Heeey, I noticed that I cant open MIC with my contacts and I have the following error:

which is I think its because of my ISP or because my contacts holds Messenger 8.5

Messenger is not available right now. Please try again later. (0x80ee001c)

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I figured it out because my other contact is using 8.5...

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Originally posted by kabso 5
and I'm thinking thats because my contact doesnt have a webcam in his computer

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Yeah, I tested it right now, and it worked with Version 2009

but  I cant press the Video button with 8.5 contacts..!

" Contacts who still holds 8.5 "

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they are holding it because of the font, it shows a different kind of font when writing in arabic

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Originally posted by kabso 5
they are holding it because of the font, it shows a different kind of font when writing in arabic

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Really ? how to use MSN 8.5 fonts on 9.0?

I mean the nick name fonts on the main menu btw not the convo fonts xd

In theory you could use Messenger Plus! Live to skin the contact list window to change the font type if I am not mistaken. I could be I am not a skinner.

Yeah, I thought that, If there is a way to change only the nick names fonts please inform me

soo, I cant open webcam or call contacts who uses 8.5 after the update??

I was able to use webcam with them when I was 2009 the old build

but they forced me to update it

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Originally posted by kabso 5
If there is a way to change only the nick names fonts please inform me

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Alright

8.5 Font



2009 Font



Can you tell me how?

just curious

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Originally posted by kabso 5
Can you tell me how?

just curious

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Its 3AM now I cant ask anyone lol I'll ask tomorrow

any hints to edit the main menu font file? XD



I think its Arial any way to change it?

I wanna try new fonts

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Originally posted by kabso 5
I think its Arial any way to change it?

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lol wtf 14mb?

Before I download it, any hints to tell me how to edit the fonts?

or a way to export the orginal messenger theme and edit it?

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Originally posted by kabso 5
lol wtf 14mb?

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Originally posted by wikipedia

In digital typography, the TrueType font Arial Unicode MS is an extended version of the font Arial. Compared to Arial, it includes higher line height, omits kerning pairs and adds enough glyphs to cover a large subset of Unicode 2.1—thus supporting most Microsoft code pages, but also requiring much more storage space (22 megabytes).

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XML code:

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<SkinInfo xmlns="urn:msgplus:skins"
xmlns:xsi="http://www.w3.org/2001/XMLSchema-instance"
xsi:schemaLocation="urn:msgplus:skins PlusSkins.xsd" Version="4">
<Information>
<Name>Font Changer</Name> <!-- ~/ equals to Program Files/Messenger Plus! Live/Skins/Font Changer/ -->
<Description>Changes font to Arial Unicode MS.</Description>
<Version>1.0</Version>
<Screenshot><File>ss.jpg</File></Screenshot>
<Compatibility>
<MsgVersion Major="14" Minor="0"/>
</Compatibility>
<TraceFile>true</TraceFile>
</Information>
<Fonts>
<Font><File>\%windir%\Fonts\ARIALUNI.TTF</File></Font>  <!--As matty said, Plus! will look at \%windir%\Fonts\ for the requested font, remember Windows "understands" %windir%\ as "[drive Windows is installed]\Windows\" -->
</Fonts>
<MessengerSkin>
<ResGroup>
<Restrictions>
<MsgVersions>
<Version Major="14" Minor="0"/>
</MsgVersions>
</Restrictions>
<Resources>
<Replace>
<Strings>
<String Id="22176">Live Messenger</String> <!-- I always put this here only to make the name shorter, so you've got "Live Messenger" in the taskbar and windows instead of the full name, which would be cropped anyway. You can put whatever text you like here. -->
<String Id="44620">Live Messenger</String>
<String Id="61143">Live Messenger</String>
</Strings>
</Replace>
</Resources>
</ResGroup>
<ResGroup>
<Restrictions>
<MsgVersions>
<Version Major="14" Minor="0"/> <!-- Changes WLM2009 fonts -->
</MsgVersions>
</Restrictions>
<Resources>
<Replace>
<Strings>
<String Id="3018">Arial Unicode MS</String> <!-- Didn't find where it's used, maybe nowhere? It's mentioned in msgres, by the way -->
<String Id="20951">Arial Unicode MS</String> <!-- Didn't find where it's used, maybe nowhere? It's mentioned in msgres, by the way -->
<String Id="20952">Arial Unicode MS</String> <!-- Didn't find where it's used, maybe nowhere? It's mentioned in msgres, by the way -->
<String Id="20953">Arial Unicode MS</String> <!-- Almost everything -->
<String Id="20954">Arial Unicode MS</String> <!-- Welcome and Name in dashboard and Conversation Scene area -->
</Strings>
</Replace>         
</Resources>
</ResGroup>
</MessengerSkin>
</SkinInfo>

