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x-men origin wolverine skin plus 2009 by vista24 on 05-04-2009 at 05:00 PM

[Image: xmenoriginwolverine.png]
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http://rapidshare.com/files/229151632/x-men_origin_wolverine.plsk.html
Bonjour je suis vista24,je debute dans le skinnage,et j'aimerai votre opinion sur celui-ci,merci.


Hello! I am vista24, I just started in skinnage, and I'd like your opinion on it, thanks.

skin plus x-men wolverine wlm 2009
version 1.0
Desolé j'ai pas encore reussi a integrer des options,donc je compte bien y effectué une mise a jour avec une version 2.0...

Sorry I have not yet managed to include options, so I plan to make an update, version 2.0, wich will include them.

Merci d'avance.

Thanks in advance.

RE: x-men origin wolverine skin plus 2009 by robert_dll on 05-04-2009 at 05:53 PM

I don´t understand french =/ did you notice this is an english forum? :P

RE: x-men origin wolverine skin plus 2009 by NanoChromatic on 05-04-2009 at 05:59 PM

Looks nice, Good Job :).

RE: x-men origin wolverine skin plus 2009 by vista24 on 05-04-2009 at 06:07 PM

very thank NanoChromatic ...:)

RE: x-men origin wolverine skin plus 2009 by blessedguy on 05-04-2009 at 06:08 PM

quote:
Originally posted by vista24
Bonjour je me présente vista24,je debute dans le skinnage,je voudrais votre avis sur celui-ci...
merci

skin plus x-men wolverine wlm 2009
version 1.0
Desolé j'ai pas encore reussi a integrer des options,donc je compte bien y effectué une mise a jour avec une version 2.0...

Merci d'avance...
Hello! I am vista24, I just started in skinnage, and I'd like your opinion on it, thanks.


Plus skin X-Men Wolverine WLM 2009, version 1.0.
   
Sorry I have not yet managed to include options, so I plan to make an update, version 2.0, wich will include them.

Thanks in advance.




By the way, has anyone seen who's connected in the screenshot? Doesn't Dada24 have an account here? Also, I recognize those buttons.........
RE: x-men origin wolverine skin plus 2009 by vista24 on 05-04-2009 at 06:16 PM

oui j'arrivé pas a faire le srenshoot c'est  pour ca

RE: x-men origin wolverine skin plus 2009 by vista24 on 05-04-2009 at 06:35 PM

It is indeed me who made him(it) you can go verifié on toutwlm

RE: x-men origin wolverine skin plus 2009 by blessedguy on 05-04-2009 at 06:38 PM

Why I suspect he isn't really the creator of "his" skin and there is copied content from Ryddick's Windows 7 skin:

note: His skin (Ryddick's skin)

Images 4302.png (4302.png), 59004.png (20510.png), 59005.png (20511.png), 59006.png (20512.png), 59007.png (59002.png), 59008.png (59003.png), 59001.png (1908.png), transparente.png (1786.png) are exactly equal, even in byte size AND creation, last acess and modification dates, and have been inserted in the exact same way and order in both skins, even the comment tags are in the same places.
Both have the same mistake right in the begging of the skin info (only <SkinInfo> tag, nothing about schema files as commented in the docs).

XML code:
 <!-- chat window -->                         <Picture Id="59001">
                            <File>Images/bg-chat.jpg</File><Metadata><UMLeft>1</UMLeft><UMTop>1</UMTop><UMRight>1</UMRight><UMBottom>1</UMBottom></Metadata>
                        </Picture>
<!-- alert -->
                        <Picture Id="59002">
                            <File>Images/toast.png</File><Metadata><Colorize>false</Colorize><UMLeft>3</UMLeft><UMTop>3</UMTop><UMRight>3</UMRight><UMBottom>3</UMBottom></Metadata>
                        </Picture>
                        <Picture Id="59003">
                            <File>Images/blur.png</File>
                        </Picture>
XML code:
 <!-- Conversazione - 920 -->                         <Picture Id="20874">
                            <File>Img/20874.png</File>
                        </Picture>
<!-- Bottone notifica conversazione - 920-->
                        <Picture Id="1133">
                            <File>Img/4006_1133.png</File><Metadata><Colorize>false</Colorize></Metadata>
                        </Picture>
                        <Picture Id="1134">
                            <File>Img/4006_1134.png</File><Metadata><Colorize>false</Colorize></Metadata>
                        </Picture>
(An example of exact same structure and comment tags)
XML code:
<Information>
        <Name>x-men origin wolverine</Name>
        <Description>skin plus x-men origin wolverine wlm 2009 par vista24
    </Description>
    <AboutUrl>http://http://www.live-messenger-pc.fr/</AboutUrl>
    <Version>1.0</Version>
        <Compatibility>
        <MsgVersion Major="14" Minor="0"/>
        </Compatibility>
        <Screenshot>
            <File>icon.png</File>         </Screenshot>
    </Information>
XML code:
<Information>
        <Name>Windows 7 Skin</Name>
        <Description>Skin created by Ryddyck</Description>
  <Version>0.5</Version>
        <Screenshot>
            <File>icon.png</File>         </Screenshot>
    </Information>
RE: x-men origin wolverine skin plus 2009 by vista24 on 05-04-2009 at 06:43 PM

la preuve ici http://tout-wlm.fr/index.php?file=Download&op=description&dl_id=1009

