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Disk management - Swapping hard disks by Chris4 on 05-28-2010 at 03:30 AM

At the moment I have the stuff I don't use much on a fast Samsung SpinPoint hard disk (Disk 0) and my Windows 7 on an old, slower hard disk (Disk 1). I'd like to swap this around.

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Once complete, it should be like this:

Disk 0: Win7 | Downloads
Disk 1: XP | Ubuntu

Downloads can stay on Disk 0, as it'll be faster on the same disk as Windows 7.

So my question is, what's the best way to do this?

The partition types are probably messed up, as I presume Windows 7 should now be the primary..?


RE: Disk management - Swapping hard disks by MeEtc on 05-28-2010 at 08:39 PM

Yes this is possible to do, but you will need a lot of free space and a lot of free time. If you have a 3rd disk, this will be much easier. You will need to make an image of BOTH disks before starting the swap, then restore them to the appropriate disks. If you don't have a 3rd disk, do the swap in this order:

Image Disk0, and put it in the free space of Disk1
Clone Disk 1 onto Disk 0
Restore image to Disk 1

However, looking at the size of Disk0, you probably won't have enough free space in which to do this

As for the Primary, no it is not messed up. A primary partition is just a 'basic' partition type. The others labeled Logical are just created differently in their creation


RE: Disk management - Swapping hard disks by Chris4 on 05-29-2010 at 01:59 AM

Hmm. I don't have a 3rd disk unfortunately.

How's this? I got rid of Ubuntu for now and shrunk the Downloads partitions to allow more space.

[Image: udV0Y.png]

What would you recommend for imaging?


RE: Disk management - Swapping hard disks by Hank on 05-29-2010 at 02:40 AM

Chris

just a suggestion, if you wanna use Ubuntu, why not just download Windows VirtualBox an install it in there


RE: Disk management - Swapping hard disks by MeEtc on 05-29-2010 at 02:52 AM

You will still need t create an image of each of the partitions, and put the images on the Win7 partition. So if the total used space on WinXP and Downloads exceeds the free space on Win7, you'll need to delete more or find another spare disk.

As for actually creating the images, there was a thread not too long ago by Nagamasa that contains a few suggestions.


RE: Disk management - Swapping hard disks by CookieRevised on 05-29-2010 at 11:44 AM

quote:
Originally posted by Chris4
Hmm. I don't have a 3rd disk unfortunately.

How's this? I got rid of Ubuntu for now and shrunk the Downloads partitions to allow more space.

[Image: udV0Y.png]

What would you recommend for imaging?
In theory you now can clone the Win7 partition (which is 115GB) to the space of that unallocated space on physical Disk0 (which is 126GB).

After that you can remove Win7 from Disk1 and put XP there in similar fashion.

After that remove XP from Disk0 and re-allocated the freedup space to the other partitions (or make a new partition for just documents and data or something).

However: Make sure you keep the originally assigned drive letters!!!! You can not simply move a OS from a logical drive X: to another logical drive Y: because that would otherwise break a gazzilion things in the OS. If you want other drive letters, the only safe option is to re-install the OS.
RE: Disk management - Swapping hard disks by Chris4 on 05-29-2010 at 12:23 PM

Thanks for replies, but i've messed up. I used Partition Manager to resize the partitions to shrink them (to reduce the free space from like 50% to 10%) and now my pc won't boot, it just goes to a black screen with flashing cursor. It's straight after the first BIOS screen so can't get into Safe Mode or anything. Any ideas?

(Posted from my mobile)

Edit: Just run Windows 7 dvd Startup Repair, 1 problem detected, after restart still the same.

Edit2: It won't run a CHKDSK for Win7 G: (disk 1) "cannot open volume for direct access".

Edit3: the Win7 dvd is now recognising G: and the startup repair now says no problems detected, but still the same. Tried using DISKPART in Command Prompt to set G: as active (suggested by google result) but its unable to because its a Logical partition. Tried resetting BIOS to default too. I'll try 'extending' the partition using DISKPART in a sec...

