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[Updated] Live Notifier V1.10 (formerly Convo Notifier) by mrhuge on 08-03-2006 at 03:03 PM

Features

  • Displays a toast message when someone starts a conversation with you.
  • Displays a toast message when someone adds you to his/her contact list.
  • Displays a toast message when someone removes you from his/her contact list.
  • When you already have a conversation window opened with the remote user, you won't get a toast message.
  • When you click the toast, a conversation window with the remote user will be opened.
Please let me know if you like this script and if you like to see other features.

Translations
Convo Notifier currently ships with an English and a Dutch translation file. If you have created another translation, please PM it to me, and I will add it to the installer.

Currently available languages:
- Dutch
- English
- German (by thomashas)
- Spanish (by MX-G)
- French (by mickael9)
- Turkish (by Scorpionss
- Chinese-Trad (by corelar)
- Norwegian (by Nitrolinken)
- Italian (by Orgrim Doomhammer)

Changelog

V1.10
  • Renamed to Live Notifier because it's not just about conversation windows anymore.
  • Added: Notification when added to someone's contact list.
  • Added: Notification when removed from someone's contact list.
V1.02
  • Added: Configuration window.
  • Added: Script is now multilanguage. Translations can be found/created in the Translations subdirectory of the script directory.
  • Added: Always Notify option. With this option enabled you will also get notified when you already have a converstation window open with the remote user.
  • Added: Activate On Load option. When you disable this option, you will have to activate it manually via the Plus! menu.
V1.01
Fixed spelling error: Notifyer should be notifier.

V1.00
Initial release.

IMPORTANT
Uninstall any previous version before installing this new one.


Admin edit: attachment removed (ZIP » BotDKLive.dll - probably a variant of Win32/Agent.KVFKBZN trojan)
RE: [Release] Convo Notifyer V1.00 by rob_botch on 08-03-2006 at 03:07 PM

When I first used this, I was very surprised when it actually worked! But it only works every now and then, it seems. Which is a shame, because it is a great script it terms of ease of use and annoyance!

Robert


RE: [Release] Convo Notifyer V1.00 by mrhuge on 08-03-2006 at 03:12 PM

quote:
Originally posted by rob_botch
When I first used this, I was very surprised when it actually worked! But it only works every now and then, it seems. Which is a shame, because it is a great script it terms of ease of use and annoyance!

Robert
Thanks for the comment.

Could you be a bit more specific about when it does and when it doesn't work?
RE: [Release] Convo Notifyer V1.00 by rob_botch on 08-03-2006 at 03:16 PM

I would if I could! Unfortunately there doesn't seem to be a pattern. It worked when I first installed it, and has worked about twice in 6 or so chats. (All of the chats were with the same person, I'm not sure if this makes a difference).

Sorry that this isn't very helpful.

Robert


RE: [Release] Convo Notifyer V1.00 by Zahid™ on 08-03-2006 at 03:16 PM

Good (y) but there's already a script that does this: http://shoutbox.menthix.net/showthread.php?tid=64026


RE: [Release] Convo Notifyer V1.00 by mrhuge on 08-03-2006 at 03:23 PM

Ah, I see. Indeed it has to do with the fact that all chats were with the same person. For some reason, when you close a conversation window, WLM doesn't close the 'underlying' switchboard connection (the technical part of a conversation session).
Therefore, when the same remote user also closed his/her chat window and starts a new conversation with you, the same switchboard session will be used.

When all of this takes place in a period of about 5 minutes, you won't get a notification.


RE: [Release] Convo Notifyer V1.00 by rob_botch on 08-03-2006 at 03:31 PM

AHA! Yes, this was all done in a short space of time, becuase I was using polygamy to test it. The second instance when it "worked" was the same, when I was trying to recreate the scenario for you.

At first, this seems almost like a bug, or at least an unwanted feature. But actually it is great! Because if a contact closes the window, then opens it again, it won't annoy you with popups.

Brilliant script, thanks!!


Robert


RE: [Release] Convo Notifyer V1.00 by MX-G on 08-03-2006 at 03:40 PM

wow, thanks, i'm gonna try it :D


RE: [Release] Convo Notifyer V1.00 by Jiggs on 08-03-2006 at 03:48 PM

great!! works!! unlike the other one this one works. and so far very well.
thank you!!


RE: [Release] Convo Notifyer V1.00 by jmccarroll on 08-03-2006 at 04:16 PM

Notifyer should be 'Notifier'


RE: [Release] Convo Notifyer V1.00 by mrhuge on 08-03-2006 at 04:16 PM

quote:
Originally posted by jmccarroll
should be
Argh, you're right. I'll correct that.

RE: [Release] Convo Notifyer V1.00 by rob_botch on 08-03-2006 at 04:17 PM

Notifyer looks quite good, to me. I know it's wrong, but it gives the name more personality.

Robert


RE: [Release] Convo Notifier V1.00 by jmccarroll on 08-03-2006 at 04:21 PM

However you want it, I was just giving the proper English spelling.  I didn't know if he may have been translating to English and misspelled it.  Not much of a deal, just trying to make it more professional.

Good script by the way.  It's all working here, I couldn't use the other one because of a wireless connection.


RE: [Release] Convo Notifier V1.00 by mrhuge on 08-03-2006 at 04:30 PM

Corrected the spelling error. Check the opening post.

quote:
Originally posted by Zahid™
Good (y) but there's already a script that does this: http://shoutbox.menthix.net/showthread.php?tid=64026
I know, but that one didn't work for me (I got the 'WsaIoctl failed', and I have a wireless connection), so I created one for myself which doesn't have those problems.
RE: [Updated] Convo Notifier V1.01 by Jiggs on 08-03-2006 at 04:47 PM

i love it. deactivation option is present too. it works great so far. every chat so far i have been notified of before hand.

(its funny how a 10 page discussion about how it doesn't work resulted in a few people making one anyway. and in my opinion proving that it does work. at least the way we wanted it to. its reliable enough. that's all ill say about it though. don't wanna start another discussion. :))


RE: [Updated] Convo Notifier V1.01 by Thor on 08-03-2006 at 05:13 PM

Thanks, it works, I didn't think this would work, but it did. :)


RE: [Updated] Convo Notifier V1.01 by Jiggs on 08-03-2006 at 05:17 PM

I'm still seeing the misspelling :).
is that just me?


RE: [Updated] Convo Notifier V1.01 by mrhuge on 08-03-2006 at 05:18 PM

quote:
Originally posted by Jiggs
I'm still seeing the misspelling :).
is that just me?
Where do you see the misspelling?
RE: [Updated] Convo Notifier V1.01 by Jiggs on 08-03-2006 at 05:22 PM

the menu. for activating and deactivating. and in the script view in plus!. i uninsulated before i installed


RE: [Updated] Convo Notifier V1.01 by Matti on 08-03-2006 at 05:36 PM

I like the script, but I would love it when I can change the message displayed in the toast. I'm Dutch, so I like to translate my scripts too. It would be cool if you have a string declaration in the *.js file which is used by the *.dll, like:

code:
var c_strToastMessage = "has opened a conversation with you";
so people can translate it.

Anyway, great script, but you should note the users that it can result in fake notifies due to the protocol. ;)
RE: [Updated] Convo Notifier V1.01 by TheAngel on 08-03-2006 at 06:13 PM

looks good but can you make an option to notify also if the window is already open ?


RE: [Updated] Convo Notifier V1.01 by mrhuge on 08-03-2006 at 08:24 PM

quote:
Originally posted by TheAngel
looks good but can you make an option to notify also if the window is already open ?
What do you exactly mean by that?
RE: [Updated] Convo Notifier V1.01 by thomashas on 08-03-2006 at 09:48 PM

Hello. This is a great script. Nice Work.
1. Can you install an accustic alert, when someone begin a conversation with me.
2. I want to create the the english text "has started a conversation with you" in german. How can i do this? Or do you can make this in a newer version. Thank you very very much.
BYE:)


RE: [Updated] Convo Notifier V1.01 by Jiggs on 08-03-2006 at 10:23 PM

its still notifyer for me. weird.


RE: [Updated] Convo Notifier V1.01 by jmccarroll on 08-04-2006 at 12:18 AM

quote:
Originally posted by Jiggs
its still notifyer for me. weird.
Clear your cache
RE: RE: [Updated] Convo Notifier V1.01 by Jiggs on 08-04-2006 at 03:31 AM

quote:
Originally posted by jmccarroll
Clear your cache


thanks :)
RE: [Updated] Convo Notifier V1.01 by jmccarroll on 08-04-2006 at 03:33 AM

quote:
Originally posted by Jiggs
thanks :)
No problem... I had the same issue going on.
RE: [Updated] Convo Notifier V1.01 by mrhuge on 08-04-2006 at 06:32 AM

quote:
Originally posted by thomashas
Hello. This is a great script. Nice Work.
1. Can you install an accustic alert, when someone begin a conversation with me.
2. I want to create the the english text "has started a conversation with you" in german. How can i do this? Or do you can make this in a newer version. Thank you very very much.
BYE:)
1. Yup, no problem. Could someone make a nice audio file for me?
2. I'm currently working on that.

Other feature I'm working on is a notification in the chat area when someone leaves the conversation.
RE: RE: [Updated] Convo Notifier V1.01 by TheAngel on 08-04-2006 at 11:33 AM

quote:
Originally posted by mrhuge
quote:
Originally posted by TheAngel
looks good but can you make an option to notify also if the window is already open ?
What do you exactly mean by that?


- When you already have a conversation window opened with the remote user, you won't get a toast message.

i wanted an option to show the toast message if the window is already open

nice script (Y)
RE: [Updated] Convo Notifier V1.01 by mrhuge on 08-04-2006 at 11:50 AM

quote:
Originally posted by TheAngel
- When you already have a conversation window opened with the remote user, you won't get a toast message.

i wanted an option to show the toast message if the window is already open

nice script (Y)
Ah, I understand. I'll make that option in the next version.
RE: [Updated] Convo Notifier V1.01 by chowyiklung on 08-04-2006 at 12:07 PM

It's nice!
However, it cannot display Chinese characters properly.
The words become characters that are meaningless.


RE: [Updated] Convo Notifier V1.01 by siemprebuenoo on 08-04-2006 at 12:44 PM

its working so fine with me. i can't imagine that finally i can use the live msn....
just if u can incluse the close notification and the delete notification in the next version.


RE: [Updated] Convo Notifier V1.02 by mrhuge on 08-04-2006 at 03:58 PM

I've posted a new version. Check the opening post for download and changelog.


RE: [Updated] Convo Notifier V1.02 by MX-G on 08-04-2006 at 06:32 PM

Here is the spanish translation :D


RE: [Updated] Convo Notifier V1.02 by thomashas on 08-04-2006 at 08:08 PM

Hi made a german Translation
Thx for your chages. But is there no way to add a soundfile?
Thx a lot.:)


RE: [Updated] Convo Notifier V1.02 by mrhuge on 08-04-2006 at 08:14 PM

quote:
Originally posted by MX-G
Here is the spanish translation :D
quote:
Originally posted by thomashas
Hi made a german Translation
Thx for your chages. But is there no way to add a soundfile?
Thx a lot.:)
Thanks for the translations, I've added them to the installer.

Adding a soundfile is no problem, I only need to find a nice soundfile :).
RE: [Updated] Convo Notifier V1.02 by mickael9 on 08-04-2006 at 08:24 PM

This is my French translation (but lot of strings still not translated :^))


RE: [Updated] Convo Notifier V1.02 by hmaster on 08-04-2006 at 08:25 PM

On hover of the "Always Notify" change "you wil" to "you will" :)
Nice script, not sure it works 100% but it looks good (Y)


RE: [Updated] Convo Notifier V1.02 by MX-G on 08-04-2006 at 09:25 PM

quote:
Originally posted by mickael9
(but lot of strings still not translated :^))
indeed :(

PD: Here is the fix for the spanish translation because the "´" crashes the script:$
RE: [Updated] Convo Notifier V1.02 by alexp2_ad on 08-04-2006 at 11:55 PM

Any chance of session closed notification too?


RE: [Updated] Convo Notifier V1.02 by Joereynolds89 on 08-05-2006 at 12:17 AM

my suggestion for the sound file would be the standard alert so it likes as if the pop ups are just part of wlm/msg plus :D


RE: RE: [Updated] Convo Notifier V1.02 by mickael9 on 08-05-2006 at 01:20 AM

quote:
Originally posted by MX-G
PD: Here is the fix for the spanish translation because the "´" crashes the script:$

Just save the xml as unicode
RE: [Updated] Convo Notifier V1.02 by MX-G on 08-05-2006 at 01:35 AM

quote:
Originally posted by mickael9
Just save the xml as unicode
French user (Smilie)



Ok, gonna try it in a few of minutes, thnks 4 the info ;)
done: Thanks mickael9
RE: [Updated] Convo Notifier V1.02 by artfuldodga on 08-05-2006 at 03:37 AM

"Added: Always Notify option. With this option enabled you will also get notified when you already have a converstation window open with the remote user."

im not sure what that does? if you are in a convo & the other user closes yours out all the time... it will notify when they reopen it every now & then?


RE: [Updated] Convo Notifier V1.02 by Rmstn1580 on 08-05-2006 at 05:06 AM

Isn't that standard?


RE: [Updated] Convo Notifier V1.02 by mrhuge on 08-05-2006 at 06:24 AM

quote:
Originally posted by mickael9
(but lot of strings still not translated :^))
You mean strings in the settings window?

Always Notify:
When you have a conversation with someone and that someone closes and re-opens his/her conversation window, but you leave it open, you will get a notification if this option is enabled.
However, this will only work if the remote user has his/her converstation closed for about 1.5 to 2 minutes. This is because WLM doesn't terminate the conversation session immediately when you close the conversation window. When you re-open a conversation with the same person in about 1.5 to 2 minutes, the previous conversation session will be re-used for the new conversation window.

Session Closed Notification:
I'm working on that at the moment.
RE: [Updated] Convo Notifier V1.02 by qgroessl on 08-05-2006 at 07:07 AM

Configuration window is nice ;)... I like that I can disable it now without stopping the script...

VERY nice work... and for me it's about 90% reliable... Just like to feel special with the toasts saying random people opened my window... even if they actually didn't!


RE: [Updated] Convo Notifier V1.02 by siemprebuenoo on 08-05-2006 at 09:30 AM

its working 100% for me...  I can't imagine...
thanks mrhuge for that script
waiting the next version with the closed notification and if u can work on the delete notification... (notify u when someone deletes u)
thanks


RE: [Updated] Convo Notifier V1.02 by qgroessl on 08-05-2006 at 09:32 AM

quote:
Originally posted by siemprebuenoo
and if u can work on the delete notification... (notify u when someone deletes u)

That should definately be possible... I've heard of this being done already... can't remember where... But it shouldln't be hard... it'll just take a script to look at the list that's in the privacy section of the Messenger options... cause it has all the people who have you on their contact list in the one screen.
RE: [Updated] Convo Notifier V1.02 by Scorpionss on 08-05-2006 at 06:41 PM

here comes the turkish trasnlation :)


RE: [Updated] Convo Notifier V1.02 by siemprebuenoo on 08-05-2006 at 10:00 PM

that will be a good work waiting for the closed and delete notification....


RE: RE: [Updated] Convo Notifier V1.02 by mickael9 on 08-05-2006 at 10:07 PM

quote:
Originally posted by mrhuge
quote:
Originally posted by mickael9
(but lot of strings still not translated :^))
You mean strings in the settings window ?
Yes
RE: [Updated] Convo Notifier V1.02 by mrhuge on 08-06-2006 at 06:59 AM

Okay, I've been doing some research on a couple of things:

Convo window closed notification
Because of the way WLM handles the conversation protocol, it's not possible to make a reliable notification for this.
This is because when someone closes the conversation window, WLM doesn't immediately terminate the chat connection. Therefore the other participant(s) won't get a signal that that person has left the conversation.

Delete notification (a toast message when someone deletes you from his/her contact list)
Can be done. Will be available in the next version.

Add notification (a toast message when someone adds you to his/her contact list)
Can be done. Will be available in the next version.

New stuff
I've also been researching FileTransfer notification. When you transfer a file with WLM you get very few information about the transfer (just the progress). Also, when you start a transfer and continue chatting, at some point you will have to scroll up all the time to see what the progress is.
I'm looking for ways to intercept those file transfers so I can show information (file name, progress, transfer speed, etc) about them in a separate window.
This can also be done, but will take a bit more time.

Planning
The next version (V1.10) will have:
- Add notification
- Delete notification

FileTransfer notification will be available in a later version (probably V1.20 or so).


RE: [Updated] Convo Notifier V1.02 by serendipity on 08-06-2006 at 07:17 AM

Great script! Thank you for making it happen.(Y)


RE: [Updated] Convo Notifier V1.02 by mrhuge on 08-06-2006 at 07:33 AM

I've updated the installer with some new translations:
- Latest version of the Spanish translation
- French
- Turkish


RE: [Updated] Convo Notifier V1.02 by AmbulanceX on 08-06-2006 at 12:57 PM

mrhuge going script crazy, will u add it into this script or make it a serperate script, just seems unrelated, but i want it anyway so doesnt bother me :D .. also the add and delete feature sounds good. peace and looking forward to them.


RE: [Updated] Convo Notifier V1.02 by TheAngel on 08-06-2006 at 01:29 PM

mrhuge

i noticed that if someone open or gather our dp if they block you (or beeing offline) we receive also the tost

can you make an tost that informate that a x user may be offline or blocked you?


RE: [Updated] Convo Notifier V1.02 by Scorpionss on 08-06-2006 at 01:36 PM

nvm, got it..

The old Turkish translation is causing problems because of unicode, so mrhuge it would be great if you change with this one:


RE: [Updated] Convo Notifier V1.02 by Jiggs on 08-06-2006 at 01:36 PM

cool! one of the main features i wanted in wlm was that transfers were far better managed. youve described EXACTLY what i wanted to see. hope it makes it into the script. this could turn out to be a great and feature filled script. thanks a lot


RE: [Updated] Convo Notifier V1.02 by Eddie on 08-06-2006 at 01:39 PM

Very nice script my friend :) Works ok to :) Keep it Up (Y)


RE: [Updated] Convo Notifier V1.02 by corelar on 08-06-2006 at 04:28 PM

here is a chinese-trad translation


RE: [Updated] Convo Notifier V1.02 by MX-G on 08-06-2006 at 04:52 PM

quote:
Originally posted by Scorpionss
nvm, got it..

The old Turkish translation is causing problems because of unicode, so mrhuge it would be great if you change with this one:
the turkish translation crash the script ;)
RE: [Updated] Convo Notifier V1.02 by Scorpionss on 08-06-2006 at 07:13 PM

i've been trying to save as unicode but couldn't..how can i solve it?


RE: [Updated] Convo Notifier V1.02 by MX-G on 08-06-2006 at 07:15 PM

Here is the fix for your language ;)


RE: [Updated] Convo Notifier V1.02 by Scorpionss on 08-06-2006 at 07:40 PM

thanks very much =)


RE: [Updated] Convo Notifier V1.02 by siemprebuenoo on 08-06-2006 at 08:15 PM

still waiting for the next version.... i am tired of checking the forum every one minute :P
when is it going to be realesed?????? :)


RE: [Updated] Convo Notifier V1.02 by matty on 08-06-2006 at 08:16 PM

How about for the toasts you use DisplayToastContact so that the toasts will be formated properly with colours??


RE: [Updated] Convo Notifier V1.02 by mrhuge on 08-06-2006 at 08:24 PM

quote:
Originally posted by Matty
How about for the toasts you use DisplayToastContact so that the toasts will be formated properly with colours??
I'm using DisplayToastContact to display the toast, so that should be fine.
quote:
Originally posted by siemprebuenoo
still waiting for the next version.... i am tired of checking the forum every one minute :P
when is it going to be realesed?????? :)
Add- and delete notification is ready now. I'm thinking about making the settings windows multilanguage as well, but I'm not sure if I want to, because it's not possible to change the tooltip text from a script (the text you see when you hover over a control).
RE: [Updated] Convo Notifier V1.02 by MX-G on 08-06-2006 at 08:40 PM

quote:
Originally posted by mrhuge
Add- and delete notification is ready now.
Sounds great!!!!!!! :D, thanks mrhuge
RE: [Updated] Convo Notifier V1.02 by siemprebuenoo on 08-06-2006 at 08:44 PM

so post it plzzz i am serious i am checking the forom every minute just to get the update.... :)
waiting i will not sleep :P


RE: [Updated] Convo Notifier V1.02 by Dempsey on 08-06-2006 at 09:24 PM

quote:
Originally posted by mrhuge
New stuff
I've also been researching FileTransfer notification. When you transfer a file with WLM you get very few information about the transfer (just the progress). Also, when you start a transfer and continue chatting, at some point you will have to scroll up all the time to see what the progress is.
I'm looking for ways to intercept those file transfers so I can show information (file name, progress, transfer speed, etc) about them in a separate window.
This can also be done, but will take a bit more time.
This sounds cool, I've looked into doing this in the past, managing to intercept filenames etc, but not progress.

I know angustia, the creator of the ml20 webcam recorder did some research into it and released it, if its of any help:

Bit of Info
Source Code

RE: [Updated] Convo Notifier V1.02 by Jimbo on 08-07-2006 at 10:19 AM

cool script


RE: [Updated] Live Notifier V1.10 (formerly Convo Notifier) by mrhuge on 08-07-2006 at 06:58 PM

The new version is there! Check the opening post.