RE: x-men origin wolverine skin plus 2009 by blessedguy on 05-04-2009 at 06:47 PM

quote:
Originally posted by vista24
la preuve ici http://tout-wlm.fr/index.php?file=Download&op=description&dl_id=1009
That page doesn't proove anything.
It just says you're the one who sent it, and we've had loads of cases in wich the sender wasn't actually the creator.

(Other thing that makes me really think you're not the actual creator is that you've already merged Contact List's backgrounds, removed conversation window, log in window and contact list scenes, wich really aren't that easy, even worse for a begginer.)
RE: x-men origin wolverine skin plus 2009 by Menthix on 05-04-2009 at 06:49 PM

I've got 4 skins submitted (this is one of them) by 4 different people, all of them are based on the same. Same filenames, same XML, same styles, just different images. One of them changed a few more images.

I had somebody who submitted a skin based on Dada24's work before. He claimed it was with his permission, but Dada never replied to me when I asked him.

Whether or not Dada24 allows others to use his work as a base, there seem to be a lot of similar skins submitted lately where only the images are different. The site http://tout-wlm.fr/ seems to be owned by Dada24 and hosts a lot of them. Should we add them all on msgpluslive.net when the original author is fine with it? Or should we try to push more creativity?

EDIT:
[Image: similar-skins-thumb.png]
(click for full size)

RE: x-men origin wolverine skin plus 2009 by vista24 on 05-04-2009 at 06:52 PM

It is nevertheless the verité I sees not the interet to lie, I just wish an opinion(notice) on my skin it is everything...

RE: x-men origin wolverine skin plus 2009 by blessedguy on 05-04-2009 at 06:53 PM

quote:
Originally posted by Menthix
Should we add them all on msgpluslive.net when the original author is fine with it? Or should we try to push more creativity?
I still think that if a skin is completely based upon another skin (and in this case there are even files not from Dada24, but Ryddick), it should not be accepted.
Not a matter of creativity, but a matter of respect to the original creator.

quote:
Originally posted by vista24
It is nevertheless the verité I sees not the interet to lie, I just wish an opinion(notice) on my skin it is everything...
In fact, you lied:
quote:
Originally posted by vista24
It is indeed me who made him(it) you can go verifié on toutwlm
Doesn't matter if you've made the pictures, wich are actually copies. If you've based your work in another's work, it still isn't yours, but from the original creator. And I bet Ryddick didn't allow the use of his resources. (will contact him as soon as he logs in)

@Menthix's similar skins screenshot:
Wow! There are files with haven't even been modified! =O

Update, again: Looking at that website, you may find LOADS of copies, people just seem to lack the notion of respect about our creations.
RE: x-men origin wolverine skin plus 2009 by toto69230 on 05-04-2009 at 07:32 PM

waaaou, bravo !!!!
tu pourrais me faire un skin : Skate 2
mdr !!! t trop fort !

RE: x-men origin wolverine skin plus 2009 by matty on 05-04-2009 at 08:00 PM

quote:
Originally posted by toto69230
waaaou, bravo !!!!
tu pourrais me faire un skin : Skate 2
mdr !!! t trop fort !
This is an english forum. All posts of another language need to be accompanied by an english translation.
RE: x-men origin wolverine skin plus 2009 by Menthix on 05-07-2009 at 02:57 PM

quote:
Originally posted by blessedguy
I still think that if a skin is completely based upon another skin (and in this case there are even files not from Dada24, but Ryddick), it should not be accepted.
Not a matter of creativity, but a matter of respect to the original creator.
You're right. And it was indeed ripped from Ryddick, not Dada24. Since Ryddick didn't give any permission that makes it a lot clearer to not accept any of these rips.

I've dug in the DownDB and deleted 3 more of these rips, see Menthix's reply to Windows 7 Skin. A lot of them may have used tuttomsn.it's tutorial but the "tutorial" is almost a complete rip of Ryddick's Windows 7 skin.
Ryddick posted his Windows 7 skin in february, the tuttomsn.it article and the rips didn't appear until april.