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An open letter to Yuna Software
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O.P. RE: An open letter to Yuna Software
Wow, its really been almost 3 years since I posted this? Feels like a lot longer. Hey Yuna, you you have any download, install and usage statistics? Patchou used to post these quite frequently, I'd be interested in comparing how well your so-called product is failing.

Patchou has managed to support himself and his project without forced ad-ware for 8 years prior, and now you've removed that freedom.

For what it's worth, I still use Plus! for WLM version 4.83, the last version credited as made by Patchou. I have never downloaded or installed your software nor do I have any intention for the future. This [Image: mptester.gif] tag that I have means nothing. There's been brief testing periods in September 2011 and September 2012 for Plus!-WLM and only one beta period in March 2012 for Plus!-Skype. Your UI continues to be crap, the community is dead, and the number of one-off users asking for help has also severely dwindled.

Your parent company's business is advertising, marketing and online publicity
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Originally posted by http://www.msgplus.net/About-Us
Messenger Plus! became a market.com brand in July, 2011. Market.com brings together the best in ecommerce, epayments and emarketing solutions, providing all the needed services for a successful ebusiness. For more information, visit www.market.com
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The Canadian office is conveniently located in the same office Patchou originally helped you set up. We all know there is an office in Isreal, as has been mentioned before, and there is conveniently an address for Israel on market.com (Oh and go back to school, the street name is spelt wrong). A quick search of that address brings up another company, ClickTale, based around online marketing and analytics. It looks like a really fancy building too. Most of the addresses are also shared by a company called XT-Commerce, an online payments merchant. And hey, whats that in the page footer? Exhibit A, B, C, D, and finally E.

So what's all this mean?I have a striking suspicion that you're using Messenger Plus and its ad-ware/spyware to harvest data from the people using it to support more and more advertisers, or otherwise selling the data to 3rd parties. Let's take a look:

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Originally posted by http://www.market.com/privacy-policy
Every time you visit and use the Site we may record certain information such as your interaction with the Site, the pages read, movement from page to page, your web request, Internet Protocol address, browser information and application numbers, referring page, cookies, geographical location, date and time, etc.

However, if you wish to take advantage of special services that we may offer from time to time, you may need to provide certain information and this statement (as may be amended from time to time) shall apply as well as the terms of use and privacy guidelines specific to such services, where available.

When you sign up, fill out a form, comment, send us an e-mail or ask us to respond to you by email, or when you communicate with us in any other way ("Communication"), we retain your e-mail address if provided and the information that you have included in the respective Communication as well as our responses to such Communication. We may associate such information with information received from other channels such as your Site usage information.

So yes, you do collect information from anyone visiting your site, and you keep track of what each user does via their email address (when provided). So what do you do exactly with this data you're collecting?
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HOW WE USE THE INFORMATION

We may use the information collected to optimize performance, improve usability, provide additional or customized offerings, track status indicator, make sure things are working properly, enhance the experience on the Site and for use in aggregate for commercial purposes such as marketing, promotions etc.

We may share information internally as well with third parties, such as trusted suppliers, business partners, advertisers and search engines. However, unless specifically indicated in this document, such information is collected and shared without any association to your personally identifying information so that you remain anonymous.

So yes, you most definitely are collecting and sharing your data for purposes of more advertising. you are in the business of doing business. Your sole purpose is to basically spy on the general population, and sell whatever information you can siphon from us at a profit to you. Is it theft? Nope, because taking our information is our payment to you to use Plus. And that, IMO, is outright scum.

Oh, and I took a screenshot of all your webpages instead of providing links to them so none of your SEO crap gets here.