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Correct me if I'm wrong, but if you're running XP or higher you already have the font Arial Unicode installed.

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Originally posted by CookieRevised
Correct me if I'm wrong, but if you're running XP or higher you already have the font Arial Unicode installed.

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XML code:

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<Fonts>
    <Font>
        <File>\%windir%\Fonts\ARIALUNI.TTF</File>    </Font>
</Fonts>
...

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Originally posted by matty
Possibly? In scripting prefixing the path with a \ makes it look at the absolute path not the relative path so it could be a possibility.

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I created a new SkinInfo.XML

The fonts in the contacts list changed perfectly without any mistakes

but some nicknames are squares why is that?

I have to change the font line?

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\%windir%\Fonts\ARIALUNI.TTF

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&#7497;&#7518;&#7497;&#7611;

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Originally posted by kabso 5
I think they wont show up in the forums but I'll try

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Oh I see,

I removed the skin and the chars are fine now but the fonts is not

Is there a way to solve this?

I can display any char using any font

or is there a font that contains lots of chars?

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Originally posted by kabso 5
or is there a font that contains lots of chars?

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Whats the default  font for WLM 2009 Tahoma?

Is there a way to find out how without guessing xd?

Thanks for your help all of you

I appreciate it

There is no font which contains all the possible characters. That simply doesn't exist. What unicode enabled programs do instead (or should do) is loading the appropiate font as needed. It also has to do with how you've setup Windows (eg: if extra special fonts are installed or not for the more 'exotic' languages).

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Originally posted by CookieRevised
'exotic'

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lol I dont have the exotic font

The weird part is that these chars are visible at 8.5

so i think there is a font that contains most of the chars

I wish I could know the font of 8.5

I think this might help



Whats the font used in this window, because it can read almost all of the chars lol XD

btw I would like to ask how to know the ID of something, for example

I tried 20061 to change the background picture in 9.0 but it didnt work

or maybe because I pasted the picture in the wrong place?

I pasted the picture with the XML

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                 <Replace>


                    <Graphics><Pictures>
                        <Picture Id="20061">
                            <File>nub.jpg</File>
                        </Picture>
                    </Pictures></Graphics>
                </Replace>

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Originally posted by kabso 5
btw I would like to ask how to know the ID of something, for example

I tried 20061 to change the background picture in 9.0 but it didnt work

or maybe because I pasted the picture in the wrong place?

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I replaced 20061 with 625

Nothing has changed @_@

I'm using the cloud image just like in the tutorial

I want the log in screen to be with an Image I choose

Does it have to be 300X300 ?

omg I got a headache, I'v never used XML before

I used C++ a little

but this is not working

This codes are under " Your First Skin "

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<SkinInfo>
    <Information>
        <Name>Test Skin</Name>
    </Information>

    <MessengerSkin>
        <ResGroup>
            <Restrictions>
                <MsgVersions>
                    <Version Major="8" Minor="5"/>
                </MsgVersions>
            </Restrictions>

            <Resources>
                <Replace>
                    <Strings>
                        <String Id="61288">Hello World!</String>
                    </Strings>

                    <Graphics><Pictures>
                        <Picture Id="20061">
                            <File>clouds.jpg</File>
                        </Picture>
                    </Pictures></Graphics>
                </Replace>
            </Resources>

        </ResGroup>
    </MessengerSkin>
</SkinInfo>

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I made this once, it will finally be useful

