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Originally posted by squall_leonhart69r
this causes an infinite loop installation as the cdrom drives reinstall themselves depending on which copy of the bus is installed first

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BS. Windows does not give a damn what bus it's on, as long as it's not on a physically seperate IDE controller, it doesnt matter.

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Originally posted by squall_leonhart69r
some times it doesn't thats all

for example

when i installed my uncles tv tuner it came up as a unknown device till i actually installed the drivers

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Uhh.... thats what surfi said, Look for unkown devices in there. If windows detects a device and doesnt have drivers it will ALWAYS show up as uknown device.

yeah but some unknown devices actually have thier name showing, theyare just in unknown devices becoz the os can't decide where to put them

and wj. if i bother ever reinstalling the via ide miniport drivers i'll show you what i mean,

it causes the Secondary bus to install twice and you get two lots of the drives isntalled on the secondary bus

and everytime i restarted it would reinstall

good thing i don't use those stupid ide miniport drivers anymore

The unknown devices have a little yellow exclamation mark on the icon..

so do devices that have names but can't be put in a category

such as an unknown Vga adapter

which is easily found to be my Nvidia graphics adapter when the drivers are installed

* squall_leonhart69r sez brb he has to hit a dog with a shovel coz she won't shut up....

* squall_leonhart69r makes sure everyone realises he was kidding

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Originally posted by squall_leonhart69r
so do devices that have names but can't be put in a category

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Thats not why they dont get put into a category, It's because the system has a min-driver to support the device to it's very basic functions but nothing further.

If your having any driver installed twice, It's not the system or drivers fault, It's an ID 10 T error.

no. its not an id 10 error. id doesn't even give an error

and an id 10 t error is basically an error that can't be asscertained

what happened is both secondary ide channel drivers installed but then 2 sets of the same cd rom drive installed

and on each bootup it would reinstall the cdrom drive

was easily fixed by removing the mini port and then uinstalling the via hyperions

i then wiped all traces of via drivers from the registry by destroying anything named viahyperion

oddly though. my cd burner has alot of issues with running in dma mode. its a per driver thing it seems

it works fine in dma mode when i have the miniport driver installed and then i uninstall the mini port driver and reinstall the bus master ide drivers and it sticks to dma

i think my cables on its way out

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Originally posted by squall_leonhart69r
yeah but some unknown devices actually have thier name showing

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Because they identify themselves to Windows i.e. Windows asks the device what it is, it says 'Uber-l33t Grafix Kard' or something, and Windows then goes 'Ah crap, don't have the drivers for you'.
Result: Device has name, but is either under Unknown Devices, and/or has exclamation mark.

thank you for reposting what i've posted several times....

Where?

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Originally posted by squall_leonhart69r
when i installed my uncles tv tuner it came up as a unknown device till i actually installed the drivers

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Yes, and you can still get the device id and manufacturer information from the properties page as I said..

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Originally posted by squall_leonhart69r
and an id 10 t error is basically an error that can't be asscertained

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An id 10 t error is an idiot error by the way.