New release will be fully compatible with Windows Live™ Messenger 2011

Messenger Plus! Live is approaching the release of Plus! 5. This new version, targeted for release in early December of this year, will be completely compatible with Windows Live™ Messenger 2011.  In conjunction with the release of Messenger Plus! 5, users will experience a new look and feel from our rebranded websites. Messenger Plus! Live software remains safe and free to download, and transparent to install.

To ease the transition to Messenger Plus! 5, Yuna Software released an intermediate version, on October 19, 2010, Messenger Plus! Live 4.9. This version is already partially compliant with WLM 2011.  Users of 4.9 will be notified when Plus! 5 is available.

Messenger Plus! Live 4.9 can be downloaded at http://www.msgpluslive.net/download/

The change log for this version is at: http://www.msgpluslive.net/download/changelog/

Yay!

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Nice. Good luck with the development of plus 5

That is certainly nice to hear.

Woohoo! Finally! Plus! for WLM 2011!

EDIT: Hmmm ... it's not working for me. Plus! menu is visible on the contact list, but it doesn't appear in the conversation window (safe mode is disabled). Is skinning the only feature that's working right now?

From what I remember the conversation specific functions won't work in this release. At least that is what was said when I was in Montreal.

Congrats!

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Originally posted by matty
From what I remember the conversation specific functions won't work in this release. At least that is what was said when I was in Montreal.

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Installing... (:

* Spunky wonders what "Plus! Image" is

EDIT:

WLM Version 2011 (Build 15.4.3502.922)
MP!L Version 4.90.0.392 (Released 12/10/2010)

Software not loaded error

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Software not loaded error

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great news

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Originally posted by Mike

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Originally posted by Spunky
Software not loaded error

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Click the "Software not loaded" menu item, and disable safe mode from there

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I think Smile a Mile is coming back

What is working exactly? i cant test it out
Are colored nicks working on contact list, for instance?

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    Compatibility with Messenger 2011 Beta 1 has been removed and replaced by compatibility with the Final version (still un-supported and requires disabling safe mode).
        Skinning is now supported in Messenger 2011 with the exception of custom window shapes.
        Skinning: UIB files can all be properly decoded and re-encoded (windows definitions and styles can be skinned).
        Skinning: resources from new locations are now extracted from Messenger.
    Skinning: comments enclosed in "/* */" are now supported in style files.
    Once the installation is completed succesfully, a web based 'Thank you' page will be launched.
    Once the uninstallation is completed succesfully, a call is made to Messenger Plus! servers for statistical purpose.

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Originally posted by Chrono
Are colored nicks working on contact list, for instance?

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Plus! is not loading here, but I don't get any error message.

When I press Alt, I see the toolbar, and there's an "Plus!" menu, but when I place the mouse over it, it vanishes.
Any ideas?
(Both MPL and WLM were just installed, I was using the old messenger before that, and had never installed a beta)

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Ah, never used it before so didn't know how to activate it... Search function on the forum sucks lol

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Originally posted by Chancer
Plus! is not loading here, but I don't get any error message.

When I press Alt, I see the toolbar, and there's an "Plus!" menu, but when I place the mouse over it, it vanishes.
Any ideas?
(Both MPL and WLM were just installed, I was using the old messenger before that, and had never installed a beta)

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Click the "Software not loaded" menu item, and disable safe mode from there

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Originally posted by ICQ
do what spunky did an it may work

Click the "Software not loaded" menu item, and disable safe mode from there

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Originally posted by Chancer
But where is this "Software not loaded"?

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Hm... I had to check "Show toolbar", and then I was able to click on Plus! menu and find this "Software not loaded".

However, there are no icons on contact list and conv. windows. Perhaps there's no full support.

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Originally posted by Chancer
Perhaps there's no full support.

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almost no features work apparently

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Cool news! Thanks.... Installing atm...

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Originally posted by ICQ

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Originally posted by Spunky
Ah, never used it before so didn't know how to activate it... Search function on the forum sucks lol

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thats why an update to mybb1.6 would come in handy but it all depends whats gonna happen with this forum in December when MPL5 comes out

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Originally posted by Chrono
almost no features work apparently

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Nice work... I mean, who prefers partial skins workin than chat logging or custom sounds... the feature of color nicknames was perfectly understandable since that is something that the WLM team changed... but no text formatting, no plus! menu, nothing works on the conversation window...

