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Originally posted by WDZ

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Originally posted by PT_KiD
I already thought about this and i think if US people dont do nothing they are at risk

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At risk?

What is the risk? Less sex and violence/profanity on TV? Fine with me... there's more than enough of it already. If I want to see sex, I have my internet connection, and if I want to see violence/profanity, I can rent a movie.

I doubt TV will be any less entertaining or interesting if the FCC enforces rules more strongly...

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Yeah risk.
See if u can understand.. Now its tv radio etc tomorrow..everything
The point isnt if u like to watch sex or not or if u can watch sex on the internet, anywhere else or if its important or not...
the point is that u are being prohibitted to watch something because the governement doesnt want you to, you are not free to decide, thats not freedom.

But if US people think they arent at risk seeing their freedom affected fine..everyone's happy

Hey tommorrowsnobody u putted on a post a quote that wasnt mine please change it its wdz's quote

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u see swearwords enhance the emotion

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There are plenty of shows on TV with great drama and emotion that don't contain "fuck"/"shit"/etc.

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id rather see a violent boob filled swearing program than a fruity "can i take your coat ma'am" programme

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Me too, but stopping the FCC has nothing to do with that. The FCC isn't going to make every show on TV "fruity." That's ridiculous.

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Originally posted by PT_KiD
See if u can understand.. Now its tv radio etc tomorrow..everything

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Pfft... you're being too paranoid.

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Originally posted by PT_KiD
the point is that u are being prohibitted to watch something because the governement doesnt want you to

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No. Television stations are being prohibited from broadcasting certain things. Big difference, IMO.

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you are not free to decide, thats not freedom.

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As Guido said, 100% freedom is not feasible in any country. The government needs to take action when they feel that there's a problem.

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Originally posted by WDZ
No. Television stations are being prohibited from broadcasting certain things. Big difference, IMO.

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Whats the big difference..?

Ah, the free speech and morals debate.

Example one, I don't see anyone sending about petitions for the freedom to kill people, simply cause its morally wrong; (for most people).

Now you have to draw a line were stuff we see/hear is morally wrong, as a government that are elected. They do that to what they see fit.

People seem to think that the government can get away with it all, but with the power of the media in many developed countries, (sorry, not too hot on others); the government are restricted to what they can show simply because they would be ridiculed otherwise.

Sometimes I think the media influences government decisions too much and this maybe is its fight-back.

My two pence.

Ok.. not my probe i dont live at USA and im not pretending to.
Europe is more interesting, pretty and free but if something like that started on my country.. i would be capable of almost everything to give freedom to my country.

2 days ago (25 april) it made  30 years since portugal is free from someone like saddam(Salazar)(NOT the same same same) u were not free to blame your life condition, salazar, to read what u want, watch , hear.. everything passed by the guys before u can watch read..ect
On USA, with this is hapenning u can stop calling ur country a democratic one u can agree with all the things that FCC is doing but with it ur country stops being democratic.

Havent you just summed up the argument against this "free speech" thing?

Outlining that country for having disciplines on free speech doesn't make it a communist state. The fact this petition exists proves it isn't.

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Originally posted by PT_KiD
Whats the big difference..?

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The government is not telling citizens what they can or cannot see/hear. They're not trying to make it illegal to see nudity or hear foul language.

They're dealing with the broadcasters, who freely send their inappropriate shows to millions of people. The FCC wants to find an acceptable balance between the First Amendment (freedom of speech) and what is shown on TV.

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Originally posted by Johnny_Mac
Now you have to draw a line were stuff we see/hear is morally wrong, as a government that are elected. They do that to what they see fit.

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Yep, I agree, and recent events  (super bowl breast baring, Bono's f-word) crossed a line that was drawn.

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Originally posted by PT_KiD
On USA, with this is hapenning u can stop calling ur country a democratic one u can agree with all the things that FCC is doing but with it ur country stops being democratic.

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A democracy is a government run by the people, or by elected representatives. How the hell is the FCC going to change that by increasing fines for broadcasters?

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Originally posted by Johnny_Mac
Outlining that country for having disciplines on free speech doesn't make it a communist state. The fact this petition exists proves it isn't.

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Exactly.

heres soemthign bout radio

the pete price show is on at 10 o clcok and the caller cant swaer cos the radio station will get in shit

what a laod of bollocks do u agree on this pollicy

I think what this is about is who's going to make the decision about what's right and what's wrong to broadcast? I know is the FCC, but in the end is a person who makes the decision...

I mean, what's morally wrong for you may not be wrong for me... so what gives you the right to impose your morality to me... you know what i mean...?

You want "safer TV" for your kids to watch? Maybe you should stop using TV as an "electronic nanny" and spending more quality time with your kids...

Nudity and profanity are no-brainers, what i'm concerned is the finer things...such as expresing ideas or points of view..., first is TV & Radio...then what? Newspapers? the Internet? the first amendment protects American citizens/residents to say what they want... you can just change the channel or turn off the TV... you are not obligated to watch these shows or "Britney almost naked in her last video"

With this i'm not saying that porn channels should be in the networks ok...?

The First Amendment read as follows...

"Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof; or abridging the freedom of speech, or of the press; or the right of the people peaceably to assemble, and to petition the Government for a redress of grievances"

Cheers...