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you geeks


i didn't get along with opera when i tried using it, so i went with firefox and haven't turned back

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Originally posted by Exca
I still think in every way that IE shows every page correct

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* RaceProUK resists laughing like a maniac
IE's standards support is the worst around, and has been for some time. So, when it displays pages that 'look' right, they are in fact sometimes being displayed wrong i.e. not according to the standards.

Then explain to me why Opera is showing a navigating frame to small which results in splitted links, and all other browsers (read safari, ie, firefox) display it correct? Maybe IE isn't to strict with displaying, but it's always displaying RIGHT, over 8 years surfing with IE i never found one page which had displaying faults , and for as fas as i'm concerned, that's the only thing that matters to me. All other browsers got me displaying weird things on the first day of use (even professional coded webshop-sites). Plus Opera has some strange bugs like the mouse that sometimes actually moves below the mousepoint on your screen and not being compatible with pcbanking and stuff...

Some guy I know does the website of Belgium biggest bank, these numbers are the belgian users:

"Also at this point 1.5% of the population uses Opera; 55.1%
uses Internet Explorer 6; 1.9% Internet Explorer 7; 4.1% Internet
Explorer 5, 26.4% Firefox and 2.5% Netscape.)

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Originally posted by Exca
over 8 years surfing with IE i never found one page which had displaying faults

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Because people spend hours trying to make completely standards compliant sites compatible with Internet Explorer using god knows how many hacks to please the majority of viewers.

If you want to write a few things using CSS, you'll soon start to hate IE

I totally agree that IE isn't strict with codes, i knew that, and yes css is a pain in the ass with IE, but based on what I saw, IE shows them all good, in contrary to some other browsers which are claimed to be better.

So if firefox and Opera are better, then why is there still a difference is displaying?

The way I see it, there is no such thing as the perfect engine...

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Originally posted by Exca
Then explain to me why Opera is showing a navigating frame to small which results in splitted links, and all other browsers (read safari, ie, firefox) display it correct? Maybe IE isn't to strict with displaying, but it's always displaying RIGHT, over 8 years surfing with IE i never found one page which had displaying faults , and for as fas as i'm concerned, that's the only thing that matters to me.

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Don't get so worked up over this! I'll explain...

As with anything on the Internet, HTML is standardised. Any program that supports HTML has to use the HTML standard.
Now, some browsers (Firefox, Opera et al) stick to the standards very closely. Therefore, when they operate in 'standards-compliant mode', they display HTML according to the specification. If the HTML is not standards-compliant, the browser switches to 'quirks mode', which makes a best guess.

Now, IE is different altogether. It's standards support lags behind, and sometimes is absent. This leads to standards-compliant HTML being rendered wrong i.e. not according to the standard. Since the majority of users use IE, developers then work around the flaws in IE, meaning the site can look bad in more standards-compliant browsers.


To give a prime example: the IE Box Model vs. the W3C Box Model. This image explains it all:

The W3C Box Model is the international standard here.
Source

Edit: Who cleared the poll?

Love firefox but a lot of websites look naf in it. Use firefox unless i get problems with a website in that case i use ie for backup.

Like RaceProUK mentioned, most of the developers used tweaks for websites to look better on Internet Explorer bypassing the actual standards as it was the browser used with majority.

Now the trend is changing, I myself have a company where we develop websites and multimedia presentations.

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Originally posted by hiqbal
Now the trend is changing

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Not to mention IE's standards support is getting better by the second.

If Opera is the best then why has only one person voted for it?