Shoutbox

Quote of Jonathan Kay who represent Microsoft with MSn Messenger issues...

...the legality of Messenger Plus is somewhat
questioned...

Humm... any thoughts?

ok what i think:

IT IS LEGAL

1)Messenger Plus does NOT edit/patch any part of the Messenger EXE or DLL's

2)The Plus menu can be added to any program without patching the Program (e.g. if anyone has used Elite Spys you can edit lots of window options just by clicking typing clicking) also if was deamed illegal so would Interactive Agents for there About Menu in the Help Menu

3)IT uses nothing but the API - I can prove it in a way because the FIRST ever Messenger Plus! Alpha was a Manual install by us testers

4)Why would such a nice guy who gives most likely the BEST after install support for ANY MSN Messenger add-on waste his Reputation on making an illegal program for over 200000 people to use(I wouldn't)

5)Why would so many people use it if it WAS illegal???(Bringing back Point 4)

Just a few ideas to add to the fire.

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Only one way to really find out:

Read the latest MSN Messenger and Windows Messnger EULA's

And visit http://www.microsoft.com/legal/ ... read everything

Probaly need a lawyer to understand everything


But the truth is out there

i've read it (Taking up law soon (maybe))

Seems totally Legal according to the MSN Messenger TOU as well

They is only 1 thing I can think of... and thats removing the ad banner at the bottom, everything else seems ok from my pov.

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Originally posted by Dr_Jones
3)IT uses nothing but the API - I can prove it in a way because the FIRST ever Messenger Plus! Alpha was a Manual install by us testers

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Yes, I second that... nothing illegal at all was done then, why should it be done now?

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Originally posted by Johnny_Mac
They is only 1 thing I can think of... and thats removing the ad banner at the bottom, everything else seems ok from my pov.

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Not sure if that is illegal... but it could be...

Ok, it doesn't change the messenger EXE or DLLs, uses nothing but the API, doesn't use microsoft copyright stuff, and does nothing in any way insulting to microsoft.

Can't be illegal.

Patchou, your additions? You know your program inside-out, we don't...

As Jon says, it's "questionable" .... what I do is not really illegal as I don't break the code. The only thing I could understand is that they ask me to remove my "remove banner" option which, by the way, I would do if they asked me. I really think that you don't have to matter because I'm just giving them a lot of publicity, there is no reason why they try to stop me to give them more users .

By the way Johnny, can you tell me from where you quoted this?
Patchou

yeah were is the bit. i want to read it a bit more

Yep! Would like to know from where

Regarding Banner issue. May be display it after a period of time from signing in, like 1 min after you sign in.

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Originally posted by shine
Regarding Banner issue. May be display it after a period of time from signing in, like 1 min after you sign in.

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Better idea it displays for 5 mins after signin for that day then disappears for the rest of the day
and then comes back the next day