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Messenger volume? by Dr Nick on 02-28-2009 at 08:53 AM

Hey,
I believe messenger is far too loud.

I run other programs at 100% volume, and they are fine - so i cant turn down the speakers...

I usually just turn down WLM in the volume menu in Vista, but when i close messenger, or restart the computer, the volume returns to 100% and is far too loud again.

Is there a way in messenger to turn down the volume?

Is there a way I can get Vista to remember what setting I have the volume on for each program?

Thanks,
Nick


RE: Messenger volume? by Menthix on 02-28-2009 at 09:56 AM

Too loud? Are you using Messenger 2009, because the sounds in that version are much softer than the previous versions. All the complaints I heard were sounds being too soft.


RE: Messenger volume? by Dr Nick on 02-28-2009 at 10:13 AM

Yes, see my sig?

I have volume cranked right up to suit other programs better... So most programs are too loud (when i listen to music it has to be set at 10% and its still way too loud! ;) )

Thanks
Nick


RE: RE: Messenger volume? by djdannyp on 02-28-2009 at 10:18 AM

quote:
Originally posted by Dr Nick
Yes, see my sig?

I have volume cranked right up to suit other programs better... So most programs are too loud (when i listen to music it has to be set at 10% and its still way too loud! ;) )

Thanks
Nick

If most programs are too loud then maybe you should put the volume lower by default and then just increase the volume for individual programs when you're using those ones that need to be a bit louder
RE: Messenger volume? by Dr Nick on 02-28-2009 at 10:30 AM

quote:
Originally posted by djdannyp
quote:
Originally posted by Dr Nick
Yes, see my sig?

I have volume cranked right up to suit other programs better... So most programs are too loud (when i listen to music it has to be set at 10% and its still way too loud! ;) )

Thanks
Nick

If most programs are too loud then maybe you should put the volume lower by default and then just increase the volume for individual programs when you're using those ones that need to be a bit louder

I would, but there isn't any possible way to have the volume of certain programs about 100%, so the volume must be set for the softest ones, and set lower for the loud ones... AFAIK

Thanks
Nick
RE: RE: Messenger volume? by djdannyp on 02-28-2009 at 10:56 AM

quote:
Originally posted by Dr Nick
quote:
Originally posted by djdannyp
quote:
Originally posted by Dr Nick
Yes, see my sig?

I have volume cranked right up to suit other programs better... So most programs are too loud (when i listen to music it has to be set at 10% and its still way too loud! ;) )

Thanks
Nick

If most programs are too loud then maybe you should put the volume lower by default and then just increase the volume for individual programs when you're using those ones that need to be a bit louder

I would, but there isn't any possible way to have the volume of certain programs about 100%, so the volume must be set for the softest ones, and set lower for the loud ones... AFAIK

Thanks
Nick

what do you mean?

if the majority of programs are too loud, then turn your main volume control down (and it will stay down), then when you're using programs that need to be a bit louder, just turn them up individually.

You should set things so that they're right for the majority of things, so that you only need to adjust in the minority of cases.

Just turn your overall volume down and then most things will be normal volume......and when you're using one of the programs that needs to be a bit louder, go and manually turn that one up
RE: Messenger volume? by Mike on 02-28-2009 at 12:11 PM

You're using Vista (according to your sig), which means that you can just click the volume icon in the system tray, click mixer and lower WLM's volume.
Simple as that :P


RE: Messenger volume? by vaccination on 02-28-2009 at 12:23 PM

quote:
Originally posted by Mike
You're using Vista (according to your sig), which means that you can just click the volume icon in the system tray, click mixer and lower WLM's volume.
Simple as that :P

quote:
Originally posted by Dr Nick

I usually just turn down WLM in the volume menu in Vista, but when i close messenger, or restart the computer, the volume returns to 100% and is far too loud again.

Is there a way I can get Vista to remember what setting I have the volume on for each program?

Thanks,
Nick

;>
RE: Messenger volume? by Mike on 02-28-2009 at 01:03 PM

quote:
Originally posted by vaccination
quote:
Originally posted by Mike
You're using Vista (according to your sig), which means that you can just click the volume icon in the system tray, click mixer and lower WLM's volume.
Simple as that :P

quote:
Originally posted by Dr Nick

I usually just turn down WLM in the volume menu in Vista, but when i close messenger, or restart the computer, the volume returns to 100% and is far too loud again.

Is there a way I can get Vista to remember what setting I have the volume on for each program?

Thanks,
Nick

;>
... which means that I shouldn't read posts too quickly :P
Anyway, I've never had that problem, so I can't help you :(

One thing that you may want to try is to lower the volume of WLM's sound files...
RE: Messenger volume? by Vilkku on 02-28-2009 at 11:21 PM

Hmm, I'm fairly sure that individual volume settings save between restarts for me.


RE: Messenger volume? by Dr Nick on 02-28-2009 at 11:59 PM

quote:
Originally posted by djdannyp


what do you mean?

if the majority of programs are too loud, then turn your main volume control down (and it will stay down), then when you're using programs that need to be a bit louder, just turn them up individually.

You should set things so that they're right for the majority of things, so that you only need to adjust in the minority of cases.

