change dp's to right side of contact window on wlm 9 final build 14 also alot more

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change dp's to right side of contact window on wlm 9 final build 14 also alot more by landermash on 04-20-2009 at 02:41 PM

:MsgPlusLive-481.exe
http://mirror3.msgpluslive.net/MsgPlusLive-481.exe

: download DUIDebug.reg from
http://shoutbox.menthix.net/showthread.php?tid=86053 thanks go to TheSteve msghelp

ownload Avalon-Concept-2009-4.0.4.plsk from
http://www.msgpluslive.net/skins/view/126-...n-Concept-2009/ thanks go to Guéna

or download them all in this pack http://www.megaupload.com/?d=8WCIWE8N
also has alot more options other than change what side the dp is on heres a screenshot

http://www.msgpluslive.net/skins/view/126-...n-Concept-2009/

if u need help post on here and i will help you

RE: change dp's to right side of contact window on wlm 9 final build 14 also alot more by Spunky on 04-20-2009 at 04:32 PM

Why would we need help? A lot of MESSENGER PLUS! SKINS that were MADE BY PEOPLE ON THIS FORUM have OPTIONS for everything you could want with no dodgy downloads from an unknown source on megaupload.com.

IIRC you don't need DUIDebug AT ALL to do anything anymore as it was removed when 9.0/14 went final.

RE: change dp's to right side of contact window on wlm 9 final build 14 also alot more by landermash on 04-20-2009 at 04:49 PM

i put this on here because all the skins i could find were customized to how the people that made them wanted them and the way i posted keeps wlm 9 original but gives u options to change things like dp's on right of the convo window and u dont have to download from megaupload as i posted links to other websites

RE: change dp's to right side of contact window on wlm 9 final build 14 also alot more by blessedguy on 04-20-2009 at 04:56 PM

quote:
Originally posted by landermash
i put this on here because all the skins i could find were customized to how the people that made them wanted them and the way i posted keeps wlm 9 original but gives u options to change things like dp's on right of the convo window and u dont have to download from megaupload as i posted links to other websites

The way you posted is no help.
No why? Simple. Why to use a debug mode if it doesn't exist anymore in the final version? Also, why to download it if there are plenty of skins that do it without changing Messenger (Avalon, no changes basically, My Live, few minor changes, Plus!Patch, no changes)?

Also, anyone is obligated to use someone's skins. It's their chose. There are skins wich change Messenger, there are skins that only move things around Messenger and others make it look a complete new thing, the user is the only one who will decide. And your downloads are not needed.

RE: change dp's to right side of contact window on wlm 9 final build 14 also alot more by landermash on 04-20-2009 at 04:59 PM

and how is DUIDebug removed from 9.0 build 14 i have tried and test it on the lastest wlm 9.0 build 14 heres a screenhttp://img16.imageshack.us/img16/6677/wlm90.jpg

RE: change dp's to right side of contact window on wlm 9 final build 14 also alot more by blessedguy on 04-20-2009 at 05:01 PM

Do it without debug and see the thing we're talking about.

RE: change dp's to right side of contact window on wlm 9 final build 14 also alot more by landermash on 04-20-2009 at 05:07 PM

if i fresh install wlm 9.0 with a fresh install of msgplus latest version i cannot change the dp position it does not have that feature so i download skins they are either crap or they move the dp's but the skin is horrible the only way i can get it to work is use the reg entry

Windows Registry Editor Version 5.00

[HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\Microsoft\DUIDebug]
"Binary"=dword:00000000
then i can change the dp position otherwise its a no go so how would u do it then change the dp without a horrible skin ??? that skin i posted up does not modify the look in any way unless u tell it to

RE: RE: change dp's to right side of contact window on wlm 9 final build 14 also alot by blessedguy on 04-20-2009 at 05:13 PM

quote:
Originally posted by landermash
if i fresh install wlm 9.0 with a fresh install of msgplus latest version i cannot change the dp position it does not have that feature so i download skins they are either crap or they move the dp's but the skin is horrible the only way i can get it to work is use the reg entry

Windows Registry Editor Version 5.00

[HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\Microsoft\DUIDebug]
"Binary"=dword:00000000
then i can change the dp position otherwise its a no go so how would u do it then change the dp without a horrible skin ??? that skin i posted up does not modify the look in any way unless u tell it to

RE: change dp's to right side of contact window on wlm 9 final build 14 also alot more by landermash on 04-20-2009 at 05:24 PM

hows that gonna help me ?