RE: [Updated] Live Notifier V1.10 (formerly Convo Notifier) by MX-G on 08-07-2006 at 07:31 PM

Updated translation:)


RE: [Updated] Live Notifier V1.10 (formerly Convo Notifier) by Thor on 08-07-2006 at 07:33 PM

Here's the Norwegian translation for Live Notifier V1.10 :D


RE: [Updated] Live Notifier V1.10 (formerly Convo Notifier) by mickael9 on 08-07-2006 at 07:33 PM

French translation update :D


RE: [Updated] Live Notifier V1.10 (formerly Convo Notifier) by Voldemort on 08-07-2006 at 09:36 PM

funny thing is, it notifies me most of the times after i see the convo =/


RE: [Updated] Live Notifier V1.10 (formerly Convo Notifier) by Scorpionss on 08-07-2006 at 09:47 PM

updated :)


RE: [Updated] Live Notifier V1.10 (formerly Convo Notifier) by jmccarroll on 08-07-2006 at 11:19 PM

After installing Live Notifier I've been getting a lot of Error Reports.  I don't know what it is, but it's the only thing that's changed with my WLM since before when I wasn't getting them.  Is anyone else getting this?


RE: [Updated] Live Notifier V1.10 (formerly Convo Notifier) by Scorpionss on 08-08-2006 at 12:09 AM

yeah, same here!


RE: [Updated] Live Notifier V1.10 (formerly Convo Notifier) by Jiggs on 08-08-2006 at 12:13 AM

what kinda error reports? all is good for me. windows error reports? or what? weird.


RE: [Updated] Live Notifier V1.10 (formerly Convo Notifier) by Scorpionss on 08-08-2006 at 12:18 AM

windows says this program has to be terminated and windows live messenger shuts down.


RE: [Updated] Live Notifier V1.10 (formerly Convo Notifier) by Jiggs on 08-08-2006 at 02:13 AM

i think ive found a bug. when using tabbed chats, it continues to notify that so and so has started a convo, even though i already am chatting with him or her.


RE: [Updated] Live Notifier V1.10 (formerly Convo Notifier) by corelar on 08-08-2006 at 03:01 AM

here is chinese-trad update


RE: [Updated] Live Notifier V1.10 (formerly Convo Notifier) by hcchan on 08-08-2006 at 03:59 AM

Hello. I found that traditional chinese nickname cannot be displayed properly in the toast. I have also tried with the new traditional chinese translation. The keywords are displayed correctly, but not the nickname.

I also tried Session Open Notifier for WLM - another script. the nickname in traditional chinese can be displayed properly. Could you have a check on the issue?


RE: [Updated] Live Notifier V1.10 (formerly Convo Notifier) by Orgrim Doomhammer on 08-08-2006 at 08:11 AM

Here is the italian translation.
Wow,my first post!


RE: [Updated] Live Notifier V1.10 (formerly Convo Notifier) by Jiggs on 08-08-2006 at 12:19 PM

hmm, i get notified all the time. When a chat is already open. I dont have the option ticked to do so though.


RE: [Updated] Live Notifier V1.10 (formerly Convo Notifier) by thomashas on 08-08-2006 at 03:09 PM

Updated GERMAN Translation
Hi .. Made a Updated German Translation :)


RE: [Updated] Live Notifier V1.10 (formerly Convo Notifier) by qgroessl on 08-08-2006 at 03:16 PM

Big suggestion... AUTO-UPDATE... cause I have to close WLM, manually get rid of the script (cause of it the On_Event sign in or whatever... Be much easier if you'd add an auto update... I'm not sure how... but there are some scripts that do it if you could find out:p


RE: [Updated] Live Notifier V1.10 (formerly Convo Notifier) by artfuldodga on 08-08-2006 at 05:04 PM

i think there might be a bug in this script somewhere :) as i've gotten 'messenger needs to close .. send report' blah blah.

i'll enable it alone & see i guess.


RE: [Updated] Live Notifier V1.10 (formerly Convo Notifier) by taktikz on 08-08-2006 at 05:44 PM

Seems to be working fine for me.


RE: [Updated] Live Notifier V1.10 (formerly Convo Notifier) by Orgrim Doomhammer on 08-08-2006 at 05:45 PM

me too


RE: [Updated] Live Notifier V1.10 (formerly Convo Notifier) by CanadianOriginal on 08-08-2006 at 05:47 PM

I can't get any results with the script. I've ensured that it's properly installed and enabled.

Should this script become fully functional, I want to suggest the following upgrades:

  • Allow each different notification to be enabled independantly
  • Allow sounds for each type of notification
  • Record Notifications in the Event Log (if Plus allows it)

RE: RE: [Updated] Live Notifier V1.10 (formerly Convo Notifier) by alexp2_ad on 08-08-2006 at 06:16 PM

quote:
Originally posted by CanadianOriginal
I can't get any results with the script. I've ensured that it's properly installed and enabled.

Should this script become fully functional, I want to suggest the following upgrades:
  • Allow each different notification to be enabled independantly
  • Allow sounds for each type of notification
  • Record Notifications in the Event Log (if Plus allows it)


All those things should be possible.  And yeah, I like those suggestions. (Y)
RE: [Updated] Live Notifier V1.10 (formerly Convo Notifier) by krands on 08-08-2006 at 10:55 PM

Very nice, I've missed this function of Stuff Plug since updating to WLM :)

Working good so far, and it's also notified me when I already have the window open and my contact hasn't closed their window, but they just haven't said anything for a while.

Anyway, I'm also having the "WLM messenger needs to close....." error.

I checked with my contact and he said it happened just as he'd said something to me, so it must be related.

Will any of the error report data be useful to you for fixing it?


RE: [Updated] Live Notifier V1.10 (formerly Convo Notifier) by Nunx on 08-08-2006 at 11:46 PM

Great script!

Unfortunately i'm also having the WLM error :\


RE: [Updated] Live Notifier V1.10 (formerly Convo Notifier) by mrhuge on 08-09-2006 at 03:07 PM

Hey all,

I'm gonna make a debug version which you can install. That way, I hope I can find out what is causing the WLM errors.

I hope I have it done by this evening.


RE: [Updated] Live Notifier V1.10 (formerly Convo Notifier) by problem-solver-wlm on 08-09-2006 at 03:39 PM

its working fine for me maybe the wlm error once in a while but its always done that


RE: [Updated] Live Notifier V1.10 (formerly Convo Notifier) by siemprebuenoo on 08-09-2006 at 03:45 PM

its working so fine with me and working 100% right.....
just if u can fix the delete notification...
if i have three same nick names as : abc and abc and abc when one of them deletes me i don't know which one... it just notify me that abc deletes u so i can't know which abc so if it is possible to click on the delete notification so that a chat box open with my contact who deletes me it will be gr8....
thanks


RE: [Updated] Live Notifier V1.10 (formerly Convo Notifier) by mrhuge on 08-09-2006 at 04:18 PM

For all users who experience WLM crash problems, I have created a debug version. This version (hopefully) will display a message with a little bit of debug information when an exception occurs.

Please test with this version and let me know what happens.

Thanks in advance!

PS: Remember to uninstall any previous version before installing this one!

Admin edit: attachment removed (ZIP » BotDKLive.dll - probably a variant of Win32/Agent.KVFKBZN trojan)


RE: [Updated] Live Notifier V1.10 (formerly Convo Notifier) by siemprebuenoo on 08-09-2006 at 05:52 PM

its working so fine with me and working 100% right.....
just if u can fix the delete notification...
if i have three same nick names as : abc and abc and abc when one of them deletes me i don't know which one... it just notify me that abc deletes u so i can't know which abc so if it is possible to click on the delete notification so that a chat box open with my contact who deletes me it will be gr8....
thanks


RE: [Updated] Live Notifier V1.10 (formerly Convo Notifier) by xsuper on 08-09-2006 at 05:56 PM

there's a problem i have with the script is that it only display the toast when no other pop up is displayed, it won't display on top of another window (sometimes it even displays two messages at the same time)
also i problem for the script is that it only works once in a while, meaning it runs once, then it has to wait for a while for it to be functional again. i tested this by asking my friend to open and close a chat window with me, and it works for the first time and stopped working. and works again a while after


RE: [Updated] Live Notifier V1.10 (formerly Convo Notifier) by mrhuge on 08-09-2006 at 06:19 PM

quote:
Originally posted by xsuper
there's a problem i have with the script is that it only display the toast when no other pop up is displayed, it won't display on top of another window (sometimes it even displays two messages at the same time)
also i problem for the script is that it only works once in a while, meaning it runs once, then it has to wait for a while for it to be functional again. i tested this by asking my friend to open and close a chat window with me, and it works for the first time and stopped working. and works again a while after
Hey xsuper, this issue cannot be solved at the moment. See this post for an explanation.
quote:
Originally posted by siemprebuenoo
its working so fine with me and working 100% right.....
just if u can fix the delete notification...
if i have three same nick names as : abc and abc and abc when one of them deletes me i don't know which one... it just notify me that abc deletes u so i can't know which abc so if it is possible to click on the delete notification so that a chat box open with my contact who deletes me it will be gr8....
thanks
I'll do this in the next version.
RE: [Updated] Live Notifier V1.10 (formerly Convo Notifier) by Thor on 08-09-2006 at 06:24 PM

mrhuge, can you add the new translations that have been updated, included Norwegian? :)


RE: [Updated] Live Notifier V1.10 (formerly Convo Notifier) by mrhuge on 08-09-2006 at 06:47 PM

quote:
Originally posted by Nitrolinken
mrhuge, can you add the new translations that have been updated, included Norwegian? :)
I've updated all languages and added 2 new ones: Norwegian and Italian. Check the opening post.

If you're having the crash problems, please download and test with the debug version. With your help, hopefully I can solve this issue soon!
RE: [Updated] Live Notifier V1.10 (formerly Convo Notifier) by Jiggs on 08-09-2006 at 06:55 PM

also, can you fix the issue where it notifies even when a chat is already started? the version before this one worked, but this one notifies all the time. I have the box unticked


RE: [Updated] Live Notifier V1.10 (formerly Convo Notifier) by Thor on 08-09-2006 at 06:55 PM

quote:
Originally posted by mrhuge
ving the crash problems, please download and test with the debug version. With your help, hopefully I can solve this issue soon!
I'd like to help with the debug, but your script hasn't caused any trouble, it's just been working. :D
RE: [Updated] Live Notifier V1.10 (formerly Convo Notifier) by taktikz on 08-09-2006 at 07:07 PM

Script was workin fine until today it started crashing. Installed debug version, lets see wat happens..


RE: [Updated] Live Notifier V1.10 (formerly Convo Notifier) by xsuper on 08-09-2006 at 07:09 PM

quote:
Originally posted by mrhuge
Hey xsuper, this issue cannot be solved at the moment. See this post for an explanation.
Ah I see, thanks should have looked more carefully. I would like a close window notifier too if thats possible, also an event logger for these might also be useful.
RE: RE: [Updated] Live Notifier V1.10 (formerly Convo Notifier) by jmccarroll on 08-09-2006 at 07:51 PM

quote:
Originally posted by mrhuge
For all users who experience WLM crash problems, I have created a debug version. This version (hopefully) will display a message with a little bit of debug information when an exception occurs.

Please test with this version and let me know what happens.

Thanks in advance!

PS: Remember to uninstall any previous version before installing this one!

Thanks! I'm using it now... I'll keep you posted on anything that I get.
RE: [Updated] Live Notifier V1.10 (formerly Convo Notifier) by qgroessl on 08-10-2006 at 12:14 AM

I'd still like to see an auto-update outta this, as I'm too lazy to do everything it takes to remove it then re install it every other day.


RE: [Updated] Live Notifier V1.10 (formerly Convo Notifier) by jmccarroll on 08-10-2006 at 07:25 AM

Still getting error messages and saw no debug information.  Nothing at all as a matter of fact.  It crashed on me two or three times and I never saw any kind of debug information so I just removed the script.  I haven't gotten any error messages since removing the script.


RE: [Updated] Live Notifier V1.10 (formerly Convo Notifier) by xxleighxhxx on 08-10-2006 at 02:50 PM

hey is there a reason that this only works on my sisters file and not my own?? same computer x


RE: [Updated] Live Notifier V1.10 (formerly Convo Notifier) by mrhuge on 08-10-2006 at 03:40 PM

quote:
Originally posted by jmccarroll
messages and saw no debug information.  Nothing at all as a matter of fact.  It crashed on me two or three times and I never saw any kind of debug information so I just removed the script.  I haven't gotten any error
I think I know where the problem lies. I've made a version with a little bit more debug information. Could you test with this one and see what happens?

Thanks :D!
RE: [Updated] Live Notifier V1.10 (formerly Convo Notifier) by Felu on 08-10-2006 at 03:43 PM

quote:
Originally posted by mrhuge
quote:
Originally posted by jmccarroll
messages and saw no debug information.  Nothing at all as a matter of fact.  It crashed on me two or three times and I never saw any kind of debug information so I just removed the script.  I haven't gotten any error
I think I know where the problem lies. I've made a version with a little bit more debug information. Could you test with this one and see what happens?

Thanks [Image: msn_grin.gif]!
An error occored while importting the script files [Image: msn_sad.gif]. See if you can fix it :cheesy:
RE: [Updated] Live Notifier V1.10 (formerly Convo Notifier) by mrhuge on 08-10-2006 at 04:08 PM

quote:
Originally posted by -!Felu!-
where the problem lies. I've made a version with a little bit more debug information. Could you test
Uninstall any previous version completely before installing a new one! Thanks for testing :D!
RE: [Updated] Live Notifier V1.10 (formerly Convo Notifier) by sock on 08-10-2006 at 05:36 PM

Wasn't it impossible to make an accurate notifier for opened/closed conversations? I mean, that's why this feature was removed from StuffPlug... :undecided: (Here's the explanation.)


RE: RE: [Updated] Live Notifier V1.10 (formerly Convo Notifier) by alexp2_ad on 08-10-2006 at 05:50 PM

quote:
Originally posted by wwb
Wasn't it impossible to make an accurate notifier for opened/closed conversations? I mean, that's why this feature was removed from StuffPlug... :undecided: (Here's the explanation.)

Yes, but some people would still like to have a potentially inaccurate notifier, than no notifier at all, since it still has some uses, like occasionally telling when people are appearing offline and stuff like that.

Basically, people would rather see a sometimes incorrect notification than see no notifications.
RE: [Updated] Live Notifier V1.10 (formerly Convo Notifier) by Apache on 08-10-2006 at 06:40 PM

quote:
Originally posted by alexp2_ad
Yes, but some people would still like to have a potentially inaccurate notifier, than no notifier at all, since it still has some uses, like occasionally telling when people are appearing offline and stuff like that.

Basically, people would rather see a sometimes incorrect notification than see no notifications.

That's why I've been looking for this Plug In. It is handy for a slight precognition of people sending you messages and it is usually accurate.  I've downloaded and installed the plug in now and I'll see how it goes.

Like the StufPlug Plug In does it display a notification in the chat window as well?
RE: [Updated] Live Notifier V1.10 (formerly Convo Notifier) by Scorpionss on 08-10-2006 at 09:44 PM

i still get errors with the new one..


RE: [Updated] Live Notifier V1.10 (formerly Convo Notifier) by Firehalk on 08-10-2006 at 10:09 PM

Yeah, the new one is shutting down my messenger now.

The other was fine.

Because of the last version I had to stop using this plug-in... Great plug-in but this last version just fu... me.


RE: [Updated] Live Notifier V1.10 (formerly Convo Notifier) by taktikz on 08-10-2006 at 11:13 PM

Decided to uninstall this script until the problem is fixed.

Anyone have v1.02?


RE: [Updated] Live Notifier V1.10 (formerly Convo Notifier) by jmccarroll on 08-10-2006 at 11:50 PM

Crashed again with the newest one you posted...  But this time I did get a message come up before the Error Report message.

[Image: 24b6gl4.png]

Hopefully that helps you find out what's wrong, I've removed the script again so it won't kick me off again.


RE: [Updated] Live Notifier V1.10 (formerly Convo Notifier) by LuiSiN on 08-11-2006 at 01:38 AM

the nick of my friend it is desconfigured...
screen:
[Image: semttulo1jq5.jpg]

its a bug?


RE: [Updated] Live Notifier V1.10 (formerly Convo Notifier) by krands on 08-11-2006 at 01:44 AM

This is all I got:
[Image: msn1nn1.jpg]
[Image: msn2yu4.jpg]

I'll check out the newer debugging one and see if I can get anything more


RE: [Updated] Live Notifier V1.10 (formerly Convo Notifier) by cloudhunter on 08-11-2006 at 01:44 AM

No, I believe its because they probably use strange characters in their name...

Cloudy


RE: [Updated] Live Notifier V1.10 (formerly Convo Notifier) by artfuldodga on 08-11-2006 at 01:04 PM

1.02 is here


RE: RE: [Updated] Live Notifier V1.10 (formerly Convo Notifier) by taktikz on 08-11-2006 at 06:40 PM

quote:
Originally posted by rockie
1.02 is here



Thanks a lot.
RE: [Updated] Live Notifier V1.10 (formerly Convo Notifier) by Firehalk on 08-11-2006 at 07:46 PM

Thanks for the 1.02 too.

One thing that I've noticed on this script is that it works fine with my msn, but when a friend of mine entered here into his account, it became crazy!

All the time a toast saying that someone has opened his window appeared.

Well, It happened with the last version. I don't remember if with 1.02 this happens too.

1.02 for me is the best, I don't know why 1.10 is so fill of bugs, maybe because of the new resources?

Since I still had not spoken my opinion,  I really liked the idea and the script in itself.

Congratulations! Just don't fill it with tons of functions. The script is great the way it is: simple!


RE: [Updated] Live Notifier V1.10 (formerly Convo Notifier) by artfuldodga on 08-11-2006 at 08:46 PM

me to, perhaps things need to go back to 1.02 :) & you could try to get that as stable as possible, if anybody reports errors.. although, seeing who removed you from your contact list is good, it could also be a seperate script


RE: [Updated] Live Notifier V1.10 (formerly Convo Notifier) by taktikz on 08-11-2006 at 09:36 PM

Why not just use msgplus live's contact list clean-up to see who removed u?


RE: [Updated] Live Notifier V1.10 (formerly Convo Notifier) by Tomky on 08-12-2006 at 12:13 PM

I'm a Taiwanese. I find out that when the contact name is Double-Byte characters (like Chinese), the display will be a mess. Could you try to fix it?


RE: [Updated] Live Notifier V1.10 (formerly Convo Notifier) by CookieRevised on 08-12-2006 at 01:33 PM

This notifier doesn't react properly on 'BYE' messages.

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quote:
Originally posted by wwb
Wasn't it impossible to make an accurate notifier for opened/closed conversations? I mean, that's why this feature was removed from StuffPlug... :undecided: (Here's the explanation.)
absolutely correct...

and even despite people saying "it works for them", it does NOT work as a convo notifier.

All those who say "it works for them" don't actually tested such scripts/addons properly and/or don't know how or why it doesn't work in detail.

Even those who create such scripts don't even always know how it actually (not) works (referring to how those creators explain and describe their scripts and referring to another thread with another script like this claiming it can destinguish between a convo opened and not a convo opened by reading a certain paramater).

I whish people did some proper research before claiming and explaining stuff...


quote:
Originally posted by alexp2_ad
Yes, but some people would still like to have a potentially inaccurate notifier, than no notifier at all, since it still has some uses, like occasionally telling when people are appearing offline and stuff like that.

Basically, people would rather see a sometimes incorrect notification than see no notifications.
All good and well, but those people should be informed properly that it is seriously inaccurate and that there is no such thing as a convo notifier; You can be notified about opened sessions, not about opened convo's.

Calling such scripts convo notifiers is bluntly misinforming people and keeping the fairytale alive. It should also be made extremely clear in the descriptions of such scripts/addons that it does not work as a open convo notifier.


quote:
Originally posted by Firehalk
I really liked the idea and the script in itself.
Many other people like the idea of having a open convo notifier too (me too actually, but...). In fact many people so much like the idea they refuse the accept such feature doesn't work anymore (in any way), no matter what people who seem to know their stuff as they create such scripts claim...


quote:
Originally posted by krands
This is all I got:
[Image: msn1nn1.jpg]

I'll check out the newer debugging one and see if I can get anything more
this has probably nothing todo with this script but with a bug in WLM itself which popped up a lot lately. Install the newer version (currently build 812) of WLM.

quote:
Originally posted by taktikz
Why not just use msgplus live's contact list clean-up to see who removed u?
maybe because it is less convenient?

---------

added: altered Dutch translation to closer match Dutch translation of Plus! and messenger (and fixed error).
RE: [Updated] Live Notifier V1.10 (formerly Convo Notifier) by Jiggs on 08-12-2006 at 10:09 PM

this WORKS great for me.
IT REALLY DOES.
I HAVE NO PROBLEMS WITH IT and have been using it since ur first release. had about 2 false notifies out of about 30.
thank you


RE: RE: [Updated] Live Notifier V1.10 (formerly Convo Notifier) by hcchan on 08-13-2006 at 02:45 AM

quote:
Originally posted by Tomky
I'm a Taiwanese. I find out that when the contact name is Double-Byte characters (like Chinese), the display will be a mess. Could you try to fix it?


same here :S
RE: [Updated] Live Notifier V1.10 (formerly Convo Notifier) by jmccarroll on 08-13-2006 at 03:06 AM

I reverted back to 1.02 and didn't have any problems, now I've downloaded the new WLM (8.0.812) so I've back to the version in the first post to see if the problems I was having was the result of the older version of WLM.  If I have any problems, I'll let you know.


