Shoutbox

I just want a straight answer, and a solution if there is one.

I happen to hate change, and MSN Messenger has just told me when I tried to sign in:

"A newer version is available. You must install the newer version in order to continue. Would you like to do this now?"

The answer, is no, I don't like change, and I'd like to keep my version 6.2 instead of getting 7.5.

Can I get around this? or do I have to give in to Bill Gates and get something I don't want just because he and his cronies say?

(I'm sure it must be possible somehow, since I know some people still run 4.7, I used to and I think I gave in to the change when it forced me to update to 6.2. Why would there be sites like http://www.oldversion.com/program.php?n=msnm if it isn't possible to run them?)

Please help! Please tell me it'll be ok!

Really you should update to MSN Messenger 7.5, it is a very good version of MSN and you will get used to it quickly and easily, and definitely see the benefits of switching once you get it.

You can prevent this from coming up by using a patch, but patching is illegal, and chances are MSN Messenger 6.2 patches won't be available in a lot of places anymore.

(MSN Messenger 6 is barely support since Windows Live Messenger 8.0 is almost released, you're 2 version behind tbh )

If you really want to use a Patch and continue with 6.2Download A-Patch.

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Originally posted by Philomela
Please tell me it'll be ok!

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You'll be ok!

Why people doesn't want to update? :/ You'll get new features

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Originally posted by Philomela
I just want a straight answer, and a solution if there is one.

I happen to hate change, and MSN Messenger has just told me when I tried to sign in:

"A newer version is available. You must install the newer version in order to continue. Would you like to do this now?"

The answer, is no, I don't like change, and I'd like to keep my version 6.2 instead of getting 7.5.

Can I get around this? or do I have to give in to Bill Gates and get something I don't want just because he and his cronies say?

(I'm sure it must be possible somehow, since I know some people still run 4.7, I used to and I think I gave in to the change when it forced me to update to 6.2. Why would there be sites like http://www.oldversion.com/program.php?n=msnm if it isn't possible to run them?)

Please help! Please tell me it'll be ok!

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some pointers...

1) version "4.7" is _NOT_ MSN Messenger, it is Windows Messenger. That is a whole different program with its own life cycle. You still can use (the latest) Windows Messenger if you like (for now).

2) When using MSN Messenger 6.2, make sure you use he latest version for that branch. That is version 6.2.0208. Though you still would recieve the update notification because 6.2.0208 is getting obsolete and bug fixes will not be put out anymore for it!! Though, for now, the update notification is not a forced one, but it will be soonish.

3) When using MSN Messenger 7.5, again always use the latest version of that branch, atm this is MSN Messenger 7.5.0324

4) Getting around those update notifications is a bad thing todo. Not only do you violate the eula of ms messenger, but maybe more importantly you are using not so secure and old software. In case of MSN Messenger is is very important to always use the latest version (from the main branch you're using; and eventually branches die out and will be replaced by newer ones).

This also goes for many other (if not all) MS products, always use the latest build of a particular main version. And always update your PC or software with bugfixes.

5) Sites like oldversions.com exist for nostalgia reasons, nothing more, nothing less. Using old obsolete versions is at your own risk and indeed the risk is very high when you do this.

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I'd highly suggest to update to MSN Messenger 7.5.0324. It isn't all that different from 6.2 anyways. Failing to do will soon open you up for all kind of bugs and maybe even more bad stuff. The reason why you must update is not only for the bugfixes, but also because the protocol which MSN Messenger uses is updated too. Old protocols will not be supported anymore and if you don't update you soonish will not be able to even connect anymore.

Updates are done to make it safer for the user...

I'm in the same boat as Philomela. I just hate the way that MS forces people to update.

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Originally posted by Reload2
Why people doesn't want to update? :/ You'll get new features

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I don't want new features. I want to chat and use my webcam, I could do that with 6.2.

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I'd highly suggest to update to MSN Messenger 7.5.0324. It isn't all that different from 6.2 anyways. Failing to do will soon open you up for all kind of bugs and maybe even more bad stuff.

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And doing so may open you up for new bugs that replace the old ones, what's the point?

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Updates are done to make it safer for the user...

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MS updates their products to keep things going and money flowing.

Anyway, I'd like a working solution as well. I'm using an MSN alternative atm.
Tia.

You will never get a decent working solution unless you update.

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Originally posted by Hitokiri
Anyway, I'd like a working solution as well. I'm using an MSN alternative atm.

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I thought 6.2 still works? Anyway you can just change the version number by hex/ resource hacking it. Change it to the lastest version and voilia it should sign in fine.

If you want more information on doing this, tell me and I will explain

May I again strongly note thay there are reasons why some old versions don't work anymore or why there are updates being made!!!

People constantly complain about bugs, things not working, constantly worry about security and what not. They install all sorts of (crap) firewalls, virusscanners and other anti-stuff, but they don't want to update a simple product and/or install the latest bugfixes of Windows...?!?

Updates exist because they fix (sometimes big) security holes. You can patch out all the version numbers you like, the point is that this is NOT a proper "fix" or a proper thing todo and will only cause more harm!

Specifically for MSN Messenger there is also the issue of compatibility with the protocol and servers which are used. Old versions will simply NOT contain the newer protocols needed for the proper workings of Messenger.

Not to mention that eventually you WILL need to update as the older protocols will not be supported anymore at all.

I wonder why people want to keep older versions instead of updating. Customers always complain about things which have to be updated, but when a new build comes out, they refuse to download. They keep their old build with less features, less support and more bugs. Then why are we updating those programs? If no-one wants to update, what would be the point of further developing programs?

People are strange...