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1100 character limit not working by amaranthine on 02-17-2011 at 05:28 AM

This is a recent problem that has come up, and has never been a problem prior to a few days ago.  Plus!'s higher character limit isn't working.  Whenever I or the person I am talking to (who also has plus) type more than the original 400 limit from Windows Live, it ends up giving us the error message:

"The following message could not be delivered to all recipients".  As I said, this has never been a problem previous to a few days ago.  Both me and my friend have uninstalled Plus and reinstalled it.  We have uninstalled Windows Live Messenger and re-installed it.  We have even gone back to install the older versions (that still work) of Windows Live.

But, it doesn't fix the problem.  Does anyone have a solution to this?  Or having the same problem?


RE: 1100 character limit not working by Charactarlimitfail on 02-17-2011 at 05:39 AM

I'm glad I could find a post on this! I looked everywhere on google and I thought I was the only one with this problem.

It's the exact same thing for me. I've installed an uninstalled both my windows live messenger and my Messenger Plus. But it won't fix the problem!

And what's stranger is sometimes it works and other times it doesn't. For me and my friend too. Like either its not working for me and working for her or its working for me and not working for her.

Can someone please help us?


RE: 1100 character limit not working by CookieRevised on 02-17-2011 at 05:48 AM

Make sure both you and your contact are online, and not "Appearing offline" because the limit is only for online messages, not offline messages.

The limit for offline messages is still 400 characters.
If you attempt to send more you'll get the "can not deliver this message" error.


RE: 1100 character limit not working by amaranthine on 02-17-2011 at 06:32 AM

Yes, I know for sure that both of us were online.  We have been using this feature for quite a while now.  And, as I said, this just happened recently within the past few days.  It is a constant error that is preventing me and my friend from going over the 400 word count.

It won't even send posted data like Plus would other times when you go over 1100 count.  Instead, it just gives the error message and will not send it until you cut it down to 400.

UPDATE:
I have noticed lately that the error seems to come up sometimes and other times it doesn't.  I can be on MSN for hours and during one point it won't send the messages over 400 and at another it will.  Also, my friend says that it is always reversed.  Whenever I cannot send lengthy messages, she can.  And when I can send lengthy messages, she can't.


RE: 1100 character limit not working by Charactarlimitfail on 02-20-2011 at 07:22 AM

Can someone please help figure this out.


RE: 1100 character limit not working by Arcticwolfx on 02-22-2011 at 04:55 AM

We will need more information to pinpoint problem..
It sounds like a bug that more people might experience with intensive use of the character limit extension.

Please share your versions of:
-Operating System
-Windows Live Messenger
-Messenger Plus!

Any other information you might consider related (such as other Windows Live Messenger add-ons from other sources) may help as well.

Did you know Messenger Plus!5 also provides a feature to automatically convert long messages into a temporary .txt file and send it?

Will check back on this thread when I get home from work in 8 hours.


RE: 1100 character limit not working by CookieRevised on 02-22-2011 at 09:45 AM

amaranthine & co,

I'm not entirely convinced this is a Messenger Plus! bug.

Although there are some indications for it to be a Plus! bug, it sounds more like a bug within Windows Live Messenger itself if you take in account that Windows Live Messenger is known to have sometimes hickups when it comes down to your online status and especially since "it only started since a couple of days". It might report that you or your contacts are online while in fact they are not or that the connection is temporary lost for a split second. And this has influence on this character limit because, as I said before, you can't send more than 400 characters as an 'offline message'.

Tracking where this 'bug' comes from is extremely hard if not impossible since it seems to be 'random'.
All I can suggest is not typing such long messages in the mean time.


RE: 1100 character limit not working by Arcticwolfx on 02-22-2011 at 03:20 PM

quote:
Originally posted by Arcticwolfx


Did you know Messenger Plus!5 also provides a feature to automatically convert long messages into a .txt file and send it?

Here's a picture of the option:
[Image: plus5largetext.jpg]
RE: 1100 character limit not working by amaranthine on 02-23-2011 at 02:52 PM

Just for helpful specifics, I checked my chat log and tracked the problem to begin occurring on January 31st, 2011.  It first happened to me, while my friend's character limit was not effected.  However, a few days later, hers started to mess up as well.

It does make sense (I have also thought about this possibility) that it could, in fact, be Windows Live Messenger and it not registering one of us as online.  Since I do know that the exceeded character limit does not work for offline messages.