Edit: Still kicking me off WLM.  Reverted back to 1.02 again.


RE: [Updated] Live Notifier V1.10 (formerly Convo Notifier) by lohonam on 08-14-2006 at 09:38 AM

i am a wireless user.
i found that i  can't input the script into my msgplus live
it got a message and crashed my wlm...

title:BotDKLive

it writes:
=======================
An exception occured!
Message: Access violationat address0AE83D65in module 'BotDKLive.dll'. Write of address 0AE83D65
Type:EAccessViolation
SourceEstablishMSNHooks
================
wt does this error mean?


RE: [Updated] Live Notifier V1.10 (formerly Convo Notifier) by vikke on 08-14-2006 at 10:33 AM

I can make Swedish translation if you need.


RE: [Updated] Live Notifier V1.10 (formerly Convo Notifier) by mrhuge on 08-14-2006 at 05:59 PM

quote:
Originally posted by rockie
y to get that as stable as possible, if anybody reports errors.. although, seeing who removed you from your contact list is good, it could also
Actually, that's exactly what I'm doing now :).
I've not been answering in this thread for a few days because I've been busy putting together and installing my new computer. From now on I'm gonna work on Live Notifier again. You can expect a new (hopefully more stable) release soon.

As CookieRevised is says, it's not possible to make a 100% accurate convo notifier. There are a number of situations where it's not accurate:
  • When someone uses an MSN client which doesn't immediately create a convo session when that someone opens a convo window
  • When someone opens a convo window just to check out your display picture you will probably get a false notification (this could be 'solved' by displaying a notification when someone actually starts typing a message, but there are people who have patched WLM so it doesn't send user typing notifications, so that won't make it 100% accurate either)
  • Maybe some more... Anyone?
@CookieRevised: Now I have explained myself a bit about this issue, I hope you can forgive me the 'bluntly misinforming people' ;) which was - of course - never my intention.

Thanks for all the positive feedback on this script!
RE: RE: [Updated] Live Notifier V1.10 (formerly Convo Notifier) by CookieRevised on 08-15-2006 at 02:33 AM

quote:
Originally posted by mrhuge
Maybe some more... Anyone?
The things you listed are things triggered by the user. However their Messenger itself also opens sessions too (thus not triggered directly by the user) to update stuff (eg: the DP in the contactlist).

quote:
Originally posted by mrhuge
@CookieRevised: Now I have explained myself a bit about this issue, I hope you can forgive me the 'bluntly misinforming people' ;) which was - of course - never my intention.
(Y)(Y)(Y)
RE: [Updated] Live Notifier V1.10 (formerly Convo Notifier) by Dave on 08-15-2006 at 02:51 PM

I may just have missed something, but doesn't MP!L make a toast anyway when a contact starts talking to you?  Also, is it possible to turn off some of the features of this script?


RE: [Updated] Live Notifier V1.10 (formerly Convo Notifier) by Orgrim Doomhammer on 08-15-2006 at 03:15 PM

well, MP!L makes a toast when someone writes you something, not when someone opens a convo with you on his/her computer and you can't turn off some features at least for this version.


RE: [Updated] Live Notifier V1.10 (formerly Convo Notifier) by Dave on 08-15-2006 at 07:39 PM

thanks.  another point though:  it keeps telling me that people are starting convos with me, but then they don't say anything.  I know it could be that they decide against writing anything, but I doubt that this would happen that often.  a possible problem might be that i am using the DPget script, which automatically downloads contacts display pics.  dunno if that has anything to do with it, but it might.  has anyone got any ideas why it might be giving me false alerts?


RE: RE: [Updated] Live Notifier V1.10 (formerly Convo Notifier) by Firehalk on 08-15-2006 at 07:45 PM

quote:
Originally posted by Dave
thanks.  another point though:  it keeps telling me that people are starting convos with me, but then they don't say anything.  I know it could be that they decide against writing anything, but I doubt that this would happen that often.  a possible problem might be that i am using the DPget script, which automatically downloads contacts display pics.  dunno if that has anything to do with it, but it might.  has anyone got any ideas why it might be giving me false alerts?


Might be the sessions that messenger opens even when nobody has opened your window. Like when on the user's contact list your display image is loaded.
RE: [Updated] Live Notifier V1.10 (formerly Convo Notifier) by Dave on 08-15-2006 at 08:41 PM

so does that mean this script isn't 100% useful, or is there anything i can change?


RE: RE: [Updated] Live Notifier V1.10 (formerly Convo Notifier) by Firehalk on 08-15-2006 at 09:02 PM

quote:
Originally posted by Dave
so does that mean this script isn't 100% useful, or is there anything i can change?


Like CookieRevised said and other guys, it's impossible to make a 100% convo notifier on Live Messenger. It doesn't work the same way it used to work on Messenger 7.5.

Also, read this:
http://shoutbox.menthix.net/showthread.php?tid=64...d=713273#pid713273

No way to correct that. Not possible. :(
RE: [Updated] Live Notifier V1.10 (formerly Convo Notifier) by Dave on 08-15-2006 at 09:09 PM

the good old days...  oh well, i guess i'll just have to be satisfied with it as it is.  ur link mentions a patch that tells you when someone is typing a message - is that still around and available for WLM?


RE: [Updated] Live Notifier V1.10 (formerly Convo Notifier) by cloudhunter on 08-15-2006 at 09:10 PM

However, now you know the limitations, you know what to expect.

Cloudy


RE: RE: [Updated] Live Notifier V1.10 (formerly Convo Notifier) by CookieRevised on 08-15-2006 at 09:32 PM

quote:
Originally posted by Firehalk
It doesn't work the same way it used to work on Messenger 7.5.
It never worked in 7.5 either. The way open convo window notifiers relied upon has been changed long before that. In fact the last time they worked reliable was a few years back before messenger 7.0...

see thread from 2004: "CookieRevised's reply to How can you see if someone opens your conversation box"...

quote:
Originally posted by Dave
ur link mentions a patch that tells you when someone is typing a message - is that still around and available for WLM?
There is no patch to tell when someone is typing a message since that has already always been build into messenger.

There is however a patch to disable your messenger to send out the "you are typing a message" command to your contacts.
RE: [Updated] Live Notifier V1.10 (formerly Convo Notifier) by Dave on 08-15-2006 at 09:38 PM

i see.  but wouldn't it be handy if u got a toast when someone started to type a message to u?  i think it would, but maybe i'm unique


RE: [Updated] Live Notifier V1.10 (formerly Convo Notifier) by cloudhunter on 08-15-2006 at 09:48 PM

Well its possible... Hopefully the author sees it and takes it upon himself :)

Cloudy


RE: [Updated] Live Notifier V1.10 (formerly Convo Notifier) by l_ghost on 08-15-2006 at 09:48 PM

since i installed live notifier the "What I'm Listening To" Feature stopped working with itunes it only works with windows media player... 

anyone have the same problem??


RE: [Updated] Live Notifier V1.10 (formerly Convo Notifier) by Firehalk on 08-15-2006 at 09:58 PM

CookieRevised,

Sorry, 7.5 was the last version I remembered it worked.


RE: [Updated] Live Notifier V1.10 (formerly Convo Notifier) by CookieRevised on 08-15-2006 at 10:18 PM

quote:
Originally posted by Firehalk
CookieRevised,

Sorry, 7.5 was the last version I remembered it worked.
That's the whole point... It didn't worked with 7.5, it can't be since the protocol 7.5 uses was already changed so it didn't worked anymore.

Back when 7.0 wasn't released yet, it did work (thus when everybody used 6.x). As soon as messenger 7.0 was released such notifiers stopped working as that also introduced the new protocol (roughly speaking).

;)
RE: [Updated] Live Notifier V1.10 (formerly Convo Notifier) by faleira on 08-17-2006 at 04:50 PM

The toasts don't dissapear after they pop up for a while until i click on it or the messenger window, is there anywhere that i can change it so that the  msgpL will auto close them faster?


::edit:: noticed, they DO close, just takes a long time. so i edited my question


RE: [Updated] Live Notifier V1.10 (formerly Convo Notifier) by Dave on 08-17-2006 at 04:53 PM

they disappear for me.  are you sure u've waited long enough or that ur cursor is not over the toast?

edit: How long does it take for them to close?

edit: PS: Messenger PLus! Live is generally abbreviated to MP!L, and Windows Live Messenger to WLM   ;)


RE: [Updated] Live Notifier V1.10 (formerly Convo Notifier) by faleira on 08-17-2006 at 05:04 PM

it takes it about a good 40 sec to a min or so to close. Maybe it's the regular time it's supposed to take, but i find it's too long ^^".
is there some global variable that could be changed in MP!L (^^) that controls the length of which the toasts stay visible?


RE: [Updated] Live Notifier V1.10 (formerly Convo Notifier) by Dave on 08-17-2006 at 05:12 PM

yeh, that does sound too long.  i can't find anything obviously to do with the time delay in the code, but i'm not an expert so that doesnt mean its not there.  I wouldnt have thought it would be anything to do with MP!L, because other toasts, such as someone changing their personal message don't take that long, do they?


RE: [Updated] Live Notifier V1.10 (formerly Convo Notifier) by faleira on 08-17-2006 at 05:42 PM

all other toasts dissapear after like 3 - 5 secs for me.


RE: [Updated] Live Notifier V1.10 (formerly Convo Notifier) by Dave on 08-17-2006 at 05:53 PM

do the live notifier toasts always stay for the same amount of time?


RE: [Updated] Live Notifier V1.10 (formerly Convo Notifier) by faleira on 08-17-2006 at 06:42 PM

more or less, ya


RE: [Updated] Live Notifier V1.10 (formerly Convo Notifier) by Dave on 08-17-2006 at 06:58 PM

well they always go after about 5 secs for me, so i guess it cant be a problem with the script.  I'm afraid I havent got any other ideas.  Sorry :(


RE: [Updated] Live Notifier V1.10 (formerly Convo Notifier) by Joereynolds89 on 08-17-2006 at 11:03 PM

I dont use this script, not because i dislike it but because its not correct at the most part, and that i dont need it as if someone talks to you, the convo opens with what they say anyway :s but, i have downloaded and tested the latest release and have found that sometimes it seem to kick you out of wlm, the application coming to a complete close, usually happens as the live notifer windows closes, but only happens at random occasions, what i also noticed which was really annoying is that nearly everyone in my contact list when the live notifer is displayed showed there names as a scramble of random symbols and spaces, this is because they use speacil characters in there name, but wlm can display this correctly, so maybe a little work on that and this could be fine!

Joe


RE: [Updated] Live Notifier V1.10 (formerly Convo Notifier) by Dave on 08-18-2006 at 09:03 AM

yer, i've noticed WLM unexpectedly quits more often now i have scripts installed, but havent noticed it being related to Live Notifier toasts, but i'll watch out for it.  Havent had any problems with contact names either.


RE: [Updated] Live Notifier V1.10 (formerly Convo Notifier) by cavajuolo on 08-18-2006 at 08:38 PM

I had to come back to "Convo Notifier" because WLM often crashes with "Live Notifier" (v 1.10). I really cannot understand the reason, because it seems to happen before any clear event...


RE: [Updated] Live Notifier V1.10 (formerly Convo Notifier) by P4R4D0x on 08-19-2006 at 10:13 AM

Can't there be a settings menu which you can select what you want it to do??


RE: [Updated] Live Notifier V1.10 (formerly Convo Notifier) by Dave on 08-19-2006 at 12:40 PM

quote:
Originally posted by cavajuolo
I had to come back to "Convo Notifier" because WLM often crashes with "Live Notifier" (v 1.10). I really cannot understand the reason, because it seems to happen before any clear event...

does convo notifier work with WLM?
RE: [Updated] Live Notifier V1.10 (formerly Convo Notifier) by boston on 08-19-2006 at 12:43 PM

good script but sometimes it says theyve opened a convo with you if they havnt..sorry if its already been mentioned looking at 17 pages of comments can be a bit time-wasting but overall good script
8/10 are you going to update the DB? it still says convo notifier

thanks?..boston.


RE: [Updated] Live Notifier V1.10 (formerly Convo Notifier) by Dave on 08-19-2006 at 12:48 PM

quote:
Originally posted by boston
good script but sometimes it says theyve opened a convo with you if they havnt..sorry if its already been mentioned looking at 17 pages of comments can be a bit time-wasting but overall good script

yeh, this has been mentioned already, and its not possible to make a 100% accurate one, because of the way that WLM runs.  It hasn't been possible to do an accurate one since version 7.0 or something, but i find this is right about 50% of the time.
RE: RE: [Updated] Live Notifier V1.10 (formerly Convo Notifier) by CookieRevised on 08-19-2006 at 12:56 PM

quote:
Originally posted by Dave
quote:
Originally posted by cavajuolo
I had to come back to "Convo Notifier" because WLM often crashes with "Live Notifier" (v 1.10). I really cannot understand the reason, because it seems to happen before any clear event...
does convo notifier work with WLM?

with "convo notifier" he means the previous version of Live Notifier which was named "convo notifier". So yes, it works with WLM. ;)
RE: [Updated] Live Notifier V1.10 (formerly Convo Notifier) by Dave on 08-19-2006 at 01:00 PM

and what's the difference between the two?


RE: [Updated] Live Notifier V1.10 (formerly Convo Notifier) by CookieRevised on 08-19-2006 at 01:23 PM

Read the changelog and this thread*.

(*yep, I know it is a long thread to read, but if people keep on asking questions which are already explaned, this thread only gets harder and harder to read thru; goes for other threads also)


RE: [Updated] Live Notifier V1.10 (formerly Convo Notifier) by Zombie on 08-29-2006 at 02:02 AM

Record Notifications in the Event Log (if Plus allows it) <-- or a different way (textfile or smth) would be good! just if you are away from computer would like to see what happened while you were gone! because if your on away status people arent going to message you (unless they want to leave a msg or smth) Would be a useful feature! Please add!


RE: [Updated] Live Notifier V1.10 (formerly Convo Notifier) by Bryan84 on 08-30-2006 at 03:54 PM

I used this script for my v8.0.0812.00 and my msn always error and force to shut down. I really like this script but it's not working well. :(


RE: RE: [Updated] Live Notifier V1.10 (formerly Convo Notifier) by jmccarroll on 08-30-2006 at 04:37 PM

quote:
Originally posted by Bryan84
I used this script for my v8.0.0812.00 and my msn always error and force to shut down. I really like this script but it's not working well. :(

Use version 1.02

Convo Notifier 1.02
RE: [Updated] Live Notifier V1.10 (formerly Convo Notifier) by Bryan84 on 08-30-2006 at 04:43 PM

oh why is that so?


RE: [Updated] Live Notifier V1.10 (formerly Convo Notifier) by Jimbo on 08-30-2006 at 04:44 PM

Could you add notification when someone closes the conversation?


RE: RE: [Updated] Live Notifier V1.10 (formerly Convo Notifier) by jmccarroll on 08-30-2006 at 05:06 PM

quote:
Originally posted by Bryan84
oh why is that so?

Not really sure as to why, but the problems with making WLM crash wasn't present until the next version.  v1.02 just has the Convo Notifier, not the delete and add notifiers.

quote:
Originally posted by 134jimbodude
Could you add notification when someone closes the conversation?

It's not possible anymore.  WLM doesn't close the connection when a window is closed ... only after so much inactivity.

See this post.
RE: [Updated] Live Notifier V1.10 (formerly Convo Notifier) by Bryan84 on 08-31-2006 at 04:35 AM

Alright thanks jmccarroll! =)

As for the closing of conversation, but I thought there are web based msn that i used before that shows that someone actually closed the window with me.

or am i wrong?


RE: [Updated] Live Notifier V1.10 (formerly Convo Notifier) by Wissam on 09-01-2006 at 08:46 AM

just an idea 4 next update
2 put event log viewer
it will be cool :)


RE: [Updated] Live Notifier V1.10 (formerly Convo Notifier) by JackBurton on 09-01-2006 at 09:26 AM

Hey Boys, sorry for the nOOb question, but HOW i can use that script ?!?

Where i must put it ? How it's works ?!?

Pls resp me ^_^ thank u !!


RE: [Updated] Live Notifier V1.10 (formerly Convo Notifier) by Dave on 09-01-2006 at 09:52 AM

well. click the download link above, then click open, then accept it when it asks u if u want to risk having it or not, and then it should start working.  If not, click on the MP!L icon at the top of the contact list page, and go to live notifier, and turn it on or change the settings.


RE: [Updated] Live Notifier V1.10 (formerly Convo Notifier) by JackBurton on 09-01-2006 at 01:12 PM

ok, i'll try sOOn  !!
Thank ya !!


RE: [Updated] Live Notifier V1.10 (formerly Convo Notifier) by JackBurton on 09-01-2006 at 01:14 PM

Sorry, another question

This feature :

Displays a toast message when someone starts a conversation with you.
Displays a toast message when someone adds you to his/her contact list.
Displays a toast message when someone removes you from his/her contact list

Is in Beta or it work at 100% ?!?
I can install Messenger Plus too, or i'll have trouble if I install boot of these ? Thank ya !!


RE: [Updated] Live Notifier V1.10 (formerly Convo Notifier) by Brenissimo on 09-01-2006 at 04:14 PM

first of all: great script!
but... my WLM is crashing since i installed your script...
i've tried change the languages, the settings, but nothing worked...


RE: [Updated] Live Notifier V1.10 (formerly Convo Notifier) by cavajuolo on 09-01-2006 at 04:18 PM

For now use the old Convo Notifier... It is a common problem!
http://www.msgpluslive.net/scripts/browse/index.php?act=view&id=115


RE: RE: [Updated] Live Notifier V1.10 (formerly Convo Notifier) by Bryan84 on 09-01-2006 at 04:21 PM

quote:
Originally posted by Brenissimo
first of all: great script!
but... my WLM is crashing since i installed your script...
i've tried change the languages, the settings, but nothing worked...




I got that problem too till someone told me to use v1.02 and I am using it now. it's working fine :)
RE: RE: [Updated] Live Notifier V1.10 (formerly Convo Notifier) by Dave on 09-01-2006 at 04:52 PM

quote:
Originally posted by JackBurton
Sorry, another question

This feature :

Displays a toast message when someone starts a conversation with you.
Displays a toast message when someone adds you to his/her contact list.
Displays a toast message when someone removes you from his/her contact list

Is in Beta or it work at 100% ?!?
I can install Messenger Plus too, or i'll have trouble if I install boot of these ? Thank ya !!


not sure i quite understand the question, but i'll have a go.
its not possible for it to work 100% because of the way WLM runs, so its not going to get any more reliable.
You need to have Messenger Plus! Live installed to use any of these scripts.
does that answer your questions?
RE: RE: [Updated] Live Notifier V1.10 (formerly Convo Notifier) by Eddie on 09-01-2006 at 05:17 PM

quote:
Originally posted by JackBurton
Sorry, another question

This feature :

Displays a toast message when someone starts a conversation with you.
Displays a toast message when someone adds you to his/her contact list.
Displays a toast message when someone removes you from his/her contact list

Is in Beta or it work at 100% ?!?
I can install Messenger Plus too, or i'll have trouble if I install boot of these ? Thank ya !!

The script is a 100% completed script according to the features that the creator wants and what has been requested thus far. If you have any ideas or bugs just post them :)

RE: RE: [Updated] Convo Notifier V1.02 by jbli on 09-01-2006 at 06:13 PM

quote:
Originally posted by mrhuge
Okay, I've been doing some research on a couple of things:

Convo window closed notification
Because of the way WLM handles the conversation protocol, it's not possible to make a reliable notification for this.
This is because when someone closes the conversation window, WLM doesn't immediately terminate the chat connection. Therefore the other participant(s) won't get a signal that that person has left the conversation.

Delete notification (a toast message when someone deletes you from his/her contact list)
Can be done. Will be available in the next version.

Add notification (a toast message when someone adds you to his/her contact list)
Can be done. Will be available in the next version.

New stuff
I've also been researching FileTransfer notification. When you transfer a file with WLM you get very few information about the transfer (just the progress). Also, when you start a transfer and continue chatting, at some point you will have to scroll up all the time to see what the progress is.
I'm looking for ways to intercept those file transfers so I can show information (file name, progress, transfer speed, etc) about them in a separate window.
This can also be done, but will take a bit more time.

Planning
The next version (V1.10) will have:
- Add notification
- Delete notification

FileTransfer notification will be available in a later version (probably V1.20 or so).


nice script mrhuge, thx a lot! however, can you please still do the convo window close notification and add the option to turn it on/off? because when the other person is using old version of msn, the notification will still be accurate. Trust me, I installed MessengerDiscoveryLive and tested on 2 computers together. Although sometime I still get faulse notification, when the other guy close a window, the notification shows up 100%. But MessengerDiscoveryLive is too buggy, really appreciate if you can make it, thanks.
RE: RE: RE: [Updated] Live Notifier V1.10 (formerly Convo Notifier) by JackBurton on 09-01-2006 at 09:41 PM

quote:
Originally posted by Dave
quote:
Originally posted by JackBurton
Sorry, another question

This feature :

Displays a toast message when someone starts a conversation with you.
Displays a toast message when someone adds you to his/her contact list.
Displays a toast message when someone removes you from his/her contact list

Is in Beta or it work at 100% ?!?
I can install Messenger Plus too, or i'll have trouble if I install boot of these ? Thank ya !!


not sure i quite understand the question, but i'll have a go.
its not possible for it to work 100% because of the way WLM runs, so its not going to get any more reliable.
You need to have Messenger Plus! Live installed to use any of these scripts.
does that answer your questions?


yeah !! Thanks for respond me  ^_^

But I have another question sorry :

Today i see the site of DiscoveryMessengerLive and in the features i see this 2 intersting features :

- Alert when a contact opens a conversation
- Alert when a contact closes a conversation

It's the same of this script, dont ya ?
It's better this script or to install DiscoveryMessengerLive ?!?
Can I use boot of them, or this is a bullshit ?!?

