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Originally posted by Exca
With a nice Midas Veronica or what 

(like on my desktop


Anyway back on topic; pictures!

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lol, well that would be a BIG mixing panel, not what I'm used to (but the principle is exactly the same, just for even more instruments).

So I use more this stuff:
http://www.soundcraft.com/images/products/product_sheet/mpm.gif

than this stuff:
http://www.soundcraft.com/images/products/product_sheet/urei1603.gif

just a random, but much used, brand

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Originally posted by Voldemort
im not a dj, i just like music , but i have this:

EURORACK PRO RX1602

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another cheap budget product (in fact, they are exactly the same as Behringers, the only difference is that it is a subbrand of Behringer, and there is another one, but I forgot its name)....

Don't get me wrong though, for low budgets those are good. It makes mixing affordeable to almost anyone, which is a very good thing IMHO.

(I would even buy one myself one day for the occasional recording)

Me and cookie where talking about how nicer vinyls sound to cds etc...

my dad should talk to cookie. Ill show you what my dad has.

Ill edit later

Ooo vinyls are nice, my friend dj's and i get too muck about on his decks and mixer i find it quite interesting.

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Originally posted by CookieRevised
(in fact, they are exactly the same as Behringers, the only difference is the brand name; I even think Behringer owns Eurorack or vice versa or something)....

Don't get me wrong though, for low budgets those are good. It makes mixing affordeable to almost anyone, which is a very good thing IMHO.

(I would even buy one myself one day for the occasional recording)

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i know... buy the get the job across who cares how
i should take a pic of my vinil player playing the original
wish you where here album

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Originally posted by CookieRevised
I certainly need to learn a hell of lot more to become a true music technician)

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more?
dodgy cookie your head is going to explode...

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Originally posted by Exca
I spin allround music, my meaning is: medium doesn't matter. It's all about the music.

I like vinyl over cd's too, but cd's in allround mode are weigh harder to do than vinyl. Vinyl is easy because of the precise pitch and bend possibilities. I get my vinyl's together in 2 seconds. Cd's is a bit harder. But ofcourse, vinyl is the real shit. Nothing goes above the feeling of the black gold.

I spin professional, at the moment (residency)


@Jesus: producing is another part of the whole thing, and that's all pc basicly indeed. I'll change topictitle

As mixing with pc concerns: I'm totally PRO Final Scratch, because you just use the mp3's, but you keep your technique. But pcdj is just pressing 2 buttons and everything goes automaticly, and mostly illegal. Thats what i'm against.

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I agree with you on most of that, except when you say that CD mixing is harder than vinyl/pc. I used a CD mixer once and both players had a sync button, just like the pcdj software.

The reason I like vinyl over any other medium (except livesets) is that it's one of the few mediums/media (dunno which it is ) which provide you with the TOTAL analog sound, even the frequencies a human being will never hear, but which WILL affect the sound you DO hear. Some dynamics are just lost in CD and especially in MP3 conversion. The new S-audio CD does not have this loss, but it's not widely used (yet).
That's also why I only like the idea behind Final Scratch. I like the idea of having the turntable feeling in your entire digital music collection, but for more professional purposes the mp3/wma/any other digital sound format is just not convenient enough. For home use it's fine ofcourse.
If it's the illegality you're against, you shouldn't use Final Scratch either for obvious reasons

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Originally posted by CookieRevised

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Originally posted by Jesus
[*]Behringer BCR2000
[*]Behringer MX1604A

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aiaiaiaiaiai.... cheap copycat crap
faders will brake down, crack, distort, etc over time, sound quality is nowhere near pro-material... but budget wise it is cool of course (1/2 to 1/10th of the price of quality brands; but it reflects in quality too of course).

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lol indeed, except for the problems, I've never had any (lucky me, heard of enough people who had)
but I don't care, I'm a cheapskate.
But I'd never buy anything from Behringer that produces sound itself. The BCR is just a MIDI controller and the mixer only forwards the sound (does quite an ok job on that).
I'm not a pro, just experimenting with the stuff, so it does not have to be all that for me. but I do have an opinion about the "pro" stuff

If you have BPM counters, hell turn em off! And for the synchronize button; i wouldn't relay on that one, it's crap and using it won't get you a place at a club

Vinyl sounds warmer indeed, the main reason is that a cd knows 'digital clipping' (bit convertors) which has a limit. So the music on a cd can't be loud technically. Compressing it (not the same as zipping a file) makes it louder, but sharper. Vinyl's can't clip, how louder you go how bigger the distance between the trails, so you get a warmer sound. Also the cracklings of dust and some soundcolor changing parts of the nice analog technique make the music come alive.

Mp3 is a lossy format, but you usually BUY your mp3's on beatport as a dj, in 192kbp/s. No-oone can hear the difference. There is a online test which you hear both original and mp3, from bad to worse. You have to guess when it's 2 times the original one. Everyone dies on the fact they chose mp3 and original. Even in a club, and trust me, you can't hear the difference. Roger sanchez, and many other dj's already take the advantage of it. Spinning mp3's, either with turntables or cdplayers is the future, (denon hd2500) and the whole market is gettin onto it.

But that's it for the technicians under us, let's stay on topic please, maybe we should chat in another thread, but show some gear!

ok, on topic. Since I don't own anything (yet), here is some stuff I've worked with (or work on daily basis):

http://www.yamahaproaudio.com/products/mixers/mg16_12/photos.html
http://www.soundcraft.com/product_sheet.asp?product_id=22
http://www.mackie.com/products/1642vlzpro/index.html
http://fr.audiofanzine.com/img/produits/normal/2/2/22656.jpg
and some Behringers and Euroracks

If I can (and think about it) I'll take some pictures of the new (but basic) equipment they bought for the other polyvalent hall I sometimes need to go to for work.

oh yeah, I forgot the pics comin' up soon

Here they are, don't look at the mess on my desk that's normal

Ermm k. here it is:

DM2 (crappy mixer but I'm getting something better soon)


I use it with Traktor DJ Studio 3. I don't use the programs that come with it because they suck so I use it with traktor.

M-Audio Oxygen 8


Does the job

I use FL Studio, and CuBase for my music.

My Logitec Speakers:


Nothing too special but gets the job done.   I'm not rich so it takes time for me to get new shit. Next I want to get a

Virus TI:


AND

Pioneer CDJ1000 or something better I dont know yet:



My Music: http://www.acidplanet.com/artist.asp?songs=205636&T=5709

Make sure you get the MkIII of the cdj1000

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