Edit4: Extended it, but still the same. <-- Bad choice, says JK. *-)

When i set the hard disk at top boot priority, it tries to boot it but says "Reboot and select a proper boot device ... or  boot media in selected boot device and press a key..." I'll google it.

Edit5: Google results just say about the boot priority list, but i've tried just setting the hard disk as top then disable the others or enable them all or even reset to default...

Tried using gparted to "check and repair" and "flag as boot" as suggested here, no luck.


RE: Disk management - Swapping hard disks by blessedguy on 05-29-2010 at 09:58 PM

quote:
Originally posted by Chris4
Reboot and select a proper boot device
When my HD broke, that was the message I received.
So I'd tell you are in a pretty bad situation, except if you have a recent backup.
RE: Disk management - Swapping hard disks by Chris4 on 05-29-2010 at 10:27 PM

I can still access all the files with Command Prompt, so I'm pretty sure it's ok. DISKPART also reports that all partitions are "healthy", there's just a problem with it booting which I can't work out.

I've tried all bootrec commands..

/fixmbr - Didn't fix.
/fixboot - "Element not found."
/scanos - Didn't fix.
/rebuildbcd - "Element not found."


RE: Disk management - Swapping hard disks by blessedguy on 05-29-2010 at 11:03 PM

Why don't you try copying the files from "Windows XP" to that unallocated space in a Live CD and reinstalling XP [or 7] there?


RE: Disk management - Swapping hard disks by Chris4 on 05-30-2010 at 05:31 AM

quote:
Originally posted by blessedguy
Why don't you try copying the files from "Windows XP" to that unallocated space in a Live CD and reinstalling XP [or 7] there?
No need, really. It was just a booting issue.

With much help from TReKiE, we managed to fix it.

Had to convert the partition from logical to physical using GParted, then Windows would boot.

After that I had problems with drive letters, as Cookie predicted. It'd given it a new letter, so the Windows profile was broken. Had to mess around with the registry after Windows wouldn't let me change the letter.

Somehow got there in the end. (Y)

Don't think I'll be going near partitions for a while. ;)

quote:
Originally posted by ICQ
just a suggestion, if you wanna use Ubuntu, why not just download Windows VirtualBox an install it in there
Yeah I know, but that one I had was just installed in Windows, which then creates a partition for it I take it. Usually use it for recovery, so having it in VirtualBox would be no use.

RE: Disk management - Swapping hard disks by CookieRevised on 05-31-2010 at 12:57 AM

quote:
Originally posted by Chris4
After that I had problems with drive letters, as Cookie predicted. It'd given it a new letter, so the Windows profile was broken. Had to mess around with the registry after Windows wouldn't let me change the letter.

Somehow got there in the end. (Y)
PS: Changing the OS drive letter is far from enough though (in case you only did that).

Make also sure you check every directory and drive setting and option of every program (sounds like a tedious task... and it unfortunatly is :p). This also includes shortcut links on your hard disk, etc. Even associated icon settings and such can be broken because of changed drive letters.
RE: Disk management - Swapping hard disks by Chris4 on 05-31-2010 at 06:18 AM

Thanks for the concern, but I'm pretty sure everything is working. Here's why...

It has always been set as G:\, but when I started using the Windows 7 recovery options it decided to change the letter to D:\ (even though everything still pointed towards G:\). When I finally got Windows to boot, I tried to login to my user profile, but instead it logged me into a temporary profile because it, along with all programs, was pointing towards G:\ which "didn't exist".

[Image: 45304d1262494787-temporary-profile-temporaryprofile.jpg]

So once I managed to change it from D:\ back to G:\ (not sure how exactly, as you can't do it through Linux and Windows was giving me an error, but got there somehow) I was able to login to my user profile and all worked fine. :)


RE: Disk management - Swapping hard disks by CookieRevised on 05-31-2010 at 11:33 AM

Ah... sounds (y) then...

I thought you changed it to C:\ or something....