Everyone has been trolled hard by Yuna Software.

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Originally posted by Kafman

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Originally posted by Chrono
almost no features work apparently

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Nice work... I mean, who prefers partial skins workin than chat logging or custom sounds... the feature of color nicknames was perfectly understandable since that is something that the WLM team changed... but no text formatting, no plus! menu, nothing works on the conversation window...

Everyone has been trolled hard by Yuna Software.

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Originally posted by Nathalie
This version is already partially compliant with WLM 2011.

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a post stating which functions still work or not would be nice. The changelog gave me the idea that a good part of the functionality would work.

But as I can see now that I "upgraded", plus is pretty much useless with wlm 2011.
Even the chat logging is not working for me, an that's the main reason why I use plus!

Yeah, I fell pretty much trolled too.

Seriously though, I'm in need of the chat log feature so I guess I'm holding off on upgrading for now

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Originally posted by kaxtru
a post stating which functions still work or not would be nice.

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i wanna be a beta testa for 5 (WLM 2011)...


and i have nice new wiches (functions):
messenger: change name into messenger (hide webside)
facebook: prefer Live-ID befor fb Contacts (chatting) - but open fb chat about FB icon in chatwindow
facebook: show offline (nvisible)
facebook: on/off button into messenger
facebook: allow type when fb-contakt offline
facebook: send offline fb-contact after he comes online or automaticl a PM!
facebook: send WLM statusmessege to facebook or 'what iam doing' )with a prefix "@fb Message"
facebook: Online activity reduce or hide just fb online activitiy or set for important people or fb-friends-groups
chatwinbdow: income a Youtube-Video-Url, give a option to show into messenger!
chatwindow: spell check (underline)
contactlist: hide groups when everybody in thear are offline


NEW (30.10.10)

fake a network: this fuction simulate a network fucktion and alow samply icq/jabber/google etc. Chat Contact list!
messenger: set aktivate/deaktivate from "what iam listen with player" into the messenger. (for vlc,wmp,itunes, etc.)
message history: (orginal WLM-history) by Exit ore Logoff delite history from Original Messenger folder. (this fuction show the last history into chatwindow but save chatthistory for spying)


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name ändern (über messenger)
facebook (wenn mit msn und facebook on dann msn bevorzugen aber facebook icon grün anzeigen und cklick auf button fb chat öffnen)
facebook (offline anzeigen)
facebook (on/offline button into messenger)
facebook (neuichkeiten über messenger schreiben)
facebook (wenn Kontakt off, dann trotzem weiterschreiben und evtl automatisch als Nachricht senden oder wenn er wieder on kommt.)
facebook  Online Aktivitäten reduzieren oder nur für fb abschalten.
Kontaktliste (Gruppen ausblenden wenn alle in dieser off)
Chat (Rechtschreib überprüfung)
chatwindow: income a Youtube-Video-Url, give a option to show into messenger!


NEW (30.10.10)
fake a network: this fuction simulate a network fucktion and alow samply icq/jabber/google etc. Chat Contact list!
messenger: set aktivate/deaktivate from "what iam listen with player". (for vlc,wmp,itunes, etc.)
Verlauf: (Orginal Messenger Verlauf) Beim Beenden oder Abmelden Verlauf Komplet vom Orginam Messenger entfernen (dient dazu dennoch beim Chattbox letzte gesendete Nachrichten nachzulesen ohne ein Sicherheitsrisiko ein zu gehen für geschützte Verläufe)

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At least "lock messenger" and a few scripts (such as Gmail Checker) work. It's enough for me, for a while, until another update.

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Originally posted by Spongshga
i wanna be a beta testa for 5 (WLM 2011)...

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WLM2011 Was released. I got a windows update message for windows live essentials. WLM 2011 blows! I had to do a system restore to go back to the old version. The new one takes up the WHOLE screen and has all this junk tacked on the side of your contact lists, it does not look anything remotely the same as the previous version. I sincerely hope someone will be making a skin to retrograde the "new" version to look and function like the old version we all know, love and are used to. otherwise I won't be "upgrading" for as long as I can help it.

But yea just to make everyone aware the "new" and imo poorer 2011 version is live now.