I have noticed that at the bottom of the chat window, above the text input box where it usually says "Last message received..." that it tends to stick with the message "So-and-so is now online" and will remain with that message even as they are writing.  Instead of going back to the "Last message received" or changing to "So-and-so is writing".

More and more, I am seeing that the exceeded character limit will only work for one of us.  Mainly it will work for her, and not me.  Where, she can send me larger messages and I cannot send her any back.  Though, it switches from time to time where I can send her large messages and she cannot send any back.

On an added note, when I exceed the 1000 character limit, it does now send it as a .txt file (only if I exceed the exceeded character limit.  If I type something above 400 but not quite over 1000 then it gives me the error).

Okay, now for version information.

I currently have Plus!5 (5.00.702).
Windows Live Messenger Version 2009 (Build 14.0.8117.416)
Microsoft Windows XP Media Center Edition SP3


RE: 1100 character limit not working by Charactarlimitfail on 02-23-2011 at 03:11 PM

I have Plus! 5 (5.00.702)
I've got Windows Live Version 2009 (Build 14.0.8117.416
My system is Windows Vista Home Premium.

If there is any other information we you need just ask. I also checked my settings about the improve pasting operations for large text and its check marked for me.


RE: 1100 character limit not working by Arcticwolfx on 02-23-2011 at 05:50 PM

Thanks for sharing the information, this may help with finding a fix.

Don't have this issue myself, using Windows Live Messenger 2011 though. Would like to know if more users with Windows Live Messenger 2009 have this problem, or if other users with Windows Live Messenger 2011 do.

quote:
Originally posted by amaranthine

On an added note, when I exceed the 1000 character limit, it does now send it as a .txt file (only if I exceed the exceeded character limit.  If I type something above 400 but not quite over 1000 then it gives me the error).

For now you may want to disable the extended character limit feature, forcing messages containing more than 400 characters to be sent as temporary .txt file as well, instead of giving an error.


From my personal experience with these bugs and similar ones, I've realized that both MSN Messenger and Windows Live Messenger (and/or their respective connection methods) have been giving me odd bugs at random times. Some of these bugs include getting error messages returned when trying to send any text messages, contacts appearing off line, file transfers not being shown and many more similar bugs. Therefore I believe it could always be the Windows Live Messenging service acting up.
RE: 1100 character limit not working by Onyx Panthyr on 03-30-2011 at 03:28 PM

I too am having this problem and it's highly annoying.  :(  I will probably upgrade to Plus 5 at a later time.  Tried it on mom's computer too, she was able to send at least 1000 chars to me, but I was unable to send it back to her.  We were both Online status.  I wish this would work in Appear Offline mode tho because that's how I'm usually online.  :(


Mine:
Plus 4.90.0.392
Windows Live Messenger Version 2009 (Build 14.0.8117.416)
Microsoft Windows XP Pro SP3

Mom's:
Plus 5 (latest build)
Windows Live Messenger Version 2009 (Build 14.0.8117.416)
Microsoft Windows XP Pro SP3


RE: 1100 character limit not working by Arcticwolfx on 03-30-2011 at 03:52 PM

quote:
Originally posted by Onyx Panthyr

Mine:
Plus 4.90.0.392
Windows Live Messenger Version 2009 (Build 14.0.8117.416)
Microsoft Windows XP Pro SP3

Mom's:
Plus 5 (latest build)
Windows Live Messenger Version 2009 (Build 14.0.8117.416)
Microsoft Windows XP Pro SP3

Hi OxyPanthyr,

What is the reason that you haven't updated Messenger Plus! to the latest version?
RE: 1100 character limit not working by CookieRevised on 03-30-2011 at 05:24 PM

Small sidenote:

quote:
Originally posted by amaranthine
I have noticed that at the bottom of the chat window, above the text input box where it usually says "Last message received..." that it tends to stick with the message "So-and-so is now online" and will remain with that message even as they are writing.  Instead of going back to the "Last message received" or changing to "So-and-so is writing".
This is another known Windows Live Messenger bug though.
RE: 1100 character limit not working by TSAdmin on 04-01-2011 at 06:44 PM

Can confirm this is happening to me, too.

Plus: Plus 4.90.0.392
WLM: Windows Live Messenger Version 2009 (Build 14.0.8117.416)
OS: Windows 7 Ultimate


quote:
Originally posted by CookieRevised
Small sidenote:
quote:
Originally posted by amaranthine
I have noticed that at the bottom of the chat window, above the text input box where it usually says "Last message received..." that it tends to stick with the message "So-and-so is now online" and will remain with that message even as they are writing.  Instead of going back to the "Last message received" or changing to "So-and-so is writing".
This is another known Windows Live Messenger bug though.

