the matter.
RE: Which one? by Nathan on 09-08-2008 at 06:29 PM
Still, like I said it's up to me what I buy, I happen to like alienware and have wanted one for a long time...
RE: Which one? by ipab on 09-08-2008 at 07:56 PM
quote:
Originally posted by Nathan
Still, like I said it's up to me what I buy, I happen to like alienware and have wanted one for a long time...
Agreed, sometimes I feel like buying something for the sake of buying it, or that I have wanted it for a long time. At that point, the cost is immaterial to me
.
RE: Which one? by Nathan on 09-08-2008 at 09:35 PM
thank you i see you know what im on about
16 in 18 days (26th sept) cant wait
RE: Which one? by vaccination on 09-09-2008 at 11:35 AM
quote:Specially a Dell
Originally posted by SonicSam
if the point you're trying to say is your laptop is better than mine, it's not £1270 better
RE: Which one? by Voldemort on 09-09-2008 at 08:55 PM
quote:I don't know about you, but I own an XPS and its win.
Originally posted by vaccination
Specially a Dell
RE: Which one? by vaccination on 09-09-2008 at 09:17 PM
quote:it's*
Originally posted by Voldemort
quote:I don't know about you, but I own an XPS and its win.
Originally posted by vaccination
Specially a Dell
So is my custom built desktop, and it was at least half the price of Nathan's new laptop(if you bought the parts now it'd be even cheaper). Better specs too.
Not to mention, paying 1k for a brand name is ridiculous, ffc found same spec laptop for £900.
RE: Which one? by Nathan on 09-09-2008 at 09:57 PM
But it looks like shit. Another main factor is smartbay on the alienware which no other laptops have. Also its fully user upgradeable, slot new gfx card in, cpu etc no problem.
plus it doesnt have the bling factor and the cool lights lol. 
RE: Which one? by vaccination on 09-10-2008 at 09:52 AM
quote:My PC looks epic, it has lights too, and guess what, it's also fully user upgradeable, holy shit!
Originally posted by Nathan
But it looks like shit. Another main factor is smartbay on the alienware which no other laptops have. Also its fully user upgradeable, slot new gfx card in, cpu etc no problem.
plus it doesnt have the bling factor and the cool lights lol.
RE: Which one? by Nathan on 09-10-2008 at 06:13 PM
That's a crap comeback tbh . My point is, it's a laptop, not a pc. I need a laptop, not a pc...
RE: Which one? by vaccination on 09-10-2008 at 06:42 PM
My point is, you're paying £1000 more because it says 'Alienware' on it.
RE: Which one? by kao on 09-10-2008 at 10:15 PM
rofl at price.
RE: Which one? by Kenji on 09-10-2008 at 10:20 PM
quote:didnt you buy a MBP?
Originally posted by kao
rofl at price.
RE: Which one? by Jhrono on 09-10-2008 at 10:59 PM
quote:And it's up to us to warn you, since you decided to made this embarassing decision public lol. Nice way to ruin some money.
Originally posted by Nathan
Still, like I said it's up to me what I buy
quote:
Originally posted by Nathan
But it looks like shit.
RIGHT, that must be why Alienware does not dominate the laptop market. DOH!
Lets put it this way :
Alienware = Overpriced with an alien skull, some lights and a wannabe design.
Vaio = Overpriced with no alien skull, good looking design.
Most brands = Reasonably priced, no skull, different lights and good looking design.
I hope you enjoy your laptop but I also would like to think that futurely you'd handle money more wisely. Especially, money that is not yours.
RE: Which one? by Menthix on 09-10-2008 at 11:21 PM
quote:It's too heavy, runs too hot, and dies way too soon without AC power to seriously be considered a laptop. These things are just small form factor PCs.
Originally posted by Nathan
My point is, it's a laptop, not a pc. I need a laptop, not a pc...
RE: Which one? by roflmao456 on 09-10-2008 at 11:31 PM
i've always wanted alienware lolz.
custom pc ftw though
RE: Which one? by ShawnZ on 09-10-2008 at 11:46 PM
quote:
Originally posted by Nathan
I need a laptop
i'm sure you do
RE: Which one? by Nathan on 09-11-2008 at 06:55 PM
shawnz my laptop is broken
menthix the laptop does 4 hours which is awesome for me my old laptop had 50mins
jhrono hmm vaios havent had any exploding batterys or anything...
also my acer ran at 70c at idle im sure this lzaptop will be fine.
and its not wasting money so stfu!
RE: Which one? by Voldemort on 09-11-2008 at 07:36 PM
quote:oh, they had a design flaw once, they're never going to correct it!