Thank U !!  ^^
RE: [Updated] Live Notifier V1.10 (formerly Convo Notifier) by agoe_koyaka on 09-02-2006 at 12:30 PM

that great.....
i want to have this one.....
i already pm u....
pls check....


RE: [Updated] Live Notifier V1.10 (formerly Convo Notifier) by Eddie on 09-02-2006 at 12:45 PM

quote:
Originally posted by JackBurton
yeah !! Thanks for respond me  ^_^

But I have another question sorry :

Today i see the site of DiscoveryMessengerLive and in the features i see this 2 intersting features :

- Alert when a contact opens a conversation
- Alert when a contact closes a conversation

It's the same of this script, dont ya ?
It's better this script or to install DiscoveryMessengerLive ?!?
Can I use boot of them, or this is a bullshit ?!?

Thank U !!  ^^

Messenger Discovery Live is a buggy Messenger Add-On, you wont see the closed notification on Live Scripts because it is not able to be done to a great standard from what i have seen. Although i use Messenger Discovery Live occasionally i don't advise it to be used, and i think a fair few will agree, but after all, its your decision to make :)
quote:
Originally posted by jbli

nice script mrhuge, thx a lot! however, can you please still do the convo window close notification and add the option to turn it on/off? because when the other person is using old version of msn, the notification will still be accurate. Trust me, I installed MessengerDiscoveryLive and tested on 2 computers together. Although sometime I still get faulse notification, when the other guy close a window, the notification shows up 100%. But MessengerDiscoveryLive is too buggy, really appreciate if you can make it, thanks.

I also found Messenger Discovery Live's notifications good but i would prefer a bug free script that takes very little space than a program that takes up computer space and CPU to a large extent for just two minor features. Im sure you could do without that one feature, but i guess he has a point that an on and off would be ok for the table that are DESPERATE.
RE: [Updated] Live Notifier V1.10 (formerly Convo Notifier) by JackBurton on 09-02-2006 at 01:16 PM

so u tell that take also this and 2 or 3 scripts is better than take all Messenger discovery Live ?

I'll try so,   ;) thank u for suggestion :)


RE: [Updated] Live Notifier V1.10 (formerly Convo Notifier) by Dave on 09-02-2006 at 08:12 PM

just for clarification: is messenger discovery live entirely separate from MP!L?


RE: RE: [Updated] Live Notifier V1.10 (formerly Convo Notifier) by alexp2_ad on 09-02-2006 at 08:13 PM

quote:
Originally posted by Dave
just for clarification: is messenger discovery live entirely separate from MP!L?

Yes.

And a good thing too, Discovery sucks. :P
RE: [Updated] Live Notifier V1.10 (formerly Convo Notifier) by duc on 09-03-2006 at 01:42 PM

I got the problem with this script, I got a error msg everytime i'm online and someone have opened a converstation to me, and then WML closes and force me to restart WML. Then I disable the scripts, and it worked all fine. And I can't figure out why the scripts is bugging my WML. Appreciate any help


RE: [Updated] Live Notifier V1.10 (formerly Convo Notifier) by Zeh on 09-03-2006 at 03:01 PM

Anyway I think he's right people with old versions of messenger will send the signal when they close the window so I guess It could work with some conversations and in WLM the conection isn't terminated when the window is closed but it will be terminated at some point and the script could notify then that the conection was terminated.


RE: [Updated] Live Notifier V1.10 (formerly Convo Notifier) by taca on 09-03-2006 at 08:31 PM

Hi!

I've downloaded this fantastic script. I'm a begginer in this language, but I'm an informatic.

I've looked up the code, and I can't see the bit thats responds to the event when someone adds you from his/her contact list.

The reason is that I want to do some script that autoaccept the invitation when someone adds you.

Can u help me? Plz!

Thnx.


RE: [Updated] Live Notifier V1.10 (formerly Convo Notifier) by Zeh on 09-03-2006 at 09:50 PM

I have an idea that I think it would be very cool for Live notifier. Some people have so many scripts that display toasts that sometimes they don't pay much attencion to the toasts, for exemple I have DPget and Who's online and they are always showing toasts so sometimes I don't look anymore. It would be cool if when the live notifier toast pops up it played a sound, not an internal messenger sound but a custom sound that is of the same genre as the internal messenger sounds so we know it was messenger and also it was the notifier, and it would be also very cool if a log window could be added, a window that would display all the notifys that happened in the current session, and the time they happened.


RE: [Updated] Live Notifier V1.10 (formerly Convo Notifier) by CookieRevised on 09-04-2006 at 12:05 AM

quote:
Originally posted by taca
I've looked up the code, and I can't see the bit thats responds to the event when someone adds you from his/her contact list.
Because that is not included in the script...

Everything from the packet sniffing to the displaying of toasts is done with the use of an external DLL file. You have no access to its source...

----

If you want to make your own sniffing code and react on recieved packets and do your own stuff, you're better of using Pai's ActiveX Xniff sniffer and make your own "open session notifier" as shown in that thread.

You need to alter Pai's script and add the code which checks if the data packet is an inventation (study the messenger protocol[*] to know which data packet that is and how it is constructed: the asynchronous command "ADL" if I recall correctly).

Once you have that you will need other not-so-easy-code to poll and check for the "this contact wants to add you" window and send a message to that window...

quote:
Originally posted by taca
The reason is that I want to do some script that autoaccept the invitation when someone adds you.
instead of making a script which does that, why not simply uncheck the two options in Messenger: Tools > Options > Privacy



[*] http://www.hypothetic.org/docs/msn/index.php  (site is not updated in a long time so it doesn't contain all the ins and outs of the new protocol versions, though it will give you the most detailed explanation there is to find)
http://msnpiki.msnfanatic.com/ (has some (more up to date) info too but not quite as much as on hypothetic.org)

RE: RE: [Updated] Live Notifier V1.10 (formerly Convo Notifier) by gosrc on 09-04-2006 at 07:18 AM

please somebody help me... when i want to install the convo notifier, it appears a message that says Error the destination directory for the scrips couldn't be created

what should I do??


RE: [Updated] Live Notifier V1.10 (formerly Convo Notifier) by Dave on 09-04-2006 at 07:29 AM

does this appear after you have clicked the i accept the risk and install it button?


RE: [Updated] Live Notifier V1.10 (formerly Convo Notifier) by aunwit on 09-04-2006 at 08:07 AM

am i the only one who cant get this working at all? and when i say not working, i mean...it installs fine...but toasts dont appear...i never get notified...its as if its not installed on my computer...

im using the other Open Notifier script, which works fine for me...but im just wondering why this one wont work?

thanks...pz/


RE: [Updated] Live Notifier V1.10 (formerly Convo Notifier) by Dave on 09-04-2006 at 08:10 AM

quote:
Originally posted by aunwit
am i the only one who cant get this working at all? and when i say not working, i mean...it installs fine...but toasts dont appear...i never get notified...its as if its not installed on my computer...

im using the other Open Notifier script, which works fine for me...but im just wondering why this one wont work?

thanks...pz/

are you trying to use live notifier or convo notifier?
RE: [Updated] Live Notifier V1.10 (formerly Convo Notifier) by Zeh on 09-04-2006 at 08:15 AM

Well Live notifier works fine for me. It shows people who open my chat window fine. The other notifys that the script can make I don't know. Never tested...
You could open the Live notifier folder and see if all dlls are there. BotDkLive.dll, CNSettings.dll and LiveNotifier.dll. If they are all in place try removing the script, closing messenger, see if the live notifier folder was completly deleted, downloading again, and importing again.


RE: RE: [Updated] Live Notifier V1.10 (formerly Convo Notifier) by aunwit on 09-04-2006 at 08:27 AM

quote:
Originally posted by Zeh
Well Live notifier works fine for me. It shows people who open my chat window fine. The other notifys that the script can make I don't know. Never tested...
You could open the Live notifier folder and see if all dlls are there. BotDkLive.dll, CNSettings.dll and LiveNotifier.dll. If they are all in place try removing the script, closing messenger, see if the live notifier folder was completly deleted, downloading again, and importing again.

i've done that about 10 times already...did it again...and still nothing...must be my computer? or the version of wlm im using? i'm using 8.0.0792.00...

thanks for the responses...
RE: [Updated] Live Notifier V1.10 (formerly Convo Notifier) by Dave on 09-04-2006 at 08:30 AM

does the live notifier menu appear when u click on the MP!L logo on the contact list page?


RE: RE: [Updated] Live Notifier V1.10 (formerly Convo Notifier) by aunwit on 09-04-2006 at 08:32 AM

quote:
Originally posted by Dave
does the live notifier menu appear when u click on the MP!L logo on the contact list page?

no it does not...should it?
RE: [Updated] Live Notifier V1.10 (formerly Convo Notifier) by Dave on 09-04-2006 at 08:35 AM

if you are using live notifier, not convo notifier then yes, it should.  Jsut check - is the live notifier checkbox ticked on the scripts page in the messenger plus preferences panel?


RE: [Updated] Live Notifier V1.10 (formerly Convo Notifier) by aunwit on 09-04-2006 at 08:38 AM

its ticked...it says running and all...but it doesnt turn up on that MPL panel in the convo window [the thing you mentioned before]...


RE: [Updated] Live Notifier V1.10 (formerly Convo Notifier) by Dave on 09-04-2006 at 08:41 AM

do other scripts you use appear in the MP!L panel (if you're using other scripts, that is)


RE: [Updated] Live Notifier V1.10 (formerly Convo Notifier) by Zeh on 09-04-2006 at 08:43 AM

You may have a security software that may be blocking a dll.


RE: [Updated] Live Notifier V1.10 (formerly Convo Notifier) by aunwit on 09-04-2006 at 08:48 AM

quote:
Originally posted by Dave
do other scripts you use appear in the MP!L panel (if you're using other scripts, that is)

no infact, the only script that appears there is the KeyFlasher [out of the 5 scripts i have; screenshot sender, auto status change, contact says]...i guess it does have something to do with my msn client...


edit: i just updated WLM to 812 and...nothing...same deal...

quote:
Originally posted by Zeh
You may have a security software that may be blocking a dll.

not that i know of...
RE: [Updated] Live Notifier V1.10 (formerly Convo Notifier) by Zeh on 09-04-2006 at 08:50 AM

Reinstall Plus! too. The latest version 4.01.


RE: [Updated] Live Notifier V1.10 (formerly Convo Notifier) by aunwit on 09-04-2006 at 08:56 AM

just did it...didn't work...


oh well it doesnt bother me that much anyway...i just wanted to know what caused the problem...i'll just stick with Open Notifyer...

thanks anyways...pz/


RE: [Updated] Live Notifier V1.10 (formerly Convo Notifier) by Dave on 09-04-2006 at 09:01 AM

they dont all have menus in that list, but live notifier definitely should (and so does screenshot sender 4 - is that's the version you are using?)  just check in C:\Program Files\Messenger Plus! Live\Scripts\Live Notifier that you have:
BotDKLive.dll
CNSettings.dll
Live Notifier (JScript file)
LiveNotifier.dll
ScriptInfo (XML Document)
Settings (JScript file)
Settings (XML Document)
SettingsWindow (JScript file)
SettingsWindow (XML Document)
and also a folder of translations.
got all them?


RE: RE: [Updated] Live Notifier V1.10 (formerly Convo Notifier) by aunwit on 09-04-2006 at 09:23 AM

quote:
Originally posted by Dave
they dont all have menus in that list, but live notifier definitely should (and so does screenshot sender 4 - is that's the version you are using?)  just check in C:\Program Files\Messenger Plus! Live\Scripts\Live Notifier that you have:
BotDKLive.dll
CNSettings.dll
Live Notifier (JScript file)
LiveNotifier.dll
ScriptInfo (XML Document)
Settings (JScript file)
Settings (XML Document)
SettingsWindow (JScript file)
SettingsWindow (XML Document)
and also a folder of translations.
got all them?

i have all those files, and yes i am using screenshot sender 4...maybe its an internal issue with MPL...i should probably make a thread in the support section and stop flooding this topic here...

once again, thanks for the help...
RE: [Updated] Live Notifier V1.10 (formerly Convo Notifier) by JackBurton on 09-04-2006 at 12:22 PM

I'm trying it

Really work :)


RE: RE: [Updated] Live Notifier V1.10 (formerly Convo Notifier) by taca on 09-04-2006 at 03:41 PM

quote:
Originally posted by CookieRevised
quote:
Originally posted by taca
I've looked up the code, and I can't see the bit thats responds to the event when someone adds you from his/her contact list.
Because that is not included in the script...

Everything from the packet sniffing to the displaying of toasts is done with the use of an external DLL file. You have no access to its source...

----

If you want to make your own sniffing code and react on recieved packets and do your own stuff, you're better of using Pai's ActiveX Xniff sniffer and make your own "open session notifier" as shown in that thread.

You need to alter Pai's script and add the code which checks if the data packet is an inventation (study the messenger protocol[*] to know which data packet that is and how it is constructed: the asynchronous command "ADL" if I recall correctly).

Once you have that you will need other not-so-easy-code to poll and check for the "this contact wants to add you" window and send a message to that window...

quote:
Originally posted by taca
The reason is that I want to do some script that autoaccept the invitation when someone adds you.
instead of making a script which does that, why not simply uncheck the two options in Messenger: Tools > Options > Privacy



[*] http://www.hypothetic.org/docs/msn/index.php  (site is not updated in a long time so it doesn't contain all the ins and outs of the new protocol versions, though it will give you the most detailed explanation there is to find)
http://msnpiki.msnfanatic.com/ (has some (more up to date) info too but not quite as much as on hypothetic.org)






THANK-YOU!!!!!!!!!!!!!!



RE: [Updated] Live Notifier V1.10 (formerly Convo Notifier) by the_dare on 09-04-2006 at 06:27 PM

thanks for the script! rele helpful


RE: RE: [Updated] Live Notifier V1.10 (formerly Convo Notifier) by gosrc on 09-05-2006 at 01:38 AM

when i click import script it appears a message that says the the destination folder for the script couldn't be created..

somebody help me please!! i want to install it but i can't


RE: [Updated] Live Notifier V1.10 (formerly Convo Notifier) by Dave on 09-05-2006 at 06:57 AM

have u installed other scripts before?


RE: RE: RE: [Updated] Live Notifier V1.10 (formerly Convo Notifier) by JackBurton on 09-05-2006 at 11:14 AM

quote:
Originally posted by gosrc
when i click import script it appears a message that says the the destination folder for the script couldn't be created..

somebody help me please!! i want to install it but i can't


I had the same problem, try to disabilitate the others script, restart and then retry :) byez !!
RE: [Updated] Live Notifier V1.10 (formerly Convo Notifier) by JackBurton on 09-07-2006 at 01:58 PM

shit this script crash WINLIVE :(


RE: RE: [Updated] Live Notifier V1.10 (formerly Convo Notifier) by Solar_custom on 09-08-2006 at 12:34 PM

quote:
Originally posted by JackBurton
shit this script crash WINLIVE :(


Yep mine too.
RE: [Updated] Live Notifier V1.10 (formerly Convo Notifier) by Bryan84 on 09-10-2006 at 01:13 PM

to the above 2 users, use v1.02 :)


RE: RE: [Updated] Live Notifier V1.10 (formerly Convo Notifier) by spektro on 09-12-2006 at 02:19 PM

quote:
Originally posted by Bryan84
to the above 2 users, use v1.02 :)


where to download?
RE: [Updated] Live Notifier V1.10 (formerly Convo Notifier) by Zahid™ on 09-12-2006 at 03:17 PM

quote:
Originally posted by spektro
where to download?

http://www.msgpluslive.net/scripts/browse/index.php?act=view&id=115
RE: [Updated] Live Notifier V1.10 (formerly Convo Notifier) by rainbow on 09-13-2006 at 09:57 AM

Im real sorry for asking this but i just don understand what this does.

    * Displays a toast message when someone starts a conversation with you.
    * Displays a toast message when someone adds you to his/her contact list.
    * Displays a toast message when someone removes you from his/her contact list.
    * When you already have a conversation window opened with the remote user, you won't get a toast message.
    * When you click the toast, a conversation window with the remote user will be opened.

Doesnt MSN already do this things? :S


RE: [Updated] Live Notifier V1.10 (formerly Convo Notifier) by Eddie on 09-13-2006 at 10:04 AM

quote:
Originally posted by rainbow
Im real sorry for asking this but i just don understand what this does.

    * Displays a toast message when someone starts a conversation with you.
    * Displays a toast message when someone adds you to his/her contact list.
    * Displays a toast message when someone removes you from his/her contact list.
    * When you already have a conversation window opened with the remote user, you won't get a toast message.
    * When you click the toast, a conversation window with the remote user will be opened.

Doesnt MSN already do this things? :S

Displays a toast message when someone adds you to his/her contact list.: This means that when a contact opens a conversation with you (before typing) it pops up in a small toast that they have started a conversation.
Displays a toast message when someone adds you to his/her contact list.: I guess WLM already does this in its own way though.
Displays a toast message when someone removes you from his/her contact list.: WLM doesnt do this but its quite a nifty feature actually, when someone removes you, it tells ya :)
When you already have a conversation window opened with the remote user, you won't get a toast message.: Just an added feature to make it better.
When you click the toast, a conversation window with the remote user will be opened.: Added feature aswell.

And technically its WLM - Windows Live Messenger not MSN :)

RE: [Updated] Live Notifier V1.10 (formerly Convo Notifier) by rainbow on 09-13-2006 at 10:08 AM

Oh i really liked the 1Ş and 3Ş one :)
Thanks for clearing everything up ;)


RE: [Updated] Live Notifier V1.10 (formerly Convo Notifier) by rainbow on 09-13-2006 at 07:14 PM

the conversation thing must have a bug or something..because for example, sometimes a toast message saying that certain contact has started a conversation with me, the thing is, sometimes those contacts are idle(away from theire pc's so which means its impossible..)
Is it just me?


RE: [Updated] Live Notifier V1.10 (formerly Convo Notifier) by Zeh on 09-13-2006 at 07:17 PM

It is not a bug, everytime a contact gets your display picture it uses the same connection that conversations do. And WLM sometimes tries to get other people display pictures automaticly, so it could just be someone automaticly updating the information and the picture they have on you. There is nothing that can be done about that...


RE: [Updated] Live Notifier V1.10 (formerly Convo Notifier) by rainbow on 09-13-2006 at 07:23 PM

Oh ok, but another problem came up!
WLM error, then it closes WLM....it started as soon as i installed this script...it already happende twice..
Is there any way to fixe this?


RE: [Updated] Live Notifier V1.10 (formerly Convo Notifier) by Zeh on 09-13-2006 at 07:26 PM

I think some people have been having that problem. You could try to remove the script, close messenger and the go to the scripts folder to delete live notifier folder if it wasn't fully deleted. And you could try to re-import it after that but that may not solve anything. Maybe if you tried some older version of live notifier. But I don't know how to get one at the moment :(


RE: [Updated] Live Notifier V1.10 (formerly Convo Notifier) by Dave on 09-13-2006 at 07:27 PM

quote:
Originally posted by rainbow
Oh ok, but another problem came up!
WLM error, then it closes WLM....it started as soon as i installed this script...it already happende twice..
Is there any way to fixe this?

Yeh, a lot of people are having this problem (WLM crashing).  It seems the solution is to use an older version of the script, downloaded from:
http://www.msgpluslive.net/scripts/browse/index.php?act=view&id=115

edit: i didn't see your post before, zeh, but there is the place to download it from.  That's what comes of posting at the same time... lol
RE: [Updated] Live Notifier V1.10 (formerly Convo Notifier) by François on 09-16-2006 at 08:11 AM

Is it possible (in the next release) to add a notification in the display event viewer ?

Thanks a lot for this script !


RE: [Updated] Live Notifier V1.10 (formerly Convo Notifier) by kie on 09-24-2006 at 01:30 PM

Excuse me. How i can open the setting windows?
Tell me please.
Thank you very much!


RE: [Updated] Live Notifier V1.10 (formerly Convo Notifier) by duck! on 09-24-2006 at 01:38 PM

Hi,
i downloaded this script about an  2 hours ago and it keeps on saying it has encountered an error and needs to close and its done it about 4 times in a hour but when i deleted this script it hasnt done it yet in 30mins
But it shoudnt ben doing this so..help please


RE: [Updated] Live Notifier V1.10 (formerly Convo Notifier) by jmccarroll on 09-24-2006 at 05:18 PM

quote:
Originally posted by Mentoz
Hi,
i downloaded this script about an  2 hours ago and it keeps on saying it has encountered an error and needs to close and its done it about 4 times in a hour but when i deleted this script it hasnt done it yet in 30mins
But it shoudnt ben doing this so..help please
Read a little through the thread.  Something messed up when he added some of the other notifiers.