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Originally posted by Chronia
The new one takes up the WHOLE screen and has all this junk tacked on the side of your contact lists, it does not look anything remotely the same as the previous version.

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Originally posted by Chronia
I had to do a system restore to go back to the old version.

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Originally posted by Nathalie
New release will be fully compatible with Windows Live™ Messenger 2011

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Originally posted by Chronia
I had to do a system restore to go back to the old version.

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Originally posted by Chrissy
Sounds a bit misleading

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Oh, gotcha

One more thing. The 'sending of data for statistical purposes' is a mandatory thing? Or can it be disabled?

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Originally posted by Chrissy
The 'sending of data for statistical purposes' is a mandatory thing? Or can it be disabled?

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Is Messenger Plus! 5 going to be released only for WLM 2011 or is it going to support WLM 2009 also?

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Originally posted by ahmetgns
Is Messenger Plus! 5 going to be released only for WLM 2011 or is it going to support WLM 2009 also?

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Originally posted by ahmetgns
Is Messenger Plus! 5 going to be released only for WLM 2011 or is it going to support WLM 2009 also?

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Originally posted by Chrissy

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Originally posted by http://www.msgpluslive.net/download/changelog/
Once the uninstallation is completed succesfully, a call is made to Messenger Plus! servers for statistical purpose.

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Is this optional?

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Great news, I can't wait to use Plus! 5 when it release.

A bit of a out-of-nowhere question, but can anyone who personally use the logging feature confirm whether or not it works in 2011?

Chat logging does not seem to work, see Plus 4.9 on WLM 2011. Which features work and which ones don't.

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Originally posted by Tochjo
Chat logging does not seem to work, see Plus 4.9 on WLM 2011. Which features work and which ones don't.

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Originally posted by Menthix
No, chat logging does not work yet in Plus! 4.9 combined with WLM 2011.

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MSN PLUSSSSSSS for windows live messenger beta 2011 wheeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeen?????

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Originally posted by Msnmaniac
MSN PLUSSSSSSS for windows live messenger beta 2011 wheeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeen?????

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Originally posted by blessedguy

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Originally posted by Msnmaniac
MSN PLUSSSSSSS for windows live messenger beta 2011 wheeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeen?????

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Please, update both your Windows Live Messenger and Plus! then read Plus 4.9 on WLM 2011. Which features work and which ones don't

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Will there be an option to be able to use a nick name on MSN rather than your real name?  I like to use a nickname on MSN while I'm chatting to friends and random people that pop up, but I use my hotmail for job hunting.

If i change my name on MSN to a nickname, it changes my name on hotmail, which is just terrible.  I don't want everything linked together like this I might have to give up on msn if this is going to be the norm.

Is there a way to uninstall this all and revert back to an older version of MSN untill there is a full list of add on's for Plus! Live?

No, as has been stated elsewhere there's no way to have a nickname instead of your real name.  Even if you downgrade to an older version to use a nickname, your contacts will still see your real name, as most of them will have WLM 2011 already.

UGH! That really really sucks.  Some people like their privacy! I don't want to have to make a new hotmail just so that I can chat to random people and not have them knowing my real name.  I like being anon.

I'm going to go back to 2009 anyway, 2011 is really rubbish.

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Originally posted by TwistedAlice
UGH! That really really sucks.  Some people like their privacy! I don't want to have to make a new hotmail just so that I can chat to random people and not have them knowing my real name.  I like being anon.

I'm going to go back to 2009 anyway, 2011 is really rubbish.

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Thanks Cookie.  I'm going to do that right now.  Display names was one of the great reasons of MSN.  I use multi accounts for RolePlaying with friends and use various names on them as well as changing names at various times.

I also don't want random people that I've added from chat rooms at various points in time knowing my real name. 

NEW IDEAS FOR MESSENGER PLUS! LIVE 5: 30.10.10
http://shoutbox.menthix.net/showthread.php?tid=95...1002004#pid1002004

HOW TO KNOW WHO S IN LINE

I was wondering if MSG Plus! 5 will include an update so that you can customize your name with emoticons and whatnot on Windows Live Messenger 2011? I was quite disappointed finding out that you actually had to log into your hotmail profile to change anything to do with your name and even when you do that you must put a first and last name, without being able to add any emoticons. Keep up the good work your guys.

