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Originally posted by CrazyClown2

And yes, the only format that you can save as is BMP. I'm trying to learn the Jpg file structure for a better saving system... I first wanted to give transparent Gifs a try, but because of the hardness and the Gifs copyrights, I stopped.

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Did you try png?
Because png supports transparency too...

and the GIF copyrights ran out worldwide on the 8th July this year

indeed... and do not put much time in jpg as this is a lossy graphic format and will *beep* up the saved emoticons. Your first choice should be PNG, as this is the format used by Messenger itself, because it supports alpha-transparency and 24bit colors. After that, your second choice should be GIF, third choice BMP and as last (for the dodgy people ) JPG....

PS: your site can only be viewed correctly with MSIE; don't use MSIE-specific code, although widely used, that is not the standard (=not good)

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Originally posted by CookieRevised
your second choice should be GIF

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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/GIF#History

If MSIE would get PNG's alpha-channel properly, but it doesn't .

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Originally posted by KeyStorm

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Originally posted by CookieRevised
your second choice should be GIF

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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/GIF#History
If MSIE would get alpha-channel properly, but it doesn't .

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I don't get that, sorry... MSIE has nothing todo with choosing PNG as first choice or GIF as second :/

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You're right, I shouldn't really use Jpgs, as they are most-likely only good for big images. I found a few PNG sites that can help me, but heck it's confusing! I would rather create my own file type but then msn wouldn't read it!

there are excellent free PNG-libraries, so you don't need to know all the techstuff. (But I don't know if you can use/import those libraries into your programming language you use)

Anyways, to learn about PNG, all you need is:
http://www.libpng.org/pub/png/
=> http://www.libpng.org/pub/png/book/toc.html

PS: PNG seems like a complicated format at first (if you are new to fileformats), but is actualy a very easy to understand and strait forward format...

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Originally posted by CookieRevised
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Originally posted by KeyStorm

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Originally posted by CookieRevised
your second choice should be GIF

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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/GIF#History
If MSIE would get alpha-channel properly, but it doesn't .

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I don't get that, sorry... MSIE has nothing todo with choosing PNG as first choice or GIF as second :/

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That was a rather off-topic comment

What I mean is that using GIF compression is no longer allowed by international patents. The last one allowing it: Canada, but it expired on 7 July.

PNG is thougt to replace GIF in the web environment, but MSIE isn't compatible with PNG's 8bit alpha channel. That's what it's stopping many people from using it (at all)

maybe you should try making it save as a .jpg or .gif sure there's some color loss, but im sure you can work around it

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Originally posted by Vantage
maybe you should try making it save as a .jpg or .gif sure there's some color loss, but im sure you can work around it

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sorry, but this is nonsense and doesn't make any sense...