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Go back to previous version? by wendymr on 03-28-2009 at 03:20 AM

I made the mistake of upgrading to the 2009 version of Windows Live Messenger this evening. I HATE it. The colours are garish and hurt my eyes. Even changing the colour scheme on the main window doesn't help, as for some reason it's not changing the colours on my chat window. I DO NOT WANT pictures as background. I just want the ability to get rid of those horrible bright colours so that I won't get headaches using the thing.

PLEASE someone tell me how to uninstall this piece of crap and go back to the version I had an hour ago and was happy with. Thank you.


RE: Go back to previous version? by Joshua on 03-28-2009 at 03:44 AM

quote:
Originally posted by Joshua
http://download.softpedia.com/dl/725dc7c999abc77e135a2219c598c13d/49bd0090/100068149/software/internet/im/Install_WLMessenger.msi
There, if the download link does not work, just go here and click on the download server.
http://www.softpedia.com/progDownload/MSN-Messeng...ownload-68149.html
But first use ZapMessenger to remove all traces of the WLM2009
Then only download and install 8.5.
RE: Go back to previous version? by wendymr on 03-28-2009 at 04:04 AM

Thanks for trying to help, but the DL link you provided still gives me the same version - V14 2009, with the horrible garish colours :(


RE: Go back to previous version? by Joshua on 03-28-2009 at 04:48 AM

Actually it doesn't, it linked to the 8.5 version: Download here
http://download.microsoft.com/download/E/B/7/EB7A...wlsetup-custom.exe


RE: Go back to previous version? by CookieRevised on 03-28-2009 at 09:30 AM

quote:
Originally posted by Joshua
Actually it doesn't
actually it does...

quote:
Originally posted by wendymr
I made the mistake of upgrading to the 2009 version of Windows Live Messenger this evening. I HATE it. The colours are garish and hurt my eyes. Even changing the colour scheme on the main window doesn't help, as for some reason it's not changing the colours on my chat window. I DO NOT WANT pictures as background. I just want the ability to get rid of those horrible bright colours so that I won't get headaches using the thing.

PLEASE someone tell me how to uninstall this piece of crap and go back to the version I had an hour ago and was happy with. Thank you.
- you posted in the wrong forum.... this subforum is about Messenger Plus!, an addon for Windows Live Messenger.

- The colors can normally be changed to even as dark as black. And the blueish color isn't that different from the one used in 8.5 anyways.


Anyways,

1) Uninstall Windows Live Messenger 2009.

Do this by going to your Control Panel and Add/Remove Programs.
There select Windows Live Essentials and choose "Remove"
When the installer launches you can select Windows Live Messenger to be removed.

Make sure you read and follow the on-screen instructions properly.

In case you have previously installed a beta version of Windows Live Messenger 2009, you need to uninstall that too by selecting "Windows Live Messenger" from the 'Add/Remove Programs'- list.

There is realy NO need for 3rd party tools UNLESS you experience some problems.

2) Download Windows Live Messenger 8.5

Go to the official Microsoft Download Center.
You don't need to go to any dodgy 3rd party download sites.

The proper official link to download Windows Live Messenger 8.5 is:
http://www.microsoft.com/downloads/details.aspx?F...-b445-0487bd5e84ef

3) Run the installer you just downloaded.



RE: Go back to previous version? by wendymr on 03-28-2009 at 07:28 PM

Actually, CookieRevised, I did everything you said, and when I reinstalled using the link for Messenger 8 it still gave me the horrible 2009 version. Typical of Microsoft - this software creates registry entries that don't delete and don't allow users to go back to previous versions.

And I'm sorry, but the garish blue, and the green icon outline, is VERY different from the old version. These colours are an appalling choice by whoever did the design. Dyslexics, epileptics, those who have recently had Lasik surgery and people with other vision problems are very ill-served by this design choice.

I finally did discover how to change the colours in *all* windows, but this interface is still a retrograde step from the previous version. It's ugly and unappealing.

Finally, I apologise for posting in the wrong forum, but in my defence it is not easy to find the correct forum. I spent some time searching before finding this place.


RE: Go back to previous version? by djdannyp on 03-28-2009 at 08:20 PM

The forums are very clearly labelled, it's not hard to find the right place.

Furthermore, the colours in WLM 2009 are barely any different from 8.5....it's just the human propensity for disliking change which is seen with every new Messenger release.  The interface is not "ugly and unappealing", it's hardly changed from 8.5....and you'll soon get used to the minor changes.

Microsoft does nothing to prevent you downgrading, proving the older version still enables you to connect to the Messenger network.

If you don't trust Microsoft to give you 8.5 then it can be downloaded from here:

http://www.filehippo.com/download_msn_messenger/3410/

However i would fully recommend persisting with WLM 2009, as Microsoft is already recommending upgrades.  Also, not only can the colours be changed very simply if you desire a darker interfact, there are several Messenger Plus! Live skins out there which offer altered themes.