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Originally posted by MoTT
was wondering if MSG Plus! 5 will include an update so that you can customize your name with emoticons and whatnot on Windows Live Messenger 2011?

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Originally posted by Q8Bond007

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Originally posted by Kafman

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Originally posted by Chrono
almost no features work apparently

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Nice work... I mean, who prefers partial skins workin than chat logging or custom sounds... the feature of color nicknames was perfectly understandable since that is something that the WLM team changed... but no text formatting, no plus! menu, nothing works on the conversation window...

Everyone has been trolled hard by Yuna Software.

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Exactly, almost NOTHING works. I don't see the point of releasing this... I'm seeing no difference between using it before(without MP!L) and now after installing MP!L.

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Oh well too bad we lost display names.

Maybe the msn plus team can make a new client using .NET so we can ditch msn essentials 2011 and make them regret their decision. AFAIK I read a post in msn forum about the display name change, because privacy and bla bla so they won't fix it, unless they see lot of users changing IM clients

Even making your own client doesn't mean your contacts will see your nickname. As long as your contacts use Messenger 2011 they will still see your Windows Live Profile name.

Complaining about the change on how names are handled was still worth it during the beta, but it is final now.

Oh well, I was mostly just finding out for a friend. She was quite annoyed by that since she has always had a bunny at the end of her name.

just use AIM or Yahoo or ICQ if you want Custom Display Names that bad

i have messenger plus when i write to someone now it shows the time beside what i wrote how can i stop that can someone help me thanx

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Originally posted by newfiegal
i have messenger plus when i write to someone now it shows the time beside what i wrote how can i stop that can someone help me thanx

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when does the new version come? whats the release day?

There isn't a specific date. We have been told sometime in December.

Any ideas on why I can't get the 4.90 to download? (which should be the version to ease into the v.5 as it says.....)

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Originally posted by murko
Any ideas on why I can't get the 4.90 to download? (which should be the version to ease into the v.5 as it says.....)

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Originally posted by Alias

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Originally posted by murko
Any ideas on why I can't get the 4.90 to download? (which should be the version to ease into the v.5 as it says.....)

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give us a bit more info than that. what browser are you using and are you using it behind a Firefwall? Proxy?

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Originally posted by murko
Tried from 3 diofferent places. At home, At work, even the local library =)

At home FF 3.6.12 and IE8
At work FF 3.5.x and IE7
At the library... IE6 :/

Not behind any proxy home or at work. Can't speak for the library though. No real firewall @home either.

Download works far enough that it lets me say where to save the file to. The in just says "download starts" and "downloading file" but nothing happens and about 5-10 minutes later I have a timeOut!

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Oh, sry. SHould have mentioned the AV aswell
I am using a one called Avira!

Will try temporary shut down of that!

EDIT made no difference what so ever.
Downloading via FF - Nothing happens
Downloading via IE - 3% done, telling me 35 secs left but that's it and have said the same thing over and over.

Trying to just RUN it via IE dont work either

I can download just about anything but I hit a brick wall trying this specific link it seems http://mirror10.msgpluslive.net/20101012/TB/MsgPlusLive-490.exe

Very strange

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Originally posted by murko
Oh, sry. SHould have mentioned the AV aswell
I am using a one called Avira!

Will try temporary shut down of that!

EDIT made no difference what so ever.
Downloading via FF - Nothing happens
Downloading via IE - 3% done, telling me 35 secs left but that's it and have said the same thing over and over.

Trying to just RUN it via IE dont work either

I can download just about anything but I hit a brick wall trying this specific link it seems http://mirror10.msgpluslive.net/20101012/TB/MsgPlusLive-490.exe

Very strange

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That link worked like a charm!
Can someone just confirm that's the original one then I would be happy =)

Thanks for your time!

still strange I wasn't "allowed" to download it from here... I have downloaded from here before, and I have not blacklisted the page in anyway AFAIK

Latest version: 4.90.392

BTW, if someone doesnt answer, ask Menthix, he stores the files elsewhere incase people have trouble downloading them from the official site.

This one says: 4.90.0.392 so it looks ok!

http://rnd.menthix.net/mpl_mirror/MsgPlusLive-490.exe and if that one doesn't work for you either, try http://rnd.menthix.net/mpl_mirror/zipped-installe...sgPlusLive-490.zip in the past some people had problems downloading the .exe but for some reason have no problem getting the same file when it is zipped.