RE: change dp's to right side of contact window on wlm 9 final build 14 also alot more by blessedguy on 04-20-2009 at 05:25 PM

See the registry editor? NO [HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\Microsoft\DUIDebug] present, and skins fully enabled.

RE: change dp's to right side of contact window on wlm 9 final build 14 also alot more by landermash on 04-20-2009 at 05:31 PM

so u deleted the value ? not everyone no's how to edit the registry

RE: change dp's to right side of contact window on wlm 9 final build 14 also alot mor by blessedguy on 04-20-2009 at 05:35 PM

quote:
Originally posted by landermash
so u deleted the value ? not everyone no's how to edit the registry

.........the key has never existed at all!
It WAS POSSIBLE to enable the ddebug mode when Messenger was BETA.
There is no need to download any .reg file. Plus! does all the work for you, and ALL skins work perfectly.

Update: Read the whole thread, wich is not that big:

quote:
Originally posted by Matti
@ DarkGoth: If you are using the Windows Live Messenger 9 RC (a.k.a. version 14.0 - not the Beta), then you can't do anything with the downloaded file.

It's a registry file which adds the DUIDebug value in order to make Messenger Beta load the old layout files. This registry value however no longer has any effect on the Windows Live Messenger 9 RC version. There's no way to make the new version load those old layout files, simply because that registry value was used for debugging and because those old layout files are most likely already removed from the RC.

Since we can no longer use the old style of changing the layouts of Messenger through XML (UIFILE), we have to wait for the new layout format to be reverse-engineered, documented and implemented in Plus! until we can make skins for this new Messenger version. This is also the reason why Plus! is currently only partially compatible with this version: it loads and hooks into Messenger, but it can't modify the windows to add buttons such as the Plus! button and text formatting tools.

For the time being, either downgrade to version 8.5 or version 9.0 Beta in order to use Plus!, or simply stay with the new version and wait patiently...

RE: change dp's to right side of contact window on wlm 9 final build 14 also alot more by landermash on 04-20-2009 at 05:48 PM

it works perfect on mine in that post u put up it says its not valid anymore well it is quite ov because im using it right now

RE: change dp's to right side of contact window on wlm 9 final build 14 also alot more by blessedguy on 04-20-2009 at 05:54 PM

quote:
Originally posted by landermash
it works perfect on mine in that post u put up it says its not valid anymore well it is quite ov because im using it right now

Ok. I won't do anything. If you still want to think it won't work without that .reg file, fine. But don't make other people think it is needed because it is not.

RE: change dp's to right side of contact window on wlm 9 final build 14 also alot more by Spunky on 04-20-2009 at 05:55 PM

What version of WLM and what is the download site?

RE: change dp's to right side of contact window on wlm 9 final build 14 also alot more by landermash on 04-20-2009 at 06:47 PM

what do u mean what version mine is wlm 9 the latest one direct from microsoft and im not making anyone do anything i was trying to help some people dont no how to do it if this is what u get for helping thats what i hate about forums someone with abit of rep and a few posts behind them has to no everything

RE: change dp's to right side of contact window on wlm 9 final build 14 also alot mor by Spunky on 04-20-2009 at 07:03 PM

quote:
Originally posted by landermash
what do u you mean what version ~~mine is~~ is my ~~wlm~~ WLM? 9.0; the latest one direct from mMicrosoft and im I'm not making anyone do anything i I was trying to help some people ~~dont no~~ learn how to do it. if If this is what u you get for helping thats what i I hate about forums, someone with a bit of rep and a few posts behind them has to no know everything

Don't think I'm asking questions because I have rep and some posts. I'd do it if I was a nub as well.

As far as I'm concerned the megaupload link was waving a red flag as you are a new member. Then, you proceed to insist that you need a RegHack to use the skins you've "provided", which you don't (as all forum regulars know).