This post was edited on 02-11-2013 at 12:14 AM by MeEtc.
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An open letter to Yuna Software - by MeEtc on 02-18-2010 at 06:29 AM
RE: An open letter to Yuna Software - by matty on 02-18-2010 at 03:38 PM
RE: An open letter to Yuna Software - by NanoChromatic on 02-18-2010 at 05:32 PM
RE: An open letter to Yuna Software - by Lou on 02-18-2010 at 06:06 PM
RE: An open letter to Yuna Software - by Kafman on 02-18-2010 at 09:52 PM
RE: An open letter to Yuna Software - by Willz on 02-18-2010 at 11:29 PM
RE: An open letter to Yuna Software - by Hank on 02-19-2010 at 01:07 AM
RE: An open letter to Yuna Software - by WDZ on 02-19-2010 at 01:35 AM
RE: An open letter to Yuna Software - by Hank on 02-19-2010 at 01:48 AM
RE: An open letter to Yuna Software - by John Anderton on 02-19-2010 at 01:49 AM
RE: An open letter to Yuna Software - by ShawnZ on 02-19-2010 at 02:47 AM
RE: An open letter to Yuna Software - by Hank on 02-19-2010 at 03:12 AM
RE: An open letter to Yuna Software - by CookieRevised on 02-19-2010 at 05:44 AM
RE: An open letter to Yuna Software - by vows on 02-19-2010 at 07:48 AM
RE: An open letter to Yuna Software - by CookieRevised on 02-19-2010 at 11:17 PM
RE: An open letter to Yuna Software - by riahc4 on 03-03-2010 at 02:36 AM
RE: An open letter to Yuna Software - by Chris4 on 03-03-2010 at 03:21 AM
RE: RE: An open letter to Yuna Software - by riahc4 on 03-05-2010 at 12:46 AM
RE: An open letter to Yuna Software - by Menthix on 03-05-2010 at 01:02 AM
RE: An open letter to Yuna Software - by riahc4 on 03-05-2010 at 01:30 AM
RE: An open letter to Yuna Software - by Rolando on 03-05-2010 at 03:23 AM
RE: An open letter to Yuna Software - by Menthix on 03-05-2010 at 10:50 AM
RE: An open letter to Yuna Software - by MeEtc on 03-05-2010 at 08:10 PM
RE: An open letter to Yuna Software - by Chrono on 03-05-2011 at 06:06 AM
RE: An open letter to Yuna Software - by MeEtc on 03-05-2011 at 07:33 AM
RE: RE: An open letter to Yuna Software - by Jieff on 03-06-2011 at 02:50 PM
RE: An open letter to Yuna Software - by Arcticwolfx on 03-06-2011 at 10:58 PM
RE: An open letter to Yuna Software - by riahc4 on 03-13-2011 at 07:33 PM
RE: An open letter to Yuna Software - by Discrate on 03-14-2011 at 03:49 AM
RE: An open letter to Yuna Software - by MeEtc on 03-14-2011 at 05:27 AM
RE: An open letter to Yuna Software - by matty on 03-14-2011 at 12:47 PM
RE: An open letter to Yuna Software - by ixesha on 06-28-2011 at 12:14 AM
RE: An open letter to Yuna Software - by MeEtc on 06-29-2011 at 04:40 AM
RE: An open letter to Yuna Software - by prashker on 06-29-2011 at 01:52 PM
RE: An open letter to Yuna Software - by matty on 06-29-2011 at 02:09 PM
RE: An open letter to Yuna Software - by ixesha on 07-07-2011 at 11:03 AM
RE: An open letter to Yuna Software - by MeEtc on 02-21-2012 at 11:32 PM
RE: An open letter to Yuna Software - by Nathalie on 02-23-2012 at 03:38 PM
RE: An open letter to Yuna Software - by danielocdh on 07-28-2012 at 03:35 AM
RE: An open letter to Yuna Software - by MeEtc on 08-10-2012 at 02:54 PM
RE: An open letter to Yuna Software - by Spunky on 08-10-2012 at 05:24 PM
RE: An open letter to Yuna Software - by John Anderton on 08-19-2012 at 08:56 PM
RE: An open letter to Yuna Software - by Hanki on 08-20-2012 at 02:02 AM
RE: An open letter to Yuna Software - by matty on 08-20-2012 at 11:54 AM
RE: An open letter to Yuna Software - by riahc4 on 11-11-2012 at 10:07 AM
RE: An open letter to Yuna Software - by vincerooney on 02-10-2013 at 09:23 PM
RE: An open letter to Yuna Software - by MeEtc on 02-11-2013 at 12:13 AM
RE: An open letter to Yuna Software - by traxor on 02-11-2013 at 08:48 PM
RE: An open letter to Yuna Software - by YottabyteWizard on 04-09-2013 at 07:05 AM
RE: A way to get a copy of the forums? - by crank on 02-20-2013 at 10:55 AM


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