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Originally posted by Menthix
http://rnd.menthix.net/mpl_mirror/MsgPlusLive-490.exe and if that one doesn't work for you either, try http://rnd.menthix.net/mpl_mirror/zipped-installe...sgPlusLive-490.zip in the past some people has problems downloading the .exe but for some reason have no problem getting the same file when it is zipped.

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Originally posted by Menthix
http://rnd.menthix.net/mpl_mirror/MsgPlusLive-490.exe and if that one doesn't work for you either, try http://rnd.menthix.net/mpl_mirror/zipped-installe...sgPlusLive-490.zip in the past some people has problems downloading the .exe but for some reason have no problem getting the same file when it is zipped.

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Something I would like to know, will the new version feature the possibility of having multi messangers signed in? like the old one did? or not?

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Originally posted by devilistic
Something I would like to know, will the new version feature the possibility of having multi messangers signed in? like the old one did? or not?

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Have you had a specific release date for sure?

All we have been told is the middle of December. That can change as the beta team hasn't started testing yet.

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Originally posted by matty
All we have been told is the middle of December. That can change as the beta team hasn't started testing yet.

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Originally posted by Nathalie
This new version, targeted for release in early December of this year, will...

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Originally posted by The-Phantom

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Originally posted by Nathalie
This new version, targeted for release in early December of this year, will...

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Your early December is definitely different from my early December.

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Hi there,

The development team in Montreal is working hard on the release.  Stay tuned this spot for an update.

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Originally posted by Nathalie
Hi there,

The development team in Montreal is working hard on the release.  Stay tuned this spot for an update.

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  I think you may have meant Batman whose program ended with a narrator saying "Tune in next week.  Same bat time, same bat station".

Hi all, new member here...

I was wondering if "Plus! 5" will modify videochat screen layout so livefeed both sent and received, won't be one on top of the other?
That's the only reason why I didn't upgrade to WLE 2011

Thanks...

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Originally posted by Alias

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Originally posted by Nathalie
Hi there,

The development team in Montreal is working hard on the release.  Stay tuned this spot for an update.

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didnt Bugsbunny say something like that at the end of his show?

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Originally posted by SL00
Hi all, new member here...

I was wondering if "Plus! 5" will modify videochat screen layout so livefeed both sent and received, won't be one on top of the other?
That's the only reason why I didn't upgrade to WLE 2011

Thanks...

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Originally posted by SL00
I was wondering if "Plus! 5" will modify videochat screen layout so livefeed both sent and received, won't be one on top of the other?
That's the only reason why I didn't upgrade to WLE 2011

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Originally posted by Spunky
I'm not quite sure how you mean, but Plus! has no way to change the layout. A skin may be able to, but it could be a lot of work depending on what needs changing

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Originally posted by SL00

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Originally posted by Spunky
I'm not quite sure how you mean, but Plus! has no way to change the layout. A skin may be able to, but it could be a lot of work depending on what needs changing

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Hi,

I mean when to choose to use video chat in WLM 2011, it shows our picture in the right ou left bottom corner (i'm not quite sure witch side is), on top of the lifefeed we're watching, covering a big part of it...

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Originally posted by Chris4

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Originally posted by SL00

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Originally posted by Spunky
I'm not quite sure how you mean, but Plus! has no way to change the layout. A skin may be able to, but it could be a lot of work depending on what needs changing

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Hi,

I mean when to choose to use video chat in WLM 2011, it shows our picture in the right ou left bottom corner (i'm not quite sure witch side is), on top of the lifefeed we're watching, covering a big part of it...

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Just testing video call now and I see what you mean. If you click "Open IM" (top right) during the video call it'll show the chat, then you can drag the bar to make the chat bigger.

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Release Date?

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Originally posted by Hous3Fr3ak
Release Date?

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Originally posted by Nathalie
[...] targeted for release in early December of this year [...]

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Originally posted by matty
There isn't a specific date. We have been told sometime in December.

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waiting msgplus 5.0
i love msgplus

but i´m use
live messenger 2011

and msgplus 4.9 not compatible
colors letters

finish version 5.0 please

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Originally posted by alexchaud
but i´m use
live messenger 2011

and msgplus 4.9 not compatible

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its past " early December "  you sure they mean this year or next year

There's always a delay

who knows it might be released on Christmas day ,

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Originally posted by Alias
who knows it might be released on Christmas day ,

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Originally posted by Lou
You can safely assume that this will not be the case as testers have not received anything yet.

