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Nice post.

Apart from...

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Originally posted by Omaaar
Maybe you should stop using TV as an "electronic nanny" and spending more quality time with your kids...

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I think that's a rather naive excuse for not allowing censorship.

There is a very strong difference between Free Speech and Indecent things being said. Indecent is in my opinion clearly offensive and I would not like this to be on any media. Anyone in the UK will surely remember Kilroy who lost his TV Talk Show due to a newspaper article he gave about his opinions about the Islam extremists...In some ways he was saying what a lot of people were thinking but I don't believe that should be classed as indecent in my opinion...

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Originally posted by Omaaar
I mean, what's morally wrong for you may not be wrong for me... so what gives you the right to impose your morality to me... you know what i mean...?

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What's morally wrong for you may not be morally wrong for me... so what gives you the right to condemn me if I kill someone?

You live in a semi-civilized society. Get over it. After all, public television is not paid by you, so you don't have any rights over what they broadcast there or not. The government, on the other hand, owns the TV frequencies.

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Nudity and profanity are no-brainers, what i'm concerned is the finer things...such as expresing ideas or points of view...,

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Now that's a good point. Well, not that, but it got me to think of somthing. Channels generally are so biased in their way of informing the population and giving political opinions that I don't see how doing "live brainwashing" via TV is allowed .

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first is TV & Radio...then what? Newspapers? the Internet? the first amendment protects American citizens/residents to say what they want... you can just change the channel or turn off the TV... you are not obligated to watch these shows or "Britney almost naked in her last video"

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Don't get paranoid... the problem here is that a nipple was shown in an "all audiences" Super Bowl show in daytime programming. The show was rated for all audiences, kids were watching that, and some conservatives parents don't want kids to see breasts in concerts. Period.

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With this i'm not saying that porn channels should be in the networks ok...?

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Nothing to do with it. If porn channels were rated All audiences, then we'd have a problem.

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The First Amendment read as follows...

"Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof; or abridging the freedom of speech, or of the press; or the right of the people peaceably to assemble, and to petition the Government for a redress of grievances"

Cheers...

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Yeah, now read all the rest of that lil' book

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Originally posted by Guido

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Originally posted by Omaaar
I mean, what's morally wrong for you may not be wrong for me... so what gives you the right to impose your morality to me... you know what i mean...?

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What's morally wrong for you may not be morally wrong for me... so what gives you the right to condemn me if I kill someone?

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With all due respect, but you're out of it if you compare censorship with murder....

Censorship is a very dangerous thing, it starts withn very little, and before you know it you give away a lot of your personal freedoms...

And you Guido from all people should know about this (because you live in Argentina, altough maybe you're too young to remember the Peron days...)

I used to lived in Mexico, and I know about Goverment-controled TV...(it sucks ), since we had the 70 years of a party's dicatorship...

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Maybe you should stop using TV as an "electronic nanny"

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omar u deserve a high 5

hit the nail on the head

thats why kids theese days are so fucked up

and all the music in the charts is a load of shit

this is also a suggested emoticon

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Originally posted by Omaaar
With all due respect, but you're out of it if you compare censorship with murder....

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Both things (killing and showing Janet jackson's boob in the super bowl) are illegal. In that sense, they are comparable.

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Censorship is a very dangerous thing, it starts withn very little, and before you know it you give away a lot of your personal freedoms...

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Agreed, but that doesn't put the point of the discussion down. There has to be a regulation.

You cannot compare the super bowl incident to Peron's censorship (I am too young to remember it but not too young to know it), one thing has logical justification (and in fact, many US citizens agree with the FCC) and the other is just political dictatorship. Who is, with all due respect, "out of it" then?

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I used to lived in Mexico, and I know about Goverment-controled TV...(it sucks ), since we had the 70 years of a party's dicatorship...

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*cough* Government controlled TV is in every country of the world. The goverment, by definition, owns the frequency, and has every legal right to place fines if inappropriate content is shown at inappropriate times. TV is public, so someone must control it because anyone can see it just by plugging a RF antenna to a TV.

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and all the music in the charts is a load of shit

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Definitely, kids are not right nowadays... what does kids watching TV to do with subjective musical tastes?

And by the way, I DO agree about the nanny thing, it just doesn't serve as an argument for this, but it's definitely true.

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Originally posted by TomorrowsNobody
omar u deserve a high 5

hit the nail on the head

thats why kids theese days are so fucked up

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Are you for real? So all the kids that are messed up these days listen up everyone cause we've discovered the cause in this thread, its TV. Give me a break...

We go on about how censorship is wrong and dont let the governments get away with it, and in reply to letting kids watch uncensored stuff we just simply rule it out and say, "stop using TV as an "electronic nanny" (Omaaar).

hah...