Is there a known fix? Before I'm asked, just as OxyPanthyr was asked by Arcticwolfx, this "Last message received" bug is one of few, yet annoying enough, reasons I have not upgraded to Plus! 5.
RE: 1100 character limit not working by CookieRevised on 04-01-2011 at 08:14 PM

quote:
Originally posted by TSAdmin
quote:
Originally posted by CookieRevised
Small sidenote:
quote:
Originally posted by amaranthine
I have noticed that at the bottom of the chat window, above the text input box where it usually says "Last message received..." that it tends to stick with the message "So-and-so is now online" and will remain with that message even as they are writing.  Instead of going back to the "Last message received" or changing to "So-and-so is writing".
This is another known Windows Live Messenger bug though.
Is there a known fix? Before I'm asked, just as OxyPanthyr was asked by Arcticwolfx, this "Last message received" bug is one of few, yet annoying enough, reasons I have not upgraded to Plus! 5.
No, there is no known fix. Note: this is not a bug in Messenger Plus! but a bug in Windows Live Messenger though. So it shouldn't be (one) reason (more) not to update to Plus! 5.
RE: RE: 1100 character limit not working by TSAdmin on 04-02-2011 at 03:37 AM

quote:
Originally posted by CookieRevised
quote:
Originally posted by TSAdmin
quote:
Originally posted by CookieRevised
Small sidenote:
quote:
Originally posted by amaranthine
I have noticed that at the bottom of the chat window, above the text input box where it usually says "Last message received..." that it tends to stick with the message "So-and-so is now online" and will remain with that message even as they are writing.  Instead of going back to the "Last message received" or changing to "So-and-so is writing".
This is another known Windows Live Messenger bug though.
Is there a known fix? Before I'm asked, just as OxyPanthyr was asked by Arcticwolfx, this "Last message received" bug is one of few, yet annoying enough, reasons I have not upgraded to Plus! 5.
No, there is no known fix. Note: this is not a bug in Messenger Plus! but a bug in Windows Live Messenger though. So it shouldn't be (one) reason (more) not to update to Plus! 5.

There must be some level of fault on Messenger Plus! 5's side as installing it allows for reproducing the bug while uninstalling Plus! entirely, or reinstalling Plus! 4.9 or lower, does not reproduce it.
RE: 1100 character limit not working by CookieRevised on 04-02-2011 at 06:28 PM

quote:
Originally posted by TSAdmin
quote:
Originally posted by CookieRevised
quote:
Originally posted by TSAdmin
quote:
Originally posted by CookieRevised
Small sidenote:
quote:
Originally posted by amaranthine
I have noticed that at the bottom of the chat window, above the text input box where it usually says "Last message received..." that it tends to stick with the message "So-and-so is now online" and will remain with that message even as they are writing.  Instead of going back to the "Last message received" or changing to "So-and-so is writing".
This is another known Windows Live Messenger bug though.
Is there a known fix? Before I'm asked, just as OxyPanthyr was asked by Arcticwolfx, this "Last message received" bug is one of few, yet annoying enough, reasons I have not upgraded to Plus! 5.
No, there is no known fix. Note: this is not a bug in Messenger Plus! but a bug in Windows Live Messenger though. So it shouldn't be (one) reason (more) not to update to Plus! 5.

There must be some level of fault on Messenger Plus! 5's side as installing it allows for reproducing the bug while uninstalling Plus! entirely, or reinstalling Plus! 4.9 or lower, does not reproduce it.
Hmmm... apparently so.
Although I could have sworn there was a post somewhere stating the thing you see happening (or not happening for that matter), when Plus! is installed, is due to a Messenger issue.
Oh well... let's hope this (not realy important issue imho) would be fixed sometime...
RE: 1100 character limit not working by character101 on 05-16-2011 at 03:47 PM

For some reason my stupid Characterlimitfail couldn't post in this forum. So I made a new account so I could post.

I've updated to plus 5 and it gave me the same problem. I came up with a solution though.

I made a new account. And now the character limit works perfectly fine, how weird is that. Not sure if it will work for everyone else but give it a shot.

I don't like the solution mind you because msn names are unique but hey, since no on else has figured this bug out... I guess that's the best we can do for now.

Hope this helps someone if now. Sorry ^^;;