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Originally posted by Alias

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Originally posted by Lou
You can safely assume that this will not be the case as testers have not received anything yet.

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man i missed you Lou.  but im pretty sure patchou has been Testing it yeah? you and many others forget, its not up to Patchou now who gets to test his work. he's only a Developer now, i would think Yuna do there own internal testing since they have planty of staff to help with testing now.  , i have said it to Menthix and i will say it to you, dont get ya Hopes up

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Originally posted by Lou
Actually, Patchou does have a fair bit of say in what goes on with regards to testing. Also, just because they didn't tell you, does not mean they did not tell us (as beta testers). We are aware of what is happening with the testing, the reasons behind the delays, and will indeed be testing it before it goes public, regardless of what people outside of the loop may be assuming.

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Originally posted by Lou
Actually, Patchou does have a fair bit of say in what goes on with regards to testing. Also, just because they didn't tell you, does not mean they did not tell us (as beta testers). We are aware of what is happening with the testing, the reasons behind the delays, and will indeed be testing it before it goes public, regardless of what people outside of the loop may be assuming.

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your entitled to think that Lou. by all means,i havent seen anyone like Patch or Nathalie or any of the other Yuna staff say im wrong or even PM me for that matter. ,

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Originally posted by Lou
They have better things to do than monitor everything everyone says/posts.

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Also remember that there needs to be a translation timeframe as well. With holidays coming up, our translation team may or may not be able to do everything needed before the end of the month, even if we started today. Things take time. Would you rather have a program full of errors released in a hurry, or something well developed that takes longer?

I would like to think there's still a probability of Plus 5 being released this month but seriously... 5 days for Christmas Eve and 12 for New Years Eve.... I see it impossible.... beta nor translations have started yet.

I guess this is one of the reasons no release dates or even approximates are given... there's always a delay.

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Originally posted by Lou
Actually, Patchou does have a fair bit of say in what goes on with regards to testing. Also, just because they didn't tell you, does not mean they did not tell us (as beta testers). We are aware of what is happening with the testing, the reasons behind the delays, and will indeed be testing it before it goes public, regardless of what people outside of the loop may be assuming.

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your entitled to think that Lou. by all means,i havent seen anyone like Patch or Nathalie or any of the other Yuna staff say im wrong or even PM me for that matter. ,

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Originally posted by YottabyteWizard
ld like to think there's still a probability of Plus 5 being released this month but seriously... 5 days for Christmas Eve and 12 for New Years Eve.... I see it impossible.... beta nor translations have started yet

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Originally posted by Apatik
hen I will! There will be a beta test, rest assured of that

And also, Patchou is not quite "only a developer", even though some decisions are indeed out o

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You were asking for some clarification about beta testing, I'm answering

And quoting first post : "targeted for release in early December of this year", so she did say "early December", but she also said "targeted"...

fair enough, however i'll wait for this "update announcement" this week about Plus5 ,, dunno why, i dont even use Plus anymore

is version 5 comes soon  ?

is gonna come this December  or December 2011 ?     

i can't wait .... hurry up guys .  pleeeeeease .....

thanks and Merry Christmas  and a Happy new Year to everyone

Update about Plus! 5 status will indeed be next week, between Christmas and New Year's.  In the meantime, happy holiday to everyone who is celebrating the holiday this weekend!

We want a damn feature list..

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Originally posted by Chrissy
We want a damn feature list..

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Every other damn programmer or website has managed to do it for years, bloody hell I've seen feature lists out years before the program.

What kind of idiots are they?

If they had a feature list, and everyone on the net knew what was coming, much more people would wait, much more people would like and much more people will download, meaning more money for them and maybe less stupid tool-bars for us.

All they have to do is say, here's the feature list, but it may change prior to release. People needs to know that their downloading, and if they like it they will tell friends, and so on.

This way, you'll get a lot of people waiting for it. Do it your way people get fed up and just fuck off.

..and cookie I don't care what you say and I don't care how long you've been on the internet, I know I'm correct.