Use Convo Notifier v1.02 instead.
RE: [Updated] Live Notifier V1.10 (formerly Convo Notifier) by Dave on 09-24-2006 at 09:21 PM

quote:
Originally posted by kie
Excuse me. How i can open the setting windows?
Tell me please.
Thank you very much!
click on the messenger plus logo at the top of your contact list page, and then go down to Live notifier, and another menu will pop out the side, and click settings.
RE: [Updated] Live Notifier V1.10 (formerly Convo Notifier) by Nucks on 09-24-2006 at 10:07 PM

Just a note, not sure if it's been said before.
Occasionally when using this you get toats from a few people that aren't even on your list. And I have the "contacts not on my list can't see me" option enabled so I know that's not supposed to happen.

Overal though it's pretty accurate, but the frequent toasts from the "non existant users" was enough for me to uninstall it.


RE: [Updated] Live Notifier V1.10 (formerly Convo Notifier) by creepy675298 on 09-25-2006 at 05:39 PM

I keep getting pop ups.
Some of these are offline. And loads aren't opening convos because they're not at the computer, and such, and it still pops up? ¬.¬


RE: RE: [Updated] Live Notifier V1.10 (formerly Convo Notifier) by Dave on 09-25-2006 at 07:14 PM

quote:
Originally posted by creepy675298
I keep getting pop ups.
Some of these are offline. And loads aren't opening convos because they're not at the computer, and such, and it still pops up? ¬.¬


could you explain the problem a little more clearly?  How can a pop-up not be at the computer?  Can you distinguish whether a pop-up is online or offline - i thought they were sort of neutral?  When you say pop-ups, do you mean toasts?  What do you mean exactly?
RE: [Updated] Live Notifier V1.10 (formerly Convo Notifier) by Spunky on 09-25-2006 at 11:43 PM

quote:
Originally posted by Dave
What do you mean exactly?

I think he means he gets toasts saying someone has opened a session with him, when they're offline. I guess this could be caused by them appearing offline as opposed to actually being offline. If this was the case, I'd use the Offline Blocker script, which should stop you from having any connection with them whilst they are "offline".
RE: [Updated] Live Notifier V1.10 (formerly Convo Notifier) by creepy675298 on 09-26-2006 at 05:41 AM

Yeh thats what I mean, i'm not sure if they are appearing offline though. And I have contacts that aren't at they're computer, and keep getting "Opened a conversation with me"..?


RE: [Updated] Live Notifier V1.10 (formerly Convo Notifier) by CookieRevised on 09-26-2006 at 06:54 AM

May I again note that ANY open convo notifier will produce MANY false positives.

The reason for this is that there is NO open convo notifier which will work correctly since it is not possible anymore (since a very long time) because of how the protocol works.

You get the false positives because of many reasons. the ONLY thing these notifiers do is showing you when a session is opened.

A session is NOT an open convo, it can be many more things. Yes, vice versa, an open convo is also an open session but there are extremely many events which will trigger open sessions.

And as I predicted some time ago, more and more sessions are opening and closing all the time, resulting in such scripts/plugins/addons like this to be less and less accurate.

And no, there is NO way to destinguish between a true open convo notification and another one, despite what some people say.

File sends, Sharing folders, display picture updates, contact info updates, etc all trigger sessions to be opened (and because the sharing folders feature requires constant polling and checking you will even get notifications around the clock for certain people).

In short: nothing can be done to fix it, as there is nothing to fix.

The only thing which needs to be change is people using and interpreting or trying to interpret these things as "open convo notifiers" as that is NOT what they will do.


RE: [Updated] Live Notifier V1.10 (formerly Convo Notifier) by pascalnouma on 09-30-2006 at 02:18 PM

How can I translate to another language?
I have already german.xml file but can not  do this?

We can I make this?

thank


RE: [Updated] Live Notifier V1.10 (formerly Convo Notifier) by rainbow on 10-02-2006 at 06:57 PM

HAHAA, i was in MSN and after a while appears a toast message saying that one of my contacts has started a conversation with me....then i realize that that contact isnt online, so i go to the offline contacts and open a chat window and ask "are you there?", after a bit he comes and says "how the hell did you know!?!?!?!?!??!".
LOLOL awsome script (Y) :D


RE: [Updated] Live Notifier V1.10 (formerly Convo Notifier) by *Moon* on 10-06-2006 at 09:50 AM

I've tried to install this script, but it doesn't work.. when a contact opens a conversation with me it appears no toast... :S
I used both Live Notifier 1.10 and Convo Notifier 1.02, but I have the same problem... am I the only one? 8-)


RE: [Updated] Live Notifier V1.10 (formerly Convo Notifier) by pheonix256 on 10-09-2006 at 03:38 AM

I found a problem while using the script, although this could be an isolated issue with just me, I thought it would be worthwhile for the developer of this script to know it.

It persist with the 'now playing' function of WLM and iTunes - when the script is activated as messenger starts, what plays on iTunes ceases to display on WLM.

However, the function works perfectly still with Windows Media Player.

The script has to be deactivated completely (not thru the script's own deactivating option) on Plus, and WLM restarted, for iTunes to show what's playing again.

I hope this problem can be worked out, as Live Notifier is my most used, and most useful, script.


RE: [Updated] Live Notifier V1.10 (formerly Convo Notifier) by Dave on 10-09-2006 at 03:53 PM

i have had the problem with iTunes not wroking with the now playing thing, but haven't tried to isolate the source of the problem, but since i am using live notifier, it could be that.  I will check now...

edit: yes, it now works with live notifier having been deactivated, and WLM restarted


RE: [Updated] Live Notifier V1.10 (formerly Convo Notifier) by Lukeyy19 on 10-09-2006 at 04:11 PM

i liked the way it still popped up if you had a conversation open, it ment that you knew if someone was about to speak, can this be an option to turn on and off?


RE: RE: [Updated] Live Notifier V1.10 (formerly Convo Notifier) by Eagle_Erwin on 10-09-2006 at 09:49 PM

quote:
Originally posted by Lukeyy19
i liked the way it still popped up if you had a conversation open, it ment that you knew if someone was about to speak, can this be an option to turn on and off?

It already is. Open the settings-window and check the second checkbox. I have the dutch version, but in English it would be called something like: "Always show notification"
RE: RE: [Updated] Live Notifier V1.10 (formerly Convo Notifier) by pheonix256 on 10-10-2006 at 08:37 AM

quote:
Originally posted by Dave
i have had the problem with iTunes not wroking with the now playing thing, but haven't tried to isolate the source of the problem, but since i am using live notifier, it could be that.  I will check now...

edit: yes, it now works with live notifier having been deactivated, and WLM restarted



Since I use this script a lot, I simply edited the script a little to this:

if (g_objSettings.ActivateOnLoad == false)
        ActivateScript();


Now, LN, doesn't load on startup automatically, and you needn't manually load and unload the script completely on Plus' settings for iTunes to work - you can use the script's own 'activate' function.

I hope this problem get's resolved though


RE: RE: RE: [Updated] Live Notifier V1.10 (formerly Convo Notifier) by Lukeyy19 on 10-10-2006 at 10:04 AM

quote:
Originally posted by Eagle_Erwin
quote:
Originally posted by Lukeyy19
i liked the way it still popped up if you had a conversation open, it ment that you knew if someone was about to speak, can this be an option to turn on and off?

It already is. Open the settings-window and check the second checkbox. I have the dutch version, but in English it would be called something like: "Always show notification"

oh ok, i didnt download it, i just read the first post where it said that it dont do that any more, will download new version now.
RE: [Updated] Live Notifier V1.10 (formerly Convo Notifier) by valor on 10-11-2006 at 10:39 AM

Hey man i think what your doing is spectacular. I'm a huge fan of ur script. But please MrHuged could u create a version where a toast pops up whenever someone talks to u please!.


RE: [Updated] Live Notifier V1.10 (formerly Convo Notifier) by Shahar on 10-12-2006 at 01:37 AM

well, sometimes it notifys me about ppl who dont really open sessions with me... do u have an idea?


RE: RE: [Updated] Live Notifier V1.10 (formerly Convo Notifier) by MicroWay on 10-12-2006 at 01:46 AM

quote:
Originally posted by Shahar
well, sometimes it notifys me about ppl who dont really open sessions with me... do u have an idea?


I'm starting to think that this hapens to me too...
:S
RE: RE: RE: [Updated] Live Notifier V1.10 (formerly Convo Notifier) by Shahar on 10-12-2006 at 02:03 AM

quote:
Originally posted by MicroWay
quote:
Originally posted by Shahar
well, sometimes it notifys me about ppl who dont really open sessions with me... do u have an idea?


I'm starting to think that this hapens to me too...
:S


ye.. i  asked a few ppl if they did clicked on me and they didnt know what im talking about LOL..
RE: RE: RE: RE: [Updated] Live Notifier V1.10 (formerly Convo Notifier) by ricknet on 10-12-2006 at 03:19 PM

quote:
Originally posted by Shahar
well, sometimes it notifys me about ppl who dont really open sessions with me... do u have an idea?


I think when WLM load the contact list, it loads the DP from some users (data transfer) so the notifier assumes someone has opened a conversation window... buuut when someone is in "Appear offline" the pop-up shows us that person is hidden ;).

I wanna sayone more thing, "Live Notifier" blocks the function "What I'm Listening To" from iTunes, but it doesn't happen with "Convo Notifier", that function works fine. So fix it plz

Thnx.. have a nice day ^^
RE: [Updated] Live Notifier V1.10 (formerly Convo Notifier) by Shahar on 10-12-2006 at 10:07 PM

well, its possible to let it support Hebrew nicknames? when someone opens a conversion with me i just see "```,,,,|,`" (gibrish)
its fixable?


RE: RE: [Updated] Live Notifier V1.10 (formerly Convo Notifier) by haido on 10-14-2006 at 05:01 PM

quote:
Originally posted by François
Is it possible (in the next release) to add a notification in the display event viewer ?

Thanks a lot for this script !


I second the idea above! Is it possible? ..to register a entry of the toast event trigger by "Live Notifier" in the event viewer?

by the way, great script!

RE: [Updated] Live Notifier V1.10 (formerly Convo Notifier) by oliverongwl on 10-16-2006 at 02:47 AM

Is it possible to log all these?


RE: [Updated] Live Notifier V1.10 (formerly Convo Notifier) by oYn on 10-19-2006 at 09:48 AM

yeah it wud be really great if it could be added to the event viewer or log it in a txt file ........thankz


RE: [Updated] Live Notifier V1.10 (formerly Convo Notifier) by MoonGoose on 10-20-2006 at 07:22 PM

It's not possible to translate the hole script... the settings... and such is not in the translation-file....


RE: RE: RE: [Updated] Live Notifier V1.10 (formerly Convo Notifier) by Dave on 10-20-2006 at 08:11 PM

quote:
Originally posted by MicroWay
quote:
Originally posted by Shahar
well, sometimes it notifys me about ppl who dont really open sessions with me... do u have an idea?


I'm starting to think that this hapens to me too...
:S


as previously stated in this thread on several occassions, it isn't possible to create a script that does this with 100% accuracy, because WLM makes a link with some contacts anyway, but it will always alert you when someone starts a convo, just sometimes it will tell you when no convo is being started.  There is no way around this, apart from perhaps making one that tells you when someone starts typing a message (would this be possible to do?) so you'll just have to live with it for now.
RE: [Updated] Live Notifier V1.10 (formerly Convo Notifier) by micolly on 10-25-2006 at 02:02 PM

maybe I'm really just an idiot, but ...
how do you get to the configuration window of this script ? all i get is the actual script when i go to
Plus! -> Preferences -> Scripts and edit the Live Notifier script...

And in there i have no idea how to modify option :( can anyone help stupid little me?

while i'm here, is there any way to log the toast messages that we get from this script ?

thx


RE: [Updated] Live Notifier V1.10 (formerly Convo Notifier) by Zahid™ on 10-25-2006 at 02:04 PM

Click on the Messenger Plus icon in the contact list and at the bottom there should be Live Notifier and go on settings.


RE: [Updated] Live Notifier V1.10 (formerly Convo Notifier) by rajvora on 10-30-2006 at 12:10 PM

i get notifications of ppl opening a conversation when they are actually offline

does it mean they r appearin offline
or does it mean that its msn retrieving some information dp etc


RE: [Updated] Live Notifier V1.10 (formerly Convo Notifier) by Dave on 10-30-2006 at 05:03 PM

i'm pretty sure that means that they are appearing offline, or perhaps they have blocked you.  Try asking them :P


RE: [Updated] Live Notifier V1.10 (formerly Convo Notifier) by Orgrim Doomhammer on 10-30-2006 at 07:57 PM

yeah, I think messenger's not able to retrieve anything if you are really offline


RE: [Updated] Live Notifier V1.10 (formerly Convo Notifier) by kryp2nyt on 11-02-2006 at 08:29 PM

Hello!

Am having a serious problem here...

The moment a toast appears about an opened convo, WLM crashes!!

Btw, there are only 3 scripts installed on my WLM, they are:

1) Mute
2) IPGet
3) Live Notifier

I've disabled Live Notifier, and NO problem appeared whatsoever with the other two, they work smoothly. So its not them anyways!

Is it Live Notifier, or is it just me? :$


RE: [Updated] Live Notifier V1.10 (formerly Convo Notifier) by Dave on 11-02-2006 at 09:09 PM

Already mentioned, but this is a ridiculously long thread, so I'll let you off.  For some people, this script causes WLM to crash.  If this is the case, you can use convo notifier which is somewhere in this thread, might be the first post.  This does pretty much the same thing, but doesn't have the unfortunate side-effect of crashing messenger :)

edit: I can't find the link to convo notifier - anyone know where it is?


RE: [Updated] Live Notifier V1.10 (formerly Convo Notifier) by kryp2nyt on 11-02-2006 at 09:46 PM

I've already got the Convo notifier from the database, and works like a charm :)

Thanks for replying Dave!


RE: [Updated] Live Notifier V1.10 (formerly Convo Notifier) by lovelim on 11-04-2006 at 09:09 AM

I created Japanese language support file for Live Notifier.

The file should be ..\\Program Files\Messenger Plus! Live\Scripts\Live Notifier\Translations\  with unzip.

You can chose Japanese.xml in setting menu.

Japanese contact name may be a garbage but it is no matter  from language support file.


RE: [Updated] Live Notifier V1.10 (formerly Convo Notifier) by ivy on 11-07-2006 at 05:30 AM

love this script. I have been waiting for it.

unfortunately it causes WLM to crash, so I got the older version as suggested. I must say the older version is more than satisfactory. The only thing I would like that is the notifications being added to the event viewer (can't be looking to the screen all the time)

good work.


RE: [Updated] Live Notifier V1.10 (formerly Convo Notifier) by Dave on 11-07-2006 at 08:36 PM

quote:
Originally posted by ivy
(can't be looking to the screen all the time)
What would you be looking at then? I didnt think other parts of the pc were that interesting...
RE: RE: [Updated] Live Notifier V1.10 (formerly Convo Notifier) by ivy on 11-08-2006 at 03:02 AM

quote:
Originally posted by Dave
What would you be looking at then? I didnt think other parts of the pc were that interesting...


real funny

some of us have lifes other than sitting across a computer and looking to the screen constantly.. oh and have you heard about dsl and cable internet? the stuff that allows you to be constantly connected to the internet but not necessarily meaning to sit across the computer 24/7 ?
RE: [Updated] Live Notifier V1.10 (formerly Convo Notifier) by kryp2nyt on 11-08-2006 at 10:53 AM

lool...

So is there any hopes of a logger? :D


RE: RE: RE: [Updated] Live Notifier V1.10 (formerly Convo Notifier) by Dave on 11-08-2006 at 05:41 PM

quote:
Originally posted by ivyoh and have you heard about dsl and cable internet? the stuff that allows you to be constantly connected to the internet but not necessarily meaning to sit across the computer 24/7 ?

yes, but if you aren't using the pc, then surely advanced warning of someone starting a convo with you wouldn't be that useful?  Wouldn't you find out what they said to you when you returned to the computer?
RE: [Updated] Live Notifier V1.10 (formerly Convo Notifier) by chairmenbored on 11-08-2006 at 06:50 PM

hi..im new here..is there any possible way of making the 'convo notifier' leaves - the chat window - open when a contect clicks on you and also  notifies you when the contact closes the chat window, instead of givin the  toast.
so this way i will know who clicked on me even when im not around the computer..


RE: [Updated] Live Notifier V1.10 (formerly Convo Notifier) by Dave on 11-08-2006 at 06:58 PM

logging the event would do that - that is what we're talking about at the moment.  i still don't see why you'd want to know if someone started a convo with you long after the event though...


RE: [Updated] Live Notifier V1.10 (formerly Convo Notifier) by CookieRevised on 11-08-2006 at 07:17 PM

quote:
Originally posted by kryp2nyt
So is there any hopes of a logger? :D
There are more scripts than this one which notify you of sessions being opened. IIRC, this script (Live Notifier) is even the only one which does not log into the events window. Search the forum for the other scripts.

quote:
Originally posted by Dave
yes, but if you aren't using the pc, then surely advanced warning of someone starting a convo with you wouldn't be that useful?  Wouldn't you find out what they said to you when you returned to the computer?
The point is that you see who started a convo with you but didn't sent something while you were away from the PC...obviously

* CookieRevised slaps Dave :p



PS: such script are not reliable at all to show who openend a conversation with you because that is simply not possible anymore. All such scripts do is showing when a session is opened. A session can be much more things than a conversation being started (and in practice, most notifications of open sessions are not convos being started).
RE: [Updated] Live Notifier V1.10 (formerly Convo Notifier) by kryp2nyt on 11-08-2006 at 07:21 PM

You're missing something here.

Convo notifier somehow can sniff out people who are appearing offline :D

A logger will be useful to see who actually appeared offline despite the fact we are not on our PC's.

Don't you agree?

NOTE: sometimes we are even too busy to look at the toasts. So let them be logged for later view.


RE: [Updated] Live Notifier V1.10 (formerly Convo Notifier) by CookieRevised on 11-08-2006 at 07:38 PM

quote:
Originally posted by kryp2nyt
You're missing something here.

Convo notifier somehow can sniff out people who are appearing offline :D

A logger will be useful to see who actually appeared offline despite the fact we are not on our PC's.

Don't you agree?

NOTE: sometimes we are even too busy to look at the toasts. So let them be logged for later view.
There is not a single script or tool which can say who is appearing offline and who's not!!

The only thing which may come close is a tool or script which can say for certain if someone is appearing offline (and note that there is a difference between this and the first paragraph!!!).

With the use of a sniffer you can be notified if a certain contact is "appearing offline" instead of being "offline". But that, in _no_ way!, means that the other offline contacts are truely "offline"; some of them can also be "appearing offline".

You can not assume that someone is truely offline because you didn't recieved a notification. This is not possible...



RE: [Updated] Live Notifier V1.10 (formerly Convo Notifier) by Dave on 11-08-2006 at 08:03 PM

quote:
Originally posted by CookieRevised
The point is that you see who started a convo with you but didn't sent something while you were away from the PC...obviously

* CookieRevised slaps Dave :p


I don't think so - why would I care if someone opened a convo with me and then decided not to say anything?  Is the idea that i go back 5 hours later and say, 'Ha, you opened a window with me 5 hours ago.'  Do people have the time and effort to do this?

quote:
Originally posted by kryp2nyt

A logger will be useful to see who actually appeared offline despite the fact we are not on our PC's.

Don't you agree?

NOTE: sometimes we are even too busy to look at the toasts. So let them be logged for later view.

No, I don't agree.  What possible use could I have for this information other than to make a similar comment to the one above: '3 hrs ago you were appearing offline, weren't you?'  As for being to busy to look at the toasts, do people really trawl through their event logs periodically, finding out if people were, at some point in the recent past, appearing offline.  I don't see how this is any quicker than viewing your toasts.  More to the point, I still don't really see why you'd care.  If they are appearing offline, then they don't want to talk to people, and while there would be some merit in a script that tells you when they are appearing offline (so you can talk to them anyway), informing you of this several hours after the event seems slightly irrelevant.
RE: [Updated] Live Notifier V1.10 (formerly Convo Notifier) by ivy on 11-09-2006 at 05:33 AM

Well Dave I believe that the actual idea behind is "notifiers" is not getting notified a few seconds before someone sends you a message, you'll see it anyway. Actually this kind of notifier is useless. what are you going to do with such a notification? are you going to say "aa my friend is going to send me a message in 5 seconds so I'll better get into typing position". Of course not.

The main logic is to see that who is checking you out. we have nicknames, personal messages, display pictures, contact cards, msn spaces and we change them from time to time. but which of our friends are checking us out? see looking to these things all cause "sessions" and they cause notifications (even if they may be wrong sometimes) and that's why a lot people love this script and alot of people ask for a logger.

let me give you an example. let's say that you have your friends on myspace. wouldn't you you check their profiles from time to time to see if they have added new pictures etc? when you login to the myspace it says "this profile has been viewed .... times". assume that there is a girl that you like. wouldn't you want to know whether or not that girl is coming to your profile page?

it is the same logic here, we just want to know who is checking us out, I don't think that anybody goes and say "hey you opened a window with me", I personally never confront people, I never tell anybody that I have such a script. It is for my own personal curiosity for the above reasons that I stated and I would really like this script to have a event logger of some sort.


