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RE: RE: MVP Award - Hello Windows Live!
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[joke=lame]
for those people joining just to bitch:
MVPs(excluding plus members): Most Valuable Pieces of Shit

**must** take as a lame **joke**

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Cookie, TReKiE and myself are MVPs
I dont find it funny

Only kidding, im not a MVP

I'm not an MVP.
I don't find it funny.


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10-08-2006 11:12 PM
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RE: MVP Award - Hello Windows Live!
Sorry dude, guess having such sponsor doesn't pay off afterall....

Continue with your work though and remove sponsors,  might get lucky again...
10-09-2006 03:25 PM
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RE: MVP Award - Hello Windows Live!
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Sorry dude, guess having such sponsor doesn't pay off afterall....

Continue with your work though and remove sponsors,  might get lucky again...

You know nothing, so don't make a fool out of yourself.

No sponsor = no Messenger Plus! Live = You'd come moaning that there's no Messenger Plus! Live = irony.
10-09-2006 03:32 PM
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RE: RE: MVP Award - Hello Windows Live!
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Sorry dude, guess having such sponsor doesn't pay off afterall....

Continue with your work though and remove sponsors,  might get lucky again...

You know nothing, so don't make a fool out of yourself.

No sponsor = no Messenger Plus! Live = You'd come moaning that there's no Messenger Plus! Live = irony.

I don't know. I bet Patchou has made enough money from the sponsor program already - only speculation, but I'm sure he's made a lot. Consider the amount of people who have downloaded his software, and the smaller amount that have actually installed the adware. Even if it's a small amount, it's still a fair amount of money.

I'm not bashing his program - it's amazing code, and I congratulate Patchou on it. I just don't think he can expect an MVP for bundling adware with it. Surely he knows its damaged the program's reputation, and many less computer iliterate people have installed it without knowing.

This post was edited on 10-09-2006 at 04:37 PM by LEE123.
10-09-2006 04:28 PM
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RE: MVP Award - Hello Windows Live!
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I'm not bashing his program - it's amazing code, and I congratulate Patchou on it. I just don't think he can expect an MVP for bundling adware with it.

for the last time, they didn't remove him because his program has adware. they knew about the adware for ages, and they knew about it when adding him to the team. microsoft only removed him because people bitched.
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RE: RE: MVP Award - Hello Windows Live!
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I'm not bashing his program - it's amazing code, and I congratulate Patchou on it. I just don't think he can expect an MVP for bundling adware with it.

for the last time, they didn't remove him because his program has adware. they knew about the adware for ages, and they knew about it when adding him to the team. microsoft only removed him because people bitched.

But they bitched about the adware, and that in turn meant he was removed due to it. Microsoft handled it poorly, to say the least.
10-09-2006 04:42 PM
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RE: MVP Award - Hello Windows Live!
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Originally posted by LEE123
I'm not bashing his program - it's amazing code, and I congratulate Patchou on it. I just don't think he can expect an MVP for bundling adware with it.

for the last time, they didn't remove him because his program has adware. they knew about the adware for ages, and they knew about it when adding him to the team. microsoft only removed him because people bitched.

Sorry dude this is the official statement from Microsoft:

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" Cyril Paciullo was awarded with MVP status this year on the basis of his technical expertise and strong community contribution. However, his active MVP Award status was revoked as soon as the extent of the connection between his application and spyware was made apparent to the MVP Program."



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Sorry dude this is the official statement from Microsoft:

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" Cyril Paciullo was awarded with MVP status this year on the basis of his technical expertise and strong community contribution. However, his active MVP Award status was revoked as soon as the extent of the connection between his application and spyware was made apparent to the MVP Program."



Like I said, MS handled this poorly. Of course they knew his program had optional adware within the program, I guess they were hoping nobody would complain. They cannot be seen to reward a developer for practically pushing (how the complainers see it) adware onto users. Especially when MS are pushing Vista for security against adware/spyware crap.

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Argh, the "oh noes, Patchou can't be MVP because he makes money" people won :(. Still an MVP in my eyes.

Exactly. An MVP in my eyes as well.
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RE: MVP Award - Hello Windows Live!
Yep, I agree with LEE123.
Especially when she says Microsoft managed the thing in a poor way. Honestly, Microsoft can be a great enterprise, but they make some huge mistakes sometimes that leaves me wondering wether there's a genious or a retard managing it.

Giving you an award and then leaving you without it, I think that lacks of moral. Besides, it's irresponsable. They cannot just do that, they look like a child who made a mistake and doesn't care about the consequences, they give you the award and suddenly they take it from you for free.
I'm sure Patchou is not really going to show Microsoft his deep feelings but I can be pretty sure this kind of attitude from Microsoft hurt him.
It makes me believe that Microsoft reacts/responds to the "community" and to the critics, perhaps Patchou should answer that the same way, according to THIS community ;)

All the way back, LEE123 is "sort of right". Giving an award to someone that "indirectly pushes" (according to critics, or not) spyware to your computer is some kind of mistreating for the novice users who just clicked "YES"/"I ACCEPT" when installing MP. I still hear from people and friends who don't really like to instal MP because of the dissasters that the sponsor did after they install MP, but the thing is that most of them are not even AWARE of the fact that they chose to install the sponsor at all. So here comes the stupid aspect of all this. Clicking NEXT until a software is installed WITHOUT reading anything that appears on the screen is just as irresponsable as giving an award and then taking it out, AS MUCH AS giving an award and then taking into account what the community says about it. I mean, it seems Microsoft sometimes can lack of conviction. And this fact probes it clearly.

I insist, what should especialists and the community say about Microsoft disabling antispyware modules from its operating system just because they cannot stop piracy.

Think about it.
10-09-2006 06:18 PM
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