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<SkinInfo xmlns="urn:msgplus:skins"
xmlns:xsi="http://www.w3.org/2001/XMLSchema-instance"
xsi:schemaLocation="urn:msgplus:skins PlusSkins.xsd"> <!-- This will tell Messenger Plus! to start reading the file, and useful information for editing software-->
<Information> <!-- This will tell Messenger Plus! that the next lines contain information about your skin -->
<Name>Test Skin</Name> <!-- This will tell Messenger Plus! what name to show on the skin selection page, import screen and folder name on new installations -->
<Description>The classic Hello World example.</Description> <!-- This will tell Messenger Plus! what to show on the skin import screen, please keep it short. -->
<AboutUrl>http://blessedguy.com</AboutUrl> <!-- This will tell Messenger Plus! what is your skin's [or related anything] page. -->
<Version>1.0</Version> <!-- This will tell Messenger Plus! what your skin version is, for organization purposes. -->
<Screenshot><File>screenshot.jpg</File></Screenshot> <!-- This will tell Messenger Plus! to use this as a "badge" for your skin, will be shown on skin import and skin selection page. Please use an 86x86 image file. -->
<Compatibility><MsgVersion Major="14" Minor="0"/></Compatibility> <!-- This will tell Messenger Plus! what Messenger versions will work with your skin. See this in "Help > About", Major is the first number, and minor is the first number after the major.-->
<UpdateId>example</UpdateId> <!-- This will tell the Skins Database if Messenger Plus! should or should not notify the existence of updates for your skin. It has to be unique for each skin and have between 6 and 8 characters. -->
<BuildNumber>01</BuildNumber> <!-- This, with UpdateId, will tell Messenger Plus! if your skin is updated. DO NOT use any special caracter like "." or ",", only natural numbers in an ascending order: the newer the skin, the bigger this number. -->
<TraceFile>true</TraceFile> <!-- This will tell Messenger Plus! if it should or should not create a SkinTrace.txt file in case of errors. PLEASE DO NOT DISABLE. -->
</Information> <!-- This will tell Messenger Plus! there's no more information on the skin here -->
<MessengerSkin> <!-- This will tell Messenger Plus! what to change in Messenger -->
<ResGroup> <!-- This will tell Messenger Plus! a "Resource Group" starts here. -->
<Restrictions> <!-- This will tell Messenger Plus! what Messenger versions are compatible with this specific Resource Group. Useful when your skin is compatible with multiple versions of Messenger, or something requires different files for different builds of the same Major/Minor version. -->
<MsgVersions>
<Version Major="14" Minor="0"/> <!-- Same as <MsgVersion> in <Compatibility> -->
</MsgVersions>
<MsgLanguages>  <!-- This will tell Messenger Plus! what languages are able to load this specific Resource Group. PLEASE DO NOT use if you're not replacing any strings, PLEASE DO use if you are replacing strings, all other languages won't be able to load this <ResGroup> -->
<Language><IsoCode="en-us"/></Language>
<Language><IsoCode="en-gb"/></Language> <!-- Please refer to http://msdn.microsoft.com/en-us/library/ms533052(VS.85).aspx for IsoCode. -->
</MsgLanguages>
</Restrictions> <!-- This will tell Messenger Plus! the version restriction information for this Resource group ends here. -->
<Resources> <!-- This will tell Messenger Plus! about the files you'll use: how and where. -->
<Replace> <!-- This will tell Messenger Plus! the next lines contain information on what files should go in the place of existing Resource IDs. -->
<Strings> <!-- This will tell Messenger Plus! what strings [text] files should be changed. -->
<String Id="22176">Live Messenger</String> <!-- You can look for an ID inside ~\Strings & Colors\msglang_strings.txt file in your extracted resources folder. We'll deal with the problem of languages on <MsgLnaguages> -->
</Strings> <!-- This will tell Messenger Plus! no more strings will be edited in this <ResGroup> -->
<Windows> <!-- This will tell Messenger Plus! about each changed window structure. Not needed on most basic skins. Jump to </Windows> if this is the case. -->
<Styles> <!-- This will tell Messenger Plus! what style files to replace. -->
<Style Id="900"><File>Windows/Styles/msgres_style_900.txt</File></Style> <!-- This will tell Messenger Plus! where to find the file for a given Style ID. -->
</Styles> <!-- You can find the ID for each window in http://shoutbox.menthix.net/showthread.php?tid=88344&pid=945812#pid945812 or by checking the \Consolidated Windows folder inside your extracted resources folder. -->
<Definitions> <!-- This will tell Messenger Plus! wht definition files to replace. -->
<Definition Id="900"><File>Windows/bDefinitions/msgres_def_900.txt</File></Definition> <!-- This will tell Messenger Plus! where to find the file for a given Definition Id. -->
</Definitions>
</Windows> <!-- This will tell Messenger Plus! no more Style or Definition files will be changed. -->
<Graphics> <!-- This will tell Messenger Plus! about replaced pictures, icons and animations [.gif files] included. -->
<Pictures> <!-- This will tell Messenger Plus! about replaced pictures, icons not included. -->
<Picture Id="4300"><File>Graphics/Pictures/4300.png</File><Metadata><Colorize>false</Colorize></Metadata></Picture> <!-- This will tell Messenger Plus! where to find the picture to replace a given Picture Id. For instance, Picture Id="4300" refers to the background of logon window.
Use the format folder/file.extension.
Messenger Plus! undertands path/filename.extension as [Messenger Plus! instalation directory]/Skins/[Skin Folder]/path/file.extension.
We'll call [Messenger Plus! instalation directory]/Skins/[Skin Folder] "root directory" from now on.
Metadata information includes the <colorize> [true or false] tag and <UMTop> <UMBottom> <UMLeft> <UMRight> [number of pixels to a given direction] tags. -->
</Pictures> <!-- This will tell Messenger Plus! no more Pictures will be replaced. -->
</Graphics> <!-- This will tell Messenger Plus! no more graphics will be replaced. -->
</Replace> <!-- This will tell Messenger Plus! no more files will be replaced. -->
</Resources> <!-- This will tell Messenger Plus! no more resources will be changed. -->
</ResGroup> <!-- This will tell Messenger Plus! a <ResGroup> ends here. -->
</MessengerSkin> <!-- This will tell Messenger Plus! your skin ends here. -->
</SkinInfo> <!-- This will tell Messenger Plus! your SkinInfo.xml file ends here. -->