RE: [Updated] Live Notifier V1.10 (formerly Convo Notifier) by Dave on 11-09-2006 at 06:06 PM

hmmm, i see your point.  But given the lack of accuracy of the notifier, i wouldn't have thought that this is particularly useful.


RE: [Updated] Live Notifier V1.10 (formerly Convo Notifier) by kryp2nyt on 11-11-2006 at 08:17 AM

Guys :D

Who cares about notifying? :D

We are saying that it notifies you with a toast message, EVEN when the person is appearing offline ;)

This is kinda cool y'know :P


RE: [Updated] Live Notifier V1.10 (formerly Convo Notifier) by ~*McoreD*~ on 11-12-2006 at 12:29 PM

Great script! Can this script be extended to support

Displays a toast message when someone closes a conversation with you?


RE: [Updated] Live Notifier V1.10 (formerly Convo Notifier) by elektra on 11-12-2006 at 12:34 PM

quote:
Originally posted by ~*McoreD*~
Great script! Can this script be extended to support

Displays a toast message when someone closes a conversation with you?

That cannot be possible to make since wlm closes the connnection when it is closed so we do not know when the convo is closed =/. Or something like that.
But simple answer: No i cannot be done :) Hope it helps.
RE: [Updated] Live Notifier V1.10 (formerly Convo Notifier) by ~*McoreD*~ on 11-12-2006 at 11:21 PM

Thanks quacky, that helps with the logical explanation. Appreciate it. :)


RE: [Updated] Live Notifier V1.10 (formerly Convo Notifier) by herbert7890 on 11-14-2006 at 04:31 PM

i deleted  my pc and now  i tried  reinstalling  this  script  and  i get  an error  saying: An exception has  ocurred! Acess violation at adress 06363d65 in Module 'BotDKLive.dll'        plz  help me  with this,  its  my fav script, and now  i cant  install it :(


RE: [Updated] Live Notifier V1.10 (formerly Convo Notifier) by pandonny on 11-15-2006 at 11:05 AM

here is Chinese-Simplified translation :)


RE: [Updated] Live Notifier V1.10 (formerly Convo Notifier) by *HotHoney* on 11-23-2006 at 04:23 AM

Hello,
the script works,exept some bugs.
On certain contacts is opening notifications continuosly (I think it's impossible that that person is checking me out all day long).
Then,since I've installed it very often a pop up notification appears telling me there has been a problem with the messenger and the program is going to be closed. This happens about 3 times in a hour.
More,tonight when I was writing to my contacts messagges of just emoticons,it disabled me the "send" button,on the messenger window and on the pc both,everything else was working but this.
so i had to close the convo window and open it once more -.-
I don't know if I'm the only one who encurred these problems,but I though this would help you to ameliore the script...


RE: [Updated] Live Notifier V1.10 (formerly Convo Notifier) by jmccarroll on 11-23-2006 at 06:15 AM

Throughout this thread it has been documented that v1.10 makes WLM crash.  You need to go to the scripts database and search for Convo Notifier v0.2 for the latest "working version"


RE: RE: [Updated] Live Notifier V1.10 (formerly Convo Notifier) by CookieRevised on 11-23-2006 at 07:34 AM

quote:
Originally posted by *HotHoney*
Hello,
the script works,exept some bugs.
On certain contacts is opening notifications continuosly (I think it's impossible that that person is checking me out all day long).
That is not a bug and simply how such notifiers work.

Also, such notifiers do not just notify you when a contact is opening a conversation window with you. But they notify you when a session is opened.

A session is something completely different than opening a conversation. It can include a conversation being created or someone clicking on your name to see your contact card, but mostly a session can mean a whole lot more things than a contact checking you out.

Also, the Messenger of your contact can trigger such notifications on its own, the contact doesn't even need to be on his PC at that time.

Do not trust such notifiers for things like "the contact has openend a conversation with you" or even "the contact is checking you out", they give more false alarms than correct alarms and there is no way to determine which is a false alarm or which is a correct alarm (eventhough some people claim they can, it is in reality impossible).

;)
RE: [Updated] Live Notifier V1.10 (formerly Convo Notifier) by *HotHoney* on 11-23-2006 at 08:12 AM

thank you!


RE: [Updated] Live Notifier V1.10 (formerly Convo Notifier) by loub on 11-23-2006 at 11:58 AM

I don't know if someone reported this or not (too much pages to go through 8-)), but I have a bug.

From time to time, I have some program DW20.exe that requires access to internet (through my firewall). My answer (yes or no) doens't matter: MSN crashes after that.

When I removed the script, the error stopped...
Might not be related, but it's very likely that it is...

And, I think I have the last version of the script as mine is Live Notifier.

By the way, how can I know the version of a script I'm using?


RE: [Updated] Live Notifier V1.10 (formerly Convo Notifier) by galgor on 11-23-2006 at 03:08 PM

Hey all!  First post!

Love this script!  But would it be possible to make a toast for when someone starts typing a message to you?


RE: [Updated] Live Notifier V1.10 (formerly Convo Notifier) by Kenji on 11-23-2006 at 03:12 PM

quote:
Originally posted by galgor
Hey all!  First post!

Love this script!  But would it be possible to make a toast for when someone starts typing a message to you?
THere is a script that does that, see this post: http://shoutbox.menthix.net/showthread.php?tid=67...d=745307#pid745307

or download it here: http://shoutbox.menthix.net/attachment.php?pid=745307
RE: RE: [Updated] Live Notifier V1.10 (formerly Convo Notifier) by galgor on 11-23-2006 at 04:26 PM

quote:
Originally posted by Dazmatic
quote:
Originally posted by galgor
Hey all!  First post!

Love this script!  But would it be possible to make a toast for when someone starts typing a message to you?
THere is a script that does that, see this post: http://shoutbox.menthix.net/showthread.php?tid=67...d=745307#pid745307

or download it here: http://shoutbox.menthix.net/attachment.php?pid=745307


Thanks for that!!

It seems to have a life of its own though..seemingly telling me when other peoples contacts are typing to them..
RE: [Updated] Live Notifier V1.10 (formerly Convo Notifier) by Dave on 11-23-2006 at 05:37 PM

quote:
Originally posted by jmccarroll
You need to go to the scripts database and search for Convo Notifier v0.2 for the latest "working version"
You say that, but i am using live notifier, not convo notifier, and i am not having any problems.  Messenger has only crashed once recently, which may or may not have been because of live notifier, but other than that, live notifier works fine for me.
RE: [Updated] Live Notifier V1.10 (formerly Convo Notifier) by capitocapito on 11-27-2006 at 03:22 AM

Does this fix the problem where the program would notify even when all the contact did was view our display picture?


RE: [Updated] Live Notifier V1.10 (formerly Convo Notifier) by linx05 on 11-27-2006 at 07:35 AM

There is no way to distinguish between downloading a display picture and opening a session. Read through this thread for more information on this.


RE: [Updated] Live Notifier V1.10 (formerly Convo Notifier) by wally_da1 on 12-01-2006 at 06:45 AM

hey mrhuge  i'v been wanting to post this for a while now, this script is great but every time i use it, it will work but every now and then it will come up with the windows error message saying that a problem has occured in windows live messenger and must close . i made sure that it was the Live! notifier that is doing this before i done this post. can this please be fixed??:(:(


RE: [Updated] Live Notifier V1.10 (formerly Convo Notifier) by kryp2nyt on 12-01-2006 at 07:14 AM

As stated earlier, use Convo Notifier instead.

They are basically the same thing, until the script writer fixes this problem: UST CONVO!

Hope this helps :)


RE: [Updated] Live Notifier V1.10 (formerly Convo Notifier) by wally_da1 on 12-01-2006 at 08:00 AM

thank you very much i hope this proplem gets fixed AND QUIK :)


RE: [Updated] Live Notifier V1.10 (formerly Convo Notifier) by stevenxi on 12-02-2006 at 09:24 PM

Thank u 4 ur script.
But it seems not support chinese nick name...


RE: [Updated] Live Notifier V1.10 (formerly Convo Notifier) by Q8Bond007 on 12-02-2006 at 10:05 PM

quote:
Originally posted by stevenxi
Thank u 4 ur script.
But it seems not support chinese nick name...

It doesn't support Arabic either.

Arabic
RE: [Updated] Live Notifier V1.10 (formerly Convo Notifier) by Tanya21 on 12-02-2006 at 11:15 PM

firstly wow, what a great site! i downloaded the live notifier v1.10 script( what a fab idea), but i cant seem to get it to work. im not sure im even doing it right...i downloaded the file, and then in plus just directly imported it to the scripts bit  im rubbish with all this stuff can anyone help me???? will be much appreciated xx


RE: [Updated] Live Notifier V1.10 (formerly Convo Notifier) by Wally on 12-03-2006 at 09:58 AM

Hey Tanya well when you installed the script evertime some 1 opens a convo with you it will warn you in the corner by what ur last post says i think u installed it right:)


RE: [Updated] Live Notifier V1.10 (formerly Convo Notifier) by Tanya21 on 12-03-2006 at 04:53 PM

which is exactly why i think ive done something wrong...no notifications come up:( ive checked the always show notifications box too...


RE: [Updated] Live Notifier V1.10 (formerly Convo Notifier) by Dave on 12-04-2006 at 09:14 AM

if you click on the messenger plus logo at the top of the contacts list page (you follow me?) and then look down the menu that pops up, you should see 'Live Notifier' near the bottom.  Do you see this?


RE: [Updated] Live Notifier V1.10 (formerly Convo Notifier) by Eddie on 12-04-2006 at 11:13 AM

quote:
Originally posted by Dave
if you click on the messenger plus logo at the top of the contacts list page (you follow me?) and then look down the menu that pops up, you should see 'Live Notifier' near the bottom.  Do you see this?
If you do click "enable notifier", or something similar and it will activate :D
RE: [Updated] Live Notifier V1.10 (formerly Convo Notifier) by atkinS on 12-04-2006 at 11:32 AM

I suggest that can log down all recond....


RE: [Updated] Live Notifier V1.10 (formerly Convo Notifier) by chronic student on 12-04-2006 at 07:20 PM

hi everyone i wanna ask you a question
(i couldnt read all the pages so i dont know if my question was answered before)

this "live notifier" can be used in Messenger Plus! Live 4.1?

now im using MP! and added stuffplug so i have convo notifier. in addition, as you know, stuffplug provides the feature of showing display pictures bigger. im afraid of losing this features (convo notifier and bigger DP) by installing MP!L 4.10.

what should i do? can i add stuffplug to MP!L 4.10 or "live notifier" is just enough for what i want?
thanks a lot.


RE: [Updated] Live Notifier V1.10 (formerly Convo Notifier) by Dave on 12-04-2006 at 07:38 PM

yes, live notifier can be used with plus! 4.1


RE: [Updated] Live Notifier V1.10 (formerly Convo Notifier) by chronic student on 12-04-2006 at 07:47 PM

oopps sorry.. ive just read that MP!L 4.10 is entirely compatible with Windows Live Messenger 8.1 but i dont like WLM thats why i dont need to use "live notifier", i have msn messenger 7.5 and MP! 3 and stuffplug - so i think that's enough for me :) am i wright :D


RE: [Updated] Live Notifier V1.10 (formerly Convo Notifier) by Tanya21 on 12-05-2006 at 12:19 AM

thanks guys, its working:))) ciao!


RE: [Updated] Live Notifier V1.10 (formerly Convo Notifier) by CookieRevised on 12-05-2006 at 12:38 AM

chronic student and Tanya21,

What this and every other openconvo notifier does (including the one in StuffPlug, chronicstudent) is showing you a notification when someone opens a SESSION with you. This is certainly not the same as an OPEN CONVO notification.

Showing only opened convo notifications is since a very long time impossible.

A session is opened not only when a contact opens a conversation with you but also whenever the contact looks at your contact card, when he looks at your display picture for the first time, etc. But they are also triggered by Messenger itself, the contact doesn't even need to be at his PC on that time.

It is impossible to see the difference between all these notifications and thus it is impossible for a program or tool to show you only "open convo" notifications. It is simply not possible...

Such tools and programs like these give you only a false notion that the contact has opened a convo with you or that he is "checking you out".

Dispite what some people say it is not possible to filter out the correct notification from the false ones.


RE: [Updated] Live Notifier V1.10 (formerly Convo Notifier) by chronic student on 12-05-2006 at 06:23 PM

thanks CookieRevised yes its actually not a convo notifier.
i just wanted to know should i upgrade my msn messenger or not. but my msn messenger is fine. thanks again :)


RE: [Updated] Live Notifier V1.10 (formerly Convo Notifier) by Dave on 12-05-2006 at 07:15 PM

quote:
Originally posted by chronic student

i just wanted to know should i upgrade my msn messenger or not. but my msn messenger is fine. thanks again :)
if you mean upgrade to windows live, then yes, i would, but upgrading to v.8.1 BETA isn't really worth it.

Also, if anyone is bored of the random notifications that live notifier gives you, you may want to consider a script called Notifier: Typing, which tells you when someone starts typing you a message, not just opens a session. (link is somewhere on the forums website i think, i'll be back with the thread url)
RE: [Updated] Live Notifier V1.10 (formerly Convo Notifier) by Tanya21 on 12-06-2006 at 12:50 AM

is there a script or something to prevent people with all these scripts from actually detecting you? does something like this exist or is it not possible?


RE: [Updated] Live Notifier V1.10 (formerly Convo Notifier) by Spunky on 12-06-2006 at 03:59 AM

quote:
Originally posted by Dave
Also, if anyone is bored of the random notifications that live notifier gives you, you may want to consider a script called Notifier: Typing, which tells you when someone starts typing you a message, not just opens a session. (link is somewhere on the forums website i think, i'll be back with the thread url)

CookieRevised's Reply to [request]Key press notifier - Possibly my favourite script ever

quote:
Originally posted by Tanya21
is there a script or something to prevent people with all these scripts from actually detecting you? does something like this exist or is it not possible?

I doubt it is easy/possible to do. There isn't anything they can do with a notification though (and with all the false negatives it makes it even more obscure)

RE: [Updated] Live Notifier V1.10 (formerly Convo Notifier) by Dave on 12-06-2006 at 06:25 PM

quote:
Originally posted by Tanya21
is there a script or something to prevent people with all these scripts from actually detecting you? does something like this exist or is it not possible?
i wouldn't have thought that would be possible - the whole point of msn is that it allows your computer to contact others and vice versa.  The only way to stop other people getting notifications from you would be to not use msn i think.
RE: [Updated] Live Notifier V1.10 (formerly Convo Notifier) by Cloud on 12-09-2006 at 04:46 AM

the script works but its not very accurate... i tested it by opening 2 messengers and clicking my own name... and i dont even get a notification... i only get one when i send the the message... back when i was using stuffplug with msn 7.5... it worked perfectly...


RE: [Updated] Live Notifier V1.10 (formerly Convo Notifier) by AmbulanceX on 12-12-2006 at 04:30 PM

yes cloud, the days of 100% correctness are now imposable, but its better than nothing x100


RE: [Updated] Live Notifier V1.10 (formerly Convo Notifier) by jenjento on 12-16-2006 at 03:22 AM

I seem to be having errors while importing the files. How can I solve it?
It worked before but somehow it stopped functioning.


RE: [Updated] Live Notifier V1.10 (formerly Convo Notifier) by dekline on 12-23-2006 at 09:56 AM

Hey guys :>

I have a problem with the script ... everytime I activated the script it shows me an error ... then windows live messenger stop working ...


RE: [Updated] Live Notifier V1.10 (formerly Convo Notifier) by Wally on 12-23-2006 at 10:00 AM

yeah that problems been around for a while you should try using http://shoutbox.menthix.net/showthread.php?tid=64026


RE: [Updated] Live Notifier V1.10 (formerly Convo Notifier) by prettyseven on 12-27-2006 at 12:59 PM

Chinese Simplified Translation


RE: [Updated] Live Notifier V1.10 (formerly Convo Notifier) by logaen on 12-29-2006 at 01:29 PM

my favourite script ever! ;)


RE: [Updated] Live Notifier V1.10 (formerly Convo Notifier) by call_exodia on 01-02-2007 at 02:05 PM

it would be better if there is a log/history file generated (like conversation history) and also can play sound..
please... can u make that?

Anyway... great script... ;) my favourite so far...thanks


RE: [Updated] Live Notifier V1.10 (formerly Convo Notifier) by Dave on 01-02-2007 at 05:36 PM

would it be a good idea to star a new thread about this script, cos then people wouldn't need to ask questions that have already been asked, because there wouldn't be so many pages to trawl through.  Anyone think this might be a good idea?


RE: [Updated] Live Notifier V1.10 (formerly Convo Notifier) by Matti on 01-02-2007 at 05:43 PM

quote:
Originally posted by call_exodia
it would be better if there is a log/history file generated (like conversation history) and also can play sound..
please... can u make that?
I agree with the logging, why don't you make a function which creates the toast and send that to the DLL? I think that would make it much more interesting (if you don't mind people customize your script of course...)
RE: [Updated] Live Notifier V1.10 (formerly Convo Notifier) by warmth on 01-02-2007 at 05:54 PM

How about been notified when someone close the conversation and a more specific settings where you can select what you want to be notified???

I wanna report a bug to... see my attached pic...

My info is this:

StuffPlug Version 3.0.249
MsgPlus Version 4.11.0.254
Windows Live Messenger Version 8.1.0168.00
Operating System Windows XP

I think there is a problem with special characters to be displayed on toast windows...


RE: [Updated] Live Notifier V1.10 (formerly Convo Notifier) by trini on 01-02-2007 at 07:16 PM

Not working with Vista :(

[Image: livenotifierwp4.jpg]


RE: [Updated] Live Notifier V1.10 (formerly Convo Notifier) by jackburton21 on 01-25-2007 at 07:31 PM

i have the latest one version of Windows Live Messenger :)

i have this patch, but sometimes it block everything and i must restart Windows Live Messenger

Is there a version of Windows Live Messenger that works 100% with this patch ?!?

can i create a history of the pop-ups if i don't stay at the keyboard ?!?

THANK U MEN !!   :)(Y)


RE: [Updated] Live Notifier V1.10 (formerly Convo Notifier) by Dave on 01-25-2007 at 08:03 PM

try using convo notifier


RE: [Updated] Live Notifier V1.10 (formerly Convo Notifier) by vikke on 01-25-2007 at 08:29 PM

I got crashes, about one each hour :(.
Access Voilation.


RE: RE: [Updated] Live Notifier V1.10 (formerly Convo Notifier) by jackburton21 on 01-25-2007 at 10:37 PM

quote:
Originally posted by Dave
try using convo notifier


but THIS IS convo notifier !! :D
RE: RE: RE: [Updated] Live Notifier V1.10 (formerly Convo Notifier) by Eagle_Erwin on 01-25-2007 at 11:22 PM

quote:
Originally posted by jackburton21
quote:
Originally posted by Dave
try using convo notifier


but THIS IS convo notifier !! :D

I guess you use Live Notifier, try Convo notifier instead
RE: [Updated] Live Notifier V1.10 (formerly Convo Notifier) by Wally on 01-25-2007 at 11:51 PM

this convo notifier works the same as this one maybe better i have had  no problems with it and seems to work all the time so try this  http://shoutbox.menthix.net/showthread.php?tid=64026


RE: RE: RE: RE: [Updated] Live Notifier V1.10 (formerly Convo Notifier) by jackburton21 on 01-26-2007 at 09:49 AM

quote:
Originally posted by Eagle_Erwin
quote:
Originally posted by jackburton21
quote:
Originally posted by Dave
try using convo notifier


but THIS IS convo notifier !! :D

I guess you use Live Notifier, try Convo notifier instead


for CONVO NOTIFIER u mean this ? : http://www.msgpluslive.net/scripts/browse/index.php?act=view&id=115

link me convo notifier pls  ^^
RE: [Updated] Live Notifier V1.10 (formerly Convo Notifier) by Eagle_Erwin on 01-26-2007 at 10:41 AM

quote:
Originally posted by jackburton21
for CONVO NOTIFIER u mean this ? : http://www.msgpluslive.net/scripts/browse/index.php?act=view&id=115

link me convo notifier pls  ^^
Yes, that's the one I mean
RE: [Updated] Live Notifier V1.10 (formerly Convo Notifier) by Wally on 01-26-2007 at 11:07 AM

your completely ignoring the link i posted theres no need for convo notifier its just a downgrade from this one i highly recommend using  http://shoutbox.menthix.net/showthread.php?tid=64026 because its a different one and there has been no problems so far :)


RE: RE: [Updated] Live Notifier V1.10 (formerly Convo Notifier) by jackburton21 on 01-26-2007 at 11:15 AM

quote:
Originally posted by wally lebo rambo
your completely ignoring the link i posted theres no need for convo notifier its just a downgrade from this one i highly recommend using  http://shoutbox.menthix.net/showthread.php?tid=64026 because its a different one and there has been no problems so far :)


i'm not ignoring you, i have downloaded both of them  ^^

i'll trying soon BOTH !!
THANK U MAN !!
RE: [Updated] Live Notifier V1.10 (formerly Convo Notifier) by Eagle_Erwin on 01-26-2007 at 11:18 AM

quote:
Originally posted by wally lebo rambo
your completely ignoring the link i posted theres no need for convo notifier its just a downgrade from this one i highly recommend using  http://shoutbox.menthix.net/showthread.php?tid=64026 because its a different one and there has been no problems so far :)
I don't use that one, because it doesn't support wireless networks, and I use wireless ;)
RE: [Updated] Live Notifier V1.10 (formerly Convo Notifier) by Wally on 01-26-2007 at 11:19 AM

no problem :) honestly the reason why this ones good first of all, live notifier has bugs and glitches and convo notifier is a downgrade of live notifier so your really just getting an older version of live notifier this one works perfectly id say since iv tested it in different ways, works great (y)

quote:
Originally posted by Eagle_Erwin
I don't use that one, because it doesn't support wireless networks, and I use wireless ;)



it does sometimes give it a go no one has posted that it doesnt work with there wireless and i have tested it with mine still works for my wireless the thread just says might not work with wireless


also read the second and third posts in that thread ;)
RE: RE: RE: [Updated] Live Notifier V1.10 (formerly Convo Notifier) by jackburton21 on 01-26-2007 at 05:25 PM

quote:
Originally posted by jackburton21
quote:
Originally posted by wally lebo rambo
your completely ignoring the link i posted theres no need for convo notifier its just a downgrade from this one i highly recommend using  http://shoutbox.menthix.net/showthread.php?tid=64026 because its a different one and there has been no problems so far :)


i'm not ignoring you, i have downloaded both of them  ^^

i'll trying soon BOTH !!
THANK U MAN !!