Originally posted by Nathan
jhrono hmm vaios havent had any exploding batterys or anything...
quote:laptop + desktop for that price
Originally posted by Nathan
shawnz my laptop is broken
quote:never buy acer. if it idled at 70C, your sensor was broken, you had one dirty laptop or defective.
Originally posted by Nathan
also my acer ran at 70c at idle im sure this lzaptop will be fine.
quote:
Originally posted by Nathan
and its not wasting money so stfu!
hahahaha, second thoughts?
RE: Which one? by Nathan on 09-11-2008 at 08:26 PM
Huh no. no second thougts, someone in pg5 said it was a waste ofmoney but im onmobile so i couldmt quickly see who it was. so yeah it was an indirect reply
RE: Which one? by MeEtc on 09-11-2008 at 09:44 PM
well, when it does arrive on the 26th, be prepared to ship it back on the 27th for a broken hinge
RE: Which one? by Jhrono on 09-12-2008 at 02:49 AM
quote:
Originally posted by Nathan
jhrono hmm vaios havent had any exploding batterys or anything...
quote:
Originally posted by Jhrono
quote:And it's up to us to warn you, since you decided to made this embarassing decision public lol. Nice way to ruin some money.
Originally posted by Nathan
Still, like I said it's up to me what I buy
quote:
Originally posted by Nathan
But it looks like shit.
RIGHT, that must be why Alienware does not dominate the laptop market. DOH!
Lets put it this way :
Alienware = Overpriced with an alien skull, some lights and a wannabe design.
Vaio = Overpriced with no alien skull, good looking design.
Most brands = Reasonably priced, no skull, different lights and good looking design.
I hope you enjoy your laptop but I also would like to think that futurely you'd handle money more wisely. Especially, money that is not yours.
Hm... I posted 100 words, of which 9 were about Vaio laptops and 0 were about performance / quality. Congratulations on argueing about 0% of my post lol. Nice rhetoric there, cowboy.
RE: Which one? by Felu on 09-14-2008 at 01:09 PM
Nathan, you sure could spend as much as you want on whatever you want to buy. But its really stupid on your part paying so much money for those specs. Thats just wasting money as you could get something equivalent or better, both in terms of specs and performance/quality, than that for a much lower price. This way you're just spending more than required and thats literally wasting.
And what else but stupid should I call someone who pays almost double of the actual cost? That still counts even if you're Warren Buffett. Money needs to be spent carefully, even if you're filthy rich.
RE: Which one? by andrewdodd13 on 09-14-2008 at 03:04 PM
I have to point out, that buying any sort of high end Intel processor at this point is silly what with Nehalem coming out in October / November... =\
And rated battery life is never correct. With the power draw that that laptop will have, you'll be looking at a seriously chunky battery for 4 hours.
Me, I've just spent £400 on a whim for an Eee with a VX Revolution, WD 250GB Passport and 2GB RAM for it, so I can't really say anything about dodgy spending.
RE: Which one? by Nathan on 09-16-2008 at 06:14 PM
its ok alienware have said i can upgrade the processor and its not 4 hours rated, thats what aw users have repotred (it has 2 gfx cards an intel intergrated and the 8800gt . to save battery i switch to the intergrated one cool isnt it)
RE: RE: Which one? by andrewdodd13 on 09-16-2008 at 09:15 PM
quote:Several things:
Originally posted by Nathan
its ok alienware have said i can upgrade the processor and its not 4 hours rated, thats what aw users have repotred (it has 2 gfx cards an intel intergrated and the 8800gt . to save battery i switch to the intergrated one cool isnt it)
1) It does not have two graphics card - it has one. The Intel thing is a built in chipset and hence is not actually a graphis card
2) You have to reboot to switch modes, which is a pain in the arse (my HP has this "feature") - especially since the Intel graphics suck so hard.
3) According to reviews I read it gets 2-3 hours on low power mode, which makes much more sense. My Eee has a 30W power supply, and hence must draw a lot less power. The battery is a 6600mAhr, and it maxes out around 5hrs 30.
Edited footnote: Do not believe what a products forum members say, ever. They are on that products forum because they are fan bois. Head over to Mac forums to see what I'm on about
RE: Which one? by Nathan on 09-16-2008 at 10:50 PM
lol 3 to 4 hours with a smartbay battery as well and lol at the mac comment
RE: Which one? by Nathan on 09-19-2008 at 06:53 PM
On phase 9 (shippping) - jumped from phase 5 to 9 today !!!
Can't wait!