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Originally posted by kabso 5
I pasted a picture named clouds its extension is jpg for some reason nothing have changed in my messenger x_X

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wow thanks, great job !

Its helpfull for every skin starter, I copy pasted your codes in the XML

for some reason its not showing up in the Plus skin list @@

anyway I knew all of that but I couldnt figure out the ID

"4300"

but I took the numuber ID from your code and edited mine and I got this

http://www.iimmgg.com/image/453d9481aa8c79feb689c00895c696f5

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Originally posted by kabso 5
but I took the numuber ID from your code and edited mine and I got this

http://www.iimmgg.com/image/453d9481aa8c79feb689c00895c696f5

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Hmmm, Could you please tell me how I dont understand the text inside
msgres_def_900.txt

You are the best blessedguy

I think you should make tutorials to make skin via youtube for messenger 2009 + 2010 XD

Thanks for everything

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Originally posted by kabso 5
Hmmm, Could you please tell me how I dont understand the text inside
msgres_def_900.txt

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Its really confusing

You mean Inside Windows\Definitions\ right?

If I can only get to see a simple skin folder as an example, I'll understand then XD

its harder than C++ lol

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Originally posted by kabso 5
You mean Inside Windows\Definitions\ right?

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I never find a simple skin lol

I always download complicated skins =S

I just want to change the main window, contact list, Messenger Alerts and replace it with a picture in the bottom corner XD

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Originally posted by kabso 5
I just want to change the main window, contact list, Messenger Alerts and replace it with a picture in the bottom corner XD

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I've few questions

Will my costmize skin would be published or uploaded or anything?

Would I be able to find the skin and send it to other people?

Do you know the id of the popup alert ? =o

Thanks in advance

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Originally posted by kabso 5
Heeey, I noticed that I cant open MIC with my contacts and I have the following error:

which is I think its because of my ISP or because my contacts holds Messenger 8.5

Messenger is not available right now. Please try again later. (0x80ee001c)

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Tell your friend to use Messenger 2010 or 2011