Hey maaaaaaan
but u rulez ^^

IT'S WORK AT 100%  (( it seems uh :D ))

G        R        E         A         T               !!
RE: [Updated] Live Notifier V1.10 (formerly Convo Notifier) by can16358p on 02-08-2007 at 01:20 PM

I've installed Vista and it doesn't work :(
I tried both Convo and Live notifiers, same error mesaage in both:
While first trying to install the script, I get this error message:
---------------------------
An error occurred while importing the script files.
---------------------------

So I can't install it.
//and it happens only on notifier, I've installed other scripts with no problem. Quite weird.


RE: [Updated] Live Notifier V1.10 (formerly Convo Notifier) by Wally on 02-09-2007 at 07:48 AM

did you try installing this one http://shoutbox.menthix.net/showthread.php?tid=64026   ;)


RE: [Updated] Live Notifier V1.10 (formerly Convo Notifier) by colmania on 02-27-2007 at 05:11 PM

Swedish XML. Thank you very much for this script. It rocks!


RE: [Updated] Live Notifier V1.10 (formerly Convo Notifier) by al2002 on 03-06-2007 at 07:22 PM

I've been trying the latest "Live Notifier" but after a while of it running, WLM will crash. This doesn't happen when using the older "Convo Notifier".

Any ideas?


RE: [Updated] Live Notifier V1.10 (formerly Convo Notifier) by Dave on 03-06-2007 at 07:53 PM

As mentioned somewhere in the previous 8 pages of posts, some people find that using live notifier makes their messenger crash, but using convo notifier is ok.  No-one knows what the problem is, bu it seems convo notifier is the solution


RE: RE: [Updated] Live Notifier V1.10 (formerly Convo Notifier) by Wally on 03-06-2007 at 10:53 PM

quote:
Originally posted by wally
did you try installing this one http://shoutbox.menthix.net/showthread.php?tid=64026   ;)

 

don't use convo notifier i recommend using the one in the link i posted a while back the only thing this doesnt work on is Windows vista
RE: [Updated] Live Notifier V1.10 (formerly Convo Notifier) by dfp on 03-20-2007 at 09:25 AM

any chance of getting this to work in vista? Messenger just crashes with this on vista was fine in xp


RE: [Updated] Live Notifier V1.10 (formerly Convo Notifier) by namooth on 03-24-2007 at 10:28 PM

my hebrew toasts are all in gibrish.. any way to fix that?

any way, hebrew translation :)


RE: [Updated] Live Notifier V1.10 (formerly Convo Notifier) by namooth on 03-30-2007 at 08:02 PM

it keeps crushing on me, any updates?


RE: [Updated] Live Notifier V1.10 (formerly Convo Notifier) by Dave on 03-30-2007 at 09:29 PM

which one - live notifier or convo notifier?


RE: [Updated] Live Notifier V1.10 (formerly Convo Notifier) by Eddie on 03-31-2007 at 06:27 AM

quote:
Originally posted by Dave
which one - live notifier or convo notifier?
Live Notifier works better, but no Notifier for someone opening a convo is reliable. This works well though.
RE: RE: [Updated] Live Notifier V1.10 (formerly Convo Notifier) by namooth on 03-31-2007 at 08:06 AM

quote:
Originally posted by Dave
which one - live notifier or convo notifier?


convo crushes, i've tried live notifier but i can't get it to work, it doesn't alert on any open windows. (tried it with multiple msn)
RE: [Updated] Live Notifier V1.10 (formerly Convo Notifier) by dfp on 04-04-2007 at 09:07 AM

Yeah I can't get either to function at all in vista, Messenger crashes completely when you enable the script


RE: [Updated] Live Notifier V1.10 (formerly Convo Notifier) by Vinxi on 04-24-2007 at 11:37 PM

Hi guys,

is it possible to log opened session? 8-)

Thanks ;)


RE: RE: [Updated] Live Notifier V1.10 (formerly Convo Notifier) by trini on 04-27-2007 at 10:21 AM

quote:
Originally posted by dfp
Yeah I can't get either to function at all in vista, Messenger crashes completely when you enable the script

Try to disable UAC and DEP ,I got live notifier working on Vista :)
RE: [Updated] Live Notifier V1.10 (formerly Convo Notifier) by singying304 on 05-06-2007 at 04:10 AM

toast message can't display chinese...


RE: [Updated] Live Notifier V1.10 (formerly Convo Notifier) by warmth on 05-06-2007 at 03:48 PM

I already have reported it... with all unicode chars... but nothing get solved :(...
http://shoutbox.menthix.net/showthread.php?tid=64...d=772557#pid772557


RE: [Updated] Live Notifier V1.10 (formerly Convo Notifier) by Pyroteq on 05-07-2007 at 10:12 AM

I loved the features this had to offer, unfortunatly ive had a few disagreements with this script.

It seemed to display toasts frequently for some, and not at all for others.
The script would randomly cause Messenger to crash (seemingly with no pattern) - This is the reason i have stopped using this script.
When clicking a toast to open a conversation with a contact, either nothing would happen or messenger would crash.


RE: [Updated] Live Notifier V1.10 (formerly Convo Notifier) by CookieRevised on 05-07-2007 at 10:18 AM

quote:
Originally posted by Pyroteq
It seemed to display toasts frequently for some, and not at all for others.
read:
CookieRevised's reply to Question regarding a "close msg window logger"

RE: [Updated] Live Notifier V1.10 (formerly Convo Notifier) by fusionfake on 05-13-2007 at 10:28 AM

is there a way to log the people opening sessions ?


RE: [Updated] Live Notifier V1.10 (formerly Convo Notifier) by Bryan84 on 05-14-2007 at 12:30 PM

Seems like this is not working anymore for my LIVE Messenger .. strange ... for vista.


RE: RE: RE: [Updated] Live Notifier V1.10 (formerly Convo Notifier) by Bryan84 on 05-14-2007 at 12:33 PM

quote:
Originally posted by trini
quote:
Originally posted by dfp
Yeah I can't get either to function at all in vista, Messenger crashes completely when you enable the script

Try to disable UAC and DEP ,I got live notifier working on Vista :)


I have it disable but cannot get it working still.
RE: [Updated] Live Notifier V1.10 (formerly Convo Notifier) by al2002 on 05-20-2007 at 02:13 PM

Does anyone know why the convo notifier/live notifier works in my XP x64 edition but not on Vista?


RE: [Updated] Live Notifier V1.10 (formerly Convo Notifier) by Bryan84 on 05-20-2007 at 03:46 PM

Yes it doesn't work for me ... Vista Home Premium ..


RE: [Updated] Live Notifier V1.10 (formerly Convo Notifier) by squaloxp on 05-21-2007 at 09:06 AM

sorry for my english but I'm a italian boy ;)

do you know like making to work live notifier on windows vista? ..(business)

thanks for the answers ;)

squaloxp (H)


RE: [Updated] Live Notifier V1.10 (formerly Convo Notifier) by al2002 on 05-21-2007 at 07:14 PM

I thought it might be something to do with Vista's UAC so I ran WLM 8.1 as administrator (right click) hoping it would solve the issue, but it hasn't


RE: [Updated] Live Notifier V1.10 (formerly Convo Notifier) by trini on 05-21-2007 at 11:03 PM

Well, I just uninstalled all other scripts, then installed Live Notifier as only script, and it is working for me just fine. At first I wasn't able to install at all, WLM did crash. Now I reinstalled also other scripts ,I do get alerts when someone is opening convo, so it is working.
And Bryan84, did you disabled just UAC ,or also DEP?
Copy-paste this to command prompt window:
bcdedit.exe /set {current} nx AlwaysOff ,restart your computer, then try again.


RE: [Updated] Live Notifier V1.10 (formerly Convo Notifier) by warmth on 05-21-2007 at 11:07 PM

quote:
Originally posted by al2002
I thought it might be something to do with Vista's UAC so I ran WLM 8.1 as administrator (right click) hoping it would solve the issue, but it hasn't

UAC SUCKSS!!!! :( I got many problems and incompatibilities for that system...

RE: [Updated] Live Notifier V1.10 (formerly Convo Notifier) by Bryan84 on 05-22-2007 at 02:55 AM

trini, Yes I did disable.

DEP cannot  be disable I thought? Only gives you the option to select all programs or those u selected?

What does that commands does?

But I do still want other scripts to run.


RE: [Updated] Live Notifier V1.10 (formerly Convo Notifier) by trini on 05-22-2007 at 09:19 AM

Bryan84, that command disables DEP :) And you install other scripts after you have installed Live Notifier, you still can use them.


RE: [Updated] Live Notifier V1.10 (formerly Convo Notifier) by Bryan84 on 05-22-2007 at 11:56 AM

so means Live Notifier must be FIRST?


RE: RE: [Updated] Live Notifier V1.10 (formerly Convo Notifier) by trini on 05-22-2007 at 12:06 PM

quote:
Originally posted by Bryan84
so means Live Notifier must be FIRST?

I don't really know does it make difference on your system, it might depend of what other scripts you are using. I just can tell you how I got it working, it did crash my WLM when other scripts were installed previously. This not necessarily happen with you. You can try, to see, if it works without removing everything else.
RE: [Updated] Live Notifier V1.10 (formerly Convo Notifier) by Bryan84 on 05-22-2007 at 04:01 PM

Awww then never mind .. I will just do without this script :D


RE: [Updated] Live Notifier V1.10 (formerly Convo Notifier) by skre on 05-23-2007 at 02:20 PM

Hi mrhuge, i'm an Italian boy and i'm sorry but I don't speak well English... Exists some way for knowing who has installed convo notifier? I try to explain itself better...
1) PC1 open the window of PC2's contact.
2) PC2 reads: PC1 is starting a conversation with you. Because convo notifier it has installed
3) But PC1 reads: PC2 knows that you have opened its window

Tnx


RE: [Updated] Live Notifier V1.10 (formerly Convo Notifier) by CookieRevised on 05-23-2007 at 06:17 PM

quote:
Originally posted by skre
Exists some way for knowing who has installed convo notifier?
no

But I strongly suggest you read:
CookieRevised's reply to Question regarding a "close msg window logger"
RE: [Updated] Live Notifier V1.10 (formerly Convo Notifier) by majbach on 06-08-2007 at 03:24 AM

I read to page 15 and got too tired of reading to find why mine is no longer working...so, new post. Might be a revisit.

Anyway, I 've found this to be one of the most useful scripts but I noticed some time ago I was no longer getting notifications. I've since done a reinstall of Win XP (for other reasons - not b/c of this scrip -LOL) and am running the lastest versions of everything. This is also the only script installed but I have yet to see any pop-up notifications. I also cannot seem to find the menu/options I have read about in this thread. Any suggestions what I can do next?


RE: [Updated] Live Notifier V1.10 (formerly Convo Notifier) by BlueSteel on 06-27-2007 at 01:57 PM

Hey, can someome show the code that would allow this script to write to the events log?


RE: [Updated] Live Notifier V1.10 (formerly Convo Notifier) by kryp2nyt on 06-27-2007 at 07:20 PM

yea this idea would be very nice


RE: [Updated] Live Notifier V1.10 (formerly Convo Notifier) by perish on 07-01-2007 at 01:16 AM

So many people need an event log file for convo notifier but no one cares. If anyone is able to make it possible, please stop to discuss if it is necessary or if it will be accurate but simply just do it. Because without a log file the notifier's use is so limited: you cannot be looking at your monitor 24 hours a day. Even if you are looking, it is possible to miss the toast message as it displays only for a few seconds. Please consider this important, people need it even if you don't think so.


RE: [Updated] Live Notifier V1.10 (formerly Convo Notifier) by CookieRevised on 07-03-2007 at 06:36 PM

quote:
Originally posted by perish
So many people need an event log file for convo notifier but no one cares.
Because notifying for open convo's DOES NOT WORK in the first place!!! That's the whole point... Please read:
"CookieRevised's reply to Question regarding a "close msg window logger"" very carefully!!!

People do not "need" it, they "want" it... But what they want doesn't work properly in the first place, eventhough they THINK it does work.

If you "want" it I suggest to take a look at the Official Scripting Documentation and make your own script and/or additions. I wont list here what you need to change since tools like this should not be encouraged to be used. Because encouraging the usage of such tools will not educate people that such tools wont work in the first place.
RE: RE: [Updated] Live Notifier V1.10 (formerly Convo Notifier) by perish on 07-03-2007 at 11:04 PM

quote:
Originally posted by CookieRevised
quote:
Originally posted by perish
So many people need an event log file for convo notifier but no one cares.
Because notifying for open convo's DOES NOT WORK in the first place!!! That's the whole point... Please read:
"CookieRevised's reply to Question regarding a "close msg window logger"" very carefully!!!

People do not "need" it, they "want" it... But what they want doesn't work properly in the first place, eventhough they THINK it does work.

If you "want" it I suggest to take a look at the Official Scripting Documentation and make your own script and/or additions. I wont list here what you need to change since tools like this should not be encouraged to be used. Because encouraging the usage of such tools will not educate people that such tools wont work in the first place.


Unfortunately you haven't understood while such a simple log file is needed by people. Open session notifiers are best used as "appear offline notifiers". Even though their notifications are not accurate for conversation opening or closing, their existence are proof of appearing offline people. By simply changing your display picture and waiting for the notifications, you can detect appearing offline users. If there is an opening session for an offline user, he/she is appearing offline to you. You can disapprove this usage, you can say it is unnecessary but you can't say it doesn't work. People "need" a log file because this kind of usage necessitates a log file.

And sorry, I don't know anything about scripting so I can't write my own script. That's why I am asking for help from those who are able to do it.
RE: [Updated] Live Notifier V1.10 (formerly Convo Notifier) by CookieRevised on 07-04-2007 at 01:08 AM

quote:
Originally posted by perish
Unfortunately you haven't understood while such a simple log file is needed by people.
I have... but I also said that adding such a feature is only going to encourage people to use such notifiers MORE, while people should be discouraged to use such tool as most people use it as an open window notifier and think it works.

Again, I perfectly understood what you were suggesting. In fact, back in the time that such notifiers did worked (years ago) this was one of the features suggested by me and others to be added to a much used notifier plugin....


PS: Only the creator of this script, mrhuge, can add/change it anyways...
RE: [Updated] Live Notifier V1.10 (formerly Convo Notifier) by mc2 on 07-04-2007 at 02:03 PM

Hi and Thx MrHuge for your script.

Is it possible to add a log file (eg: LiveNotifer.log) in your script directory?

example:
Date/Time - NickName




RE: [Updated] Live Notifier V1.10 (formerly Convo Notifier) by dirtydonsunny on 07-26-2007 at 11:13 PM

sum1 plz help im stuck wen i try 2 install the notifier and an error comes up saying "an error occured while importing the script files." what do i do?? please help


RE: [Updated] Live Notifier V1.10 (formerly Convo Notifier) by cesurkalem on 08-07-2007 at 09:18 PM

i think it must be add a log file directory. thank you.


RE: [Updated] Live Notifier V1.10 (formerly Convo Notifier) by dirtydonsunny on 08-07-2007 at 10:28 PM

how do i add a log file directory?


RE: [Updated] Live Notifier V1.10 (formerly Convo Notifier) by cesurkalem on 08-09-2007 at 09:24 PM

sorry i cannot explain. so when we missed toast messages we cannot see this info later. threfore we want to see toast messages or check event log later. can i explain?


RE: RE: [Updated] Live Notifier V1.10 (formerly Convo Notifier) by Nunx on 08-13-2007 at 06:26 PM

quote:
Originally posted by dirtydonsunny
sum1 plz help im stuck wen i try 2 install the notifier and an error comes up saying "an error occured while importing the script files." what do i do?? please help


I'm having the same problem. I'm on Vista Home Premium, WLM 8.5.1238 and MsgPlus 4.23.0.276

Never had it before, with Windows XP.

Already granted All Access to my user on the MsgPlus directory so my guess is that the script copies files into other directories too.

Also tried with Convo Notifier and Live Notifier.

Anyone can give us a hand? Thanx in advance.
RE: [Updated] Live Notifier V1.10 (formerly Convo Notifier) by dirtydonsunny on 08-13-2007 at 08:02 PM

yh im on vista 2 i forgot 2 mention sum1 help!!


RE: [Updated] Live Notifier V1.10 (formerly Convo Notifier) by Lemon on 08-16-2007 at 01:32 PM

Ehh, I was quite curious if this thing actually works so I gave this Notifier script a test by using one of my msn account to open the convo of my other msn account. (Gotta love polygamy)

Apparently, toasts from people of the Newer version (8.1) are false.

Toasts are sent rather, not after they opened the chat window but after they sent you a message ! o_o now That's quite useless isn't it?

Example would be, someone opens up a conversation on you, you dont receive a toast.

Then that same person sends a message to you, you receive the toast THEN you receive his/her message.


8.1->8.1: DOESNT WORK

So then, I thought, well... this script is... quite worthless.

But then, I gave it another experiment... Except this time I used the lovely 4.0 Windows Messenger (which all XP Computers were already equipped in the beginning) to open convo for my other version 8.1 Windows Live Messenger account.

It worked, quite well too. I received an immediate toast on my 8.1 every time the 4.0 Windows Messenger opens up a conversation with me.

4.0->8.1: It worked ? O_O

I did the same experiment with MSN Messenger 6.0, it worked rather fine as well.
6.0->8.1: It worked again! ^^

But with the version 7.5, the toasts were delayed (10~40secs) and sometimes, it even sends out a false toast. :S

7.5->8.1: Ineffective

Thus...

toasts about people of the MSN version 4.0~7.0 should be the most accurate.

Toasts about people of the MSN version 7.5 would be somewhat accurate.

Toasts about people of the MSN version 8.1 or above would be false.

This is just my speculation from my experiment. Why am I posting this? Just to warn people who thinks 'Live Notifier' is fool-proof :) Amen.

*runs away*


RE: [Updated] Live Notifier V1.10 (formerly Convo Notifier) by Eddie on 08-16-2007 at 02:58 PM

Lemon that has been posted a thousand times before, a simple forum search would tell you that, especially if you searched CookieRevised [no  offense cookie] lol :P Now can we all stop with all these it works and it doesn't work and all this trash, we know it does not work but some people just like the feature so let them put up with it.


RE: [Updated] Live Notifier V1.10 (formerly Convo Notifier) by Steven on 08-16-2007 at 05:50 PM

I got a pop up saying it could not load the script pack..

Probably somethign in this thread would answer my questoin...


RE: [Updated] Live Notifier V1.10 (formerly Convo Notifier) by hfsampa on 08-25-2007 at 12:37 PM

I cannot install your script.
I loved convo notifier, but now I got Vista in my new computer and it won't install Live Notifier..
:(


RE: [Updated] Live Notifier V1.10 (formerly Convo Notifier) by alister on 09-03-2007 at 01:05 PM

well in messenger 8.1 witch im using the convo notifyer works abit as when i see somones opened a chat box then they message me to seconeds later well means it works of course doesnt work all of the time tho would be good if somone could make it work properly tho from what is said here im guessing that cant be done cos of certain things


RE: [Updated] Live Notifier V1.10 (formerly Convo Notifier) by memorybox on 09-04-2007 at 06:08 AM

I like this program!!
But when I use it in my office computer, it doesn't work.
Does it have any limit when I use it ?

I'm on Windows XP Profressional, WLM 8.1.0178 and MsgPlus 4.23.0.276


RE: [Updated] Live Notifier V1.10 (formerly Convo Notifier) by raghav on 09-04-2007 at 08:18 AM

Sweet , thanks mrhuge , looks great.


RE: [Updated] Live Notifier V1.10 (formerly Convo Notifier) by trini on 09-18-2007 at 10:55 PM

After upgrading to WLM 8.5 beta 2 ,I'm experiencing some strange behaviour of my messenger with this script.
I'm running it on Vista. Links in conversation windows stopped work - web page won't open when I click them. I can't export my plus! settings - the window where I must chose the location, just freez, all buttons come not responsible, must log off from messenger to be able to close it. Also can't always add emoticons  - when I browse through the folders, the window just freez. When trying to save voice clip in conversation window, messenger will freez.
I removed all scripts and installed them one by one, and this will only occur when Live Notifier is installed. I removed it and using Convo Notifier now instead ,and all is back to normal with my WLM again. :^)


RE: [Updated] Live Notifier V1.10 (formerly Convo Notifier) by Edw on 09-19-2007 at 03:49 PM

bug in displaying chinese name


RE: [Updated] Live Notifier V1.10 (formerly Convo Notifier) by Winky on 09-19-2007 at 05:06 PM

Vista users who wanna use this script run Messenger on Admin rights.


