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Hi,
    It appears that many, many users are having problems with the software solely based on the fact of the sponsor software.

Now most of us all know that you can opt out of the sponsor program by selecting i refuse... however...

Most install software asks for you to accept or refuse the terms of the program etc before you can continue to install it... now what i believe is that many new users think it's the same sorta thing without carefully reading it...

I do believe it is sort of mis-leading.



I am a big supporter of Messenger Plus, and believe i will always continue to be so... however about 10% of the Messenger Plus users seem to be angry because of the fact of the mis-leading sponsor program, or some dont even realise, and just get angry because they think it came batched with aload of spyware....

What my question is, is why does it appear mis-leading? Why not display a large red warning notice, so people DO KNOW they are about to install the sponsor software to support Messenger Plus.

Also another suggestion is instead of having that sponsor program, mis-leading alot of Messenger Plus users... why not have a donation page? I'm sure alot of people would donate, and alot more people would be happy with the end result.



Many Thanks,
XM4ST3RX

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Originally posted by XM4ST3RX
What my question is, is why does it appear mis-leading? Why not display a large red warning notice, so people DO KNOW they are about to install the sponsor software to support Messenger Plus.

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if he putted a big red message he would scare everyone even if they really wanted to install the sponsor
If he didnt want people  to install it, he wouldnt have a sponsor at all

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Originally posted by XM4ST3RX
why not have a donation page?

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he had a donation page before, but almost no one donated

Chromo speaks the truth.

The donation page online formore than a year and only about 10 people over 2 million donated. As forthe sponsor agreement, it'a also true that I can't add too much "are you reall reall really sure?" notices, else, nobody will install it anymore . I thank you for yourpost and ideas, but the waythings are working currently is probably the best way... some people will always complain, even if 10 confirmation messages are displayed, this forum is here to help them and when they don't want to hear what we have to say to them, the problem because theirs.

ok... so no-one donated... so the alternative is to have a mis-leading sponsor program?

most people would probably rather pay for Messenger Plus, rather than have their PC full of spyware.


Thanks,
XM4ST3RX

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Originally posted by XM4ST3RX

I do believe it is sort of mis-leading.

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I agree.

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Originally posted by XM4ST3RX
Also another suggestion is instead of having that sponsor program, mis-leading alot of Messenger Plus users... why not have a donation page? I'm sure alot of people would donate, and alot more people would be happy with the end result.

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Are you really sure about that? As Chrono said, he had a donation page before, but almost no one donated.

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Originally posted by Chrono

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Originally posted by XM4ST3RX
What my question is, is why does it appear mis-leading? Why not display a large red warning notice, so people DO KNOW they are about to install the sponsor software to support Messenger Plus.

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if he putted a big red message he would scare everyone even if they really wanted to install the sponsor
If he didnt want people  to install it, he wouldnt have a sponsor at all

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I agree with Chrono here. I think it should be something like this (sorry for insisting).

I'm going along with lopardo on this one: that screenie of his looks like it could work.

I also agree with raceprouk & lopardo. What irony! The very problem he's trying to clear up in his name! - Name it, people! LOP! Live Online Portal! Are you afraid user's'll be scared off by it's reputation? Come to think of it - you probably are...

Well, here's an expanded version of lopardo's idea - have the explanation screen, then the LOP license, but on the explanation screen, explain exactly what LOP is, & how this version is different to the spyware/porn popper/hijacker versions.

Sorry if that was a bit psycho,
Fred Greg.

Patchou should keep it how it is: the people who complain bring it upon themselves by not reading a contract that they agree to.  If the sponsor program funds Messenger Plus! then I'm glad it is there, and people should stop moaning!

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most people would probably rather pay for Messenger Plus, rather than have their PC full of spyware.

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And no, I would not rather play for plus! than have an OPTIONAL adware program! I would rather pay than have my "PC full of spyware" but:

1.)It's OPTIONAL
2.) It's ADWARE and not SPYWARE.

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EDIT: I guess the only possible reason Patchou would have for changing it would be if it were being counter-productive, IE word goes around that "Plus has adware" and thus less people download it, and thus the sponsorship is less valuable.  But unless that is happening, it should stay how it is.

Personally I'd like a message at the top in Red saying "please read carefully this is not the usual yada yada" like the IE Google toolbar installation does...

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Originally posted by Patchou
Chromo speaks the truth.

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love that

Well ill be honest if people dont read then of kind of is their own fault. Patchou has already set it to be no default clicked yes. And and has put capital letters there so it does draw attention to itself... But then again your right people dont read... but if a person often installs software like that they should know how to remove it - as people who often charge through the installs know what they are doing as they do it alot.