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I have a problem with options MsgPlus by teco on 04-10-2012 at 12:50 AM

Hello guys.
I'm using the latest version Windows Live Messenger 15.4.3555.308, and Messenger Plus latest version 5.11.0.760.
But it happens that after using the A-Patch to remove the advertising WLM MsgPlus checked that disappeared from the main window options.

I leave the pictures of before and after.

Before using the A-Patch:

[Image: b6d2b9d13vyq88uta30g.jpg]

After using A-Patch:

[Image: v7kudex3l9ur2wmym3q.jpg]

My OS is Windows 7 64-bit.

Someone help me please?
Thanks :)


RE: I have a problem with options MsgPlus by SmasherDK on 04-19-2012 at 08:31 AM

I have the same problem...

Except I can't see msg plus ANYWHERE on my messenger, can't enter options or anything...  happened after I updated to newest messenger : 15.4.3555.308


RE: I have a problem with options MsgPlus by teco on 04-19-2012 at 01:22 PM

This same problem happened only after installing the new version of messenger.


RE: I have a problem with options MsgPlus by teco on 04-28-2012 at 11:36 AM

They will not release any version to fix this problem?


RE: I have a problem with options MsgPlus by Spunky on 04-28-2012 at 03:39 PM

A-Patch changes the resources that WLM uses to build it's interface to remove the adverts. There is nothing Messenger Plus! can do to prevent it being removed from the window like this, the same as WLM can not prevent its adverts from being removed.

Adverts can be removed anyway via skins (Skins just replace these internal resources with custom files). Take a look in the Skin Database. I'm not sure which ones do it, but it will not appear as an option in the Skin Options window. There are usually a couple of files in the skin package somewhere. Can't really say any more than that.


RE: I have a problem with options MsgPlus by teco on 04-28-2012 at 03:52 PM

You say the problem is the A-Patch, and team-Patch says the problem is yours. All I know is that this did not happen before and that there were incompatibilities with Messenger Plus and A-Patch and now begin to exist.


RE: I have a problem with options MsgPlus by Spunky on 04-28-2012 at 04:00 PM

Try putting Messenger Plus! in to safe mode by following the steps in this video:

Using Messenger Plus! Live (4.9) with Windows Live Messenger 2011 (Ignore the name, the steps are the same)

It is possible something A-Patch is doing is preventing Messenger Plus! from "hooking" the Windows Live Messenger process correctly.


RE: I have a problem with options MsgPlus by teco on 04-28-2012 at 04:16 PM

The problem that happens is that after making changes to the A-Patch options Messenger Plus! disappear from the main window. The rest of the Messenger Plus! works correctly, the options appear in conversation windows without any problems. My only problem is that I showed you the pictures.


RE: I have a problem with options MsgPlus by Spunky on 04-28-2012 at 05:02 PM

If it does just come down to UI elements such as the buttons on the Contact List, then it is highly likely that it can't find the right place to put them (i.e. the resources have been changed). This really does still point to A-Patch. Got assignments due tonight so I'll take a look a bit later on if I get chance


RE: I have a problem with options MsgPlus by Scary674 on 05-20-2012 at 11:09 AM

same problem here.. any new reason?


RE: I have a problem with options MsgPlus by teco on 07-26-2012 at 01:41 PM

Congratulations. Problem solved with the new version of Messenger Plus! v5.50.0.761

Thank you! :D


RE: I have a problem with options MsgPlus by CookieRevised on 07-26-2012 at 10:48 PM

quote:
Originally posted by teco
Congratulations. Problem solved with the new version of Messenger Plus! v5.50.0.761

Thank you! :D
good to hear.

But to come back to whom is/was to blame.... in reality it still was/is a problem with using A-patch though, not a problem with Messenger Plus!. Messenger Plus! worked as it should. What the new version of Plus! probably did was making some changes in how it does what it does because another program "messes up" the original code from WLM used by Messenger Plus!. It's fixing something which another program messes up.
Sort of what Microsoft is doing for decades: fixing things and making things compatible with programs which actually do not behave like they should... all to make sure the user doesn't notice anything wrong.
However, due to the nature of A-Patch, they too can't do much about it; as it is in fact a user decision to mess up WLM's original code or not.

Also note that such problems will always exist though! As long as there are programs messing up the code of WLM (and users using such programs) there will always be some problem manifesting itself in programs which expect code to be original and untouched.

It's like complaining to a company 'A' that their aftermarket machine part doesn't fit on that machine from company 'B' because you used your hamer on that machine. Of course company 'A' could make it so that their part will still fit after bashing it, but who is to blame?? Not the company making that hamer.... but also not company 'A' though! However, what that company from that hamer should/could state is that by using their tool you will void any warrenty on the product using it on and will probably brake parts in such a way that nothing will fit anymore.

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PS: teco, I think your screenshots in your first post are reversed, no? The one "before A-Patch" should actually be the one "after using A-patch" and vice-versa.
RE: I have a problem with options MsgPlus by teco on 07-27-2012 at 05:11 AM

quote:
Originally posted by CookieRevised

PS: teco, I think your screenshots in your first post are reversed, no? The one "before A-Patch" should actually be the one "after using A-patch" and vice-versa.


Fixed screenshots! Thank you :)