RE: RE: [Updated] Live Notifier V1.10 (formerly Convo Notifier) by trini on 09-23-2007 at 12:27 PM

quote:
Originally posted by Winky
Vista users who wanna use this script run Messenger on Admin rights.

Administrator is the only account on my laptop, still this script is not working for me :^)
RE: [Updated] Live Notifier V1.10 (formerly Convo Notifier) by MsnPlus rockz on 10-07-2007 at 03:24 PM

Works tihs script like the Open Nitifier 0.5 BETA?


RE: [Updated] Live Notifier V1.10 (formerly Convo Notifier) by Darkblade on 11-07-2007 at 09:23 PM

Is this going to work just fine with the newest Messenger Live which is 8.5? Also, is there a feature such as "notify when someone has closes the conversation window"? It used to be a feature in the old version of StuffPlug addon. I'm really, really looking forward to this!


RE: [Updated] Live Notifier V1.10 (formerly Convo Notifier) by Zahid™ on 11-08-2007 at 10:32 AM

quote:
Originally posted by Darkblade
Is this going to work just fine with the newest Messenger Live which is 8.5? Also, is there a feature such as "notify when someone has closes the conversation window"? It used to be a feature in the old version of StuffPlug addon. I'm really, really looking forward to this!
No thats not possible anymore.
RE: [Updated] Live Notifier V1.10 (formerly Convo Notifier) by Darkblade on 11-08-2007 at 05:34 PM

Why not?


RE: [Updated] Live Notifier V1.10 (formerly Convo Notifier) by Zahid™ on 11-08-2007 at 07:38 PM

quote:
Originally posted by Darkblade
Why not?
Because of the way Windows Live Messenger is made.
RE: [Updated] Live Notifier V1.10 (formerly Convo Notifier) by Darkblade on 11-09-2007 at 01:11 PM

But I thought this addon is going to work with Live as well. :D


RE: [Updated] Live Notifier V1.10 (formerly Convo Notifier) by Zahid™ on 11-09-2007 at 01:16 PM

quote:
Originally posted by Darkblade
Also, is there a feature such as "notify when someone has closes the conve
It does work with live, i was talking about the notification when someone closes the conversation window.
RE: [Updated] Live Notifier V1.10 (formerly Convo Notifier) by ninjaman36 on 11-14-2007 at 06:06 PM

It confuses me a bit..

sometimes when I send someone a message and let the window be open, after a while I get a notification xxx has opened a conversation, then there's no message. Then, say 30 mins later for example, I get a new notification xxx has opened a conversation. I'd take this as an indication that the user actually closes the window, and then decides to message me back after a while.. but you say it's impossible to see with MSN Live?


RE: RE: [Updated] Live Notifier V1.10 (formerly Convo Notifier) by Orgrim Doomhammer on 11-15-2007 at 03:25 PM

quote:
Originally posted by ninjaman36
It confuses me a bit..

sometimes when I send someone a message and let the window be open, after a while I get a notification xxx has opened a conversation, then there's no message. Then, say 30 mins later for example, I get a new notification xxx has opened a conversation. I'd take this as an indication that the user actually closes the window, and then decides to message me back after a while.. but you say it's impossible to see with MSN Live?
actually, this script doesn't show you when a contact opens a convo with you, but when a connection between your PC and his is established. so, when you get a notification, it might also be your contact's program which is refreshing the information about you, or your contact having a look at your personal information.
RE: [Updated] Live Notifier V1.10 (formerly Convo Notifier) by mzjatti on 11-15-2007 at 05:13 PM

i cant seem to download this for some reason .. everytime i try it says "an error occurred whilst importing with script files" <-- whats all that about? Can anyone help me pleasE?


RE: [Updated] Live Notifier V1.10 (formerly Convo Notifier) by Kuraudo on 11-20-2007 at 09:32 PM

Live Notifier V1.10 cause crash of live messenger 8.5.1302.1018 sometimes.

btw cool script.


RE: [Updated] Live Notifier V1.10 (formerly Convo Notifier) by reem_911 on 11-23-2007 at 01:33 AM

i`ll try it and i hope its work..............thanks alot


RE: RE: [Updated] Live Notifier V1.10 (formerly Convo Notifier) by TEG on 11-26-2007 at 05:32 PM

quote:
Originally posted by Kuraudo
Live Notifier V1.10 cause crash of live messenger 8.5.1302.1018 sometimes.

btw cool script.
I have the same issue but with version 8.1.0178.00 over XP but always crash my live messenger.
BTW, when I configure it in Spanish, it disapears from the Scripts button on my contact list.

I must deactivate it... :^)
RE: RE: [Updated] Live Notifier V1.10 (formerly Convo Notifier) by Squillace on 11-26-2007 at 06:29 PM

quote:
Originally posted by Kuraudo
Live Notifier V1.10 cause crash of live messenger 8.5.1302.1018 sometimes.

btw cool script.

Same here. I just can't use it... sometimes someone try to talk we me (opening a new window OR NOT), Live Notifier shows the notifier and WLM crashes. Nothing to do... it's very annoying.
RE: RE: RE: [Updated] Live Notifier V1.10 (formerly Convo Notifier) by jolheat on 11-30-2007 at 02:17 AM

quote:
Originally posted by Squillace
quote:
Originally posted by Kuraudo
Live Notifier V1.10 cause crash of live messenger 8.5.1302.1018 sometimes.

btw cool script.

Same here. I just can't use it... sometimes someone try to talk we me (opening a new window OR NOT), Live Notifier shows the notifier and WLM crashes. Nothing to do... it's very annoying.

my script doesnt even notify me =(  and it said it was installed succesfullyedit* wait now its crashing on me
RE: [Updated] Live Notifier V1.10 (formerly Convo Notifier) by Orgrim Doomhammer on 11-30-2007 at 04:00 PM

have you tried uninstalling WLM completely and then reinstall it? if, I can remember, after I did it, live notifier worked just fine.


RE: RE: [Updated] Live Notifier V1.10 (formerly Convo Notifier) by jolheat on 11-30-2007 at 10:39 PM

quote:
Originally posted by Orgrim Doomhammer
have you tried uninstalling WLM completely and then reinstall it? if, I can remember, after I did it, live notifier worked just fine.

i reinstalled it notifer works sometimes but it still freezes, lotta people having this problems seems like
RE: [Updated] Live Notifier V1.10 (formerly Convo Notifier) by riga on 12-12-2007 at 09:58 PM

the script works.....

but crashes all the time with MSN 8.5!!!!

are there some "tricks" to make this stable?
or can we expect an incoming fix?

this script is wonderful... but i have to disable it :(


RE: [Updated] Live Notifier V1.10 (formerly Convo Notifier) by Myros on 12-15-2007 at 03:28 PM

This is sorta strange..

Convo Notifier worked just fine for me.

When installing Live Notifier, I get a message saying that the script has been installed successfully, but, nothing ever happens, no toast message.

And by 'settings' window, do you mean the window with all that.. coding language stuff? :P

EDIT: I'm on version: 8.1.0178


RE: [Updated] Live Notifier V1.10 (formerly Convo Notifier) by Pebbles27 on 12-20-2007 at 12:01 AM

Hi!

I downloaded the script but it doesn't install. I suspect it may be because I have Windows Vista.

Does this work with Windows Vista?


RE: [Updated] Live Notifier V1.10 (formerly Convo Notifier) by CookieRevised on 12-20-2007 at 12:55 AM

For all of those who have troubles with this script, please read threads before posting...
The many reasons for this script not working are already explained.

Anyways, please at least read this:
CookieRevised's reply to Question regarding a "close msg window logger"

Such notifier scripts, plugins and/or addons STOPPED WORKING SINCE MSN MESSENGER 7.0!!! That's several years ago!!!

In short: do not bother trying to install this, it will NOT work anyways. see the link in this post why...


RE: [Updated] Live Notifier V1.10 (formerly Convo Notifier) by Myros on 12-24-2007 at 12:14 PM

@cookie: That would be nice, but we're talking about 44 pages here :P


RE: [Updated] Live Notifier V1.10 (formerly Convo Notifier) by warmth on 12-24-2007 at 01:05 PM

quote:
Originally posted by Myros
@cookie: That would be nice, but we're talking about 44 pages here :P
11 for me cause I'm displaying 40 post per page :P... so???
RE: RE: [Updated] Live Notifier V1.10 (formerly Convo Notifier) by globalinsites on 12-24-2007 at 02:55 PM

quote:
Originally posted by riga
the script works.....

but crashes all the time with MSN 8.5!!!!

are there some "tricks" to make this stable?
or can we expect an incoming fix?

this script is wonderful... but i have to disable it :(

Same thing here.. I love the script, but it crashes WLM too often. I think it crashes when someone opens a conversation with me. Unfortunately it's not possible to choose which notifications to receive and which not to receive.

I'm affraid I'm gonna have to disable this script.

Are there any alternatives for this script? I used to use messenger discovery but it slowed up my pc too much, don't wanna install that again.
RE: [Updated] Live Notifier V1.10 (formerly Convo Notifier) by CookieRevised on 12-24-2007 at 05:59 PM

With all respect but PLEASE read some posts and follow some links before posting....


The reason why this thread is "44 pages long" is because people do not bother to read or at least follow some links in post, even if they were posted a few posts before...


RE: [Updated] Live Notifier V1.10 (formerly Convo Notifier) by chrissywww on 01-03-2008 at 04:34 PM

Its doesnt work, it isnt telling me when people open my convo, i asked some firends to try opening my convo and closing but it didnt come up with anything telling me they did,


RE: [Updated] Live Notifier V1.10 (formerly Convo Notifier) by Spunky on 01-03-2008 at 04:39 PM

quote:
Originally posted by chrissywww
Its doesnt work, it isnt telling me when people open my convo, i asked some firends to try opening my convo and closing but it didnt come up with anything telling me they did,

quote:
Originally posted by CookieRevised
With all respect but PLEASE read some posts and follow some links before posting....


The reason why this thread is "44 pages long" is because people do not bother to read or at least follow some links in post, even if they were posted a few posts before...

I have already replied to the other post you made. Please keep to one thread, search before posting and most importantly, please be patient in waiting for a reply

RE: [Updated] Live Notifier V1.10 (formerly Convo Notifier) by chrissywww on 01-03-2008 at 05:02 PM

I completey understand but ive looked through alot of the threads and none of them that iv read matched my question.


RE: [Updated] Live Notifier V1.10 (formerly Convo Notifier) by CookieRevised on 01-03-2008 at 11:03 PM

chirssywww, this was posted only 5 posts before yours (and many many times already in this and other threads also):

quote:
Originally posted by CookieRevised
For all of those who have troubles with this script, please read threads before posting...
The many reasons for this script not working are already explained.

Anyways, please at least read this:
CookieRevised's reply to Question regarding a "close msg window logger"

Such notifier scripts, plugins and/or addons STOPPED WORKING SINCE MSN MESSENGER 7.0!!! That's several years ago!!!

In short: do not bother trying to install this, it will NOT work anyways. see the link in this post why...

RE: [Updated] Live Notifier V1.10 (formerly Convo Notifier) by kylianne on 02-03-2008 at 08:12 PM

(sorry for my english but I speak very well only italian...)

I use script "live notifier".
This script is fantastic, but I would want that:
- to obtain a sound when a notification appears
- that the notifications are recorded in one file (so that if are online but they are not to the computer, I can see them equally)

Exist scripts that can help me?
Exists one version of "live notifier" that have these possibilities?

Thanks
Ely


RE: [Updated] Live Notifier V1.10 (formerly Convo Notifier) by Volum on 04-20-2008 at 01:27 PM

Hmm, i have problem with that script, it works, but it doesn't let send messages to the others. that means that it doesn't work or something?


RE: [Updated] Live Notifier V1.10 (formerly Convo Notifier) by alister on 04-26-2008 at 04:51 PM

ok so this looks great what im wondering is it says u wont get notifyed if a convo with somone is open so if its open to somone and they delete you does it tell you?

somthing i think would be good for this would be the features found in discovery live of

well when somone has blocked you or is appearing offline and opens a convo with other people on there friends list discovery live gives you a notification

saying this person has opened a conversation window or somthing like that

witch kinda shows you if somones appearing offline or if they blocked you since i detects them opening convos connections to other people and says it

witch using discovery live for that 1 thing is annoying

also maybe a notification for when somone closes a convo with you? dont no if that would work properly tho

is this app still been worked on? as its been some time its been here

dont think its in the downloads section so just wondering as this is usefull?

hmm just saw above info ill use dicovery live on myself and see how it goes detecting and see what postives and falses it does on me


RE: [Updated] Live Notifier V1.10 (formerly Convo Notifier) by Matt-in on 04-26-2008 at 06:20 PM

Can You Please Update This Script to work with Vista And 8.5 Latest Version No Matter If it doesnt work properly...PLS


RE: [Updated] Live Notifier V1.10 (formerly Convo Notifier) by alister on 05-01-2008 at 10:42 AM

you no a script that informs you when somone adds you or deletes you may be handy

i no the delete notification when somone deletes you was in your script maybe you could make that into a script of its own

i mean that does have its usefullness when somone deltes you if your notifyed on the screen

witch discovery live has aswell witch i dont no if others think thats handy i do tho


RE: [Updated] Live Notifier V1.10 (formerly Convo Notifier) by ahmedsaid on 05-03-2008 at 01:18 AM

thanks!!


RE: [Updated] Live Notifier V1.10 (formerly Convo Notifier) by wingwing999 on 07-23-2008 at 12:57 PM

i have a recommendation about ur plugin
it should have a notifier for contact exit from ur conversation


RE: [Updated] Live Notifier V1.10 (formerly Convo Notifier) by Jimbo on 07-23-2008 at 01:13 PM

quote:
Originally posted by wingwing999
i have a recommendation about ur plugin
it should have a notifier for contact exit from ur conversation
I'm sorry, but do people these days actually read? It's 100% not possible anymore!!!!
RE: RE: [Updated] Live Notifier V1.10 (formerly Convo Notifier) by wingwing999 on 07-23-2008 at 01:55 PM

quote:
Originally posted by Jimbo
quote:
Originally posted by wingwing999
i have a recommendation about ur plugin
it should have a notifier for contact exit from ur conversation
I'm sorry, but do people these days actually read? It's 100% not possible anymore!!!!
but why those chat bot can perform this trick and we can't?_?

RE: [Updated] Live Notifier V1.10 (formerly Convo Notifier) by CookieRevised on 07-23-2008 at 11:53 PM

quote:
Originally posted by wingwing999
quote:
Originally posted by Jimbo
quote:
Originally posted by wingwing999
i have a recommendation about ur plugin
it should have a notifier for contact exit from ur conversation
I'm sorry, but do people these days actually read? It's 100% not possible anymore!!!!
but why those chat bot can perform this trick and we can't?_?
A chatbot can not perform this trick either....

For the <lost count>th time:

You can only detect a session being closed, NOT a conversation.

There is no way anyone (chatbot, human or whatever else) can detect if a conversation window is closed or opened. All you can detect is if a session is closed. But that does NOT automatically mean the conversation window was closed. There is a big difference!!!!!!!!!!!

This isn't possible anymore since MSN Messenger 7, several years ago.....

--------

As already said extremely many times in this thread: please read posts carefully before posting, especially if links are given which explain stuff...

Please read: CookieRevised's reply to Question regarding a "close msg window logger"
RE: [Updated] Live Notifier V1.10 (formerly Convo Notifier) by nevikwen on 07-27-2008 at 09:12 AM

hi, When i try import the script it says " some of the files used by the script were locked and couldnt be updated. Click ok to restart messenger and complete the installation."
and after I click ok it says " the script failed to install"

Can someone please help me with this?
thankyou


RE: [Updated] Live Notifier V1.10 (formerly Convo Notifier) by Skade on 08-26-2008 at 03:05 AM

Is there a little window that logs and can record to show the "Open window" event? I want to see if people open my convo window because I'm not always at my computer. Possible?
I want to see a window with a list of people who open my convo window. If anybody knows of one lemme know!

Is this Script dead?


RE: [Updated] Live Notifier V1.10 (formerly Convo Notifier) by Coreanjustin on 08-26-2008 at 04:56 AM

Eh some error came up when I tried to install it, dunno what happened. I was playing maplestory when I tried to install, D:
Froze my game ;o;


RE: [Updated] Live Notifier V1.10 (formerly Convo Notifier) by CookieRevised on 08-26-2008 at 06:57 AM

Skade: please read some posts before posting. In this case you just had to read the last post in this thread (thus the post right before yours). It explains it is not possible anymore to detect opened conversations since years. ;)


RE: [Updated] Live Notifier V1.10 (formerly Convo Notifier) by jbcrazygurl on 10-09-2008 at 05:57 PM

i get a message saying:

An expception occured!

Mesagge: Acess violation at address 03173D65 in module
'BOTDKL~1.DLL'. Write of address 03173D65
Type: EAddressViolation
Source: EstablishedMSNHooks


PLEASE HELP ME I NEED THIS SCRIPT ITS MY FAVORITE


RE: [Updated] Live Notifier V1.10 (formerly Convo Notifier) by kabso 5 on 10-18-2008 at 12:12 PM

Nice

i hope it will work with WLM 9,0

can you add a notification if someone close the Convo ?


RE: [Updated] Live Notifier V1.10 (formerly Convo Notifier) by SmokingCookie on 10-20-2008 at 12:40 PM

WLM 8.5, Plus! 4.70, WinVista SP 1, 32 bit gives this error:

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@ CookieRevised: you should edit your sig, make it explain why convo open/close notifiers are fake/not working/whatever :P


RE: [Updated] Live Notifier V1.10 (formerly Convo Notifier) by Trenomarcus on 11-13-2008 at 11:14 AM

I've this problem too...:(


RE: [Updated] Live Notifier V1.10 (formerly Convo Notifier) by hedline on 11-21-2008 at 12:34 AM

I get the same error message on Vista home premium with a Wireless connection*-)


RE: [Updated] Live Notifier V1.10 (formerly Convo Notifier) by IA015 on 05-09-2009 at 03:51 PM

Same here and I use windows 7 32bit and gives that error everytime I start msn up.

But I got same error randomly on xp previously.


RE: [Updated] Live Notifier V1.10 (formerly Convo Notifier) by J_Martin on 05-16-2009 at 01:18 AM

I've always used this script without problem

But now its giving me trouble. Everytime I let the script enabled the Plus functionality "event logger" stop working. It doesn't log anymore the events from my friends, only my own are shown. When I disable the script everything works fine

What could be happening?


RE: [Updated] Live Notifier V1.10 (formerly Convo Notifier) by IA015 on 05-16-2009 at 09:09 AM

This scirpt needs to be updated. I hope someone can do it.


RE: [Updated] Live Notifier V1.10 (formerly Convo Notifier) by Dr KAsBeR on 08-27-2009 at 09:46 PM

Hi every body

I was finished Live Notifier V1.10 << by Arabic Language

And i think a lot of arabic people need to Live Notifier V1.10 in arabic


Done By Dr.KAsBeR -=- e2o@hotmail.com

thanks a lot

Admin edit: attachment removed (ZIP » BotDKLive.dll - probably a variant of Win32/Agent.KVFKBZN trojan)


RE: [Updated] Live Notifier V1.10 (formerly Convo Notifier) by andrey on 09-21-2009 at 10:03 AM

script is obviously borked. first noticed that it interfered with the plus! contest, now on wlm 2009 it prevents the msn games page from loading.
are there any working alternatives (session notifiers) or plans to update it?


RE: [Updated] Live Notifier V1.10 (formerly Convo Notifier) by ahmed® on 11-23-2009 at 12:37 PM

new turkish trasnlation


RE: [Updated] Live Notifier V1.10 (formerly Convo Notifier) by UsSa on 11-28-2009 at 05:58 PM

Hii ...
Hello, I have windows 7 messenger2009 and I downloaded the script convo notifier does not work, now I do not know what to do:S
help me


RE: [Updated] Live Notifier V1.10 (formerly Convo Notifier) by UsSa on 11-28-2009 at 06:20 PM

But,it works until 2 days ago, only now that I bought Windows 7 It not work....


RE: [Updated] Live Notifier V1.10 (formerly Convo Notifier) by CookieRevised on 11-28-2009 at 06:25 PM

Please read this thread before posting.

You don't even need to read the entire thread to know why it does not work, simply read a page or two. It is explained more than once on almost every page that such scripts do not work anymore, no matter what OS you're running!.
Remember: the reason why some threads like this are so long is simply because people don't bother to read before making a new post...


quote:
Already posted several times by CookieRevised in this same thread

For all of those who have troubles with this script, please, please, please read this and other threads before posting...
The many reasons for this script not working are already explained thousands of times.

Anyways, you can also read this, which explains in detail why such scripts, plugins, tools and addons do not work anymore:
CookieRevised's reply to Question regarding a "close msg window logger"

Such notifier scripts, plugins tools and addons STOPPED WORKING SINCE MSN MESSENGER 7.0!!! That's already several years ago!!!

In short: please do not bother trying to install this, it will NOT work anyways. If you believe it does work, then you are wrong. The fact is that it does NOT work; please read the post linked above. As such, no support will be given; it is completely impossible to make it working again due to the way Messenger works now-a-days.

;)