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well  its alot harder posting 100 things seeing as im not a scripter i was just giving my opinion on it  >.<


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02-21-2007 06:55 PM
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Suggestion to WDZ: Disable repping people with less than XX posts :).
Still seems the best solution to me.
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If you dont like it, why dont you just leave?


All forums are like this, if you dont like it, leave. imo.
Sure, that's what I did and it didn't make a difference.. Plus, it's a lot funnier to see punks like you acting like they actually had authority

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RE: RE: Members behaviour towards new people!
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Originally posted by MenthiX
Suggestion to WDZ: Disable repping people with less than XX posts :).
Still seems the best solution to me.



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RE: Members behaviour towards new people!
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Originally posted by Dazmo
If you dont like it, why dont you just leave?


All forums are like this, if you dont like it, leave. imo.
Sure, that's what I did and it didn't make a difference..

you mean, you still got annoyed by us lot even though you weren't here? :S
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02-21-2007 06:59 PM
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RE: Members behaviour towards new people!
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Originally posted by MenthiX
Suggestion to WDZ: Disable repping people with less than XX posts :).
Still seems the best solution to me.
I think stricter banning from the rep system, if people show that they are abusing the rep system then you can't be sure whether any rep they give is vaild.
Also how about reps expireing after a certain amount of time active in the forum, as some people have been mass neg repped, then changed yet they still have some neg reps left over, because people forget the change them.

Although i still think the rep system should stay the same and people should learn to use it properly
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Agreed. Reputation is something you build up. You can't know someones reputation from just a few posts.
I don't completely agree with that.

Not all new members are innocent. Some of them come here knowing full well that they're doing something wrong.

Ban evaders, spammers, advertisers, flamers, porn-link-posters, the list goes on. I actually find it really useful when these people get a bad rep. For one thing, it gives everyone else an easy way to know what's going on. Also, if the dodgy member replies to a support thread, that red number next to his post tells everyone that "this guy probably shouldn't be trusted."

Some boards out there actually auto-ban people based on reputation, which attests to its usefulness as a "troublemaker indicator," IMO.

But feel free to debate... :p
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Not all new members are innocent. Some of them come here knowing full well that they're doing something wrong.

Ban evaders, spammers, advertisers, flamers, porn-link-posters, the list goes on.
Do the innocent new members have to suffer because of the non-innocent ones? Is it justified to tell them to die and make sexual assumptions in reps? To flame them where they can't even respond back? Yes, it's those responces that made me decide to post a thread about it most of all.

This guy clearly was confused as to where his thread should go and didn't want it to go unnoticed. Nowhere did he flame anyone, spam a porn link or existing threads nor did he advertise in any sense of the word!

Seriously is there no respect at all anymore? To those who think this kind of behaviour is the correct one ask yourself if you would like to be treated that way yourself.

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RE: Members behaviour towards new people!
Why didn't you just link to the Reputation System Guidelines in your first post, instead of the second third page of the thread? Instead of making this into Yet Another Pointless Rant thread, why not remind everyone to follow those guidelines? A reminder is more likely to reach people than a rant.


Did anyone PM the member with the Forum Rules and gave him a pat on the back, telling not to worry about what others said? Did anyone try and explain why people gave him such comments?

Did anyone PM WDZ about the comments that broke the Guidelines, so that he removed the ones he thought were inappropriate?


I'm tired of people who take the easy path and complain about the forum members, instead of doing things themselves. If you care so much, take the time to talk to new members!



The Reputation System doesn't need to change. People need to stop obsessing over it.



If there's a suggestion that should be made is that a new member receives a PM with links to the Forum Rules, explanation of the Reputation System, and that kind of thing.

Something brief, to-the-point, but precise. (Remember, not many people want to read, unfortunately.)

But even that is just pointless, IMO.

This post was edited on 02-21-2007 at 09:07 PM by L. Coyote.

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O.P. RE: RE: Members behaviour towards new people!
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Why didn't you just link to the Reputation System Guidelines in your first post, instead of the second page of the thread?
Because i wanted to discuss the whole behaviour and not just the neg repping.
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Instead of making this into Yet Another Pointless Rant thread, why not remind everyone to follow those guidelines? A reminder is more likely to reach people than a rant.
The guidelines are there as a sticky...does it realy need more reminding than that?
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Did anyone PM the member with the Forum Rules and gave him a pat on the back, telling not to worry about what others said? Did anyone try and explain why people gave him such comments?
Yes i did pm that member, told him i understand his confusion as to where a thread should go etc and not to take notice of the negs given. I also asked him to delete his threads that were still unanswered at that point (back then just one got an answer). Those threads were gone later on, i can't see wether he did that himself or if a mod/admin did.
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Did anyone PM WDZ about the comments that broke the Guidelines, so that he removed the ones he thought were inappropriate?
Simply removing reps isn't gonna teach people how to correctly use the repping system. I'm sorry i didn't screenie the reps that were there when i made this thread now..
Guess i'm too nice giving people a second chance on reps they gave...
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I'm tired of people who take the easy path and complain about the forum members, instead of doing things themselves. If you care so much, take the time to talk to new members!
I did not take the easy path at all...i did pm the new member too. I even took time to try and educate people, tryin to make them see why what they done is wrong. I took the risk of people hating me for "slapping them on the wrist".

This post was edited on 02-21-2007 at 09:16 PM by Sunshine.
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