Just turn your overall volume down and then most things will be normal volume......and when you're using one of the programs that needs to be a bit louder, go and manually turn that one up
I will do this if I find no other way. It just means that when I use things that aren't very loud, and have the volume turned right up, the other programs will be very loud.

quote:
Originally posted by Vilkku
Hmm, I'm fairly sure that individual volume settings save between restarts for me.
This is what I thought too, in fact I think it used to happen, but now it doesn't, which is why I am so bothered by this... I might try a forum dedicated to Win Vista to see if I can find out more.

quote:
Originally posted by Mike

One thing that you may want to try is to lower the volume of WLM's sound files...
Thought about this... Thanks, but I would much rather an easier solution.

Thanks
Nick
RE: RE: Messenger volume? by djdannyp on 03-01-2009 at 12:10 AM

quote:
Originally posted by Dr Nick
quote:
Originally posted by djdannyp


what do you mean?

if the majority of programs are too loud, then turn your main volume control down (and it will stay down), then when you're using programs that need to be a bit louder, just turn them up individually.

You should set things so that they're right for the majority of things, so that you only need to adjust in the minority of cases.

Just turn your overall volume down and then most things will be normal volume......and when you're using one of the programs that needs to be a bit louder, go and manually turn that one up
I will do this if I find no other way. It just means that when I use things that aren't very loud, and have the volume turned right up, the other programs will be very loud.


Just turn up those individual programs when you use them...if you're not using them all the time it won't be a problem, and even if you can't find a way to get it to save the settings, just generally have the computer set to a lower volume and then turn up only the individual programs that need it a bit louder, when you use them
RE: Messenger volume? by Dr Nick on 03-01-2009 at 12:14 AM

I run these programs at 100%...

Its impossible to turn them up louder than that ;)

Thanks
Nick


RE: RE: Messenger volume? by djdannyp on 03-01-2009 at 12:24 AM

quote:
Originally posted by Dr Nick
I run these programs at 100%...

Its impossible to turn them up louder than that ;)

Thanks
Nick

Yes, but I'm saying that you don't have to run everything else at 100%!!!!

When you're running these other programs, just turn THOSE ONES up to 100% and then everything else will still be at a normal level, and WLM won't be loud.

I don't know how many ways I can say it, this is what i've said in every post in this thread and still you don't understand :P
RE: Messenger volume? by ShawnZ on 03-01-2009 at 12:29 AM

quote:
Originally posted by djdannyp
quote:
Originally posted by Dr Nick
I run these programs at 100%...

Its impossible to turn them up louder than that ;)

Thanks
Nick

Yes, but I'm saying that you don't have to run everything else at 100%!!!!

When you're running these other programs, just turn THOSE ONES up to 100% and then everything else will still be at a normal level, and WLM won't be loud.

I don't know how many ways I can say it, this is what i've said in every post in this thread and still you don't understand :P

except you can't set a program's individual volume slider higher than the system volume...

also, OP, stop being a wuss. :(
RE: RE: Messenger volume? by djdannyp on 03-01-2009 at 12:32 AM

quote:
Originally posted by ShawnZ
quote:
Originally posted by djdannyp
quote:
Originally posted by Dr Nick
I run these programs at 100%...

Its impossible to turn them up louder than that ;)

Thanks
Nick

Yes, but I'm saying that you don't have to run everything else at 100%!!!!

When you're running these other programs, just turn THOSE ONES up to 100% and then everything else will still be at a normal level, and WLM won't be loud.

I don't know how many ways I can say it, this is what i've said in every post in this thread and still you don't understand :P

except you can't set a program's individual volume slider higher than the system volume...

also, OP, stop being a wuss. :(

Yes you can......if the system volume is set to 60% (as mine is), so that most programs function at a normal sound level, then when he uses one of these 'quieter' ones, he goes to the mixer, slides up that individual slider and then only that program is operating louder

but yes, i agree with your second statement :P
RE: Messenger volume? by ShawnZ on 03-01-2009 at 12:34 AM

quote:
Originally posted by djdannyp
Yes you can......if the system volume is set to 60% (as mine is), so that most programs function at a normal sound level, then when he uses one of these 'quieter' ones, he goes to the mixer, slides up that individual slider and then only that program is operating louder

no, when he slides up the individual slider it will just turn up the system volume with it, and leave the other programs at a reduced volume, which isn't what he wants because individual program volumes are not remembered after the app closes
RE: Messenger volume? by Dr Nick on 03-01-2009 at 12:35 AM

OK, Sorry, djdannyp. There seems to have been a misunderstanding.

This is exactly what I have been doing, but for some reason WLM  sets itself to 100% whenever I reboot, or close and re-open it.

Therefore when I start up the computer or whatever, it is once again very loud, and I must manually go through and set its volume down again.

I was wondering if there was a way to get WLM to remember its volume setting, so I wouldn't have to do this.

Other programs seem to work fine, eg Media player keeps itself at 10% no matter what I do, and my flight sim sits at 20% each time I open it.

WLM seems to be the only program that doesn't "remember" its volume setting, and I think this has only happened since I updated to 2009...

Any ideas?
Thanks
Nick


quote:
Originally posted by ShawnZ
quote:
Originally posted by djdannyp
Yes you can......if the system volume is set to 60% (as mine is), so that most programs function at a normal sound level, then when he uses one of these 'quieter' ones, he goes to the mixer, slides up that individual slider and then only that program is operating louder

no, when he slides up the individual slider it will just turn up the system volume with it, and leave the other programs at a reduced volume, which isn't what he wants because individual program volumes are not remembered after the app closes
Thanks, ShawnZ. This is another reason this wont work.
I only just saw your post after posting my last one sorry.

Nick