Sidenote: Joshua, PLEASE stop telling people to use ZapMessenger for uninstalling WLM 2009.  a) ZapMessenger should only be used if the normal uninstaller fails and b) we should be encouraging people to use 2009 as they will soon have no option and 99% of them have no other reason than just disliking change......it was only a few years ago that everyone was complainging about being forced to upgrade to 8.5.....and just look at the uproar that Facebook's interface changes has caused.....when it's nothing more than people disliking change


RE: Go back to previous version? by Joshua on 03-28-2009 at 11:41 PM

quote:
Originally posted by djdannyp
Sidenote: Joshua, PLEASE stop telling people to use ZapMessenger for uninstalling WLM 2009.  a) ZapMessenger should only be used if the normal uninstaller fails and b) we should be encouraging people to use 2009 as they will soon have no option and 99% of them have no other reason than just disliking change......it was only a few years ago that everyone was complainging about being forced to upgrade to 8.5

Uh, whatever.
quote:
Originally posted by djdannyp
and just look at the uproar that Facebook's interface changes has caused.....when it's nothing more than people disliking change


Facebook said they would not change anything much to the uproar of the people.
RE: Go back to previous version? by djdannyp on 03-28-2009 at 11:49 PM

quote:
Originally posted by Joshua
quote:
Originally posted by djdannyp
Sidenote: Joshua, PLEASE stop telling people to use ZapMessenger for uninstalling WLM 2009.  a) ZapMessenger should only be used if the normal uninstaller fails and b) we should be encouraging people to use 2009 as they will soon have no option and 99% of them have no other reason than just disliking change......it was only a few years ago that everyone was complainging about being forced to upgrade to 8.5

Uh, whatever.
quote:
Originally posted by djdannyp
and just look at the uproar that Facebook's interface changes has caused.....when it's nothing more than people disliking change


Facebook said they would not change anything much to the uproar of the people.

Facebook have made two interface changes, the first much bigger than the second...and both have been met with hundreds of groups and statuses of people complaining.

Also, your reaction to my initial point was distinctly uncalled for and really rather rude.

ZapMessenger is not a tool that should be used routinely.

The first port of call for uninstalling Windows Live Messenger is the uninstaller that comes with it, via Add/Remove Programs and therefore this is the advise that you should be giving people.

You're doing a good job of helping people for the most part and I was just advising you how to better help people.  Please heed some constructive advice rather than responding so negatively
RE: Go back to previous version? by Joshua on 03-28-2009 at 11:55 PM

quote:
Originally posted by djdannyp
quote:
Originally posted by Joshua
quote:
Originally posted by djdannyp
Sidenote: Joshua, PLEASE stop telling people to use ZapMessenger for uninstalling WLM 2009.  a) ZapMessenger should only be used if the normal uninstaller fails and b) we should be encouraging people to use 2009 as they will soon have no option and 99% of them have no other reason than just disliking change......it was only a few years ago that everyone was complainging about being forced to upgrade to 8.5

Uh, whatever.
quote:
Originally posted by djdannyp
and just look at the uproar that Facebook's interface changes has caused.....when it's nothing more than people disliking change


Facebook said they would not change anything much to the uproar of the people.

Facebook have made two interface changes, the first much bigger than the second...and both have been met with hundreds of groups and statuses of people complaining.

Also, your reaction to my initial point was distinctly uncalled for and really rather rude.

ZapMessenger is not a tool that should be used routinely.

The first port of call for uninstalling Windows Live Messenger is the uninstaller that comes with it, via Add/Remove Programs and therefore this is the advise that you should be giving people.

You're doing a good job of helping people for the most part and I was just advising you how to better help people.  Please heed some constructive advise rather than responding so negatively

OK, ok I'm rude, I am only 12. I am not so good at speaking out in public.
Sorry. :'(
RE: RE: Go back to previous version? by CookieRevised on 03-29-2009 at 01:01 AM

quote:
Originally posted by wendymr
Actually, CookieRevised, I did everything you said, and when I reinstalled using the link for Messenger 8 it still gave me the horrible 2009 version. Typical of Microsoft - this software creates registry entries that don't delete and don't allow users to go back to previous versions.
Actually you didn't do what I suggested. You did what Joshua suggested.

So instead, follow the instructions I gave and not the instructions given by Joshua (sorry Joshua). My instructions and the link I gave are different than what Joshua said. So reread my post again and follow those instructions.

The link provided by Joshua is not the proper installer, like I already explained in my previous post also together with the proper link for WLM8.5. Following the link in my post will get you Windows Live Messenger 8.5 guaranteed....

Also MS does allow you to roll back. All you need to do is to uninstall all the current Windows Live tools and follow the instructions I gave.

;)

EDIT:
quote:
Originally posted by Joshua
:P not everybody is correct.
that's very true however. And it would be very boring if it was :p

RE: Go back to previous version? by Joshua on 03-29-2009 at 06:53 AM

quote:
Originally posted by CookieRevised
So instead, follow the instructions I gave and not the instructions given by Joshua (sorry Joshua). My instructions and the link I gave are different than what Joshua said. So reread my post again and follow those instructions.


:P not everybody is correct.