Due to the longness of this post, tolerate my worse (!) English and read to the end please

We saw that Patchou has been added a new option in contact list clean-up window in the new version. That is: "Show contacts who have you", in other words "show reverse list". At first glimpse, I liked that new option, but when I thought about it deeply afterwards, I noticed that there are some problems with it.

I know, talking about features which I didn't test at all may sound unlogical. But I think I could understand the feature enough from the screenshot.

If you agree now, I suggest you to change it, or completely remove before the beta tests begin. (Testers, I'm sorry if this delays the time you get the betas)

First of all, I wonder if this new option was inspired from my suggestion here and my picture for it? If yes, I can safely say that, "sorry, that is not my request "



First of all, can anyone tell me what its benefit will be? I doubt very much that it will help us in anyway while we are cleaning contact list.

The first problem is, in my opinion, it won't show all contacts in the Contact List. So while it doesn't show all of them, how a succesful cleaning process would it be??? (Don't say "You can use the other option to display all contacts in your Contact List." I know it but I question this new option now here)

The second problem is this. The only difference of this new option from the other option "Show contacts in your list" is, it will also show contacts who we can't see in the first option (Show contacts in your list). But this window is about contacts in our contact lists. So how can we call it as a cleaning process while they are not already in our Contact List?

Another problem with this second case, what will it do when we press on Delete button after selecting a contact who we already don't have in our contact list? Because we know that, that list is the Reverse list, and if you say it will delete them from Reverse list, it won't make sense because we cannot do anything on it. That list is all up to other people on Messenger world.

And another problem is the statistics of people who we don't have. Since we don't have them in our contact list, how can Plus! be supposed to keep statistics for them, especially for "Last Online" item?

We must remember that, that feature's main purpose is Cleaning-up Contact list? So why shall it show us our Reverse list? What will we do with them? We can already see our Reverse list from Messenger Options>Privacy>"Show contacts who have added you [Display]"

OK, I have changed my Allow&Block lists cleaning-up suggestion after I saw that screenshot of new Contact List Clean-up window. Now let me tell it to you:

As you know there are four lists on Messenger:

1. Contact List
2. Allow List
3. Block List
4. Reverse List

1. Contact List
2. Allow&Block Lists
3. Reverse List

1. Contact List
2. Allow&Block Lists
   1. Reverse List
   2. Other contacts

• Group B: In Contact, Allow&Block Lists
• Group C: In Contact, Allow&Block, Reverse Lists
• Group D: In Allow&Block, Reverse Lists
• Group E: Only in Allow&Block List

• Group A: Only in Contact List

Your english is very good, probably better than mine so don't worry about it.

I'll reply quickly now before sending out beta 1 to testers: yes, the new option was inspired by your suggestion and thsoe of others. When "Show contacts who have you" is enabled, the Delete button will be replaced by an "Add" one which makes more sense, as you said.

I encourage testers to read your post fully and reply appropriately. Right now, the feature as it's been added seems useful enough to me .

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Originally posted by Patchou
I'll reply quickly now before sending out beta 1 to testers:

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Originally posted by ahmetgns
Also for the Allow&Block List

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I do like the feature suggested, an "Allow and Block List" cleanup could be very useful imo.  Especially for older WLM accounts, where you may have gone through hundreds of contacts over the years and have various blocks in place that no longer matter/you dont need.  I would personally like to see such a feature implemented, however, It may not be used by more common users, as You-Know-Who stated.

"Add" button will make the new option more meaningful, but it will ruin the traditional purpose of Contact List Clean-Up feature, because it helps not to clean but to make list more crowded. OK OK no problem .

But the problem now is, what will happen when we press "Add" button after selecting a contact we already have . Nothing will happen, will it? So since those contacts who we have are already being displayed in the first traditional option, do we really need to see them in both lists? I know, they must be displayed due to consistency but "Add" button is the problem here.

If I guess correct, you are tired and don't want to work on an Allow&Block lists cleaning feature for the next version. But if I'm wrong, if you are still interested in this feature, that "Add" button can be placed on my feature picture. Although that "Add" button may be invalid for some contacts again as stated above, yet it would be a good option for users.

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Originally posted by ahmetgns
what will happen when we press "Add" button after selecting a contact we already have

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Originally posted by Patchou
the Delete button will be replaced by an "Add" one

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Originally posted by ahmetgns
"Add" button will make the new option more meaningful, but it will ruin the traditional purpose of Contact List Clean-Up feature, because it helps not to clean but to make list more crowded.

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Originally posted by markee
I think this is more useful for when you accidentally delete a contact and need to get them back (and they still have you on their list)

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