Before trying to help other people, ask if help is already provided and, if it is, think of alternate ways you can help. Simple

RE: change dp's to right side of contact window on wlm 9 final build 14 also alot more by landermash on 04-20-2009 at 07:06 PM

sorry for all the cofusion all i meant really was it worked for me

RE: change dp's to right side of contact window on wlm 9 final build 14 also alot more by blessedguy on 04-20-2009 at 07:17 PM

quote:
Originally posted by landermash
i was trying to help some people dont no how to do it if this is what u get for helping thats what i hate about forums someone with abit of rep and a few posts behind them has to no everything

I know you were trying to help, but you can't post something wich is incorrect and let it go.
But here, take a look:

quote:
Originally posted by landermash
and how is DUIDebug removed from 9.0 build 14 i have tried and test it on the lastest wlm 9.0 build 14 heres a screenhttp://img16.imageshack.us/img16/6677/wlm90.jpg

This information is completely wrong.

quote:
Originally posted by landermash
if i fresh install wlm 9.0 with a fresh install of msgplus latest version i cannot change the dp position it does not have that feature so i download skins they are either crap or they move the dp's but the skin is horrible the only way i can get it to work is use the reg entry

Windows Registry Editor Version 5.00

[HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\Microsoft\DUIDebug]
"Binary"=dword:00000000
then i can change the dp position otherwise its a no go so how would u do it then change the dp without a horrible skin ??? that skin i posted up does not modify the look in any way unless u tell it to

This registry entry just won't do anything. It's like adding

XML code:
<--! a comment -->

in a .xml file.
So, what would be the difference between with and without that entry? None. Then skins work the same way in both cases. wich makes your post again completely wrong.

quote:
Originally posted by landermash
it works perfect on mine in that post u put up it says its not valid anymore well it is quite ov because im using it right now

Same as above.

quote:
Originally posted by landermash
if i fresh install wlm 9.0 with a fresh install of msgplus latest version i cannot change the dp position it does not have that feature so i download skins they are either crap or they move the dp's but the skin is horrible the only way i can get it to work is use the reg entry
[...]
then i can change the dp position otherwise its a no go so how would u do it then change the dp without a horrible skin ??? that skin i posted up does not modify the look in any way unless u tell it to

First, about the italics part: Guèna's skin is a normal .plsk file. It sure works without your "workaround".
Second, about the underlined parts: Speaking (or typing, in this case) is easy, but I want you see how good can you make it by yourself. Don't like the skins? Suggest what you think would make them better. Still hate them? No problems. But you don't need to go and call people who made those skin's "people who only want to make skins for themselves".

quote:
Originally posted by landermash
i put this on here because all the skins i could find were customized to how the people that made them wanted them

It's true. Partially, but true. Why would someone do something they dislike? By the way, you pay them? I'm sure you don't. They all do it for free, and they really do what they want to, still in the way they think people will like the most. Calling them "selfish people" hurts, didn't you know? If you dislike those that much, why don't you make your own skins? Then come here to criticise other people.

And as Spunky said while I was typing all this:

quote:
Originally posted by Spunky
Don't think I'm asking questions because I have rep and some posts. I'd do it if I was a nub as well.

As far as I'm concerned the megaupload link was waving a red flag as you are a new member. Then, you proceed to insist that you need a RegHack to use the skins you've "provided", which you don't (as all forum regulars know).

Before trying to help other people, ask if help is already provided and, if it is, think of alternate ways you can help. Simple

And, to complete,

quote:
Originally posted by landermash
sorry for all the cofusion all i meant really was it worked for me

It's not only because it worked for you it has/will work for everyone. Also, take a look at this example:
"Turning off the lights before turning your computer on is the only way to make it work. REALLY! I've tested it, and it really turns on if the lights are off."
See? That's what you've typed, but with other objects. Read "Discours de la méthode pour bien conduire sa raison, et chercher la verité dans les sciences", by René Descartes, you'll see why your workaround isn't valid. (If you're not going to read it, as I think, it will be considered invalid because you haven't done step one: receiving the information, verifying if it's true and it's procedences, to then examin it's racionality and justificative. Then only accept what's undoubtably true. In your case, you haven't even checked if the information was true.)

RE: change dp's to right side of contact window on wlm 9 final build 14 also alot more by landermash on 04-20-2009 at 07:28 PM

well im sorry for a usless post can someone remove it