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Do you guys think its illegal to picklocks as a hobby or just plain teaching/telling people how to picklocks and/or carrying lockpicks around? What do you think?

Canadian & United States Law

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PART IX OFFENCES AGAINST RIGHTS OF PROPERTY
Breaking and Entering
Possession of break-in instrument
351. (1) Every one who, without lawful excuse, the proof of which lies on him, has in his possession any instrument suitable for the purpose of breaking into any place, motor vehicle, vault or safe under circumstances that give rise to a reasonable inference that the instrument has been used or is or was intended to be used for any such purpose, is guilty of an indictable offence and liable to imprisonment for a term not exceeding ten years.

R.S., 1985, c. C-46, s. 351; R.S., 1985, c. 27 (1st Supp.), s. 48.

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what's a lockpick ?

Well, if you're just doing it for leasure and are not going to use the lockpick to break the law, then I think it is fine.

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Originally posted by Johny
what's a lockpick ?

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"Picking" a lock is when you manage to open a lock without a key, a lockpick is a tool which allows you to do this.

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Originally posted by Johny
what's a lockpick ?

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usually a little piece of metal you can insert into a lock to imitate having the key, thus opening the lock.

I think that you should be allowed to have one if you really want to. If you want to secure your stuff, don't use a cheap lock. Use something that's going to be alot harder to open using a lockpick [like a dna identifier lock]

No really, I think that law is stupid.

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Originally posted by lou_habs

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Originally posted by Johny
what's a lockpick ?

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usually a little piece of metal you can insert into a lock to imitate having the key, thus opening the lock.

I think that you should be allowed to have one if you really want to. If you want to secure your stuff, don't use a cheap lock. Use something that's going to be alot harder to open using a lockpick [like a dna identifier lock]

No really, I think that law is stupid.

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correct, but to simply put it,
Lockpicking is the Manipulation of the mechanism inside the lock cylinder to open the lock using a torque wrench and a lockpick without the use of a key.

Its like picking your nose, if youve picked your nose before you can simple remove the bugar by placing your finger in your nostrills and taking the bugar out.


Anyways, the reson I wanted to know everyones opinion is so that i can get ready to explain my self to my english teacher why lockpicking isnt illegal but burgualry is.

Are you guys stupid ?

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Originally posted by lou_habs
If you want to secure your stuff, don't use a cheap lock

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You must be an asshole.

You buy a lock, you buy any lock, you can even buy a 50c lock...Anyone who picks it should be prosecutted for doing so!it's a crime
AND THE LOCK'S QUALITY HAS GOT NOTHING TO DO WITH IT

it depends on the reason for picking the lock

you can't pick a lock unless it yours or if it has a nuclear bomb within the container period

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Originally posted by Johny
Are you guys stupid ?

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Originally posted by lou_habs
If you want to secure your stuff, don't use a cheap lock

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You must be an asshole.

You buy a lock, you buy any lock, you can even buy a 50c lock...Anyone who picks it should be prosecutted for doing so!it's a crime
AND THE LOCK'S QUALITY HAS GOT NOTHING TO DO WITH IT

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Ohh your 100% wrong about this, Quality of the lock has something to do with it, with cheaper locks, you don't even need to Pick the lock, you can just bypassit by looking for inperfections the manufacturers didnt want you to know about. Also, if you but a lock thats worth more, it will be designed to keep out beginer lockpickers.. some locks in europe actualy are upside down, so thier pins are litraly upside down. So if you used a lockpick gun or a bumping method that exploits newtons law (newtons cradel concept) it will be imposible for anyone to pick that lock using the bumping method or a lockpick gun. So the cost of the locks you buy is Worth it!

Locks are primarly used too keep people out, and if you pick a house door open, your insurance agency cant do anything about it becuase they'll just say "You left your door open, im sorry, I cant cover your losses"

why? thats becuase there is no evidance left if you were to pick a lock for burgulary reasons. If they used a brick to open a window then your insurance agency will cover you.

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Originally posted by Johny
Are you guys stupid ?

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Originally posted by lou_habs
If you want to secure your stuff, don't use a cheap lock

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You must be an asshole.

You buy a lock, you buy any lock, you can even buy a 50c lock...Anyone who picks it should be prosecutted for doing so!it's a crime
AND THE LOCK'S QUALITY HAS GOT NOTHING TO DO WITH IT

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sorry then

What I meant is, if all your doing is opening the lock, and then closing it again, fine. If you're stealing, far from fine. I didnt mean it to be like that.