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RE: Plus! Tweak! for Plus! 3.52 :)
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Choli......your a Plus! slave.....you should have been ready with Plus! Tweak 3.60 a year before 3.60 was released :refuck: :P
:rofl: You're right.

I was thinking today, it'd be great if Choli updates Plus! Tweak! ;)

I still want DelayedSignin, Choli! :p

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:blah!:

The tweaker for this version was ready 2 or 3 days ago, but I don't use to upload it until Patchou announces the new version...

Anyway, as it seems that the final version of Plus 3.60 is already out, I've just updated the Tweaker. It includes the lost DelayedSignin, the new settings of 3.60 and some new undocummented ones.

Enjoy :)
Thanks, Cho! (Y)

This post was edited on 09-27-2005 at 10:19 AM by L. Coyote.

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09-27-2005 12:29 AM
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O.P. RE: Plus! Tweak! for Plus! 3.60 :)
:blah!:

The tweaker for this version was ready 2 or 3 days ago, but I don't use to upload it until Patchou announces the new version...

Anyway, as it seems that the final version of Plus 3.60 is already out, I've just updated the Tweaker. It includes the lost DelayedSignin, the new settings of 3.60 and some new undocummented ones.

Enjoy :)
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09-27-2005 09:13 AM
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RE: Plus! Tweak! for Plus! 3.60 :)
Choli, do get some less troubles with COMCTL32.OCX, you could recompile your program with version 5.00.3828. This is the first version which is totally binary compatible with previous (very old) version and also with the newest updates.

To do this you need to unregister your current COMCTL32.OCX (in the system32 dir), delete it (or rename it, whatever). And copy the 5.00.3828 version to your system32 and register that.

After this, open your project's VBP file and change #1.3# to #1.2#, save the project file and open it in VB6 and recompile.

Nothing will be broken if you do this (the newer updates of COMCTL32.OCX don't add anything new, they only fix some bugs. eg: here) and the big benefit of this is that your application is compatible with all COMCTRL32.OCX versions out there and people wont get the "your comtcl32.ocx is out of date" errors anymore.

http://support.microsoft.com/kb/167123/EN-US/

http://www.microsoft.com/downloads/details.aspx?f...-9df8-3389ac24bb8b
http://www.microsoft.com/downloads/details.aspx?f...-BB14-64662F5F62FE
http://support.microsoft.com/dllhelp/
http://www.angelfire.com/biz/rhaminisys/vboledll.html

PS: of course, you could add a version check to your program which checks the comctl32.ocx version and if it is older than 6.00.8106 advise to update on http://www.microsoft.com/downloads/details.aspx?F...-bb14-64662f5f62fe
before you create the actual main form of your application.

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09-27-2005 03:24 PM
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RE: Plus! Tweak! for Plus! 3.60 :)
thanks for the update, it's odd it was released a day eaily (messenger plus) and somethings missing anyway your a tester i'm not and thanks for this :P i've uploaded it to my webspace to if you dont mind :)
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O.P. RE: Plus! Tweak! for Plus! 3.60 :)
Thanks for the suggestion, Cookie. But do I need to change my COMCTL32.OCX every time I want to compile the program? That would be a bit dodgy... I thinking... would it be possible to have 2 versions of that file installed (registered) at the same time? What about if I copy the old comctl32 with other name and use it in VB instead of the new version? (i mean in the menu Project > components).
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of course, you could add a version check to your program which checks the comctl32.ocx version and if it is older than 6.00.8106 advise to update on http://www.microsoft.com/downloads/details.aspx?F...-bb14-64662f5f62fe
before you create the actual main form of your application
that's a good idea, thanks ;)

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i've uploaded it to my webspace to if you dont mind
as long as people reference me as the author of the tweaker, I don't care where the file is uploaded (Y) ;)

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RE: RE: Plus! Tweak! for Plus! 3.60 :)
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Thanks for the suggestion, Cookie. But do I need to change my COMCTL32.OCX every time I want to compile the program? That would be a bit dodgy... I thinking... would it be possible to have 2 versions of that file installed (registered) at the same time? What about if I copy the old comctl32 with other name and use it in VB instead of the new version? (i mean in the menu Project > components).
The reason why compiling with an older version has the benefit of working with newer versions is because of the binary compatibility and because of the same GUID and ProgID's (if there wasn't binary compatibility the GUID and ProgID's would be different). So no, you can't have two copies of that same OCX registered at the same time; they use the same GUID and thus there can only be one path to the OCX file (the currently registered one). Note: this also goes for all GUID's, not only for GUID's of OCX's. Hence why installing, for example, multiple msn messenger versions is not _that_ good.


This said, you can run an application with another OCX by putting that OCX inside its applications directory or startup directory _and_ IF that application handles this correctly (not all use the default windows path search order and certainly not all handle the registering of such files correctly). It also depends on weither the OCX is selfregistering or not. If the application registers the OCX in its current directory or the OCX registers itself because it was called wrongly by the application, the shit could hit the fan. Especially when you decide to delete that OCX again (eg: you uninstall the application). Hence this is a _very_ common cause to problems with DLL's, OCX's, etc that needs registering.


I actually didn't tried yet what you suggested though; it might work, it might not. It depends on how VB handles that GUID and filename inside the project file. I do know that if there is an older version listed there (eg '#1.2#') and you have a new version registered (eg: typelibrary v1.3) that it will automatically update to that new one (despite disabling the setting "Upgrade ActiveX Controls" in your projects properties as that is something different). So I assume for now that VB follows that GUID and updates its project file with the currently registered typelibrary.


I'll try some stuff out and let you know... In the meantime you could make a small batch script or something which switches between the old and new by renaming and (un)registering them (that's what I do atm). Besides, there is no harm in using the old OCX (if you know what you're doing; as in: you know you are running on an old one), as long as you don't notice any crashes of course and as long as a certain program doesn't explicitly requires the new version :P

EDIT, after trying several things: As I suspected, VB looks at the GUID and follows it to get the current registered version and it will compile with that one. So putting:
"Object={6B7E6392-850A-101B-AFC0-4210102A8DA7}#1.2#0; C:\MyApp\COMCTL32.OCX" inside your project file or form files will not work. Thus I'm afraid you'll need to 'swap' the versions each time before you compile (a batch script is very handy for this; pm me if you need it ;)).

This post was edited on 09-28-2005 at 02:06 AM by CookieRevised.
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RE: Plus! Tweak! for Plus! 3.60 :)
I'm not too sure who to compliment this with... But with the option of turning off MsgPlus! with windows messenger, or with MSN messenger... This'll be great for a bunch of those people who only want it with one!... Great job!
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O.P. RE: Plus! Tweak! for Plus! 3.60 :)
Thanks, cookie... I'll let you know if I have any problems with the script, it seems very easy ;)
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I'm not too sure who to compliment this with... But with the option of turning off MsgPlus! with windows messenger, or with MSN messenger... This'll be great for a bunch of those people who only want it with one!... Great job!
you can do that with my tweaker: Just select "all users" an change one of the 2 first settings as you want ;)
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RE: Plus! Tweak! for Plus! 3.60 :)
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you can do that with my tweaker

I know... I just wasn't sure who to give the "thank you good job" to...... so Thanks to you! lol.
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RE: Plus! Tweak! for Plus! 3.60 :)
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I know... I just wasn't sure who to give the "thank you good job" to...... so Thanks to you! lol.
Um, obviously the registry tweaks are created by Patchou, and Choli's tweaker just accesses and modifies them.

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