I can really see this release full of ads, subscriptions to extra Plus! features, sponsors, Plus! Games, Plus! Cooking, Plus! Live XXX etc etc.
The companies objective is obviously: Maximize profit, minimize work & just give us jack shit.

I know I'm not exactly loved here, but I know for a fact I have a point.

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Originally posted by Chrissy
If they had a feature list, and everyone on the net knew what was coming, much more people would wait

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Originally posted by Menthix
it resulted in the server crashing minutes before release.

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I'm sorry, Chrissy, but are you thick? Yuna Software's primary goal, whether they'll admit it or not, is to make a horde of cash. They may wish for Messenger Plus! Live to be a good piece of software with a large community, but that will never be their primary interest.

The reason Yuna bundles toolbars (no hyphen) is so that they can make that money without alienating a community that lives in the time of freeware. They'll buy servers when they have enough money from advertising and toolbars to make themselves rich while being able to afford to spend.

Of course, there is no problem with this. It's plain, simple, capitalism. I also agree with Menthix in that I'd rather speculate wildly with no solid information than be stampeded by a hundred excessively excitable teenagers who haven't figured out why Google is trying to kill the Caps Lock key.

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Originally posted by Menthix

The point of not releasing feature lists too early and not giving exact release dates is exactly to not have lot's of people impatiently waiting for it and mass refreshing the site on release day. Patchou did that before, it resulted in the server crashing minutes before release.

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Originally posted by Alias
doesnt stop Opensource Linux Distributions from releasing there Feature list early.

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Originally posted by Menthix
Plus! is not an open source project. The nature of open source projects more or less forces them to release such lists early since essentially everyone can commit code to it so people have a need to know roadmaps.

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Originally posted by Menthix
And I'm sure there are closed source projects publishing roadmaps and giving early peaks too. Again, those are not Plus. I just don't understand why this is suddenly an issue. If a feature list or some kind of sneak peak does get released before the actual software release, fine. But what is the point in demanding this and calling people idiots if they don't. Have some patience and some decency.

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Originally posted by Chrissy
I know I'm not exactly loved here

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lol, just lol...

yeah, lets release a feature list for the sole reason that common people can start to test out the upcomming features of a NOT YET released product...

...some people and their logic   [major facepalm]

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Originally posted by Chrissy
What kind of idiots are they?

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Originally posted by Chrissy
I know I'm correct.

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Originally posted by Nathalie
Update about Plus! 5 status will indeed be next week, between Christmas and New Year's.  In the meantime, happy holiday to everyone who is celebrating the holiday this weekend!
Nathalie

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Epic post by Nathalie. And oh man, I just love Cookie's replies

When indeed will 5 be out?

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Originally posted by olivex
When indeed will 5 be out?

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Originally posted by Nathalie
Update about Plus! 5 status will indeed be next week, between Christmas and New Year's.  In the meantime, happy holiday to everyone who is celebrating the holiday this weekend!

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xyes,

I'm afraid you misunderstood. Nathalie didn't say Plus! will be released between Christmas and New Year. She said a status update will be given between Christmas and New Year, aka a bit more up-to-date info regarding the development and very maybe a new targetted release date.

Well Messenger Plus Team should be fast... I mean it has been almost 5 months since the release of Windows Live Messenger 2011 and Beta Release for 2012 should probably be around second quarter of 2012. Then we won't be able to use Plus again... Plus Team is working way too slow...

Windows Live Messenger 2011 was released end September (beta was available since mid June - but a lot has changed internally since then). So, that is roughly 3 months since the public release till now. Also note that Windows Live Messenger was released way sooner than what was expected. The Messenger Plus! team has been working in overdrive since then...

Note that it is not just about making Plus! compatible by applying some tweaks, this is not just a simple update like previous versions were. And on top of that, there are a whole bunch of other things they need to do besides the software itself. It is a complete overhaul of the software, website, services, etc. And don't forget that the department responsible for Plus! (=the current team of programmers who _first_ had to learn how Plus! was made; they never worked on it before) was only founded in June or something too....

And then you may not forget everything must be tested and translated.

Considering all of this, they are doing a good job, and as fast as humanly possible.
Better a delayed product than a half-arsed rushed one.

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Nathalie didn't say Plus! will be released between Christmas and New Year. She said a status update will be given between Christmas and New Year, aka a bit more up-to-date info regarding the development and very maybe a new targetted release date.

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